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No one saw you target me last night - I just sent you that message to see how you'd react. Unfortunately I wasn't watched last night, but I know for a fact that at least one scum targeted me last night. Maybe even the SK. Everyone who has claimed to me has believable stories that haven't been counterclaimed, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were all telling the truth. However, I haven't given any important information to anyone who hasn't already been verified. I think we're pretty safe at the moment. I'm torn between Eric and Russell today. I think they're both good lynches. At the moment though, I think I'm leaning more towards Russell, but there's still plenty of time left in the day for him to change my mind. Vote: Russell Price (Sandy)
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You don't need to know about roles to have suspicions, you just need to watch how people have been behaving. Kind of like how everyone thinks your behaviour is scummy. We really shouldn't have to rely on night actions to get good lynches done. It doesn't seem that unlikely that the town would have all of those roles, most of them are fairly common. But we're working on verifying all of the claims. I can't remember that. Where was that said? But it was still early in the day, most people hadn't even cast their votes and anything could have happened. I don't think the Irene lynch was ever in any danger of not going through. Everyone except Ace voted for her yesterday. If someone came up with a cop result on a scum, I would expect the rest of the scum to jump aboard the bandwagon as soon as possible.
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You're cooperating with the town? That's a pretty scummy way of putting it. Your reasonings definitely matter, even moreso now that you're under the spotlight. I'd rather hear your suspicions than just see you begrudgingly following along with the general consensus. You seem to be complaining a lot about the inactive members of our town - is there anyone in particular there you think is scum? I don't think you've answered this yet: why did you initially vote for Gregory instead of Irene yesterday?
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Are you voting for Eric because you think he's suspicious or because you'd rather he be lynched than you? Just like your vote for Gregory yesterday? And yes, please do tell us about the weather. Scum.
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But you did suspect Irene before I revealed the information about her. From what you said, it seemed like you suspected her just as much, if not more than Gregory. You never actually provided a reason for voting for Gregory other than because the lynch was apparently between you and him (despite it being very early in the day at the time) I'm not sure anyone sees you as the Big Bad. You're one of many suspects.
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I'm not going to announce any investigation results unless it actually benefits us. At the moment, I don't feel it does. If you are the town blocker and you haven't contacted me, please do so now as it could help us catch a liar. If you still don't trust me with your role information, remember this: - I helped to deliver up a Milano yesterday. - I announced in public at a time when no one was dead yet that I was the tracker. There were and have been no counter claims. I feel like the presence of a watcher helps to support my claim, as these two roles often seem to accompany one another in games. Also, the watcher has confirmed that I targeted who I said I targeted one Night One. - I am in contact with the several PRs, none of which have been counter claimed, and none of whom have expressed any concern about me. - Brian clearly wanted me lynched on Day One. The same goes for the vigilante, though contact between us is not quite as urgent. All of these posts feel very non-committal to me. It seems like you're second-guessing your accusations even before you make them.
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Why are you voting for Sarah? Are you sure you didn't mean Eric? You're right that you had nothing to do with Brian or Irene, because you avoided voting for either one of them. You and Irene had an argument yesterday, which is what I'd expect two scum to do if everyone was suggesting there was scum on the Sarah bandwagon. Make it look like you weren't affiliated if either of you were lynched. And despite your suspicions of each other, neither of you actually voted for each other. Perhaps you were hoping the Gregory bandwagon would emerge as an alternative? Unfortunately we can't investigate everyone. It is interesting how insistent you are on being investigated or tracked though.
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It turns out two people who shouldn't have targeted me targeted me last night. One was definitely a blocker. I'm not sure who the other one was. So either of you, please let me know if you had a valid reason for targeting me. Because I'm pretty certain at least one you is scum. In the meantime, I'd like to hear who everyone's top suspects are. If you choose not to voice your suspicions, I'm going to assume that you're scum.
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The first place I'd check is the cemetery.
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Does this bother anyone else? It's weird that two people (one a confirmed scumbag) arrived at the same conclusion about Sarah's inactivity (even when other people were just as inactive) within minutes of each other. And why is Eric rolling his eyes when someone else has the same opinion as him? It almost feels like he was trying to point out that both of their votes were a coincidence in an attempt to distance themselves from each other. I still don't have much confidence in Russell's behaviour either. I'm comfortable voting for either of the remaining Sarah bandwagoners today.
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So why did you wait to unvote me until it was clear Brian was going to be lynched? You were watching on at the time I claimed tracker.
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Oh no, not my poor wife! Her life, just like all the hair she megablocked with, has been brutally cut short. I'm glad we were right about Irene though. The vigilante was never actually in contact with me, so it would have been pretty embarrassing if Irene was actually telling the truth (which to be fair was highly unlikely). However, I can assure you all that I am definitely in contact with the doctor, cop and watcher, all of that is true. If the real vig is actually still around, I urge you to get in contact with me. The more we coordinate, the less likely we are to make any mistakes. How do we feel about the other two Sarah bandwagoners now? Some have suggested only one of them would be scum, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a second Milano in that group.
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Why?
