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It all depends on how close the Ideas proposal is to a releasable set. Something like the Ecto-1 or the Research Institute was fairly close to a releasable set whereas the Exo-Suit was a lot further away from releasable.

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I sure hope they release at least 2 of them by the end of the year.

In the video for the latest review, didn't they mention that one of the two latest approved sets would be out in late 2016 and the other in 2017?

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In the video for the latest review, didn't they mention that one of the two latest approved sets would be out in late 2016 and the other in 2017?

I believe so. That's what I was thinking when I said "Based on what little was indicated about the expected release in the first announcement from this year" in my previous post. I can't watch the video just now, though.

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Wow, the Saturn V!

Better start saving now, because it will be expensive, but worth it. We just got back from Washington DC and saw both Air and Space Museums. Just the gift shops in those locations alone could make this profitable. We will buy it on day one even if it means having to have a little debt to pay off. The interest in manned space flight to the moon remains strong and Saturn V will do very well.

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Assorted records, firsts and other points of interest for LEGO CUUSOO / Ideas:

Shinkai 6500

• First CUUSOO-crowdsourced set in the program

- Everything this set did, it was obviously therefore the first at, including being the first CUUSOO set based on a real-life subject; also the first CUUSOO set with custom-decorated elements (via stickers).

Hayabusa

• First CUUSOO set with a minifigure

• First CUUSOO set with printed elements (the minifigure parts)

• First CUUSOO set made available outside Japan

Minecraft Micro world

• First CUUSOO set selected by 10,000 supporters rather than 1,000 (the original vote goal in the early days)

• First CUUSOO set selected by users around the globe, not just in Japan

• First CUUSOO set based on a licensed pop-culture entertainment franchise

• First CUUSOO set with a modular-style build

• First CUUSOO set to include non-minifigure-scale figures (brick-built microfigures)

• First CUUSOO set to include new / custom printed elements (the minifigure in Hayabusa used an existing head and torso)

• First CUUSOO set to spin off a whole new theme

• Record holder for fastest CUUSOO / Ideas project to date to get 10,000 votes (garnered full support within 48 hours of posting)

Back to the Future DeLorean time machine

• First CUUSOO set of a minifigure-scale vehicle (Hayabusa is an unmanned probe, and the model is not to scale with minifigures; the minifigure is included solely as a display companion piece)

• First CUUSOO set with new / custom printed minifigures

• First / earliest CUUSOO model build to appear in a LEGO video game (tied with the Ectomobile and TARDIS, all three appearing in LEGO Dimensions; the DeLorean was the earliest released of the three)

• First CUUSOO set to raise money for a charity

• First CUUSOO set with a customer service replacement part

Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity Rover

• First CUUSOO set to not have any decorated elements (either stickers or prints)

• First CUUSOO set released the same calendar year as another CUUSOO / Ideas set

Ghostbusters Ectomobile

• First CUUSOO / Ideas set to carry "Ideas" branding rather than "CUUSOO"

• First CUUSOO / Ideas set approved over a competing project of the same subject matter from the same review batch

• First CUUSOO / Ideas set to leapfrog a previously-approved CUUSOO / Ideas project in the production queue

• First Ideas set release timed to a special date / occasion (the 30th anniversary, noted on the packaging)

• First Ideas set to include a minifigure of a person of color in a realistic (non-yellow) skin tone

Exo Suit

• First approved Ideas project leapfrogged by a later-approved project in the production queue

• First Ideas set directly tied to a specific classic, traditional LEGO theme (classic Space)

• First Ideas set released simultaneously with another (tied with Research Institute)

• First Ideas set to include a female minifigure (tied with Research Institute)

Research Institute

• First Ideas set approved after being held over from an earlier review batch

• First Ideas set released simultaneously with another (tied with Exo Suit)

• First Ideas set to include a female minifigure (tied with Exo Suit)

• Record holder for smallest / least expensive Ideas set to date (165 pieces, $19.99 USD)

Birds

• First Ideas set of completely natural subject matter (excluding display base nameplates)

• First Ideas set in life-size or larger scale

The Big Bang Theory

• First Ideas set from the creator of a previous set

• Record holder for the most minifigures in an Ideas set to date (seven)

WALL•E

• First Ideas set of a large-scale, posable figure (some of the Birds have some limited ranges of movement, but only to an extremely limited degree and as a side consequence of the building techniques used; WALL•E is more action-figure-like)

Doctor Who TARDIS

• First Ideas model to appear in a LEGO video game before the set's release

Maze

• First Ideas set to include a baseplate

• First Ideas set to fully duplicate (including size and functionality) a real-world object, just in LEGO

• First "abstract" Ideas set (though replicating a real-world object, that object itself is an abstract game)

• Record holder for largest, most expensive Ideas set to date (769 pieces, $69.99 USD)

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Some notable milestones we've yet to see:

• First Ideas set with DUPLO elements, Power Functions, minidolls, or CCBS "constraction" figures

• First Ideas set from a pre-existing licensed theme

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Wow, the Saturn V!

