Rumors: 1h 2011 technic sets?

[JunkstyleGio]

Ah yes, the POOP (pieces of other pieces) trend. ......

You are so right! I realy don't like the "one use only" parts....

POOP is a great new AFOL word!

[cbt]

Ah yes, the POOP (pieces of other pieces) trend. In my opinion, a part should only be created if it allows something to be done which cannot be done with assembled individual parts. This is why I like small, simple parts the best. The fun and creativity of LEGO comes from combining parts in interesting ways to achieve useful results. That's why I don't like most of the Racers R/C line. They are basically one big part with wheels on it. Where's the fun in that? Contrast that with set 853 in which the steering was built up out of 2x2 turntables, axles were used for steering arms, and the crankshaft was built up from gears. That's LEGO!

Yeah, for those being retrospective, everything was better back in the good old days - that was real LEGO!

And that is what this guy thinks too: Traumatic Events in the Life of a Lego Fan

Oh no, innovation, oh no, new ways of doing things. Just gimme that good old wooden stuff, or just the good old 2 x 4 bricks made of CA.

You are so right! I realy don't like the "one use only" parts....

POOP is a great new AFOL word!

No, it's a great new ALOF word!

(Adult Lack Of Fantasy - or should we say Imagination, since fantasy is not this absent in other adult contexts..).

As we grow older some people suffers more and more from functional fixedness and a grumpy kind of "retrospectivness".

Just look at (and learn by) how children put LEGO together, sometimes it is upside down and in various "impossible" ways. Some adult builders has preserved that functional unfixedness throughout their adulthood - like Michael Jasper or MisaQa among many others - and ask yourself whether this is the core of the LEGO spirit or whether it is being grumpy and retrospective

This particular item is not a one-hit-wonder. Please reconsider once again how you would achieve what this thing is doing by using any existing parts. And no, don't start by searcing your collection for 2 x 4 bricks.

We really should welcome any new Technic piece, since each of them offers new building possibilities.

The Technic theme has never before been endowed with so many new and very useful parts.

Appreciate every single one of them - and start using them and use your imagination. Please!

[JunkstyleGio]

Well well, Humor is something of a concept that needs to be understood.

[Tobbe Arnesson]

Time to start saving money, and more importantly, a place where I can display the Backhoe .. my LEGO closet is almost full.

I'd say it's time you came out of the closet.

[mahjqa]

It's a great part and I want twelve.

At least.

[Anio]

each of them offers new building possibilities.

Wrong. Definitely wrong.

Many Most of them do not enable anything new but make things we already know easier.

[allanp]

If I may in with my opinion once again!

True, it was great to see how they accomplished some things like steering out of 2x2 turntables, but I see no harm in improving things. If we stuck to turntables then what would the 8880 have been like?

If a 200 piece set today can be made with 130 pieces in a couple of years then surely the chances of a 200 piece set being better in a couple of years than it is now increases (although that is sadly not always the case as I have previously mentioned). A greater diveristy of specialised parts does not ausually mean decreased complexity or innovation in technic (maybe in other themes), it usually means the opposite (I say usually because IMHO the LA does not conform to that statement). For example I want a supercar with lots of new gearbox parts, something sort of more like these (with lots of fine tuning of course)....

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=196086

....so I can make a gearbox that is more efficient (less internal friction) and can handle greater stress and is more realistic. Such a gearbox would likely require less parts and have many specialised parts (that can also be used in other places). That is not a bad thing if it means the core values of technic (such as authentisity and complexity) are maintained, which in this case they certainly would be. Besides the parts saved in the gearbox could go towards making another cool feature, or more likely in this case enhancing the gearbox itself with some cool, complex and authentic gearchange linkages. All in all the specialised parts would allow for what is actually a more complex, robust, efficient and more authentic gearbox. That's a good thing isn't it?

[dolittle]

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=196086

Change the BMP images to PNG, its a waste to have to download a BMP when a PNG would have looked just as good.

The file size reduction is staggering... 1.1M of BMP becomes 46K of PNG with little to no visible loss of quality.

Edited November 16, 2010 by dolittle

[allanp]

Change the BMP images to PNG, its a waste to have to download a BMP when a PNG would have looked just as good.

The file size reduction is staggering... 1.1M of BMP becomes 46K of PNG with little to no visible loss of quality.

Ah thankyou, I did not know that.

[Blakbird]

This particular item is not a one-hit-wonder. Please reconsider once again how you would achieve what this thing is doing by using any existing parts. And no, don't start by searcing your collection for 2 x 4 bricks.

