Lego Superheroes 2013 Rumours & Discussion

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

X-Men, Fantastic Four, Punisher, Daredevil, Black Panther, Moon Knight.

And spare me the kid friendly stuff. Lego made Bane and Joker.

Black Panther is a side character as far as I know and I have no idea who Moon Knight is. This comes from someone who is trying to get into the "mythology" of the comics. If I don´t know these characters, why would children want to have sets with them?

Punisher and Daredevil? Daredevil isn´t really a character children know but he could work in conjunction with other heroes. But Punisher? He outright kills people. There is a difference between a villain killing everyone and a hero killing everyone. I doubt something like his appearance in 90s Spider-Man will be repeated anytime in the future.

Also I feel like you ignored the point I was making about there being so little sets on the shelves with or without the comic continuity characters. Eight characters/teams for five or six sets? LEGO can´t just make every set a battlepack.

Both Joker figures drew their design straight from the comics and were based on such appearance. Do I need to list all the things the Joker did in the comics? Or just keep it simple with theft, torture, terrorism, and murder?

Jokers design was used often in many different works. You could also say he draws from the DCAU shows which are acceptable. It´s like saying LEGOs Batman draws from "The Dark Knight returns" and demanding grey suit Joker.

Also I have thought of something dealing with the Malibu Mansion set!

I'm starting to think the suitcase might not be the Mk 5. In the extremis comics the suit Iron Man wears is also able to be folded up into a suit case. So there might be a possibility that it could be the suitcase for the Mk 42, or it could just be the Mk 5 and this was just me thinking too much into it.

The suitcase is red and silver, I would think if the MK42 has a suitcase it would have at least a bit of gold sticking out.

I was also thinking though and when the set list was first released wasn't there a "Marvel 4" set? I don't know if it was ever explained or not but it sort of gives me hope on one more Iron Man 3 set coming out. Especially after seeing the trailer we can definitely use another set with some more suits!

I saw it on a german shopping site and according to the Barcode/EAN number it is Malibu Mansion and has the same/fitting price (40€). I also ordered it just in case and will receive it on 2nd April.

Okay, I saw this dispute recently in this thread, but I'm putting it out there, as all the cards lead up to it: I REALLY think we are going to get one Thor 2 (TDW) set before the movie comes out (October 2013, or maybe September 2013, judging by all of these early set releases for movies this year). Here's why:

- This mural (I've explained it a billion times)

- One set will make DC and Marvel have the same amount of sets for the year (I know some of you disputed this, but just keep this is mind)

- For those doubting LEGO will touch on Thor 2, why wouldn't LEGO make a set( based off a (most likely) major blockbuster movie that they have the license for?

- For those doubting an October/November 2013 release for the set, and rather thinking it will have a December 2013/January 2014 release, why would LEGO do that? It would just be a move to lose money. Putting it one or two months AFTER the movie comes out is just a dumb move.

• And, for those who bring up TDKR set in this situation, keep in mind that TDKR was released in July 2012, and the set came out nearly six months after. If LEGO put out a Thor 2 set in January 2014, it would most likely be released early in December 2013, a month after Thor 2's release, which is a dumb move (like I previously mentioned).

- For those thinking Thor 2 will get more than one set, I doubt it. It seems like there really isn't much going for the movie for the kids. And, whoever said one set for a movie is a bad thing (like TDKR set)? The decision fits perfectly, especially due to the equal amount of sets for DC and Marvel theory.

Just my two cents.

For point 2: If the missing Marvel set will be a S@H exclusive to match Arkham Asylums price point it could also be that we will get the S@H marvel set in 2014 and have a DC set less next year.

For point 4: If it is a S@H exclusive (which is most likely looking at Arkham and its 150 price point) it could be released at any time without its release being out of the ordinary. Also the TDKR set would seem a little out of place as an "All-Stores set" being released outside of a wave of other sets and pulling the release of the January wave to last year would have given us a measly six to eight sets for the entire Superheroes 2013 line.

For point 5: No idea what´s going on in the story that could be too dark for kids (Iron man having post traumatic stress disorder from "Avengers" sounds a little too much already) but an Arkham Asylum / Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix set at a 150 price-point that is higher than the entire Iron Man 3 line should be enough for at least all the important characters. If there is something missing it shouldn´t be impossible to backtrack in January/December with a follow up set like 2003 the AT-TE and Geonosian Starfighter of Star Wars epsiode 2.

