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This one... its 2013 set Dragon isnt it? The question is... why would LEGO release a NEW dragon with Hobbit films if they have no intention of reusing it....

They did so for the the dwarves their beards, they did so for the Harry Potter dragon, they did it for Davy jones and his crew members, they ( apparently) did it with the cave troll and the Goblin King, ... Need I go on?

Lego has done this a lot.

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There's probably another D2C set around the corner since there's usually two in the Summer (one of which is always a SW one). But I'm not sure if it's likely to be based on the Hobbit, now with Smaug being included in the regular sets there aren't that many options for something iconic to be released in such a scale :laugh: If there's another Middle-Earth based D2C set, I'd rather see something from LOTR (even though new molds we dearly need wouldn't be included) :sweet: Frankly, I guess it's a Marvel set instead, it's currently the only licensed theme that's in desperate need of one :wink:

Erebor and thranduils realm both have beautiful exteriors, theres also rivendell.

This one... its 2013 set Dragon isnt it? The question is... why would LEGO release a NEW dragon with Hobbit films if they have no intention of reusing it....

That was made for the 2007 castle sets.

Lego makes 1off molds all the time..

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Erebor and thranduils realm both have beautiful exteriors, theres also rivendell.

That was made for the 2007 castle sets.

Lego makes 1off molds all the time..

Still my question holds.... why would they make a new mold for something as obscure as 4 Hobbit Sets.... I mean such mold would be hardly reusable... sure you can argue about Wampa Cave beast mold but that was SW and we all know what SW is/was back then :D

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Still my question holds.... why would they make a new mold for something as obscure as 4 Hobbit Sets.... I mean such mold would be hardly reusable... sure you can argue about Wampa Cave beast mold but that was SW and we all know what SW is/was back then :D

Why would they do it? For movie accuracy. And it's what lego does as doctor jones mentioned: cave toll and goblin king both got new molds.

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Still my question holds.... why would they make a new mold for something as obscure as 4 Hobbit Sets.... I mean such mold would be hardly reusable... sure you can argue about Wampa Cave beast mold but that was SW and we all know what SW is/was back then :D

There's also the cave troll and goblin king, both for one off sets. I'd hope that lego would produce a new mold for Smaug- the current dragon just doesn't do him justice. Sadly, I can also see Lego just reusing that mold.

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Still my question holds.... why would they make a new mold for something as obscure as 4 Hobbit Sets.... I mean such mold would be hardly reusable... sure you can argue about Wampa Cave beast mold but that was SW and we all know what SW is/was back then :D

Maybe it's not just only for the Hobbit? A new Dragon mold could easily be reused in future castle/fantasy lines. Seems not so unrealistic.

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Why would they do it? For movie accuracy. And it's what lego does as doctor jones mentioned: cave toll and goblin king both got new molds.

For movie accuracy.... Look at helm's Deep and Weathertop... hardly MOVIE ACCURATE in size and doing justice? barely :) Castle Dragon would do as much justice to Smaug as a 130$ minas Tirith would do justice to the movie one :P

the current dragon just doesn't do him justice

Well to be honest.... many LEGO products/sets their counterparts on screen do little justice.....

Maybe it's not just only for the Hobbit? A new Dragon mold could easily be reused in future castle/fantasy lines. Seems not so unrealistic.

They could indeed..... But it seems they are just closing down Hobbit... so I wonder if LEGO would bother that much.... I can see different wings on a mold thats for sure...

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I agree, TLG does this a lot of time, even if it's a pretty big one-off mold (Rancor, Wampa, Dewback, Boga, USM Green Goblin, Dinos from the 2012 line, etc). The current dragon is just the wrong type of dragon since Smaug doesn't have 6 limbs like that one does :tongue:

Edit: They even do it for their own IPs from time to time (Rock Monster, the new Chima mammoths etc.) :wink:

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For movie accuracy.... Look at helm's Deep and Weathertop... hardly MOVIE ACCURATE in size and doing justice? barely :) Castle Dragon would do as much justice to Smaug as a 130$ minas Tirith would do justice to the movie one :P

Using the Castle dragon as Smaug would be the same as using a normal castle as Helm's Deep. While the produced models don't always completely look like their movie counterparts, they're always pretty true to the source material and easily recognizable.

