Hod Carrier

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  1. Unsure what is meant by “Native Multiple Unit Control”, but if this means that you can control more than one hub via the official app then you should enter “Yes” under Circuit Cubes as you can control two hubs at the same time. 


  2. 18 hours ago, ColletArrow said:

    I've just realised I never clarified, I was actually talking about the loco itself when I first mentioned it - since it's much smaller than the coaches it's also much lighter, and thus a little less stable.

    Weirdly the loco is quite stable. I haven’t noticed it wobbling much at all, and certainly no worse than the rest of the train, so I don’t feel it needs anything much adding to it.

    18 hours ago, ColletArrow said:

    How well does it run the other way, with the "loco" "propelling"? I would expect it to be very similar, since the train structure is practically symmetrical with the powered coach in the middle and an unpowered coach and small, light truck (effectively) at each end.

    As you rightly observe, the train is very symmetrical in terms of weight and layout which means it runs just as well in either direction. The first video shows the train running in both directions.

    18 hours ago, ColletArrow said:

    (Did I mention one of our party refused to get the train on the way back on our trip, preferring instead to walk? This might have been why... :grin: )

    LOL!! What was the problem? Was it the gaps in the boards or did get think it was going to fall through? 


  3. On 11/16/2021 at 2:35 PM, Tenderlok said:

    Germans can do weird, too... :wink:

    So true!! *oh2*

    Not sure that anything with a Trabant engine could ever be called "sporty", but it does give that wind-in-your-hair thrill. That said, seating for three burly blokes...? That's still quite a sizeable conveyance. :tongue:


  4. On 11/15/2021 at 5:16 PM, Feuer Zug said:

    Great mindset from a man who's mind is in the %&#er.

    Yup. It's all gone down the pan. :laugh_hard:

    On 11/15/2021 at 5:16 PM, Feuer Zug said:

    Really, your collection is well detailed and executed wonderfully. Your steam locomotive is a gem, but I still can't help but chuckle each time I see the blue loo.

    As an aside, being limited to small builds allowed us all to have fun, expand our horizons, and give people more equal footing. Sheer size isn't going to win this one. Best of luck.

    Thank you. That's very kind of you to say. :classic:


  5. On 11/15/2021 at 8:43 AM, LEGOTrainBuilderSG said:

    What an interesting (and odd, in a good way) looking train! Fantastic job on the coach and the technique used to mimic the sliding doors, brilliant stuff. 

    Definitely one of the memorable OcTRAINber entries. 

    Thank you. That's very kind of you to say. :classic:

    This is an update that I never thought I'd ever make. When folk spend so much time and effort trying to make their creations better, I've just spent an afternoon trying to make mine worse.

    I had already been aware of the motor coach's tendency to wobble even before posting the first video. I had been content to allow this issue to pass, but clearly the wobbles were worse than I imagined for them to have drawn comment.

    I spent a little bit of time trying to see if there was anything I could do to try and make the model more stable. The issue seems to be a combination of the motor coach having a long fixed wheelbase and the axles being supported only in the middle and not at the ends which seems to make it very picky about indifferent track quality. Unfortunately, there isn't enough space inside to make any changes to tune out the wobbles, so I've had to take the opposite approach instead. Try and make the other coaches equally wobbly.

    I have redesigned the bogie pivots and changed them from 2x2 turntable plates to a pin and hole pivot. With the modifications complete, the train went out for another little spin.

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    Well, the coaches do wobble more than before but perhaps not quite as much as the motor coach. Certainly on bends the motor coach seems to lurch and shake more, which is almost certainly a consequence of the fixed wheelbase, but then piers are normally mercifully straight. However, on the straights the behaviour of the motor coach no longer seems to stick out like a sore thumb.

    Thoughts...?


  6. We do like to do "weird" here in the UK. But you're right. I never expected there to be a 100 year old train still in commercial service working at it's original task and not specifically a subject of preservation. There can't be very many of those in the world.

