Heroica RPG General Discussion

[Khorne]

On 10/30/2018 at 8:53 PM, Lord Duvors said:

Nice to see you! Sorry about you not being able to participate though. What happened with Fort Bonaparte was that the Heroes had gotten the rebel sailors inside the fort to stop fighting and surrender, however a Bonaparte fleet was on the way to recapture the fort and our attempt's to make them stand down didn't work. As most of the people currently active and making decisions didn't like the idea of the Bonapartes regaining the fort due to their abuses of power the heroes elected to evacuate the fort and then blow it sky high.

Thanks for the summary!  Throlar has come a long way from raging beardless Dwarf to a somewhat sane voice of reason . Of course, there's no one there pushing his buttons .

21 hours ago, Flipz said:

Eh, their core concept -- corrupt militaristic navy with a stranglehold over competition and innovation with a bunch of elitist classism for extra flavor -- didn't exactly leave room for a lot of favorable portrayals.  It seemed like Sandy was going to transition their arc to a "rooting out corruption" arc once... I want to say Reno? ... got over his dismay with his brother's death, but then instead they reversed course and doubled down with the cartoonishly villainous Blackgull and his wife, which basically ended any hope of the faction changing to become sympathetic.

The Bonapartes have always been one of the few Houses I personally have read as unambiguously evil, alongside the Guild of Invision once certain details emerged about their business practices, but unlike the Guild the Bonapartes didn't exactly have a cast of friendly and sympathetic NPCs attached to them, so that also doesn't help matters for them.

I never really saw the Bonapartes as more evil than the other Houses or even the most evil. Like WBD said in his reply. All Houses are kind of grey overall with some good and some bad accents. I always RP'ed as if I did find them to be despicable, but that's mostly Eric's POV and experience. OOC, I didn't really find 100% Sauron levels of evil. Not more than any of the other big players.

21 hours ago, Waterbrick Down said:

I'd argue that most of the houses had villainous aspects to them, Ziegfried's deals with demons, The Guild's monopolistic and morally gray experimenting tendencies, Hinckwell traditionalism and ignorance, Shadeaux under the table business dealing and war profiteering, Ji Pei foreign interests combined with reckless technology, and the Bonaparte's militaristic complex. The difference lay in some QM's running quests that humanized them and gave them admirable qualities. I'm sure a quest could have been run about the Bonapartes part in quelling northern invasions and or dealings with Leviathan that would have cast their penchant for disciplined combat and strategy in a good light. Beyond that I'm sure we read into the houses what we wished, partially due to each of our own character's backgrounds along with our own personal bents. 

Quelling nothern invasions does not make you the good guy! Nord lives matter! 

[Zepher]

1 hour ago, Lind Whisperer said:

Back-up DMs would need to be in place, in case any of the DMs had an unexplained absence, and then never came back from it.

The overarching story would also have to be written down somewhere, where the Back-up DMs - or the main, overseeing DM - could access it if such a disappearance were to happen.

That’s a rather rigid approach to story. If a DM disappeared someone else could pick up the story and take it in whatever direction made sense to them. That’s how the best TV shows work when they change show runners.

As for the Bonapartes, I think WBD is exactly correct. I actually liked Blackgull too. Authority isn’t inherently bad (that coming from a liberal/socialist) (and it’s important to recall that Heroica takes place in a different era than our own). It’s funny the house that seems least evil to you is the one you claimed as your own, Flipz.  Def supports WBD’s suggestion that we read into the houses what we wanted.

[CMP]

They would've played a big part in the Vartland Saga, from what I recall.

[Duvors]

7 hours ago, Khorne said:

Thanks for the summary!  Throlar has come a long way from raging beardless Dwarf to a somewhat sane voice of reason . Of course, there's no one there pushing his buttons .

Well thats character development for you, and out-of-character development as well. I'm a much different (and hopefully better) person now then I was when I started paying this game of ours. Still, I'll miss you and Eric when this is all over. 

[samurai-turtle]

On 10/30/2018 at 3:43 PM, Khorne said:

Time for Eric to close the Heroica door and get back the Merry Mermaid, I guess. Or North. Who knows what the future brings.