If Lego really wanted to reuse a mold, they would take that Hungarian Horntale which I mentioned. It looks alike, just the colour and the size are off.

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Another Lake Town set sounds nice, the first one was pretty good.

But very dissapointed to hear that we won't be getting any LOTR sets, with the LOTR theme having been the source of some of the best sets from LEGO in the last couple of years in my opinion.

Oh well, with no Castle sets either it looks like 2014 might be an affordable LEGO year for me at least.

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They could also have plans to use the mold for future variations of dragons. Perhaps a future Vikings line or more castle dragons. But then again it is Smaug, probably one of the most famous dragons today. He certainly deserves some special love if he is going to look awesome.

Sounds like the second hobbit set was missing, which might be why Huw thinks there are only three. Plus all the info is based on the memory of those who perused the whole lego gauntlet.

A D2C would be great of an exterior of Erebor. Another possibility would be a larger Bo5A set if we see nothing in the largest set in connection with the battle. And that is only assuming TLG is putting much weight behind the actual battle. They may just be giving us outliners letting us come up with the battle ourselves. If there is a D2C set I would much prefer a TLoR set for,many very obvious reasons.

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Still my question holds.... why would they make a new mold for something as obscure as 4 Hobbit Sets.... I mean such mold would be hardly reusable... sure you can argue about Wampa Cave beast mold but that was SW and we all know what SW is/was back then :D

Lego will! and i see Smaug in a LOT of other sets being reused

Maybe Lego wants to change dragon mold and now go on with Smaug mold in furter Castle sets?

And there are more movies coming with dragons? they can reuse it IF they make sets from it

And the wings will be used with a Fellbeast if made

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For movie accuracy.... Look at helm's Deep and Weathertop... hardly MOVIE ACCURATE in size and doing justice? barely :) Castle Dragon would do as much justice to Smaug as a 130$ minas Tirith would do justice to the movie one :P

Well to be honest.... many LEGO products/sets their counterparts on screen do little justice.....

They could indeed..... But it seems they are just closing down Hobbit... so I wonder if LEGO would bother that much.... I can see different wings on a mold thats for sure...

Its not about size but a final look. Helms deep set is really good recreation of the Rohan fortress from the movie, and its size is limited due to the amount of pieces and price point. Silouete is almost the same (accept the rocks etc) So Smaug should be definitelly like that.. Smaller but with accurate look as much as its possible. (wings/hands, and especially his head)

Another Lake Town set sounds nice, the first one was pretty good.

But very dissapointed to hear that we won't be getting any LOTR sets, with the LOTR theme having been the source of some of the best sets from LEGO in the last couple of years in my opinion.

Oh well, with no Castle sets either it looks like 2014 might be an affordable LEGO year for me at least.

nevermind LOTR, I will be pleased from the new Hobbit sets, and if its true and we will get another part of Laketown I will be happy forever after. Hope that the set will depict Town hall with the crossbow tower. And also we wil get glorified Galadriel fig, twilight Witch King/nazgul, and Elrond possibly in red armour, so it will be cheap way to create armoured elven knights (of course without helmet but anyway, better than nothing) And yes, there will be Erbeor (or part of it) but -i am afraid that it will be the secret dor part with the statue of the Dwarf, not the main gates..well we will see :)

As for LOTR, there is stil chance, not this year but maybe another...wait for the last page of instrucions sheets :)

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All these sets sound great. Are people not allowed to take pictures at the toy fairs?

Not at London, but in Germany they are.

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Not at London, but in Germany they are.

Last year i think the lotr sets were not allowed to be photographed.

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Last year i think the lotr sets were not allowed to be photographed.

Can't remember but usually you can take picture there.

