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Well, it depends on the price and In what condition the set is. Is it complete? Etc . I got mine for 150 wich I consider an amazing bargain, I paid total of 530 euros for CC, RBR and SES. All in like new condition. The thing that surprised me the most was how big it actually was! And it came whit 4 minifigs that looked like they were made today! So in this case, I feel like I hit the jackpot. Definitely worth buying IMO.

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The question where to buy pirate sets is still very important for LEGO fans. It becomes more difficult every year. But sometimes modern sets of other series have lots of pirates accessories which we can use. For example a big brick figure of Metal Beard from LEGO movie or Sky Shark from ninjago.

On 30.09.2016 at 2:01 AM, BrickHat said:

Nice! Do I spot a trains torso in one of those pirates? I guess the train industry didn't turn out to well for him. :tongue:

 

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I finally have a big enough LEGO budget to get in to pirates, but I'm faced with a dillema. I want to get both the skull's eye schooner and the black seas barracuda, but it'll be a couple of weeks after I buy one until I'm able to buy another. I'm a bit worried that if I buy one the other won't be available at a reasonable price when I'm able to order it. So if the worst case scenario turns true, what should I buy first? The skull's eye schooner or the black seas barracuda? Is one generally more valuable than the other? The bsb is $190 U.S. while the ses is $220, aparrently only missing the instructions and the lanterns in the back.

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On 8/9/2017 at 4:43 PM, Wirza said:

I finally have a big enough LEGO budget to get in to pirates, but I'm faced with a dillema. I want to get both the skull's eye schooner and the black seas barracuda, but it'll be a couple of weeks after I buy one until I'm able to buy another. I'm a bit worried that if I buy one the other won't be available at a reasonable price when I'm able to order it. So if the worst case scenario turns true, what should I buy first? The skull's eye schooner or the black seas barracuda? Is one generally more valuable than the other? The bsb is $190 U.S. while the ses is $220, aparrently only missing the instructions and the lanterns in the back.

While I'm not super hardcore about the official sets (I prefer to build mine from scratch) I would recommend grabbing the Skull's Eye Schooner first, since it was only released once while the Black Seas Barracuda got re-released at some point.

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Really the only pirates set I want is the Skull's Eye Schooner since its an amazing set. But I have never been able to find a good price for it. The cheapest I have seen was like 170$ CAD which was sold in like 5 min.

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It depends what you like. I would not givea cent to one of the most unrealistic and ugliest ships ever made what are the Skulls Eye Schooner and Red Beards Runner; along with the Crossbone Clipper topping the ugly scale of him realistic colour schemes and very ugly design elements I would never take a second and always would go for one of the most beautiful ships ever, the Black Seas Barracuda. That's my point and my opinion.

If you can grab more money the Big Imperial Flagship is the best one you can buy but also the most expensive one. 

I know a lo of lego fans like that SES so it depends on what you like. But don't worry you will always find both at eBay 

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Hello,
I don't know if I can ask here, if not I'm sorry for the trouble and will post somewhere else.

I have seen an offer selling everything in this picture for 200€. There is a full 6285 Black Seas Barracuda (probably without instructions), an incomplete one (he says 60%), few pieces from 6270 (+instructions), most of the minifigures from 6285 plus some others and some extra parts.
I have seen another 6285, full with instructions at 140€ (but it's really dusty). I am not sure the other parts in the first offer are really worth the extra 60€... Maybe will it be better if I get it for 20-30€ less ?

I am not in a hurry for buying, but if you tell me it's a good offer, why not jump on this one.

Thanks for the help

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14 minutes ago, CaptainMoore said:

I don't know if I can ask here, if not I'm sorry for the trouble and will post somewhere else.

You've come to the right place, although it's highly recommended to post photos in topics because (where applicable) because you're more likely to get noticed.

So is this lot worth 200€?

First compare the prices on Bricklink. Their price guide values one used Black Seas Barracuda at US $303.51 or 276.36€.

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Wow. 

About such orders I would have doubts about the trustworthiness. But to discuss this topic is not helpful. 

Like Mister Phes showed us. A price for such a vessel is quite high. You are very lucky if you really get this ship for that price, be it the 200€ or the 160€ version. When I want to buy such a set I always take a look at the Part Out Value of the set. So you have to imagine: What would I have to pay if I want to buy it together in single pieces? From the experience I can say that you pay 50% of a price for 90% of the pieces and the other 50% for the rest, which are very uncommon and very expensive and hard to get pieces. 