Their seems like time if you want to wrap it up (Eric's Story). 

On 11/6/2018 at 11:03 AM, Zepher said:

I would also not have "rivalries" but instead immediately implement perks for siding with a particular faction, like we tried with the Sungold and Crescent crests. I think that would work well. You could only wear an allegiance to a particular faction one at a time, but could do quests for other factions without losing rep with your favorite faction.

Why does their even need to be a "us verses them" crap? When other games do similar crap, I wonder why!? It seemed to be forced and dumb. But, if it just happened subtilty I might be fine with it. Personally, I am tired of seeing the "us verses them" crap in the government. And I hope everyone else is tired of same crap too. 

[UsernameMDM]

Now I wish I would have had Hoke stay around to be nominated as a Veteran.  

[The Legonater]

2 hours ago, UsernameMDM said:

Now I wish I would have had Hoke stay around to be nominated as a Veteran.  

The giant dragon suddenly circles back, landing at the doorway of Heroica. Hoke dismounts.

"Now that I think about it..."

Edited November 8, 2018 by The Legonater

[UsernameMDM]

8 minutes ago, The Legonater said:

The giant dragon suddenly circles back, landing at the doorway of Heroica. Hoke dismounts.

"Now that I think about it..."

 

Y'all could always just send him a z-mail.  No one seems to have noticed he left aside from Lind.

[Palathadric]

  Hoke is definitely among the first choices.

[Flipz]

I.  Hate.  The new editor. >_<

[Duvors]

Sorry for not saying anything for the past couple of days, I'll have something soon.

[Lind Whisperer]

4 hours ago, Lord Duvors said:

Sorry for not saying anything for the past couple of days, I'll have something soon.

Nearly everyone's gone silent. One of the reasons why I'm doubting a "Heroica 2.0" would work - nearly everyone here seems burned out on RPing, and the rest of Eurobricks is slowly dying - not enough people to re-vitalize a second game.

[Alfadas]

43 minutes ago, Lind Whisperer said:

Nearly everyone's gone silent. One of the reasons why I'm doubting a "Heroica 2.0" would work - nearly everyone here seems burned out on RPing, and the rest of Eurobricks is slowly dying - not enough people to re-vitalize a second game.

well, since my character is kinda deadish (for all intents and purposes he is dead, in another realm), I can't really role play anymore. 

[MysticModulus]

1 hour ago, Lind Whisperer said:

Nearly everyone's gone silent. One of the reasons why I'm doubting a "Heroica 2.0" would work - nearly everyone here seems burned out on RPing, and the rest of Eurobricks is slowly dying - not enough people to re-vitalize a second game.

Well to be fair, a handful of old players has been the driving force in this final part of the quest and it seems most people think that nothing more needs to be said in this context. I for once find all this discussions of the future veterans etc. to be irrelevant for Ezeran. It's a good point to put an end to it. I wouldn't say there isn't enough players to start a Heroica 2.0, the challenge is probably to find some QM's who wants to continue. 

[KotZ]

1 hour ago, MysticModulus said:

Well to be fair, a handful of old players has been the driving force in this final part of the quest and it seems most people think that nothing more needs to be said in this context. I for once find all this discussions of the future veterans etc. to be irrelevant for Ezeran. It's a good point to put an end to it. I wouldn't say there isn't enough players to start a Heroica 2.0, the challenge is probably to find some QM's who wants to continue. 

I'd gladly take part in a Heroica 2.0, but I think we all need a bit of a break.  That being said, the Historica, BoBS, etc, are great ways to build and RP.

[Palathadric]

3 hours ago, Alfadas said:

well, since my character is kinda deadish (for all intents and purposes he is dead, in another realm), I can't really role play anymore. 

  

[samurai-turtle]

4 hours ago, Lind Whisperer said:

Nearly everyone's gone silent. One of the reasons why I'm doubting a "Heroica 2.0" would work - nearly everyone here seems burned out on RPing, and the rest of Eurobricks is slowly dying - not enough people to re-vitalize a second game.

I been keeping an eye on things...

