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On the issue of Kaliphlin; the Desert King controls the major trade hubs, but the outlying regions are mostly left to themselves. They pay taxes, and some contribute soldiers for military needs, but the Desert King doesn't have the military might to enforce societal control over the diverse populations.

The Nestlands Clans were able to beat back the Ulandus invasion of their region themselves, with some help from Shadowmere, and the Desert King's forces just chased the invaders' forces about the area. When the Desert King took the major Kaliphlin seats of power, the Nestlands Clans just got on with life.

The Mountain Mummies of the region were able to resist the Desert King's magical control, and stayed out of the fight. They recognize him as ruler, but refuse to call him Pharaoh, because he is an undead thing, not the Living Horus. The Nestlands Clans did the same to honor their allies.

The Nestlands Clans supported Shadowmere in its resistance to Raavage, and maintain an embassy at the edge of the Moruth swamplands near the Claw Breakers' lands. It's even on the Nocturnus map. The Nestlands Clans maintain a steady cross-border trade with most of the southern Rakath werewolves clans, and a mutual defense treaty with Shadowmere.

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So then Kali is sort of barely more unified than Nocturnus, but the Desert King is at least nominally the leader, or at least represents Kali interests to the Queen?

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11 hours ago, mccoyed said:

I had this idea that Nocturnus is still war-torn with pockets of fierce fighting as different factions try to get up on each other. Rather than being a unified Guild like the others, recent events have left Nocturnus fractured into a bunch of small principalities, fiefs, and strongholds where no one knows who they can trust anymore.

Nocturnus has always been a hostile place, filled with danger around every corner: beasts, bands of thieves, rogues, and the hostile terrain itself. Our territories of control have never extended much further than the settlements themselves. So it's mostly Nocty business as usual. :shrug_oh_well: 

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5 hours ago, mccoyed said:

So then Kali is sort of barely more unified than Nocturnus, but the Desert King is at least nominally the leader, or at least represents Kali interests to the Queen?

It would be totally out of character for the Desert King  to be subservient to Cedrica. He has always claimed he is the rightful ruler of the Guilds and it was mostly Nocturnus support that put him in power in Kaliphlin. His claim to the throne dates centuries ago so depending on perspective could legally supersede the Queen.

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7 hours ago, Mike S said:

It would be totally out of character for the Desert King  to be subservient to Cedrica. He has always claimed he is the rightful ruler of the Guilds and it was mostly Nocturnus support that put him in power in Kaliphlin. His claim to the throne dates centuries ago so depending on perspective could legally supersede the Queen.

Indeed. I'm not sure, but I'd say that only Mitgardia and Avalonia (and of course Cedrica, but that's not a guild) are completely under the Queen's reign. Kaliphlin is torn, with the DK not acknowledging the new ruler, while the various free cities and regions could be looking to her for protection or leadership (could, because every semi-independent town decides on its own now, if I understand the situation in the South correctly?). With the Hand defeated (or at least beaten), the Nocturnians recognise the new Queen as their suzerain, but the very nature of the Darklands just doesn't allow a really centralised authority. As for Varlyrio: noone knows what has happened to the fifth guild during the last Book, so...

Again, just my imagination running wild, what are your thoughts?

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1 hour ago, TitusV said:

Indeed. I'm not sure, but I'd say that only Mitgardia and Avalonia (and of course Cedrica, but that's not a guild) are completely under the Queen's reign. Kaliphlin is torn, with the DK not acknowledging the new ruler, while the various free cities and regions could be looking to her for protection or leadership (could, because every semi-independent town decides on its own now, if I understand the situation in the South correctly?). With the Hand defeated (or at least beaten), the Nocturnians recognise the new Queen as their suzerain, but the very nature of the Darklands just doesn't allow a really centralised authority. As for Varlyrio: noone knows what has happened to the fifth guild during the last Book, so...

Again, just my imagination running wild, what are your thoughts?

That is pretty much how I see the situation although didn’t Varlyrio support The Hand at one point? So highly  unlikely Varlyrio is in support of the Queen... unless of course she managed to gain support there before coming back to Cedrica.

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1 hour ago, Mike S said:

That is pretty much how I see the situation although didn’t Varlyrio support The Hand at one point? So highly  unlikely Varlyrio is in support of the Queen... unless of course she managed to gain support there before coming back to Cedrica.

It wasn't Varlyrio proper, but a portion of the guards' force (cannot remember what they were called) joined the Hand trying to secretly control Historica through Raavage. I think he turned on them midway through his offensive campaign.

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1 hour ago, gedren_y said:

It wasn't Varlyrio proper, but a portion of the guards' force (cannot remember what they were called) joined the Hand trying to secretly control Historica through Raavage. I think he turned on them midway through his offensive campaign.

Yes, I stated Varlyrio as a whole because it seemed to be Varlyrio sanctioned military instead of some random mercenaries who happened to be from Varlyrio. But you are right, I seem to remember something like a falling out between them and Raavage as well, hence probably why they have disappeared from the scene for the last while.

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It would be interesting if Varlyrio staged an invasion/colonization of Historica to take advantage of all the chaos and the disunity. I thought the Guilds were more unified than they are, so Book 3 is set to be more politically interesting and chaotic than I expected.

 

 

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I'm looking forward to joining up for Book III, and will be joining Nocturnus (if it stays an option).

If it is not an option, it doesn't really matter which guild I join, as most of my characters and builds will be in Nocturnus.

So this post is just my pledge of support in the campaign for a Nocturnian option.

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The irony is that Nocturnus is the most active guild thread right now. Doesn't seem like too many Mitgardians, Avalonians, or Kaliphlinites have come out of the woodwork since the announcement of Book 3. Or maybe they're hiding and biding their time. Or I'm trying to drum up some Nocturnus activity so the staff don't close the guild!

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I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about, it’s not like Nocturnus is being thrown into the abyss and removed GoH history never to come back. As already stated many times, you can still continue to build your story in Nocturnus. 

I think the lack of discussion in the other guild threads is because nothing is going to change there, people are just waiting for book III now.

 

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Dr Rod was one of the first characters in Nocturnus (2011) and possibly the longest serving member of Nocturnus here anymore?.. but he doesn't do much these days :)

I'll always keep doing the odd build in Nocturnus and some day Dr Rod's castle will get built.. Until then he's just hanging out in the Northern Rakath Mountains around Rod's Peaks tinkering in his chem lab ;)

Dr Rod

 

 

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6 hours ago, ZlatanXVIGustaf said:

I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about, it’s not like Nocturnus is being thrown into the abyss and removed GoH history never to come back. As already stated many times, you can still continue to build your story in Nocturnus. 

I think the lack of discussion in the other guild threads is because nothing is going to change there, people are just waiting for book III now.

 

There's no fuss in the way you mean. Just trying to throw some shade, be silly, and get some energy and activity built up. If you look around, GoH is still incredibly quiet and in the past there has been a lot of chatter around new events. I don't see that this time and it does kinda worry me. You're probably right that people are just in hibernation waiting for Book 3 but in the meantime, getting some juice flowing in the Guild threads can't hurt.

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