[KEY TOPIC] Official Lego sets made in LDraw

[nitrofurano]

i tried to add

1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 313.dat
1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 593c01.dat
1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 592c.dat

into 102A_FrontEndLoader_1970.ldr, and they don’t appear - is that really correct? or perhaps the ldraw libraries i’m using on LeoCad are incomplete?

(if you can have a model working fine, please send a pastebin or etherpad link with a revision, or share here...)

[nitrofurano]

313 - London Bus [1966]

another London Bus version (this one looks printed numbers a bit unaligned)

(i think there are no errors in this one? please help verifying...)

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/313_londonbus

[Philo]

4 hours ago, nitrofurano said:

i tried to add

1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 313.dat
1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 593c01.dat
1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 592c.dat

into 102A_FrontEndLoader_1970.ldr, and they don’t appear - is that really correct? or perhaps the ldraw libraries i’m using on LeoCad are incomplete?

(if you can have a model working fine, please send a pastebin or etherpad link with a revision, or share here...)

Ah - many problems...

- the transformation matrix you used is not valid, line should look like 1 4 130 -70 -80 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 313.dat

- 593c01 is not an official part, you may need to add unofficial parts (available here http://www.ldraw.org/library/tracker/) to your library

- 592c doesn't exist. the link I provided (http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=592c) shows many related parts, for example 592c06.dat But again this part is not official, you have to update your library.

I played with your model... Here is a new version with corrected positions (some parts in front bucket, wheels and belts), brick with LEGO logo, forgotten exhaust and usage of transparent bricks without internal structure (the 1x6 is unofficial)

And another one, with battery box, cable, and more "live" position! Not sure it opens correctly in LeoCAD (I made it with LDCad)

[nitrofurano]

excellent! thanks for improving and sharing!

btw, from your .ldr, nothing of what you added appears on LeoCad, i guess it’s really about outdated libraries

[nitrofurano]

309 - Church [1958]

i guess this model needs a huge revision... :S

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/309_church

 

[nitrofurano]

335 - Transport Truck [1967]

another model with missing and wrong parts... :S (help needed as well)

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/335_transporttruck

 

[Philo]

309 looks good... but year brick is 3067pt2.dat. Building instructions at that time were not for the faint hearted ;)

335 could be improved:

- brick with "transport" stencil pattern is 3010pt6.dat

- turntable is 3404cc01.dat

- Steering is 799.dat+800c01.dat (or 800c02.dat)

- Chassis plate + steeting hole is 803.dat. The faked plate you used and cabin are placed one plate too high (collide with turntable and don't touch wheels.

[nitrofurano]

thanks!

3067pt2.dat works fine on 309

709.dat and 803.dat also on 335 (the other ones don’t - do you know how can i update the library on LeoCad?)

1550 - Sterling Jet [1972]

no errors in this one, i guess?

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/1550_sterlingjet

[nitrofurano]

290 - Dining Suite [1973]

no errors, i guess...

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/290_diningsuite

 

i think i didn’t post these ones here:

425 - Fork Lift [1974]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/425_forklift

 

650 - Car with Trailer and Racing Car [1972]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/650_carwithtrailerandracingcar

 

660 - Car with Aeroplane and Trailer [1975]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/660_carwithaeroplaneandtrailer

 

699 - Photo Safari [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/699_photosafari

 

Edited July 26, 2017 by nitrofurano

[Darats]

2 hours ago, nitrofurano said:

thanks!

3067pt2.dat works fine on 309

709.dat and 803.dat also on 335 (the other ones don’t - do you know how can i update the library on LeoCad?)

1550 - Sterling Jet [1972]

no errors in this one, i guess?

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/1550_sterlingjet

According to the picture you have parts overlapping on the tail.

58 minutes ago, nitrofurano said:

660 - Car with Aeroplane and Trailer [1975]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/660_carwithaeroplaneandtrailer

699 - Photo Safari [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/699_photosafari

660: the yellow tile of the tail is collinding with the plate's studs.

699: the grey plate of the camera is colliding with the roof's studs.

 

You should double-check more carefully before submitting sets.

Edited July 26, 2017 by legolijntje
Please don't quote images :)

[Philo]

Just now, Darats said:

According to the picture you have parts overlapping on the tail.

