Disney Properties 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[TheFriedChimken]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Official pictures of the D100 Ideas set are out!  Belle does have the same faceprint as Cinderella and Wendy, but other than that, I think it‘s an excellent set!

Deep sadness 😔 Maybe the BATB teaser means we might get a set where they have given her new face printing... Who knows, but this is sad news for me as a big BATB fan. Maybe I can find another head to swap it out.

1 hour ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Yes, thankfully Pooh's house doesn't take up much space at all so it's an easy fit. And I'm a major Pooh fan so in fact, it's the set that got me into Lego Disney. I have the original castle over the new one. I'm happy with that since I prefer the original castle but one thing I do wish it had from the new one is the foliage area dedicated to Pocahontas. I liked that a bit of greenery was included in the castle to provide a forest area that could also work for a character like Bambi. As of now, I have no place to put characters like Bambi and Pocahontas which is why I stuck her at the top of the treehouse lol. Your arrangement sounds like a perfect fit!

The ice castle is definitely worth it and I think you'll be a big fan whenever you do get it. I love the idea of a frozen lake/bridge leading from Cinderella castle to the ice palace! Please post pics if you ever get that made! 

Glad to hear you're recovering. At least it gives you the excuse to be able to lay down and watch some entertainment. I saw Raya once it was free on Disney+ but even then, it took me a few months to get around to it because I was in no hurry. I did enjoy it but it's a very rushed film. If you've ever seen Game of Thrones or Avatar: The Last Airbender, imagine all those seasons worth of episodes and all that story but now crammed into a 1.5 hour film. That's basically Raya. I liked it more than most, and that's coming from someone who generally hasn't cared for Disney's output since Bob Iger took over, but I agree it's a very messy film and most people could not connect to it. The theme in particular was rather polarizing with people feeling it was a rather dangerous lesson to impart. I can see why the film hasn't had much of a legacy and I'd be more surprised if Lego ever made a Raya minifigure than if they didn't. One pro for her as a character is that she's a least a departure from Disney's recent mold for princesses...that being said, she's basically a MCU heroine like Black Widow or Gamora 2.0.

If I hadn't been following the production of Frozen, I wouldn't have had any idea it was based on The Snow Queen either. The final film basically takes nothing from the movie. There's a lot of Russian adaptations for The Snow Queen since it's very popular there, including a classic animated movie from the 50s which was also an inspiration for Hayao Miyazaki's Studio Ghibli films. I've seen some live-action Snow Queen films as well, including a TV one with Bridget Fonda. I also really like Anna's winter outfit which is basically a peasant outfit but is so nice and colorful with the fuchsia pink and blue. Elsa's dress design has gotten a bit old though since every Frozen spinoff basically gives us a recolored version of it.

I don't blame you for avoiding the sequel. The fact it didn't get an Oscar nomination is another red flag. It was very divisive when it comes to critics but also the fandom. I won't spoil anything beyond that but the main thing the film does is give Elsa the spotlight (at the cost of the other characters), which some people felt was making up for the original film's lack of focus on her as a protagonist. However, if you already have issues with how Elsa was hailed as being better than the other princesses, then Frozen II's treatment of her vs Anna will not appeal to you. The music is just okay but not nearly as good as the first film's songs, outside of Elsa's two solo songs. Since you favor Anna, then I definitely don't recommend it because this film was clearly not made to boost her character and in fact, the movie made me outright dislike her so that's how bad her character assassination was. You should stay clear from it at all costs lol.

Your custom Phillip has a great design! Thanks for sharing! I do wish Shaggy's hair came in reddish brown rather than just nougat since I think nougat is a little too light for Phillip's hair. Maybe one day we'll get that piece in the right color.

Yes, I'd love an idea like that where you could have sets that create each Disney movie world! Although between the price and space, maybe it's better Lego holds off on those extra sets lol. There are some Disney map books that feature maps from each movie's world and your idea sounds very similar to that, case in point this BATB example below.

Nice to see official pics. I still have some gripes though.

Geppetto's legs could have used printing to portray his shoes and stockings. Not happy they went with plain black legs. Would have preferred they waited to make him in a CMF series.

Lilo needed dual molded arms to portray her sleeves. She doesn't wear a sleeveless dress. 

Simba feels like he comes straight out of a Friends set. A lot like the Lucifer from the Disney Princess sets. Way too cartoony.

Belle's minifigure looks good and thankfully doesn't have the annoying sparkles they put on all the princesses last year. But the recycled head is annoying.

I don't know why Mickey is missing a mouth. At least they didn't throw sparkles on him like they did on his CMF minifigure.

You've sold me on getting Pooh's house haha! As for the original castle, I actually prefer it's colour scheme over the new one. Castle should be tones of white, silver, and blue in association with Cinderella. The nougat and gold makes me think too much of Aurora. The main thing I like about the new one is the greenery and that it's a bit more polished with the updated pieces, but that's it. If I could find the time to track the pieces and do it, I'd honestly swap the colours to be like the original.

