Batman (DC Superheroes) 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[Lego Nostalgia]

I think I know why Atlantis happened, Mayor Corn-Cob dumped toxic waste into the sea and it mutated sea creatures into these mutated monsters and he sent the divers to deal with the mess they created so the media wouldn't know anything.

[Changbricks]

51 minutes ago, DaleCooperFBI said:

Really hoping next year we get some Constantine sets based off the upcoming Kenau Reeve sequel. Think it will be a much needed W for DC.  

 

 

I'm saying Kea-yes to this Keanu idea! My Justice League Dark MOC is dying to add Mr. Constantine to the roster. Or maybe we could get Johnana Constantin from Netflix's The Sandman? Hubba Hubba!

Regards,

Changbricks

[Renny The Spaceman]

32 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I think I know why Atlantis happened, Mayor Corn-Cob dumped toxic waste into the sea and it mutated sea creatures into these mutated monsters and he sent the divers to deal with the mess they created so the media wouldn't know anything.

Oh it all adds up, it might also have given the regular sea life smaller changes + a slightly higher level of sapience explaining why modern LEGO sharks have eyebrows and are always angry now

[DaleCooperFBI]

52 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

We won't. 

We don't even know if the film will actually happen.

Oh :( my friend (works in a lego store and lives in Hollywood) has said whispers are only getting stronger in regards to the Constantine sequel (or Constan2e as I think it will be called), and with lego making sets off of more violent and disturbing material (Jaws, Hocus Pucs etc.) I really think lego would be fools to not capitalise. 

 

34 minutes ago, Changbricks said:

I'm saying Kea-yes to this Keanu idea! My Justice League Dark MOC is dying to add Mr. Constantine to the roster. Or maybe we could get Johnana Constantin from Netflix's The Sandman? Hubba Hubba!

Regards,

Changbricks

Knew I wasn't the only Constantine fan round these parts. Oh my god Johanne was such a cool take on the character in The Sandman, I know some folks on here were a bit upset about lady Penguin the other day but Lady Constantine was epic so as far as im concerned bring on the ladies!!

[RedHoodPug]

5 hours ago, DaleCooperFBI said:

Really hoping next year we get some Constantine sets based off the upcoming Kenau Reeve sequel. Think it will be a much needed W for DC.  

 

 

If there were to be a Keanu Constantine minifigure before a comic accurate or even Matt Ryan version, I would put a curse upon the house of Lego for such an injustice. He is worse than Jack Nicholson's Joker. If anyone wants to talk about unnecessary changes to a character, then making the Hellblazer an American personality void just to suit the actor's range is up there.

[calebcold3]

Which of these 2 potential D2Cs would you all think is likely for next year for DC? 

A modular comic-based Daily Planet (this would give LEGO an reason to reuse the Superman and Lex figures from the mech)

OR

A Oversized Tumbler that can fit the Batpod from this year (similar to the infamous 2022 Hulkbuster fitting the Iron Man figure) that has only 1-2 minifigures 

I would want the first option, but knowing LEGO, they would pursue the second option. 

[PGBQW]

51 minutes ago, calebcold3 said:

Which of these 2 potential D2Cs would you all think is likely for next year for DC? 

A modular comic-based Daily Planet (this would give LEGO an reason to reuse the Superman and Lex figures from the mech)

OR

A Oversized Tumbler that can fit the Batpod from this year (similar to the infamous 2022 Hulkbuster fitting the Iron Man figure) that has only 1-2 minifigures 

I would want the first option, but knowing LEGO, they would pursue the second option. 

Honestly I don't see none of them happening at all.

For the first, they're not going to jump from a 15€ mech to a 300€ modular.

And for the second: I think it feels to convoluted for a set that big. The Hulkbuster only needed to open the head, but for this you'd need to open the whole thing in half, so it would need to be huge

[THELEGOBATMAN]

We'll be lucky if we even get a single set based on Superman, so I'd hold your horses on a modular Daily Planet D2C. 

[psqidexslizer]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-KqASkobDt/?igsh=MWZjbnhrN2tpdDdycQ==
 

For anyone who likes Lego DC but wishes it had more Batman and Joker.

7 hours ago, calebcold3 said:

Which of these 2 potential D2Cs would you all think is likely for next year for DC? 