We really should welcome any new Technic piece, since each of them offers new building possibilities.

The Technic theme has never before been endowed with so many new and very useful parts.

Appreciate every single one of them - and start using them and use your imagination. Please!

Seems people are being too serious. I certainly welcome a large number of the changes which have evolved and improved the Technic system since 1977. I fact, I think many of the modern models are much better than even some of those classics. And I have no objection to the new part in question; it actually looks like a useful part. I was commenting on certain parts (not this one) which add nothing to the System because they are just a combination of multiple parts into one. Those parts I don't like because they only make the building system more restricted. Any part which enables a new way of building or improves on an existing one is a good thing to me though.

By the way, I did not coin the phrase POOP. It is already an AFOL word.

[DLuders]

Fewer parts --> Less handling cost --> Lower set prices --> Customers more likely to buy set

[Blakbird]

Fewer parts --> Less handling cost --> Lower set prices --> Customers more likely to buy set

Fewer parts may or may not translate into lower prices depending on how complex the parts are. For example, Bionicle is very expensive on a per part basis because the parts are so complex. Handling cost probably is not a large percentage these days since robotic pickers do it all. To take advantage of economies of scale, they want to make as many of each simple part as possible and use them in any many sets as possible. If the mold costs and machine setup costs are amortized over more parts, each part gets cheaper.

I understand your point though. Everything LEGO does is a calculated decision. Whether each of us may agree or not, they have a good reason for each thing they do.

[Anio]

[Milan]

Nice, Helicopter and yellow tow truck are great.

[Jetro]

I love the pickup truck, but the back hoe is still number one!

[grohl]

Nice, Helicopter and yellow tow truck are great.

Exactly same opinion as you. Maybe it is because my name is Milan I would never expect a helicopter to be an alternative of a helicopter but this one is really good looking.

[Zerobricks]

Wow the heli B model looks almost better as A! Tow trucks looks great too, and I think the SUV's B model steers when tilted.

[Tobbe Arnesson]

Wow the heli B model looks almost better as A!

I don't agree on the "almost".

[Zerobricks]

Anyone got any ideas for H2 models? I think an articulated 6 wheeled flatbed truck would be awesome You guys got any ideas?

[dhc6twinotter]

Anyone got any ideas for H2 models? I think an articulated 6 wheeled flatbed truck would be awesome You guys got any ideas?

1) An airplane with working ailerons, rudder, elevators, landing gear, and flaps. Something on floats would be even better.

2) A real super car with transmission, suspension, etc.

3) A forest forwarder with pneumatics.

4) A trash truck with grabber arm and dump bed.

5) A Forklift.

6) A road grader.

7) An American style tow truck (based on a Peterbuilt chassis).

[Countdown]

Anyone got any ideas for H2 models? I think an articulated 6 wheeled flatbed truck would be awesome You guys got any ideas?

You're right Zblj, a nice 6-wheels flatbed would be great to transport the 8047 if it's in the same scale.

Seriously, with all the nice MOCs of low-bow trailers we've had in the last few months, I'd really hope for an official set from TLG. Just the tractor and gooseneck trailer in the scale of the 8043/8065. It'd be a really awesome UCS set imho.

A road grader in the same scale would also be great!!!

Edited December 4, 2010 by Countdown

[Zerobricks]

Also a model with integrated compressor and pneumatics would also be cool.

[LegoDejc]

Also a model with integrated compressor and pneumatics would also be cool.

Can't agree more on this coment.

[LordGalewind]

Summer rumors are starting to appear!

Unconfirmed source...

8081 Extreme Cruiser, 75.00 Euro, Release: June

Oh, and I picked up the first half of 2011's sets(excluding the supercar) at my local toys r us. I would take pictures of them...but it would be of no real value because these are Christmas presents, so no opening them!

Edited December 5, 2010 by LordGalewind

[allanp]

I would like:

Sea king rescue helicoptor (including fully functional cyclic/collective/tail rotor pitch controls for both pilots, motor, winch)

JCB back hoe (including motorized air compressor/4 wheel drive/engine, longer pneumatics, steering, tilting front axle)

Super car (including 6 speed+revease gearbox with gear stick linkages, V8/10 engine, suspention, steering)

Truck/crane (including 4 live axles, 8 wheel drive (motorised), 4 wheel steering, suspention)

Monster truck (including live axles, suspention, 4 wheel drive, 4 wheel steering, gearbox, engine, motorised)

Excavator (incuding motorised air compressor/tracks/engine/superstructure rotation, much longer pneumatics, steering via gearbox)

Edited December 5, 2010 by allanp