Yes slowly getting there with getting better haha, thank you! While I do enjoy those example series, I don't think my brain would be able to take in a film that has condensed similar concepts into just under an hour... Like it really does sound fun, but I do like having the time to appreciate what I'm watching and if I wouldn't be able to do that I don't know how I'd feel about it upon finishing said film.

I looked up which Snow Queen I watched, and I'm assuming it was some 2005 TV Show - apparently it's a shocking adaptation but I remember enjoying the story and ideas lol.

Speaking of Elsa's dresses, I actually didn't mind the dark blue 'Christmas' one. I don't know what it was about it, but it just felt more closer to what I would think would pass for more princess attire. The Frozen Fever dress felt even more like a costume so I prefer even the OG more over that.

I am definitely going to steer clear of that sequel now lol. I know a few things about it and it made me feel reassured I made the right choice to keep my experience to the first film. Sad that they kinda gave all the more interesting characters, in my opinion, the worst treatment. I'm sure there was a way to elevate and balance love for everyone, but Disney fumbled I guess...

I agree with Philip looking better with darker hair and reddish brown or even dark orange would have been great! Fingers crossed that we see something like this in the future 🤞

Ooo I that map!!! 🫨🤩 How cool!!! Yeah I agree Lego has more pressing sets to cover, I'm just quirky for semi-wanting a whole world of Disney films hahaha.

**EDIT**

Just noticed this: in some photos of the ideas set, Belle's bodice has a line going completely straight up and down - in others it's incomplete... why is that? Also the overall linings of the entire dress seems a lot thinner compared to the other princesses which are more solid looking.

https://flic.kr/p/2qfGgzf

 

Edited September 11 by TheFriedChimken

[TheFriedChimken]

Was bored and decided to come up with an original face print for Belle (top left). I think Lego should have gone with something like this, as I replicated the official head for comparison (bottom left) and it just doesn't suit Belle to me. I'm also aware that I'm being picky and that there would have been a budget... Just a bit bummed out...

 

Edited September 11 by TheFriedChimken

[roselemontea]

I can't be the only one on the fence on buying the set? I'm not really interested in the minifigs apart from Belle and Lilo. I don't have Sebastian and Flounder - so that would be a plus to buy it. I also really like the brooms. With the rumours of a BATB set I might just wait and see for a Belle minifig.. but having the centrepiece Mickey look so poor makes me not want to buy it 

[OttoRiver]

1 hour ago, roselemontea said:

I can't be the only one on the fence on buying the set? I'm not really interested in the minifigs apart from Belle and Lilo. I don't have Sebastian and Flounder - so that would be a plus to buy it. I also really like the brooms. With the rumours of a BATB set I might just wait and see for a Belle minifig.. but having the centrepiece Mickey look so poor makes me not want to buy it 

I'll be honest, I'll be buying it for the figures only. I don't expect I'll even build the actual set. I agree, Mickey's face doesn't look great but I appreciate that they chose to give us new figures as opposed to repeated ones.

Also decided to get a Beast minidoll head and make a custom Beast with what I had on hand until we can get a true one from Lego. Didn't want Belle to get here without a Beast.

Edited September 11 by OttoRiver
adding photo

[Murdoch17]

@OttoRiver That's pretty dang good! Keep up the good work!

[JohnTPT17]

Now that we have full photos of 21352 - Yeah, that set is really just less than the sum of it's parts. I do think that Simba looks better than my initial impressions (still wish he had whiskers, or maybe printed claws), but overall, the highlight is definitely the minifigures and the rest is pretty forgettable. And, with at least half of these minifigs possibly coming in other sets next year anyways, there's not much of a rush to get this set unless you would really want to be an "early adopter." For now, I'll pass - maybe try to get some of the minifigs loose, but that's about it. 

[karrit]

I have to agree with others that I'll be buying this mostly for the minifigs.  I'll build it but most likely the bulk of it will end up in the parts bins eventually.  So my opinion of the set hasn't really changed from my initial impressions when it won the contest.  I felt back then that I would get it more for the figures than the actual overall set.  I am glad that they chose to replace the original minifigs with new ones we don't already have.

[JeanGreyForever]

11 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

You've sold me on getting Pooh's house haha! As for the original castle, I actually prefer it's colour scheme over the new one. Castle should be tones of white, silver, and blue in association with Cinderella. The nougat and gold makes me think too much of Aurora. The main thing I like about the new one is the greenery and that it's a bit more polished with the updated pieces, but that's it. If I could find the time to track the pieces and do it, I'd honestly swap the colours to be like the original.

Yes slowly getting there with getting better haha, thank you! While I do enjoy those example series, I don't think my brain would be able to take in a film that has condensed similar concepts into just under an hour... Like it really does sound fun, but I do like having the time to appreciate what I'm watching and if I wouldn't be able to do that I don't know how I'd feel about it upon finishing said film.

