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18 hours ago, jonwil said:

That Winnie the Pooh set looks like its impossible to pull off without a new head mold for Winnie (which is why it will probably not pas review)

 

Isn't the one in the proposal just the Panda Suit Guy head from the Lego Movie CMF series?

It looks like a fine solution to me. I'd be more worried about some of the other figures like Piglet and Rabbit, whose "hood" style headgear seems far less accurate to the characters and as such far less likely to be deemed acceptable by the licensor.

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Just wait 2 years, it will be a set... just not an Ideas one...:smug:

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13 hours ago, Lyichir said:

Isn't the one in the proposal just the Panda Suit Guy head from the Lego Movie CMF series?

It looks like a fine solution to me. I'd be more worried about some of the other figures like Piglet and Rabbit, whose "hood" style headgear seems far less accurate to the characters and as such far less likely to be deemed acceptable by the licensor.

Piglet looks fine but the Rabbit is awful. Also the mix of minifig and brick build characters does not provide a consistent look. Tiger looks way off from the others.

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Yay! I love Winnie the Pooh!

On 7/11/2019 at 6:06 AM, jonwil said:

That Winnie the Pooh set looks like its impossible to pull off without a new head mold for Winnie (which is why it will probably not pas review)

The part used by the designer looks pretty good to me.  I've seen it before somewhere but can't remember exactly where, I'm sure it's a genuine (though probably long-retired) head piece. Edit: Just realised, as @Lyichir suggested it is indeed the Panda head from the collectable minifigure series.


 

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On 7/7/2019 at 6:42 PM, anothergol said:

I don't even understand the controversy about the T.Rex because.. that's not even an idea, it's "just" a T.Rex. It's not even linked to Jurassic Park, it's a T.Rex, a dinosaur that sells by itself as a toy, that has always had - kids love dinosaurs.

That's why I have a problem with "Lego Ideas": for many it really is about ideas. And they may be right, as Lego doesn't respect the original designs & redoes them (often for the better, but not always).

So even if the T.Rex had been accepted, there's the possibility that it would have ended up like in the Jurassic Park set anyway. But to me, the build is the most important. The Ideas one is a much better looking build. It looks kinda fragile, it looks like Lego would have to redo it, and that's the problem. I would pay for that T.Rex as shown, not just "a T.Rex". And Lego's one doesn't even look bad.. it's just that the other one looks like a piece of art.
I seriously hope that the Ideas one is gonna end up being produced by the chinese, because that may be the only hope we have, just like for other MOCs that are either too fragile/not "properly built" or are simply against Lego's rules because of their theme.

But again, to me Lego Ideas is hardly about ideas. Aside from Jason Allemann, no one has ideas there (even though even Jason's entries are Lego versions of popular mechanisms, at least they're done creatively).
<insert your favorite show>+Lego isn't an idea, it's something a bot could do. Lego didn't need an Ideas T.Rex project to gauge the appeal for a Lego T.Rex, it's a T.Rex, kids love them!
To me it's all about the builds, or it *should be*.

Well, the "idea" in question isn't just building a T. Rex, which any MOCist could do — it's coming up with a way to turn that build into a LEGO set that people will be interested in buying.

Even if LEGO almost inevitably makes changes to the specific building techniques used in LEGO Ideas projects, they still try to maintain as much of what people liked about the original project as possible while making improvements where they deem necessary.

The T. Rex in question isn't a great supporting argument for your point, because if the set had been based on the Ideas project at all, then it probably would have been much more similar to that project in terms of scale and the way it's presented (e.g. as a playset instead of more of a UCS-type sculpture with accompanying vignettes).

But when you compare actual Ideas sets like Voltron or Flintstones or the Ecto-1 or the Pop-Up Book, a lot of stuff like the scale, character selections, and play features remain more or less similar — LEGO just tries to improve the model either in of stability, accuracy, or ability to manufacture.

That last consideration MIGHT have been a critical issue for the T. Rex either during review or if it had been chosen to be developed into a set, as I haven't really found any indication of whether senteosan ever built his T. Rex as a physical model…. All the pics of the Ideas project are renders, which among other things use lots of bricks in colors they don't appear in IRL, and give no indication of how well/how long the Rex can hold the asymmetrical pose it's shown in in every image it appears in.

Even so, none of that would be reason for the designers to increase its overall size to as massive a scale as the non-Ideas-inspired T. Rex set ended up being… particularly when the tendency with past Ideas sets has generally been for designers to make them SMALLER and more affordable to make them accessible to the largest possible audience.

So I don't think it makes sense to assume that an eventual set version of the Ideas project would have disappointed you in the same ways that the eventual T. Rex set did… but that's not to say it wouldn't have been changed in other ways.