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And you flat out lied when you said you were a vanilla. You had several opportunities to claim vig after I said you were scum but you didn't take it. I lied for a reason - I was worried you might try and claim an important role if I revealed the watcher claim straight away. If you had claimed to be the vig after I announced the cop result, I might have actually believed you and held off on voting for you until things were verified. But now? There's no way you're the vig. I lied for a reason. My lie benefitted the town. You lied for no reason. Claiming to be a vanilla when you're really the vig after learning you were investigated as scum is a sure fire way to get yourself killed. It would make no sense for the vig to keep their role secret in that situation, and straight up lying about it in the face of an investigation result (and with under 24 hours left in the day at the time) would be suicide. Then there's the fact that you never counter-claimed when I said that a vig had contacted me. If you knew someone was lying about that, why wouldn't you want to expose them? Even if you were worried about exposing your role, you would still be guaranteed to catch a scum. And as far as I'm concerned, the life of one vig for the life of one scum/SK isn't a bad deal at all. I guess I can understand why someone might want to be cautious about revealing something like that, so by itself I wouldn't have thought too much of it. But added to the rest of the case against you, it's pretty damning. Although in that case, wouldn't the watcher have seen the redirector targeting Shirley too? Wait, didn't you say before that you didn't think I was scum? We are listening to reason. It would make absolutely no sense to let you go after you were seen targeting a dead man and after you inexplicably pretended to be a vanilla after you thought you'd been investigated. Though I agree that it's concerning how many people haven't bothered to vote.
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I always said I was a tracker, watcher was just the title I was initially given: Are you sure you don't have a role to claim? Because the watcher saw you targeting Shirley last night... And the watcher knew something that they couldn't possibly have known if they weren't telling the truth, so don't bother saying that they're lying. The cop didn't really target you. They investigated someone else, but those results aren't relevant at the moment. There's still a small possibility that you're the SK, but the Shirley kill seems more like a scum kill to me. Either way though, there's zero chance you're a townie.
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I'm not sure what to think of Russell. It seems awfully risky for more than one scum to have voted for Sarah, but as Russell said himself, he wasn't sure whether or not a Brian lynch would go ahead at that point. So I still think it's possible that the scum may have tried to quickly get a plausible lynch alternative to a strong teammate like Brian. I'm also a little concerned at the way Irene and Russell have been distancing themselves from each other today. And although they both find each other scummy, neither has actually voted for the other.
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The day's starting to get late, so I'd better reveal this now. Last night, the cop found us our second scumbag: Irene Allen. Unvote: Gregory McHenry (Lady K) Vote: Irene Allen (mostlytechnic)
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No, I'm the tracker. As I said, my role allows me to see who a player targeted at night. It just turns out I was accidentally given the wrong name in my initial PM.
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This time, it's more because you lightly defended Brian yesterday and were content to vote me off rather than create a no-lynch. You left your vote on me even when it was clear that momentum was shifting away from me and towards Brian. Even when Brian equalled and passed me in the vote count, you still maintained you were keeping your vote on me because you wanted a lynch to happen. That seems odd to me. It was only after Shirley called you out on this that you switched your vote.
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You and Gregory aren't the only options; the day is still early. If you think Irene is more likely to be scum than Greg, feel free to vote for her. I wouldn't be opposed to lynching her today either. Ace too, actually. Ace, why did you hold off on unvoting me yesterday until the end of the day, when you were present when I first announced I was the tracker? You're right, I am a little wary of the amount of role claims that have come my way. However, unless someone contests them, I will be inclined to believe them. It's unlikely that the scum would be confident enough to claim such major roles at this early stage in the game,
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I think Shirley really was on to something there after all. Vote: Gregory McHenry (Lady K)
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I've also got a watcher claim, a doctor claim and a vig claim. Let me know in private if anyone's lying.
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The whole Sarah bandwagon seems weird to me. I'm almost certain there's at least one scum aboard that bandwagon, but whether or not there's two I'm not quite sure. If there was two, however, I'd expect them to distance themselves from each other like this. Do you think there's still a possibility Sarah is scum? I'm inclined to believe she's town at this point. Agreed, it seems highly unlikely the scum could have found the cop at this point. Shirley certainly wasn't the cop, and I'm guessing she was the scum kill after she helped lead the lynch on Brian. To me, Shirley seems like a clear anti-town kill (scum or SK), Carl seems like an anti-scum kill (vig or SK) and Katherine is somewhere in the middle, and could have been killed by anyone. What does everyone else think?
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So are you still leaning towards me being scum? Even after Brian turned out a Milano? Because if you think we're both scum, I would have thought you'd be a little suspicious of whoever tried to shift the vote to Sarah... Brian was focused on Brian until Irene and Eric brought up Sarah. And at the time of your vote, Brian had 4 votes and Sarah had 2. So a Brian lynch was very much up for discussion. Obviously you're going to argue that you're town, but what do you think of Irene and Eric's votes for Sarah? Also, I should probably mention that someone came to me claiming to be the cop at some point after Day One. I'm not entirely sure why they did this, but I'm inclined to believe them unless someone else can prove otherwise.
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Ow, my face! As far as I'm aware, I wasn't blocked. I'm not sure why I was punched in the face or what it did, but it sure did hurt. I might as well have been blocked though, since I decided to track Shelley last night. She didn't do anything, so she was presumably a vanilla. That's certainly good news that Brian was scum though! In light of this news, I think the three who tried to shift the bandwagon from Brian to Sarah - Irene, Eric and Russel - are extremely suspect. Why do you say that? Sounds like you know something we don't. Are you perchance the serial face-puncher? I was told via PM that I was punched in the face, so I'm guessing it must be some sort of night action.
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