The current partout value of the 6285 Black Seas Barracuda is round about 300-350€ from sellers in Europe. 
Pieces like Boat Hull PieceBoat Mast Rigging (Especially the long one) or Sails but also masts and rare pieces needed in a high quantity stack up very quickly to the cost.

If you decide to buy from one or another. Take sure that the important pieces of the set are intact and present. Some unexpected pieces like this Female Head from the figurehead or the White Flag 6 x 4 with Skull and Crossbones also have a high price point if you scroll just a little bit down. It can go up to 10-20 Euros per piece. 

If we take a look on the image I can see at least four Mast rigging (3-7€ pp), two big jolly roger flags (7-20€ pp), several minifigs (3-5€ per minifig, up to 20€ on rare ones), two rope bridges (2-7€ for brown colour), four cannons (1-2€ pp+ price of cannon base) and two baseplates with isles (7-10€) laying on the table. Don't pin me down but if you want to buy all this single its about 50-80€ minimum! 

The second uncomplete ship on the right seems to be quite complete regarding the hull. A big cost factor will be the masts and the sails if you want to finish it. Good sails are expensive to get. What I can see that he replaced several bricks with the same one in other colors. The grey bricks under the railing at the front, deck plate in Dark Gray, where the steering wheels sits instead of light gray. Maybe to give it a more finished look but it's definitely less complete than it seems. (Attention this is nitpicking from my side, don't be to distracted from my words :wink:)

I don't know how far you life away but ask him if you can take a look and pay with cash. If he agrees it is not a rip-off.

 

Regarding the 160€ offer. The dust is not a problem. The bricks underneath are important.
When it comes to the decision if the instructions plays a role in the buying process. I would rather choose the offer without the instruction because in this case the bricks would be much more worth for me than a paper booklet. If you are planning to get a complete collector series from all pirate sets of this series together (with instructions and boxes and all pieces in their original mold and color) (what I doubt) I would rather go for the 160€ ship with instructions because then a second ship would not help you. 

 

To break this text of wall :hmpf::wacko: and to sum it up:

The 200€ offer is definitely worth the money. In every aspect. 

The 160€ offer comes in play when you definitely want a instruction booklet. But these can be bought extra for a "relative" **low** price.

 

I hope these infos does help you more than they confuse. :grin::pir_wacko:

Best greetings!

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4 hours ago, Mister Phes said:

You've come to the right place, although it's highly recommended to post photos in topics because (where applicable) because you're more likely to get noticed.

So is this lot worth 200€?

First compare the prices on Bricklink. Their price guide values one used Black Seas Barracuda at US $303.51 or 276.36€.

 

1 hour ago, Robin_IV said:

Wow. 

About such orders I would have doubts about the trustworthiness. But to discuss this topic is not helpful. 

Like Mister Phes showed us. A price for such a vessel is quite high. You are very lucky if you really get this ship for that price, be it the 200€ or the 160€ version. When I want to buy such a set I always take a look at the Part Out Value of the set. So you have to imagine: What would I have to pay if I want to buy it together in single pieces? From the experience I can say that you pay 50% of a price for 90% of the pieces and the other 50% for the rest, which are very uncommon and very expensive and hard to get pieces. 

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I hope these infos does help you more than they confuse. :grin::pir_wacko:

Best greetings!

Thank you both for your help! @Robin_IV you seem to have a really good knowledge of which part is expensive, thank you for taking so much time to write.

Bricklink is indeed really useful. As you imagined, I don't think of being a die hard collector. Keeping boxes is not my think, I don't even have the space for that :grin:. Sadly I don't live close to any seller of lego ships, so I will have to rely on ebay insurance or such things.

It seems the offers are good, especially the biggest one. I am still hesitating because it represents a lot of money and I wasn't expecting those kind of prices for old sets.

You have helped me well, now I have to decide what I do :wacko:. Thanks a lot!

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Tell me where is seller from and where did you find that offer, i won't hesitate :)

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On 2/7/2020 at 8:39 AM, chofus said:

Tell me where is seller from and where did you find that offer, i won't hesitate :)

It was on leboncoin, it's kind of a french Craiglist and mostly for selling hand to hand.

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I ask you for help ....

I'm always looking for lots to increase my "library" of pieces and minifigures.

Does this seem like a good deal for 50 euros?

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1 hour ago, peppe1983 said:

Does this seem like a good deal for 50 euros?

If you collect all those 90s stuff it might. But honestly at first glance I think you may find better deals out there. You can sell them as parts separately, even for twice the price, I'm sure of it. Only it's gonna be a long and big hassle.

The sail piece worth the most, ~15 EUR just on its own.

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