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20 hours ago, Aanchir said:

That last consideration MIGHT have been a critical issue for the T. Rex either during review or if it had been chosen to be developed into a set

That's what I believe, yes. I'd be Lego, I'd think "too fragile, too many retired parts, can we redo it? Yes but then it won't look as good. Does it matter for this build? Yes/no".
Not for this specific MOC though, since they were already working on one, and that was probably the main reason. Can't imagine them releasing 2 brick-built T-Rex within the same 2 years. Or I'd release the "ugly" one first. (it's not really that ugly, it's just that we have something much better to compare it to)

It would have certainly disappointed me, because that T-Rex is the best you can do with bricks. Some of the ideas are really amateurish, so of course Lego can improve them (even though they managed to turn a not-so-good MOC [DeLorean] even worse). But here, we've seen the best a MOC can do, it just can't compare to the best a set can do, following Lego's rules.
By looking at the MOC, I'm sure it would stand on its feet (it's not that big), I'm also sure you'd knock off some parts by handling it. It wouldn't matter to me because it's a pure display model, and I wish Lego had a category in which it didn't matter either. If Lego had one, it should be Ideas. A place showing the best that can be done with parts & more rigid rules (yes even if that means bringing back retired parts - Lego has done that in the past).

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The Seinfeld 30th Anniversary has crossed the 5000 supporter mark and is rapidly gaining support. Has 5509 at the time of this post. If this made it to review after 10k, I would hope LEGO produces it. I am aware the show has a lot of inappropriate content, but so does other similar show-based sets like the Friends set and the Big Bang Theory set. Seinfeld is much more popular than either of these two, however and would likely sell highly. 

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/763f0060-42c3-4329-9a39-d7dec10f72ce

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Wow at that Haunted Mansion.  I am able to fight back the temptation to save for the Disney train, but if this ever saw the light of day, I am in.  If they tweak it and add some famous characteristics of the ride, it would be amazing.  It needs the floating crystal ball, the clock that strikes 13, the books in the library need to have a function that pops them in and out, and in the ballroom, the pictures of the two duelers need to be up there.  

Hopefully, this gets Disney's attention.  I would assume the fact that it made it to review means it is eligible despite the fact that a Disney themed set already became an Ideas set.  Unless they really mess this up or give it a Millennium Falcon price, I will buy this thing.  

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I just noticed something on the Lego Ideas contests, I'm not saying that the chosen creations aren't winners or something like that, but almost every winner in these contest are digital builds. For example, in the Ford Mustang contests, 6 out of 6 winners were digital; Jurassic Park contest, 3 out of 3 digital winners; Stranger Things contest, 3 out of 3 digital winners; James Bond, 3 out of 3 digital winners; Pop-Up Story, 8 prizes, 2 of them that are bonus prizes are physical builds and so on.

I like to participate in the Ideas contests, but I like to build physical creations and I have the feeling that physical builds have some kind of disadvantage compared to digital builds, it's kind of discouraging.

I'm really curious if there is any reason for that, because as I said, there is almost no winners with physical builds in all the recent contests: https://ideas.lego.com/search/global_search?type=contests&amp;query=&amp;sort=most_recent

 

 

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14 hours ago, hachiroku said:

I just noticed something on the Lego Ideas contests, I'm not saying that the chosen creations aren't winners or something like that, but almost every winner in these contest are digital builds. For example, in the Ford Mustang contests, 6 out of 6 winners were digital; Jurassic Park contest, 3 out of 3 digital winners; Stranger Things contest, 3 out of 3 digital winners; James Bond, 3 out of 3 digital winners; Pop-Up Story, 8 prizes, 2 of them that are bonus prizes are physical builds and so on.

I like to participate in the Ideas contests, but I like to build physical creations and I have the feeling that physical builds have some kind of disadvantage compared to digital builds, it's kind of discouraging.

I'm really curious if there is any reason for that, because as I said, there is almost no winners with physical builds in all the recent contests: https://ideas.lego.com/search/global_search?type=contests&amp;query=&amp;sort=most_recent

 

 

Yes you are right, and you're not the only one that thinks it. The reason for this is that bricks are expensive and not everybody can afford bricks to build an idea, so Lego wants to give everybody an oppurtunity by allowing digital creations. For me it would be fair to do separated contests for real build and digital builds, or at least to reserve one prize per contest only for real creations cause they are the minority.

Said that, I think that I will not participate other contests in future. I entered 4 high quality entries in the last Jurassic Park contest and I'm a little frustrated to see the winners, it's just a waste of time.

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On 8/15/2019 at 11:09 PM, hachiroku said:

I like to participate in the Ideas contests, but I like to build physical creations and I have the feeling that physical builds have some kind of disadvantage compared to digital builds, it's kind of discouraging.