    I'm pleased you like this model too. I'm lucky that, apart from the loco, it's basically square which is a shape I can do in LEGO. :classic:


  7. I think it helps that the builds are all small and modestly detailed. Plus I've had quite a bit of time off work to be able to devote to projects such as this. Earlier this year I was starting to worry that I'd lost the gift because I couldn't seem to get started on much, but I think this contest has given me some drive to get things done.

    The standard of my builds is not on the same level as other entries, but I don't really mind. I've extracted a huge amount of enjoyment out of the process, learned a lot of new things and, most importantly, laughed a lot along the way. For me, this has probably been the most enjoyable OcTRAINber yet, and if that's all I get out of the contest this year I shall still be very satisfied.


  8. 18 minutes ago, Tenderlok said:

    In German, too... "Fehler in allen Teilen" (flaws in all parts). :laugh:
    OT:
    BMW - "Bring mich Werkstatt" (grammatically wrong - kind of "underclass" slang - for "bring me to the car repair shop") or "Bin maßlos wichtig" ("I'm so very important")
    Ford - "Für Opa reicht das" ("sufficient for grandpa")
    :wink:

    LOL!!! :laugh_hard:

    We could drift a very long way off-topic if we're not careful, but I wanted to just reassure @Paperinik77pk that I'm not just having a pop at Italian engineering. In the UK, Ford can mean "Fix or repair daily". Even one of our most beloved sports car manufacturers doesn't get away scot-free, as Lotus can mean "Lots of trouble, usually serious". :snicker:


  9. LOL!! Laughing a lot at Giovanni and Giorgio having to push their beloved FIAT, and the oil spots that it's leaving in the track as it goes along. That's comedy gold right there. :laugh_hard:

    Did you know that in the UK "FIAT" is an acronym? It means "Fix it again tomorrow". :roflmao:

    I also watched your video presentation on Flickr. I couldn't help but think how much like a real FIAT it was. There was lots of noise but nothing came into view for what felt like a very long time, and then your little van came wheezing slowly into view and crawled around the curve at a very sedate speed. :iamded_lol:

    Great build, brilliant presentation and lots more to love besides. It's a wonderful wonderful project that you should be very proud of. You've squeezed so much character into a really tiny package. Congratulations!!


  10. That's fantastic!! Thanks for finding all that extra detail to put your excellent build into it's context. :thumbup:

    Given how short the process is, you are in that rare position of being able to build an entire railway system and operate it. I think maybe you should consider modelling the wagon also, as it's quite an interesting prototype in it's own right. But I respect your decision if you choose not to.

    "Workin' in a coal mine
    Goin' down, down, down
    Workin' in a coal mine
    Oops, about to slip down
    Workin' in a coal mine..." 


  11. 10 minutes ago, Paperinik77pk said:

    The full set is lovely, I like a lot the locomotive alone...but I'd say that the complete train is way more satisfying!:wub:

    Thank you, sir. Yes I definitely agree that having the entire train is way better than just one or two vehicles.

    @ColletArrow I think the wobbles are due to the axles being supported only in the middle and not at each end, and are caused by inconsistencies in the track. I've had it doing more laps and the wobbles always seem to strike at exactly the same places each time. I've also had it running back and forth across the floor without any track and it seems fairly smooth until it crosses the joints between one laminate tile and the next.

    I've had another good look at the design and I don't think there's enough space to get anything between the wheels and the inside of the coach sides to support the axle ends, so it might be just one of those things that I'll have to put up with. Alternatively I might have to look into ways of making the other cars wobble equally so that it doesn't stand out so much. I mean, the ride quality on the real train can't be that smooth after all. :wink:


  12. 1 hour ago, ColletArrow said:

    I was going to the New Forest for a walk, and hopped on the ferry and then the pier train, since the main railway line was closed for works. In fact, whilst I was riding this very train, I glanced at my phone and there was this page, with a LEGO version of the very same train staring straight back at me - couldn't beat that for timing!