Yes, but file looks OK there... But there are other problems: wheels do not sit properly in the support (they are two ldu too low) and rear wheels/supports are not properly plugged (1/2 stud offset)

 

[Darats]

Just now, Philo said:

Yes, but file looks OK there... But there are other problems: wheels do not sit properly in the support (they are two ldu too low) and rear wheels/supports are not properly plugged (1/2 stud offset)

 

As an advice: Using LDCad with part snapping will greatly help you to avoid this kind of mistakes.

[nitrofurano]

@Darats i actually try to infinitely check before posting, the fact is i’m really not good on it! :D (i have a bit of attention deficit and dyslexia, so i really need revising help!!! :D ) - and btw, only now i saw that 1550 missed a 2x3 white plate in front! :D 

Edited July 26, 2017 by nitrofurano

[nitrofurano]

663 - Hovercraft [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/663_hovercraft

i hope this one has no errors as well! :D (and please let me know if is there some error - soon i’m going to fix 600 and 699, thanks again! ;) )

[nitrofurano]

@Darats updated 660 and 699 at http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/ - thanks! :)   (those parts are specially not that easy to get exactly placed, and thanks a lot for the heads up! and specially, as i think most of you all figured out, i use to clean .ldr files, replacing most of the float coordinates into integer values (i think float values are mostly needed on those more recent models, not those made before 80’s), that i think helps to get a cleaner result and a smaller .ldr document )

 

@legolijntje just a question: since the first messages from this thread helps us to know which models were made - i humbly think that they are a bit difficult to find out which ones were made, since they are not yet sorted numerically, and grouped in different digits (first those with 3 digits, then 4, then 5... ), or at least as closest as possible - it doesn’t need to be in a rush, you can have your time fixing it progressivelly - i was concerned because i was almost about to remake models that actually were remade in .ldr format - what do you think?

Edited July 26, 2017 by nitrofurano

[Darats]

You shouldn't clean you ldr/mpd file that way, if a coordinate has digits it is not a problem at all and it won't reduce file size significantely.

[roland]

27 minutes ago, Darats said:

You shouldn't clean you ldr/mpd file that way, if a coordinate has digits it is not a problem at all and it won't reduce file size significantely.

Unless it is something like 80.0001 or 79.9999, those really annoy me :)

[nitrofurano]

1 hour ago, Darats said:

You shouldn't clean you ldr/mpd file that way, if a coordinate has digits it is not a problem at all and it won't reduce file size significantely.

almost always it gets reduced to half of its original size! :D (at least on the simplest/oldest models - i can imagine that technics models might use floats a lot! :D )

btw, doing that process, i speed up a lot the cleaning process

another "speed booster" i found was this one, generating a .ldr file template from a parts list (i actually made this script based on another one i used for other things, like rendering/converting .obj files and alike) (i understand that some people might not be comfortable with sdlbasic, perhaps developers here might want to convert the script to another thing, other languages (like python, lua, etc.), etc.)

 

1 hour ago, roland said:

Unless it is something like 80.0001 or 79.9999, those really annoy me :)

exactly, they are quite frequent from LeoCad... :S (but i don’t mind cleaning that, at all)

711 - Jeep CJ5 [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/711_jeepcj5

Edited July 26, 2017 by nitrofurano

[nitrofurano]

603 - Sidecar [1978]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/603_sidecar

 

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by nitrofurano

[legolijntje]

4536 - Blue Hopper Car - Trains

Errors:

• Missing stickers

Download here.

[legolijntje]

4537 - Octan Twin Tank Rail Tanker - Trains

Errors:

• Missing stickers
• Missing Octan print on the barrels
• Missing string with nozzle. If anyone feels like adding it, feel free

Download here.

[legolijntje]

4525 - Road and Rail Repair - Trains

Errors:

• Missing stickers

Download here.

[nitrofurano]

698 - JAL Boeing 727 [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/698_jalboeing727

do anyone know where from can we find that missing bb96pb01.dat? 

[nitrofurano]

491 - Formula 1 Racer [1977]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/491_formula1racer

(btw, i’m assuming all my models has errors, please help us figuring them out! ;) )

[nitrofurano]

480 - Rescue Helicopter [1975]

http://bricksafe.com/pages/nitrofurano/480_rescuehelicopter

errors:  wrong transparent 2x4 slope brick (a quite unusual one, i guess - http://peeron.com/inv/parts/x453 );

Edited August 21, 2017 by nitrofurano