I don't think there is any conscious bias favouring digital builds, but it is a little curious that so many winning builds in the recent contests are digital. I think a well photographed physical build has a chance, so I wouldn't give up entirely. Like you I prefer to build with bricks, building digitally just does not give me the same enjoyment. There are both advantages & disadvantages to building digital, but I do think those who are skilled with software have an advantage in terms of speed (at least for many types of builds).

On 8/16/2019 at 1:30 PM, Mbrick said:

I entered 4 high quality entries in the last Jurassic Park contest and I'm a little frustrated to see the winners, it's just a waste of time.

I don't know which builds are yours so I can't comment specifically on them, but in general I think your chances would be better if you put all your efforts into one build. The prices for many of these competitions are excellent so the competition is pretty tough. I think the Jurassic Park Grand Prize winner was a good choice, and I can see the qualities in the runners up selections as well. I do think there are more builds that could just as easily been chosen as runners up, but at the end of the day it is what appeals to the jury that specific day...

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Just a quick question and I hope someone can shed light into this: has anyone noticed that the Japanese Tea Garden and Gravity Falls Mystery Shack were dropped from the Second 2019 LEGO Ideas Review Stage, considering that it has not yet officially begun? Check out the links below for LEGO's official statements. LEGO simply refers to it as "Decision on Our Ability to Produce this Project". Is this a first time? Because frankly, I don't see the need to do so at this early stage since LEGO can simply give it a pass when they announce the next official set. Any thoughts?

Gravity Falls - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/ec3ae09e-8507-4d51-b6da-3d08cf6de050/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

Japanese Tea Garden - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9af5661d-d8a0-42a3-a2fc-43b6c5e9c56f/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

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10 hours ago, albertbalanza said:

Just a quick question and I hope someone can shed light into this: has anyone noticed that the Japanese Tea Garden and Gravity Falls Mystery Shack were dropped from the Second 2019 LEGO Ideas Review Stage, considering that it has not yet officially begun? Check out the links below for LEGO's official statements. LEGO simply refers to it as "Decision on Our Ability to Produce this Project". Is this a first time? Because frankly, I don't see the need to do so at this early stage since LEGO can simply give it a pass when they announce the next official set. Any thoughts?

Gravity Falls - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/ec3ae09e-8507-4d51-b6da-3d08cf6de050/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

Japanese Tea Garden - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9af5661d-d8a0-42a3-a2fc-43b6c5e9c56f/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

Huh, I don't know whether to be concerned or just simply perplexed by that move. I mean, I could see Disney learning just now of @figura's Gravity Falls project, and requesting TLG prematurely remove it from review to squash any suggestion that submissions based upon such will be seriously considered; but, why the Japanese Tea Garden? I mean, what, does it conflict with Lego's Ninjago??? :def_shrug:

Speaking of Disney though, check out the latest project to reach the Second 2019 Review Stage... :blush:

LEGO Ideas - The Seven Dwarfs' House by Hanwasyellowfirst

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13 hours ago, albertbalanza said:

Just a quick question and I hope someone can shed light into this: has anyone noticed that the Japanese Tea Garden and Gravity Falls Mystery Shack were dropped from the Second 2019 LEGO Ideas Review Stage, considering that it has not yet officially begun? Check out the links below for LEGO's official statements. LEGO simply refers to it as "Decision on Our Ability to Produce this Project". Is this a first time? Because frankly, I don't see the need to do so at this early stage since LEGO can simply give it a pass when they announce the next official set. Any thoughts?

Gravity Falls - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/ec3ae09e-8507-4d51-b6da-3d08cf6de050/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

Japanese Tea Garden - https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9af5661d-d8a0-42a3-a2fc-43b6c5e9c56f/official_comments#content_nav_tabs

How strange. I assume the gravity falls set was turned down for licencing issues or something like that. But as @Digger of Bricks mentions, there is no obvious reason why the Japanese Tea Garden has been rejected. :def_shrug: 

It must be very disappointing for the designers when they've gone to all the effort promoting there models, only for them to be rejected for review after they've reached 10,000. I only hope the designers have still been given the $500 Lego consolation prize that is normally awarded for projects that reach 10,000.

 

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16 hours ago, albertbalanza said:

Because frankly, I don't see the need to do so at this early stage since LEGO can simply give it a pass when they announce the next official set. Any thoughts?

I think it's fair they informed us. It's not that these projects were simply not approved after the review, it's that they won't be reviewed at all. If it was kept a secret, you'd be thinking they were tested properly like the others, when in fact they weren't.  Something must have happened that hasn't before which resulted in premature rejection of both projects. The weird part is that we're not given the actual reason, in fact, given the closing of comment sections, we're not supposed to know.

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