I don't get TLG's logic on this, unless there are legal ramifications I don't know about. Super heros have been selling as toys for many, many years. They are loved by kids and adults. Why doesn't lego put out sets with just minifigs? Why do they think they will sell better if based on a specific movie or cartoon, instead of the original source material? Why couldn't TLG make a 'classics' line, based on Silver Age-80s looks?

I am probably missing something, but the super hero franchises are proven money makers...often by selling just the figures. Please edu-ma-cate me?

And yeah, Dustbin...that would be very cool.

The Star Wars license specifically prohibits figure-only sets as they sold the figure license to Hasbro. Still there were four figure-only sets in 2001 and promo-figs are allowed. There is probably a similar issue with the superheroes.

Still, nothing keeps them from doing only battlepacks with a useless pile of bricks and four characters. But I would guess they still have to get permissions for individual sets from the firms.

Also you have to keep in mind that LEGO can´t put out an infinite number of new sets, they still need machines to produce the bricks. If they can only put out a total of twelve superheroes sets they prioritize the sets based on popular movies and shows over the general stuff of course.

Edited March 6, 2013 by Navy Trooper Fenson

[Drock]

I made my own Manbat ,MF brown bat with blue legs,I wasn't waiting around for Lego!

Nice. Try the MF werewolf's (ripped pants) legs to go with it http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=970c00pb158

[iamste]

Black Panther is a side character as far as I know and I have no idea who Moon Knight is. This comes from someone who is trying to get into the "mythology" of the comics. If I don´t know these characters, why would children want to have sets with them?

Punisher and Daredevil? Daredevil isn´t really a character children know but he could work in conjunction with other heroes. But Punisher? He outright kills people. There is a difference between a villain killing everyone and a hero killing everyone. I doubt something like his appearance in 90s Spider-Man will be repeated anytime in the future.

The way the marvel movie-verse is going, you can certainly expect Black Panther to show up soon. He's a major player, has been an avenger, leader of the fantastic 4, and his country is the only place Vibranium (the metal used to create Captain America's shield) can be found and mind. He might not be at the fore-front of the comic book MU, but he is a major player, nonetheless.

I'm looking forward to a possible Ant-Man set. Surprised no one here's mentioned that.

[Spider-Man]

I'm looking forward to a possible Ant-Man set. Surprised no one here's mentioned that.

Ant-Man and Dr. Strange are in phase 3 of Marvel so its' still a little ways away to begin speculation on those kinds of sets

Edit: Just noticed that was your first post! Welcome to Eurobricks!

The suitcase is red and silver, I would think if the MK42 has a suitcase it would have at least a bit of gold sticking out.

Ya I'm a diagnosed suffer of color deficiency (not totally color blind) so I sometimes miss stuff like that I was also just brainstorming and thought maybe it was paying homage to the comics but I'm done with that silly thinking and back on board the Mk 5 team

Edited March 6, 2013 by Spider-Man

[Repeter]

Black Panther is a side character as far as I know and I have no idea who Moon Knight is. This comes from someone who is trying to get into the "mythology" of the comics. If I don´t know these characters, why would children want to have sets with them?

Punisher and Daredevil? Daredevil isn´t really a character children know but he could work in conjunction with other heroes. But Punisher? He outright kills people. There is a difference between a villain killing everyone and a hero killing everyone. I doubt something like his appearance in 90s Spider-Man will be repeated anytime in the future.

Thanks for getting to my questions about licensing--you are probably correct about strictness on the licensing.

As to your statement above, I have to disagree. Many children enjoy comics and are quite up-to-date with the canon. In the 80s, I knew my comics by the time I was 9yo. At work these days, I photo for a fashion studio. Whenever we have kid's shoots, I totally discuss super heros and sci-fi with the 8-12 yo kids--they know their stuff. I hope you enjoy getting into the mythology of it all, btw--worthy of a doctoral thesis, imo.

In the end, it just seems TLG is afraid to make a move. DC and Marvel have shown they are willing to license out to anyone, so I doubt they are tying the hands on any deal. There may be other contracts to consider, but there are plenty of characters I would bet don't fall under that category.