3 hours ago, Alfadas said:

well, since my character is kinda deadish (for all intents and purposes he is dead, in another realm), I can't really role play anymore. 

I am in a similar boat. Germ is not at the "Hall" (that is where the last bit happening?) And he is not planning to ever come back... 

3 hours ago, MysticModulus said:

Well to be fair, a handful of old players has been the driving force in this final part of the quest and it seems most people think that nothing more needs to be said in this context. I for once find all this discussions of the future veterans etc. to be irrelevant for Ezeran. It's a good point to put an end to it. I wouldn't say there isn't enough players to start a Heroica 2.0, the challenge is probably to find some QM's who wants to continue. 

Yeah, this political crap bores me in general and I don't like it. Plus, I think we need to fine some new "Dungeon Masters" to help keep the game going in the future. 

1 hour ago, KotZ said:

I'd gladly take part in a Heroica 2.0, but I think we all need a bit of a break.  That being said, the Historica, BoBS, etc, are great ways to build and RP.

I was wondering if putting the game on another site might be a good idea, or is their just not enough people interested for that idea in general. 

[Kintobor]

6 hours ago, Lind Whisperer said:

Nearly everyone's gone silent. One of the reasons why I'm doubting a "Heroica 2.0" would work - nearly everyone here seems burned out on RPing, and the rest of Eurobricks is slowly dying - not enough people to re-vitalize a second game.

4 hours ago, MysticModulus said:

Well to be fair, a handful of old players has been the driving force in this final part of the quest and it seems most people think that nothing more needs to be said in this context. I for once find all this discussions of the future veterans etc. to be irrelevant for Ezeran. It's a good point to put an end to it.

Pretty much what Mystic said. Karie's said her peace and has put forth the notion that she's ready to lock the hall doors for the day and come back tomorrow. She's got no real interest in arguing over politics or badgering about who should or shouldn't be a veteran: she wants to get home and make sure her family's safe but feels obliged to stay in the hall just to make sure nothing breaks out. 

I'll have more to say on Heroica v2.0 once everything has been said and done in 159, as well as my thoughts on the game in general. 

As for the "Eurobricks is dying", I doubt that's the issue. BotBS and Historica are seemingly still doing fine. People got burnt out: I got burnt out.

5 hours ago, Alfadas said:

well, since my character is kinda deadish (for all intents and purposes he is dead, in another realm), I can't really role play anymore. 

Well, Byblos is still alive, so Torald's probably not dead, just... in a really awful predicament. 

[KotZ]

4 hours ago, samurai-turtle said:

Yeah, this political crap bores me in general and I don't like it. Plus, I think we need to fine some new "Dungeon Masters" to help keep the game going in the future. 

I was wondering if putting the game on another site might be a good idea, or is their just not enough people interested for that idea in general. 

I usually love political stuff, but since Kiray really has no skin in the game, there's not much for her to do. I think moving the game to another site would be disastrous. I've seen other websites that do something similar, and it's horrible for the userbase.

3 hours ago, Kintobor said:

I'll have more to say on Heroica v2.0 once everything has been said and done in 159, as well as my thoughts on the game in general. 

As for the "Eurobricks is dying", I doubt that's the issue. BotBS and Historica are seemingly still doing fine. People got burnt out: I got burnt out.

Ehile EB certainly has seemed to taken a lull, there's a lot of active accounts and games going on. I think everyone is just burnt out.

[UsernameMDM]

I'm all on board for 2.0, and will volunteer as GM if we can find a way to streamline combat.

[Waterbrick Down]

Thanks for your patience folks, getting the final post put together.

[UsernameMDM]

I didn't even think about illustrating my epilogue with Lego & mini-figs!  What's wrong with me? 

[Waterbrick Down]

18 minutes ago, UsernameMDM said:

I didn't even think about illustrating my epilogue with Lego & mini-figs!  What's wrong with me? 

I don’t mind editing the post. Feel free to send me headshots if you want them included.

[UsernameMDM]

Yeah, Hoke needs a less intense face. 

[The Legonater]

Out of curiosity, WBD, do you intend on posting all the PM Side-Quests?