Better start saving now, because it will be expensive, but worth it. We just got back from Washington DC and saw both Air and Space Museums. Just the gift shops in those locations alone could make this profitable. We will buy it on day one even if it means having to have a little debt to pay off. The interest in manned space flight to the moon remains strong and Saturn V will do very well.

I would suggest grab it as soon as you see it. Most Lego stores never even saw the Curiosity Rover it came and went so fast.

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I would suggest grab it as soon as you see it. Most Lego stores never even saw the Curiosity Rover it came and went so fast.

From what I was told, it wasn't even normally stocked in LEGO Stores at all, at least in the U.S.; it was an online-only exclusive. Outside the U.S., though, it apparently was much easier to get - not only sold in stores, but available for months.

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Assorted records, firsts and other points of interest for LEGO CUUSOO / Ideas:

Nice compilation Blondie-Wan!

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Nice compilation Blondie-Wan!

Thanks! One I forgot to put in is that the Doctor Who set should be the current record holder for the most printed elements - it has something like fifty of them, including the minifigure elements plus a couple spares. I'll get an exact count later and add it to my previous post.

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Castle fans may be heartened to see the lovely Merchant's House is the latest Ideas project to reach 10,000 supports. It joins the Addams Family Mansion, Spaceballs - Eagle 5, and Voltron - Defender of the Universe projects in the Second 2016 Review Batch, along with whatever else hits its goal between now and early September or so. The Merchant's House is the first non-licensed project in the batch.

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Castle fans may be heartened to see the lovely Merchant's House is the latest Ideas project to reach 10,000 supports. It joins the Addams Family Mansion, Spaceballs - Eagle 5, and Voltron - Defender of the Universe projects in the Second 2016 Review Batch, along with whatever else hits its goal between now and early September or so. The Merchant's House is the first non-licensed project in the batch.

It looks great on the outside, but I get the impression that there is no interior. I have very serious doubts about its viability as a product. It also looks to have far too many parts. This is another example of a great MOC that does not translate into a great set.

Its a shame, though, because it looks beautiful.

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Oh, I don't think it's likely, either (though I'd love to be wrong, and I did in fact support it myself). I just meant Castle fans might take heart in the fact that even with projects based on pop culture, high-performance vehicles, and scientific exploration (most of which I love, myself) seemingly dominating Ideas, a beautiful historical castle-type creation can still garner full support as well.

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It looks great on the outside, but I get the impression that there is no interior. I have very serious doubts about its viability as a product. It also looks to have far too many parts. This is another example of a great MOC that does not translate into a great set.

Its a shame, though, because it looks beautiful.

The "Updates" section includes interior pics. So if it's not viable as a product it probably won't be for that reason. But the piece count and the number of fiddly connections might present a challenge. The designer says it's sturdy and playable, but TLG's standards for sturdiness can sometimes be a lot stricter than fan standards.

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Oh c'mon that's not a set.... That's a MOC

LEGO Ideas is being used by AFOLs to show off their fancy MOC's :hmpf:

It'll take like 1 second to reject that in the review

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Castle fans may be heartened to see the lovely Merchant's House is the latest Ideas project to reach 10,000 supports. It joins the Addams Family Mansion, Spaceballs - Eagle 5, and Voltron - Defender of the Universe projects in the Second 2016 Review Batch, along with whatever else hits its goal between now and early September or so. The Merchant's House is the first non-licensed project in the batch.

Already a nope. Looks cool though.

Oh c'mon that's not a set.... That's a MOC

LEGO Ideas is being used by AFOLs to show off their fancy MOC's :hmpf:

It'll take like 1 second to reject that in the review

Could not have said it better myself.

Meanwhile my project is sitting at around 5200 supporters... the game site itself seems to have stopped talking about it and it's kind of old.. I was thinking of "updating" it, any ideas on how I can get more support by September?

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Oh, I don't think it's likely, either (though I'd love to be wrong, and I did in fact support it myself). I just meant Castle fans might take heart in the fact that even with projects based on pop culture, high-performance vehicles, and scientific exploration (all of which I love, myself) seemingly dominating Ideas, a beautiful historical castle-type creation can still garner full support as well.

It is definitely nice to see that a Castle-like project has broken 10,000 supporters.

The "Updates" section includes interior pics. So if it's not viable as a product it probably won't be for that reason. But the piece count and the number of fiddly connections might present a challenge. The designer says it's sturdy and playable, but TLG's standards for sturdiness can sometimes be a lot stricter than fan standards.