    You're kidding!!! Ha ha!! Now that is some weird timing. :oh3:

    1 hour ago, ColletArrow said:

    Overall you've assembled a fantastic little train of models, which looks very good as a complete set of somewhat mis-matched carriages and loco. The doors technique works very well (even if it means you can't pose them open - we left them wide open throughout our journey today :grin:)

    I did notice that this was a very common occurrence from the photos I'd been studying, but I put that down to them probably having been taken during warmer weather. I probably could model it with open doors on the two unpowered coaches, but not on the motor coach.

    1 hour ago, ColletArrow said:

    The only thing from the video is the engine looks a tad light and wobbly - would there be any way to add weight to it?

    I presume you mean the motor coach...? Yes it is a wee bit wobbly, although I'm unsure exactly why. It's the heaviest car of the train and yet it's the only one that wobbles. Whether that's something to do with having motors onboard, the fixed wheelbase or whether it's meeting resistance through having to push/pull the rest of the train I shall have to try and find out. There may be some scope for adding weight but not much.

    1 hour ago, ColletArrow said:

    Finally, it has to be asked - are you going to build a model of the pier next? :tongue: Make sure to leave the prototepyical gaps between the planks, so you can look out of the train carriage straight down to the sea below!

    It looks like I might have to now. Ha ha!!


  13. 1 hour ago, zephyr1934 said:

    How long is the pier anyway and is it still an active ferry terminal? That would be extra amazing if the railway is still serving its original purpose.

    It certainly is still operating. I believe it has the title of the oldest electrically operated pier railway according to Guinness World Records, although I don’t think it’s a very large field with much competition in it. :laugh:

    The trip is stated to be 2100 feet / 640 metres. 


  14. Oh boy, have we got some great MOCs to enjoy this weekend. :drool:

    This shows your usual high standard of build and finish. Getting the front of these trains right must have been a real pain, but it looks like you nailed it as usual. Building in dark orange also must have made things really difficult in terms of part selection. Congratulations on a fantastic build and for getting onto the front page too. :classic:


  15. I thought that, because it doesn't really fit in with the topic of OcTRAINber, I would start a new thread for this model rather than diluting the OcTRAINber thread with any discussion of it.

    You may know that I had decided to build a model of the Hythe Pier Railway locomotive as an entry for the OcTRAINber contest. Well, that project didn't end there as I went on to build the entire train.

    The railway runs the length of Hythe Pier in Hampshire and connects the ferry terminal at it's head with the shore and the town of Hythe. It has been in existence since 1909 when it began using hand-propelled trolleys. The line was electrified in 1922 and has been in continuous operation ever since.

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    HythePierTramway-Hythe-081005 by Michael Wadman, on Flickr

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    Hythe Pier Tramway by Roger Marks, on Flickr

    I have chosen to model the entire three coach train together with the locomotive and baggage trolley, as these renders show.

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    The build of this train ran in parallel with my OcTRAINber contest builds.

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    This is the control trailer car which is always at the seaward end of the train. For simplicity the railway operates on a push-pull basis, so there has to be a control car at the opposite end to remotely control the locomotive. The pier railway actually has two of these to permit maintenance.

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    The coaches have sliding doors on one side only, as the platforms are always on the same side of the train and, because of the layout of the pier, there is no chance of the coaches being turned accidentally. This also has a safety benefit, as the seaward side of the train is where the electrified 3rd rail is found.

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    The cab of the control car. Visible through the large offset windscreen is the brake wheel.

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    This is the standard coach used by the railway showing the external sliding doors.

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    This coach, like the control car, has a full seated interior. In this case, it is divided into three bays.

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    This is the motor car. It is to the same external design as the other coach but inside is very different. Instead of an interior there is a Circuit Cubes bluetooth hub and a pair of motors mounted vertically. Access is by removing sections of the side and roof, as shown here.