A modular comic-based Daily Planet (this would give LEGO an reason to reuse the Superman and Lex figures from the mech)

OR

A Oversized Tumbler that can fit the Batpod from this year (similar to the infamous 2022 Hulkbuster fitting the Iron Man figure) that has only 1-2 minifigures 

I would want the first option, but knowing LEGO, they would pursue the second option. 

I wouldn’t rule out a Daily Planet modular building, but with that said, I’d be surprised if our first DC modular wasn’t Batman related.

My best guess though would be a large scale The Bat. That seems to be the last Batman vehicle from a popular Batman movie (that isn’t the Batmobile from The Batman (I think that’ll release alongside the next movie)) that hasn’t been done at that scale yet. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

I've seen four episodes of Caped Crusader and I can confirm it's peak so far. Episode 3 was especially good.

It also has a lot of set potential—Catwoman even has a Catmobile in it. 

[Max_Lego]

I've seen all episodes of B:CC and liked it. It's absolutely nothing like the R-rated violent thriller everyone was expecting. Episode 3 is just plain hilarious.

It's just my personal perception, but I don't think Batman is even the main character - while he is essential to the plot, he is never in the main focus of the story.

Thankfully, despite Matt Reeves' involvement, this young and beginning Batman is even more competent than his BTAS counterpart (unlike Pattinson's year 3). He is also not an ungrateful bastard towards Alfred, just a little cynical, which is justified by the plot and changes a little in the finale. The Nocturna episode shows he is capable of compassion almost as much as in BTAS, and more than in TNBA.

Though he suffers from plot inconsistencies (episodes 1-3 portray him with zero redeeming traits and care for justice, which contradicts following episodes), this version of Harvey Dent is now easily my favourite. The fact that he has absolutely nothing in common with his actual Golden Age self is for the best. Unlike BTAS, his sanity problems aren't a plot device that came out of nowhere, and he seems to be genuinely struggling with them. His violence is at least partially justified, and he understands it's not the right thing to do.

As much as I like BTAS, their Harvey had terrible character development. Introduced as a nice guy, the 'Two-Face' two-parter showed him as a disturbed man turned into a tragic villain, with the following episodes portraying him as plain evil. Nolan's Harvey was a jerk turned into murderous psychopath. IMHO, Bader's Harvey is much easier to sympathise with, despite his many wrong decisions.

The scene in the end with Batman grabbing a gun is awesome. As the Golden Age dark and serious Joker teaser.

Many side characters (the photographer in particular) are interesting enough for me to be unsatisfied with the amount of characterisation they received.

There are some things I didn't like, though. The fast storytelling and some plot inconsistencies that can't be unnoticed. I am utterly disappointed with Onomatopoeia, who, while having some cool moments, doesn't do much and isn't even unmasked in the end.

Overall, while never a replacement for BTAD and TNBA, B:CC was a very fun experience. Looking forward to potential season 2.

 

And, as Alfox would've said: "Turtle gone, carry on." 

[NovaBricks]

Watched two episodes last night and really like it. Was a little hesitant on the Penguin thing not because of the gender swap, but because it seemed like a lazy one in terms of design, but I was pleasantly surprised by her characterization. 

[ARC2149Nova]

I'm only 3 episodes deep, the Clayface episode is my favorite one so far (Bats was waiting for that entrance, Bruce is a theatre kid ). Loved the Catwoman episode too.

I honestly thought it would be more of an interconnected story (like, each episode focusing on and continuing a central conspiracy a la Long Halloween), but so far so good.

I have some notes about characterizations, but a solid show. Batmobile and Catmobile need to happen, though.

[RedHoodPug]

I've watched the first three now, and while I'm cool with a female Penguin and enjoyed the episode I don't think that the voice matched the character. Clayface episode was great, as was the character. The fallen socialite for Selina worked very well with the character they've given her. I would like to see her car realised in brick form. The Batmobile is low key, and reminds me of a hybrid of B:TAS and the Pattinson versions. I still find Alfred being referred to as Pennyworth jarring.

[ARC2149Nova]

15 minutes ago, RedHoodPug said:

I don't think that the voice matched the character.

 I still find Alfred being referred to as Pennyworth jarring.

I agree, especially concerning Alfred. Bruce doesn't seem reverent of his surrogate father at all. Calling him "Pennyworth" is something only Damian can get away with.