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Can't remember but usually you can take picture there.

we didn't get pictures uintill new york toy fair. It was certian lego themes they werent allowed photographing.

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It would be incredibly silly for Lego NOT to give us an army builder if it's a set based on the Battle of Five Armies.

It wouldn't be silly. Just because the event has the word "armies" in it, doesn't mean LEGO will automatically make a certain "type" of set to go with it. The term "Army-Builder Set" isn't even an official LEGO thing, it's just us LEGO fans coming along, pointing out similarities between 9471 Uruk-hai Army and 79012 Mirkwood Elf Army and saying that there is a pattern, because the sets have the same ratio of minifigs, and the same naming convention.

Not to say I don't think there IS a pattern - I do, the sets were obviously made to be bought in multiples (that's why they connect together). What I'm instead saying is that it can be flexible; the set based on the Bo5A does not necessarily have to follow these same "rules".

People shouldn't assume it will be restricted by the same constraints which appear in the two aforementioned sets, and as a result dismiss the idea of getting more than one unique, named character, simply because those two sets only had one. THAT would be incredibly silly. All I was saying is that the set does not have to follow any pre-established rules, simply because it depicts the Battle of the Five Armies. :laugh:

Personally I think it will be a mix - a few unique characters, but a few generic as well. So therefore not a traditional "army-builder", but still functional as one.

Anyway, as for the Smaug mould - I am very confident they will make one. As everyone is already pointing out, they do heaps of one-off moulds; most of the time it is for specialised parts, and they seem to be fine with it. The idea that they don't like creating moulds that they can't re-use is probably more true for the less-specialised elements, i.e. things that aren't monsters/aliens/character-specific parts from licences. In the latter cases, staying faithful to the source material seems to trump the mould issue. They could have easily just given all the dwarves the same old wizard beard in different colours, but they didn't. And most of those moulds have not been used again (although we will probably see more dwarves in the Erebor set). :classic:

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Did you see Beorn in bear form?

I guess not as no one has mentioned it but I wanted one too.

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I guess not as no one has mentioned it but I wanted one too.

I guess the 3 sets on display wouldnt fit him anyways though?

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Apparently Beorn will play a major role in TABA, so depending where he is would determine what set he might appear in.

http://uk.movies.yah...-103000776.html

And with PJ driving the bus it's anyone's guess.

Well lego already covered Beorn. possibly they even covered him from the TABA events he partakes in. Not the bear version sure. but he's covered overal.

Thranduil aswell plays a fairly major part in taba, but lego covered him in dos lego sets so we propably wont see him again this year.

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So judging from the mish-mash of info we're getting from the London fair, I think I've been able to discern some stuff.

Smallest set - Elrond, Galadriel and Angmar fighting at Dol Guldur. Makes sense, and sounds epic.

Esgaroth - includes the Master's tower with the Windlance, likely with another small building or two. Bain is likely there, along with Alfrid and probably some Lake-men (perhaps even Braga). This will have Smaug. It just makes sense.

Erebor - the sand green makes sense because that's the colour of the stone around the gate. My guess is the set will have the gate with a statue or two, some rock around it like the frame of a painting, with an interior with a variety of rooms and details. This will likely include Thorin, Bilbo, hopefully Bolg, and likely Beorn in bear form if we get him. He'll be a new mold (the current bear, while the size could work, looks nothing like Beorn.)

That leaves the fourth set which we know about from the retailers catalogue. This will likely be an army builder including Dain and other basic warriors to fill out ranks. Either this set is based around Dale or the slopes of Erebor.

The reason that people may be so confused as to how many sets we are getting and what goes where is that the display was likely just confusing. The army builder could very well be placed very close to Erebor and looked like part of the set. As for Smaug, if he was represented by a Castle dragon and just placed willy-nilly in the display, then that explains why people may have thought he'd be included with Erebor.

These are just my thoughts based on what we've heard, but I feel like my guesses make sense. We'll have a lot more confirmation come the Nuremberg fair, but basic logic can easily discern the info we have right now.

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