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    The underside of the car showing the transmission. While the other cars have bogies, this car has fixed axles because I could not find a way to create power bogies within the space available. I have made sure to keep the level of this car the same as the others and ensure that the distance between the axles is the same as the distance between the bogie centres to ensure that it blends into the train as much as possible.

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    This is the baggage trolley that carries large items of luggage brought by passengers off the ferry. This was to have been a competition entry, but I decided that it wasn't really of high enough standard so I put that idea aside.

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    A little video of the pier train doing loops around my kitchen floor. The train runs very smoothly and prototypically slowly too. The only downside is the racket coming from the motor coach. Man, it's loud!!

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    This is the technique I used for the external sliding doors. The problem that I had was that I needed the doors to protrude from the coach sides by one plate but I needed whatever technique I used to be compact enough that it wouldn't intrude into the motor coach and prevent fitting of the power and control equipment. This is the view from the inside of the coach.

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    This is the same technique viewed from the outside of the coach showing the attachment and the offset.

    For a build that looks so straightforward there were quite a few challenges to overcome, most notably working out how to include the powertrain and make sure that the supporting structure for the doors was not too bulky. That said, I did enjoy the challenge and found a good use for the Circuit Cubes kit that I've been holding on to for a while. I hope you like it too.


  16. On 11/11/2021 at 3:47 PM, zephyr1934 said:

    Great parts usage with the droid leg.

    Thanks, Benn. I wanted to try and get a compact pivot arrangement for the body and this really was the only part for the job. It looks pretty good too.

    On 11/11/2021 at 3:47 PM, zephyr1934 said:

    That interior is over the top, great touch.

    It's a shame that it will all be hidden. There is also a roll of paper on the third wall, but including that would have made photographing it quite hard.

    On 11/11/2021 at 3:47 PM, zephyr1934 said:

    They all look great, but the Trevithick locomotive is probably still my favorite of the lot.

    So for an encore will you string all of your narrow gauge builds from this competition together for an anachronistic scene?

    Thank you so much. Strictly speaking, the Honey Bucket is standard gauge and the Trevithick doesn't run on compatible track, but I'll see what sort of cavalcade I can sort out.

    On 11/11/2021 at 8:21 PM, Asper said:

    Now you have a great collection of narrow gauge vehicles! Wonderful!

    Thank you, sir. Yes it's quite a mixed collection of different types, none of which would ever have been seen together in the same space. :laugh:

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    It's getting tight to the deadline now, but the final issue left outstanding has been dealt with.

    Luckily the postman brought me the parts needed to correct the problem I'd discovered with the tipper mounting point. If they hadn't come today I would have been sunk.

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    The tipper body is still supported on the handrails as before, but the handrails themselves are attached differently to the chassis. Rather than being attached to the sides they are now attached to the ends and are a bit closer together than before.

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    With the geometry now corrected, everything lines up as it ought without stress or parts being out of line. With the tipper body now in place the build is complete!!

    My WIP journey is now complete. All the builds are finished and just need to be properly photographed so that they can be entered. As always, I've had a real blast with OcTRAINber and, after an unpromising start, things have accelerated towards the finish. I've loved researching unusual prototypes so that I could bring you something different to see and have thoroughly enjoyed all the excellent feedback that the builds have generated. I may not have stuck very close to the "quality over quantity" mantra and haven't produced models to the same high standard as many others being entered, but I have had a blast and enjoyed myself hugely. For me it's been about participating and just having fun. I hope you've enjoyed the journey as much as I have and if anything I've done has made you smile then I will have achieved my aims.

    Best of luck to all competitors in all categories. It's been a classic year this year and I hope next year will be just as good.


  17. Lastly but not leastly, it's the turn of the rail tractor.

    As with the other builds, I started with the chassis and build upwards. It's a fairly vanilla concoction of plates and tiles as usual.