[Robert8]

My thoughts on Cape Crusader:

Spoiler

My biggest complain is that they show isnt atmosferic enough like using shadows and such, which made BTAS stand out so much. Also, for some reason Bruce's face was so badly animated. He barely emoted. It didnt give any emotion at all in some very important moments, which took me out of some scenes. 

Other than that, some thoughts:

-Female Penguin wasnt bad all I must admit. Although, as someone mentioned, she needed a much deeper opera-singer voice. I hope we'll see her again in season 2. 

-I remember they mentioned there only like 3 Clayface episodes in BATS because his body and powers were too dificult and costly to animate. I wonder if that's why we barely saw him in this episode as well. Like only his face was shown. Again, another villain that I expect to return in Season 2

-I dont know whatever was that, but she wasnt Harley Quinn at all. They could have named her something else and create a new character. Cant believe they went ahead with that, but since Bruce Timm himself came out the idea, I guess no one had the guts to tell him, even as preposterous as it was. Liked the call back at the end to the scene where Harley "died" in the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie

-The Gentleman Ghost episode was the odd one out for me. I didnt expect a show with this setting going full paranomal. I was fully ready for the reveal that it was someone pretending to be the ghost, like a Scooby Doo thing, but nope. It was the real deal. My least favorite episode of the season. 

-Firefly death was BRUTAL. Loved it. 

-Never been a huge fan of Catwoman, and this version didnt change that. But her catmobile was rather funny I admit

-Cant believe they got rid of Two Face so early in the show.

-I hope that wasnt the Joker in the last scene..... :/ Or at least I hope he isnt the Joker yet, because I'm not sure if I can deal with a serious joker 

Overall some episodes dont feel like they belong together in the same show, but I guess there has to be something for everyone

Cant wait for season 2. Let's hope for Poison Ivy, Mr Freeze and Scarecrow

 

[Lego Nostalgia]

Batman is barely in it, the classic ol bait and switch, a lot of people are race swapped and that ain't Harley or Penguin, JJ Abrams and Bruce Timm are to blame, Paul Dini wrote the old series and WB canceled this show for a reason, it has 100% on RT which can't be trusted these days, Audience Score matters, I don't care if I get called out for my opinion but that's all I have to say, Only passionate Comic Fans for the source material should be hired to write this stuff and diversity shouldn't be forced or the main focus, diversity is great when it's natural, why are they always replacing redheads ? you can't ignore this stuff.

Should have just given it to Matt Reeves even though he worked on this I still believe he didn't make these choices.

Batman had a good voice though and the suit was cool, loved the tone of the 30s/40s but that's all I like about it.

[ARC2149Nova]

I will say, the 1940s setting kind of kills the believability of certain choices. Like, it's the 40s. Certain things just didn't happen, or weren't as open. I think making it closer in time, like the 70s or 80s would've helped that.

Batman wasn't the main character, rather a deutertagonist, which is unfortunate. Also, axing certain characters while faking out others was not ideal either.

I will also point out that they did pull deep from Batman lore, yet still found the need to "modernize" other characters.

But aside from all that, it was an enjoyable watch. Not the best thing ever, not the worst. But that Batmobile is slick!

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I will say, the 1940s setting kind of kills the believability of certain choices. Like, it's the 40s. Certain things just didn't happen, or weren't as open. I think making it closer in time, like the 70s or 80s would've helped that.

Batman wasn't the main character, rather a deutertagonist, which is unfortunate. Also, axing certain characters while faking out others was not ideal either.

I will also point out that they did pull deep from Batman lore, yet still found the need to "modernize" other characters.

But aside from all that, it was an enjoyable watch. Not the best thing ever, not the worst. But that Batmobile is slick!

You worded it better than me, The need for them to ''modernize'' everything is so annoying and it's getting old fast and I fear it won't go away anytime soon, however there is hope since Deadpool and Wolverine proves they're still able and willing to put effort in.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

6 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

it has 100% on RT which can't be trusted these days, Audience Score matters,

What do you mean by "these days"? Audience score is absolutely worthless—at least on Rotten Tomatoes. You're either a "9/10 incredible movie", or a "5/10 boring slop". 

Just look at Deadpool & Wolverine—9.4/10? Seriously? Even people who have seen the movie know that it absolutely does not deserve a rating like that.

It happens because people on websites like this one, or IMDb, operate in extremes—you're either a 10/10, or a 1/10. Not to mention review bombing, which happens more and more often.