I didn't see those before. Color me surprised! I actually like the interiors, and I'm starting to be more excited about this as a set. Of course, the piece count will have to be adjusted.

I also noticed that it looks like it was made in LDD. It's hard to know for sure how sturdy something will be in a digital medium. I'm hoping that any issues could be worked out in the inevitable redesign process that all sets go through.

I went from admiring but doubtful to impressed and hopeful.

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Meanwhile my project is sitting at around 5200 supporters... the game site itself seems to have stopped talking about it and it's kind of old.. I was thinking of "updating" it, any ideas on how I can get more support by September?

At least some of those who've gotten projects to reach the goal have credited frequent Updates with maintaining public interest and attention in their projects, and attracting new supporters. It seems to me you might want to give it a try. It might be especially helpful to go through your supporter comments and see if they've made any suggestions or requests, especially any frequently recurring ones.

In the meantime, take heart - out of all projects still in "Gathering Support" mode, your project is currently the 21st most-supported project on the site, and you've gotten over halfway to the support goal in about four months; that's frankly a lot better than most.

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You could offer to divulge the secret of your "Informant" to whoever supports you, links the page to their Facebook and tags at least 20 friends.

And then, plot-twist, you don't actually divulge the secret of your "Informant". Instead, you give them your ex's email address.

It's a double prank.

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It's just plain hard to attract 10,000 supports. In all the time this enterprise has been around, there have been well over 17,000 projects posted (closer to 18,000, in fact), and in all that time, from the early days of LEGO CUUSOO eight years ago right up to the present, I think there have been fewer than a hundred projects that have gotten 10,000 votes. The rate at which projects do hit that goal is picking up, but that's partly just because there are so many more submissions these days than there used to be, and it's still tough for any one project to do. It's a big accomplishment whenever one does.

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You could buy 4800 fake IDs from a Spam on this website, and use the names to make new Ideas accounts, and then support your own project.

Of course, this is highly illegal in more ways than one, but you do seem pretty desperate.

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Omg Actor Builder lol

Meanwhile my project is sitting at around 5200 supporters... the game site itself seems to have stopped talking about it and it's kind of old.. I was thinking of "updating" it, any ideas on how I can get more support by September?

What about promoting your project on social media?

There are several facebook groups of AFOLs where you can promote it

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If so, I hope Universal realise how many people they're disappointing by not allowing sets based on the original Jurassic Park films.

IP licensing can be complicated. The Jurrasic XXX stuff considerably more so than might be readily apparent. There may be a third party that has a piece of the licensing rights to one or more of the prior JP films. Hence the rename to Jurrasic World, a shift in colors and logos. It insures the current franchise holders of the complete merchandise take, without having to deal with partners from 20 years ago.

That Jurrasic Park set was never going to happen. Just too many clear conflicts going on there. An active IP license for the new property with Lego. Potential conflicts between old and new. Veto of current IP owners. And the one that I keep mentally circling back to, the Jurrasic World license likely specifically precludes JP sets as an element of a non compete.

Movie merchandise can be very very strange. The merchandising rights are often assigned by movie, not by global character IP or franchise. And how it works today is not how it worked 20 or 30 years ago. Remember the only pay George Lucas took from the original Star Wars in 1977 was the merchandising rights. The studio gave them away to him in lieu of pay or a percentage of the gross. How studios handled these rights has evolved over time. By the 90's everybody involved wanted a piece of the merchandise pie. By today the studio tends to keep tighter reins on those rights, and keep them exclusively to the corporation.

Lego's 2 prior movie based Ideas sets involved movie properties that by Hollywood standards have a fairly simple clean concise path for merchandising. The movies were made by established parties and major studios with enough sway and experience to not use the merchandising for production horse trading, and to keep control over it narrow and tight. Ghostbusters is famous for that. (Well besides the Filmation lawsuits.) the two studios best known for keeping a tight fisted grip on merchandising, and an eye towards utilizing it long term, are Disney and Warner Brothers. Fox and Universal have never had quite the same long term approach, which makes some of there properties much more complicated.

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Castle fans may be heartened to see the lovely Merchant's House is the latest Ideas project to reach 10,000 supports.

Saw this on The Brick Fan today. It's a cool idea but I just don't see it passing. I don't think it will appeal to the average consumer and I don't think being popular among one community like Castle will be enough for Lego. However, would I buy it? Yes.

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As I noted earlier, I don't think it's particularly likely, either, though it's beautiful and I supported it (and I'd love to be wrong about its chances).

I actually think the Voltron one is not only the likeliest of the four projects in this batch so far, but that it's actually fairly likely, period (well, just so long as there aren't a lot of messy conditions with the rights).

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