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    Building up from the chassis there is a layer of jumper plates to give an offset for the cab and bonnet. There's also a wooden deck at the back for work equipment.

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    Just to prove that there actually is a tractor underneath everything, a quick shot or two before the detailing and other greebles go on.

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    From the opposite side. It does show how basic the conversion was for these rail tractors that so much of it's former identity is still on show.

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    And now with greebles. An enclosed chain drive takes power from the tractor's existing gearbox and rear axle down to the rail chassis.

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    Plenty of work equipment stowed on the back for when the need arises as well as a tool chest up at the front.

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    The design of the tractor took a bit of tweaking to get right. There were aspects like the position of the axles and the height at which the body needed to be mounted that took a while to nail down before arriving at this design. However, a lot of the other aspects of the design were dictated simply by the parts available to me. Once I'd got the cab sorted out everything else had to scale to that.


  18. Time at last for the design that probably got the biggest reaction on Flickr.

    A very simple plates and tiles chassis for the Honey Bucket. These rolling out-houses are very lightly constructed as they don't have to carry much weight (usually), so it was important to keep the chassis as slim as possible. The trans-clear plates in the middle are the attachment point for the Honey Bucket itself, as there is often a clear gap between the chassis and the base which needed to be replicated.

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    The interior of the Honey Bucket has not been forgotten. All mod-cons have been included. There's a nice comfy seat with a lid, a dispenser for hand sanitiser and even a loo brush for, erm, debugging the system.

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    The completed cubicle on it's chassis. Plates with door rails were used at the corners to hide the gaps between the plates and to give some continuity to the external shape.

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    This design is actually v1.1. The original version stood on a 4x4 plate with sides 8 studs high, but it quickly became apparent that this was going to be way too large to scale correctly. The answer was to make it 3/4 size on a 3x3 plate with sides 6 studs high. This seems to work a lot better.

    No prizes for spotting the mistake at this stage of the build. Yup, I put the cubicle on the chassis the wrong way round so that the door was at the opposite side to the step. Doh!!

    Step now on the correct side and the cage built up.

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    The cage is not there for any safety reasons but to provide a lifting point so that the vehicle can be attached to a crane and lifted. Presumably these conveniences are taken to the worksite access point on the back of a truck along with any other road-rail equipment and then hauled to the worksite itself by some other piece of self-propelled MOW equipment.

    The reverse side of the cage. Not sure what the orange cone is for, but they all seem to have one. Any ideas...?

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    This has been a really fun build which I enjoyed immensely. I didn't want to build anything too serious, and this suited that brief perfectly.


  19. Next up is a lot of people's favourite. The bobber caboose.

    The very basic chassis for the Kiso Forest Railway logging caboose. Jumper plates are used on top to give the offset for the cabin which keeps the whole model nice and short.

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    The chassis is built up with the base for the cabin, the chassis sides and steps.

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    Not all the components for the cabin can be fixed in the conventional stud-to-stud manner. These side pieces have to slot in between the central sections and be held in place by the rest of the construction. The two halves have plates with lamp holders and are joined using a 1x2 tile before slotting into place.

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    Quite a pretty face, don't you think? The profile bricks give a hint of wood panelling.

    I was unsure which colour to use as, like many defunct prototypes, there are few if any colour photos. These cabooses are frequently modelled in various scales by narrow gauge enthusiasts who generally paint them in a shade similar to reddish brown, but I wanted something a little more classy and, having checked availability of parts, opted for dark red.

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    Roof on and handrails added, and the tiny bobber caboose is just about done.

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    This particular build has been an absolute joy and I'm thrilled with the model I have ended up with. There was a minor amount of head-scratching needed during the design process to make sure that everything looked as it should, but it actually turned out to be a very straightforward process in the end which lead to a simple and satisfying build.

    So that's two down, two left to go.