Also, why doesn't TLG look to cater to AFOLs? They seem to with SW and that stuff sells. Why wouldn't they want to tap into the market further?

Last point: Black Panther is a major player...so is Daredevil. I agree about the Punisher (even his name gives kids a bad lesson, imo), but there are many characters who might seem second tier to those who aren't in the know, but are, in fact, major players. TLG group should hire one of us nerds (sorry if 'nerd' offends...it's a badge I wear with honor) to let them know what's up.

[305Bats]

I've wondered why they don't put out blind-bagged superheroes like the CMFs. They'd fly off the shelves!

[iamste]

Ant-Man and Dr. Strange are in phase 3 of Marvel so its' still a little ways away to begin speculation on those kinds of sets

Edit: Just noticed that was your first post! Welcome to Eurobricks!

Thanks buddy!

Oh yeah, I'm not speculating :) just hoping we get something cool! Would like a brick built Ant and Ant-Man mini fig or something, haha.

(Now you got me speculating)

[Sam892]

As to your statement above, I have to disagree. Many children enjoy comics and are quite up-to-date with the canon. In the 80s, I knew my comics by the time I was 9yo. At work these days, I photo for a fashion studio. Whenever we have kid's shoots, I totally discuss super heros and sci-fi with the 8-12 yo kids--they know their stuff. I hope you enjoy getting into the mythology of it all, btw--worthy of a doctoral thesis, imo.

In the end, it just seems TLG is afraid to make a move. DC and Marvel have shown they are willing to license out to anyone, so I doubt they are tying the hands on any deal. There may be other contracts to consider, but there are plenty of characters I would bet don't fall under that category.

Also, why doesn't TLG look to cater to AFOLs? They seem to with SW and that stuff sells. Why wouldn't they want to tap into the market further?

Last point: Black Panther is a major player...so is Daredevil. I agree about the Punisher (even his name gives kids a bad lesson, imo), but there are many characters who might seem second tier to those who aren't in the know, but are, in fact, major players. TLG group should hire one of us nerds (sorry if 'nerd' offends...it's a badge I wear with honor) to let them know what's up.

Comics are enjoyed by people of all ages its true, but the business isn't like it used to be. The majority of comic readers now a days are teenagers and adults. As a result of this Comics are a lot Darker than they were 20 years ago. Look at Batman, Daredevil, Uncanny X-force and even Superior Spider-man. While there are still comics aimed at Kids today, they are mostly more adult themed.

Also its no secret that the comic industry is losing sales. Last year Marvel Now and the New 52 boosted sales but, its still not as safe an industry as it once was. Another problem is where to buy Comics. In the UK super markets don't sell comic books and, the only place to purchase them is in a specialist store or the Internet.

The TV and Movie side of the industry however is the opposite. Superhero films are more common than ever. On top of that they get such a wider release to the public. I'm guessing that more kids saw the Avengers film than read the current comic. As such it makes sense to base stuff around films and TV shows that have a larger child audience.

On terms of Characters I agree that Daredevil and others are key members in the Marvel universe. But it's a large risk to invest money in a set which contains characters who, are not getting as much exposure as other characters. That's why the Ultimate Spider-man TV is great for LEGO. Spidey is constantly teaming up with other heroes and villains. At the moment that's are best way of getting certain characters, just look at DR Doom and Beetle. So hopefully Spidey will team up with Daredevil, the Fantastic Four and others, as LEGO will most likely loosely base sets around it.

The one problem the Superhero theme has is certain powers don't translate. Mr Fantastic is a prime example, how do LEGO create a Minifig that can stretch? Or Giant man? How does lego create a larger figure that connects to bricks, and maintains the appearance of a Minifigure? While I'm sure we will get these characters, they will be a huge challenge for LEGO to create. After all what's point of having a Superhero or villain if they can't be played with in accordance with there powers.

[8BrickMario]

I made my own Manbat ,MF brown bat with blue legs,I wasn't waiting around for Lego!

If you have the CMF Werewolf, those pants would look even better! I know it's easy to make Man-Bat, but the point is that I (and maybe others) want an official Man-Bat! They've got the parts, and maybe they could modify the hair piece on the MF Bats to make the ears pointier.

Edited March 7, 2013 by 8BrickMario

[CM4Sci]

I've wondered why they don't put out blind-bagged superheroes like the CMFs. They'd fly off the shelves!

