Chromeknight Posted December 23, 2009 I like the simple crossing, it means it will be cheap and there hasn't been a cheap one in many years. Also it includes 4 straights and no curves, a nice way to expand loops without ending up with a sack of curved rails. When Bricklink has curves at half the price (or less) and twice the availability of straights, regardless of which type, that's a signal that a box of 8 curves and 8 straights is just annoying for thinking consumers. On the topic of tracks the 7939 cargo train has 16 curves, 8 straights, 16 flex (equivalent to 4 pieces of track) and left and right points. i.e the same track total as 7898 The box seems to show a simple loop of track though. Can someone with the catalog in front of them confirm a simple loop or have they done something neat with the flex track? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavaTheAggie Posted December 23, 2009 It's a shame to see a Volkswagon bus pulling those freight cars, but I've never really been one to keep sets together, anyway. --Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Svelte Posted December 23, 2009 Maybe someone wants to put it on the frontpage?http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerjanlennips...57622932020553/ We don't post any pics marked confidential or prelim, or deeplink them in discussion threads You can link to them, however, as you have done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hinckley Posted December 23, 2009 sorry for foto i am new her and i dont know the rules about imgs so i have remove the foto and post the link. Rick is not a moderator, so you don't have to listen to him. Don't worry about it. Folks, please use the report button and don't moderate for us. If you're not staff, you don't have a place to tell other people how to behave. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightningtiger Posted December 23, 2009 Now we have better images (well they are a bit better) I think this is what the maintance vehicle is based on. It's a German excavator. What do you think ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brickzone Posted December 23, 2009 Freight loco looks great - I like the style and colours, and the collection of things included in the set looks like good starting equipment for a busy freight yard. Not at all sure about the passenger train - the smoke panels somehow look unrealistic highlighted by the red colour of the carriages, and the slopes alongside the front/back window look too chunky. However, it is prelim presumably, so maybe the finished model will be more polished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brickthus Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) Now we have better images (well they are a bit better) I think this is what the maintance vehicle is based on.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...wegebagger.jpeg It's a German excavator. What do you think ? Given that the maintenance vehicle on the box is lifting a track panel, I'd say it's like .Buy two level crossings and you can re-enact it! There is a great range of hydraulic tools for real vehicles of this type. The ones used here have a pair of clamps for grabbing the rails. As you see in the video, sleepers can fall off the rails quite easily, so it's best to grab the rails, which are the heaviest bit of the panel. I saw another tool for tamping ballast, so it's not just a tamper vehicle that can do it. I was impressed by the co-ordination required (note the use of the horn). If one driver pushed his joystick the wrong way, both machines might tip over! Mark Edited December 23, 2009 by Mark Bellis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightningtiger Posted December 24, 2009 Given that the maintenance vehicle on the box is lifting a track panel, I'd say it's like .Buy two level crossings and you can re-enact it! There is a great range of hydraulic tools for real vehicles of this type. The ones used here have a pair of clamps for grabbing the rails. As you see in the video, sleepers can fall off the rails quite easily, so it's best to grab the rails, which are the heaviest bit of the panel. I saw another tool for tamping ballast, so it's not just a tamper vehicle that can do it. I was impressed by the co-ordination required (note the use of the horn). If one driver pushed his joystick the wrong way, both machines might tip over! Mark With that we need not just two crossing sets, but to MOC these as well track panel lifters. Found it on UK web site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Dawson Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) Now that we have a proper prelim pic , the range looks good. The PF included is a battery box, reciever, proper motor bogie and controller (and wires as necessary..). Sounds like the train sets themselves are expensive. Let's hope that they are available readily. TRU, Argos, etc; please stock 'em. Pretty please? EDIT: I said the train looks like Edited December 24, 2009 by Matt Dawson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasB Posted December 24, 2009 Hello, I am new here and "I play Lego about 35 years! - trains as well (blue was the beginning, now 9v, since 2004 again)" I just want to say, that for me, the red passenger train is more interesting than the yellow sth., because it looks like the actual trains, that are in use in Germany! I just have a question, if this sets are equipped with a battery box - is it the big size or similar to the 7,4v LiPo? Many greetingsfrom bavaria and merry christmas! Thomas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legoliner Pilot Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) Hello,I am new here and "I play Lego about 35 years! - trains as well (blue was the beginning, now 9v, since 2004 again)" I just want to say, that for me, the red passenger train is more interesting than the yellow sth., because it looks like the actual trains, that are in use in Germany! I just have a question, if this sets are equipped with a battery box - is it the big size or similar to the 7,4v LiPo? Many greetingsfrom bavaria and merry christmas! Thomas Hmm... -Zooms in- Yup, it come with the rechargeable one, because there are no TECHNIC holes on the side of the battery box. On the boxes, here is the list of Power Functions parts (sorry for size, they are from Brickset): 1. 