I believe the only reliable rating aggregator is Letterboxd, which isn't prone to review bombing or recency bias.

6 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Only passionate Comic Fans for the source material should be hired to write this stuff

That's quite possibly the most close-minded take I've ever seen. You realise that most directors, writers and actors aren't actually passionate nerds who have been following the source material since their childhoods, right?

My favourite example is Tony Gilroy—he isn't a fan of Star Wars. Yet he still wrote and was the showrunner of the best Star Wars project, that doesn't rely on nostalgia or previous knowledge of things.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

6 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I will say, the 1940s setting kind of kills the believability of certain choices. Like, it's the 40s. Certain things just didn't happen, or weren't as open. I think making it closer in time, like the 70s or 80s would've helped that.

You mean the believability of a fictional city inspired by 1940s and noir cinema, with a guy dressed like a bat chasing literal ghosts and murderers? Yeah, certainly.

If your complaint about the believability is a kiss between two women—which I believe you might be alluding to by "didn't happen" and "weren't as open"—then uh... I don't know what to tell you. If not, ignore this paragraph.

3 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

however there is hope since Deadpool and Wolverine proves they're still able and willing to put effort in.

I don't know, I think the only thing Deadpool & Wolverine proves is that nostalgia sells, but that might be just me.

[ARC2149Nova]

@THELEGOBATMAN How much is Bruce Timm paying you to defend Caped Crusader? 

It's not that deep man, not everyone's going to be happy with everything in the show.

[Max_Lego]

8 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

I will say, the 1940s setting kind of kills the believability of certain choices. Like, it's the 40s. Certain things just didn't happen, or weren't as open. I think making it closer in time, like the 70s or 80s would've helped that.

Timm always wanted a Batman show set in the 40s. Of course, it would've been a much better decision to completely avoid certain delicate topics... Just as the Golden Age Batman comics, which don't suffer from values dissonance as much as certain other period pieces (Tom and Jerry?) But I guess no one would've funded the creation of this show then. So we actually got an imaginary 40s-esque setting, where, as they always said, black Hitler is theoretically possible 

At least, it's interesting to watch and entertaining, which again proves that people are less concerned about woke and more about storytelling.

Yes, the animation is lazy and bad, but it's much better than in any DCAMU piece (the animation in Injustice was plain horrible).

I don't understand people, who complain about Batman calling Alfred 'Pennyworth' and are somehow okay with Bruce's treatment of his butler in the 2022 movie. This Bruce is shown to be an 'enfant terrible' from the very beginning, viewing poor Alfred as nothing more than a tool that will enhance his crime-fighting. While being a jerk to him, he at least doesn't openly insult him and warms up a little in the end.

This show is far from being perfect. But in those days even that will do.

Maybe Timm will realise his Fleischer-esque Superman after all...

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

@THELEGOBATMAN How much is Bruce Timm paying you to defend Caped Crusader? 

It's not that deep man, not everyone's going to be happy with everything in the show.

Notice how I didn't even say anything about the series itself? 

I like Caped Crusader. I don't think it's great or anything—definitely worse than, say, My Adventures with Superman—but still really good.

I was rather talking about audience vs critics ratings, writers for comicbook projects, believability in fictional stories etc.

I can absolutely understand someone not liking the series—it definitely has its flaws, which might be much more impactful for some than they are for me.

What I can't understand is people trying to justify their ridiculous "forced diversity" takes, or gatekeeping who should be allowed to create those projects.

[BrickBob Studpants]

29 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

What I can't understand is people trying to justify their ridiculous "forced diversity" takes, or gatekeeping who should be allowed to create those projects.

Both excellent points.

1. What‘s the distinction between „forced“ and „natural“ diversity I wonder? These days, pretty much every character who isn‘t a cis-het caucasian man, no matter whether they‘re brand-new or adapted, gets called „woke“ online. So what exactly are the criteria here?
2. Whether a creator is a fan of the IP or not is irrelevant as it‘s always a group effort. Fans can hand it poor scripts and writers unfamiliar with the IP can deliver great work. Encyclopedic knowledge of the IP can‘t help you write a good story  That‘s why the connective tissue and easter eggs are often added by people outside of the main writing team. For instance, the idea to use Saw Gerrera as the leader of the Partisans in Rogue One didn‘t come from any of the writers, it was the storygroup who suggested it.

Just my 2 cents.