Yeah, but then the sets wouldn't.

-Sci

[CBMM1]

The Iron Man 3 Sets are on LEGO Shop@Home now!

http://shop.lego.com/en-US/Marvel-Super-Heroes-ByTheme

[Jackattack7]

The Iron Man 3 Sets are on LEGO Shop@Home now!

http://shop.lego.com...-Heroes-ByTheme

Not for UK :(

[RaincloudDustbin]

Right here we go.LEGO don't own the action figure license so they can't release just the figures. Hasbro or whoever would sue them to death. I wish that LEGO actually gave a free comic with the set- and I'm talking a proper comic book perhaps including one of the chracters from the set. LEGO need to subtly slip in Daredevil into a set without him being the headline character but let's be frank. We are never going to see a LEGO Punisher with the exception of an exclusive.

EDIT: Someone mentioned that comics were hard to come by however I buy comics weekly from my local WH Smith and even ASDA.

Edited March 7, 2013 by RaincloudDustbin

[Marvelfan120]

anyone know if we have a fairly firm date for the sups sets? not that they're likely to fit into my LEGO budget after buying 8 daily bugles and with the huge number of sets that are coming in june...

also: sorry if this info was already posted, I looked but could not find anything that seemed firm... thanks

[Another Brick In The Wall]

Is Quinjet now discontinued? Most online retailers I shop at, don't have it anymore.

[hjmediastudios]

Is Quinjet now discontinued? Most online retailers I shop at, don't have it anymore.

Not that I know of. It's still in stock where I'm at; they even got new shipments of it on Monday.

[Masked Builder]

Is Quinjet now discontinued? Most online retailers I shop at, don't have it anymore.

Still in stock on S@H!

[iamste]

Liverpool UK lego store had the Malibu mansion and War Machine Iron Man 3 sets in today. Final battle is expected next week according to the guy I asked.

[Sam892]

Liverpool UK lego store had the Malibu mansion and War Machine Iron Man 3 sets in today. Final battle is expected next week according to the guy I asked.

Great news! Looks like I'm buying The Daily Bugle and the Malibu Mansion next week. I can feel my wallet getting lighter each day.

[Spider-Man]

Great news! Looks like I'm buying The Daily Bugle and the Malibu Mansion next week. I can feel my wallet getting lighter each day.

As to your previous question of who has it better when it comes to IM3, I would definitely say the victory goes to you guys across the pond You get the sets around the same time AND the movie earlier. Congratulations you win

[RaincloudDustbin]

Aww. I just spent the last bit of my budget on Dr Doom's jet and the Daily Bugle minifigs. Not that I didn't want them- just wish I had more cash.n:)

[iamste]

Yeah, Price was £19.99 for the boat, and £34.99 for the mansion.

Nearly picked up the mansion, but I only went in to buy two small sets for my sisters and some mini-figs, and to fill up the free box thing from Christmas.

So annoyed, got the cyclops! Been wanting him for a while, just opened the bugger up and the head flew off behind the desk, lost forever D:

[Sam892]

Yeah, Price was £19.99 for the boat, and £34.99 for the mansion.

Nearly picked up the mansion, but I only went in to buy two small sets for my sisters and some mini-figs, and to fill up the free box thing from Christmas.

So annoyed, got the cyclops! Been wanting him for a while, just opened the bugger up and the head flew off behind the desk, lost forever D:

I thought the Mansions price would be £39.99. Either way its an extra £5 off I can use on something else. This year I'm mainly buying my LEGO through LEGO. Mainly because the VIP system gives such great rewards. £5 off with every £100 spent is great. Hopefully if there is a Marvel S@H Exculsive next year ( Come on X-mansion!), I can get it for free with all those VIP points I'm collecting.

Also I agree Spider-man we get the better deal. Although you get to swing round the city shooting webs. So you win overall haha.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Sam892

[Clone OPatra]

Anybody else notice this part of the description of the Malibu Mansion Attack on LEGO.com?

Malibu Mansion section features exploding window function, rotating computer console and holographic screens, tools, armory with exploding floor function, and kitchen area with cupboards, blender with mandarins and assorted kitchen tools

I wonder if they're explicitly eating mandarins in the movie.

[Infernum]

Ha, ha! That's hilarious!