2. 3. 4. Since it has a rechargeable battery box I wouldn't be surprised if the set contained one of these. Edited December 25, 2009 by Legoliner Pilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brickthus Posted December 25, 2009 Hmm... -Zooms in-Yup, it come with the rechargeable one, because there are no TECHNIC holes on the side of the battery box. On the boxes, here is the list of Power Functions parts (sorry for size, they are from Brickset): 1. http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8878-1.jpg 2. http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8866-1.jpg 3. http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8883-1.jpg 4. http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8879-1.jpg Since it has a rechargeable battery box I wouldn't be surprised if the set contained one of these. Can we get a better image of the battery box, as displayed on the train set boxes? It is not certain that the LiPo battery is included because the price points may be too low for that. That would also remove the need for the charger to be included. Instead, it might be a new type of battery box. Might such a box be the same size as the LiPo one and contain 6 AAAs? Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legoliner Pilot Posted December 25, 2009 I am pretty sure that is the rechargeable Battery Box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEGOMAN132 Posted December 25, 2009 I think the red train looks alot like the one from 2006 but the red color is alot better looking. The new Cargo train looks good I like that it comes with a crane and tanker car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashi Valkoinen Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) I got yesterday a book named "333 locomoties and trains", and I found something interesting in it: This is a train in Germany as ThomasB wrote, this is the 423/433 train. Here you are and English link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBAG_Class_423 (pictures and description) Other: first time I tought that the nem passanger train and the freight train will include a rechargeable battery box, but there is no 10VDC cable in this set (or it's not shown on the box of the sets). But a smaller battery box or a rechargeable battery box will be good for train fans, I think. :) Edited December 25, 2009 by Ashi Valkoinen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightningtiger Posted December 25, 2009 I think the red train looks alot like the one from 2006 but the red color is alot better looking. The new Cargo train looks good I like that it comes with a crane and tanker car. The 2006 white train was based on a fusion of French and German high speed trains. I found this out of a Discovery Channel doco about year ago. By the way folks, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmantel Posted December 25, 2009 Somebody on lowlug.nl who looked at the dealer catalog (from which the pictures were taken) said that it included the rechargeable battery. I don't know if he/she assumed it was that one because it looks identical or if it said so in the text. Regarding the price point: somebody mentioned that the price for the goods train in New Zealand would be 399 NZD, while the old RC train was 349 NZD. Both included a (different) remote and train motor, while the RC train had a special chassis with battery holder, and the new one has a rechargeable battery and IR reciever. It seems to make sense that for an extra 50 NZD they're able to delete some (rather expensive) parts and add some other (even more) expensive ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Dawson Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) I, personally, can't see why Lego doesn't offer a non-motorised version of each set, and then gives you a discount code so you can buy the PF parts in one go to bring it upto full set price - they'll hardly lose any money, especially as a person could buy it in two seperate parts... Edited December 25, 2009 by Matt Dawson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasB Posted December 25, 2009 Hello, as Ashi Valkoinen wrote, I agree the Baureihe 423/433 train could be the "inspiration" for the new lego passenger train. Thanks Ashi! Has anybody an idea which original train lego had "in mind" modelling the yellow cargo train? I was looking at all of my Maerklin and Fleischmann catalogues and could not find a similar exemplar. Perhaps sth from the Netherlands, Austria or a private railway company? On the other hand I hope they will include the LiPo and the charger, so I can use it for the EN. By the way, does anybody know, if this LiPo box has a logic inside for the charging process (Load Balancer?), because if not, I fear, that the LiPo will not last long. Thomas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightningtiger Posted December 25, 2009 Well 'ThomasB' I think I might have found the closest train so far to the Yellow cargo train. I'll do a bit more digging around to find a photo of a real train instead of another toy train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllanSmith Posted December 25, 2009 I thinkit looks more like this New Zealand electric locomotive. An EF class for use on the electrified line between Palmerston North and Hamilton. More info on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_EF_class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightningtiger Posted December 25, 2009 That train you provided a Kiwi picture of is made by the Brush Traction company. Here is a close up of this engine, see what you all think ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasB Posted December 25, 2009 Hello, perhaps sth like this, without the Wiebe Logo? Thomas Picture from www.lokomotive.de Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ondra Posted December 26, 2009 Any of diesel...If you look very close up, you will see electric pantograph ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gambort Posted December 26, 2009 By the way, does anybody know, if this LiPo box has a logic inside for the charging process (Load Balancer?), because if not, I fear, that the LiPo will not last long.Thomas I believe it does. Certainly that was part of the plan from the very earliest day of it. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