I looked up which Snow Queen I watched, and I'm assuming it was some 2005 TV Show - apparently it's a shocking adaptation but I remember enjoying the story and ideas lol.

Speaking of Elsa's dresses, I actually didn't mind the dark blue 'Christmas' one. I don't know what it was about it, but it just felt more closer to what I would think would pass for more princess attire. The Frozen Fever dress felt even more like a costume so I prefer even the OG more over that.

I am definitely going to steer clear of that sequel now lol. I know a few things about it and it made me feel reassured I made the right choice to keep my experience to the first film. Sad that they kinda gave all the more interesting characters, in my opinion, the worst treatment. I'm sure there was a way to elevate and balance love for everyone, but Disney fumbled I guess...

I agree with Philip looking better with darker hair and reddish brown or even dark orange would have been great! Fingers crossed that we see something like this in the future 🤞

Ooo I that map!!! 🫨🤩 How cool!!! Yeah I agree Lego has more pressing sets to cover, I'm just quirky for semi-wanting a whole world of Disney films hahaha.

**EDIT**

Just noticed this: in some photos of the ideas set, Belle's bodice has a line going completely straight up and down - in others it's incomplete... why is that? Also the overall linings of the entire dress seems a lot thinner compared to the other princesses which are more solid looking.

https://flic.kr/p/2qfGgzf

 

Oh I'm glad to hear you've been won over to get the Pooh set! You won't regret it. I prefer the original castle's color scheme too. It's just much more pleasing on the eyes and really feels more like a real castle. The new one seems way too sugary and bright for me like a child painted it. Good point that the color scheme feels more geared towards Aurora than Cinderella. That's why I don't mind the pink on the Sleeping Beauty castles in Anaheim and Paris but the almost salmon-color pink used for the Cinderella castle now feels garish. A few of the things I liked from the new set, like the glass slipper exhibit, Chef Bouche (the kitchen from Beauty and the Beast), and the sword in the stone, I did get the pieces for online so I could add them to the original castle. I'm guessing it would be very costly to go back and swap all the castle exterior pieces to match the original one and I wonder if all the pieces would even have corresponding colors since the new one is taller and has a slightly different design.

Glad to hear you're slowly recovering! Your confusion on how to feel about a movie like Raya when so much is crammed in, is more or less how I felt after watching it. Most people said it was difficult to feel invested in any of the characters because we don't spend enough time with the gang. And even up to the last minute, the gang keeps getting new additions.

I believe the 2005 Snow Queen series was the BBC version. I haven't seen that one but it looks promising.

The Frozen Fever dress is even weirder because somehow Elsa's ice magic is able to turn her dress green and add the pink flowers on top. That never made sense to me at all. By the time the dark blue Christmas dress came out, I was over seeing another reskinned version of the same dress. The fur trimming was nice although also a bit odd for someone who never feels cold.

The deleted scenes for Frozen II mostly focus on Anna and Kristoff. It's clear that the final movie decided to push Elsa while getting rid of all the other characters' subplots which could take screentime away from her. As a result, everyone else in the movie is just kinda there with nothing to do but support Elsa. None of the new characters leave any impression either.

It took us so many years to get Belle so maybe Prince Phillip still has a chance in the future to get a minifig!

Huh, I never noticed that Belle's line down her torso isn't even fully there in some pics. I'm guessing that's just a graphic error. Yes, I can see what you mean about Belle's linings being much thinner. I prefer that actually because it makes her dress look more delicate. I'm glad they didn't make Belle in the style of the princesses last year. In that sense, I'm glad it took them so long to make her minifig and I really hope Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora can all get new figures in the future. With more movie accurate colors, no sparkles, thinner lines, etc. In Aurora's case, longer hair with a molded crown too.

8 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

Was bored and decided to come up with an original face print for Belle (top left). I think Lego should have gone with something like this, as I replicated the official head for comparison (bottom left) and it just doesn't suit Belle to me. I'm also aware that I'm being picky and that there would have been a budget... Just a bit bummed out...

That's such an improvement!

6 hours ago, roselemontea said:

I can't be the only one on the fence on buying the set? I'm not really interested in the minifigs apart from Belle and Lilo. I don't have Sebastian and Flounder - so that would be a plus to buy it. I also really like the brooms. With the rumours of a BATB set I might just wait and see for a Belle minifig.. but having the centrepiece Mickey look so poor makes me not want to buy it 

I feel this way too. I don't think Mickey is all that well done and he's not enough of a draw for me to want the set for anything but the minifigs. But even minifig wise, I'm not impressed.

Belle is the only one well done. Lilo and Geppetto were both on my wishlist but I'm not pleased with how cheaply they were made with Geppetto getting plain legs, Lilo using Pocahontas' recycled hair and getting no sleeves. Her skin tone isn't common enough for there to be an existing minifigure with dual molded arms that could suit her. I already have Sebastian and Flounder.

I do like the brooms though. After Belle, they're the best part of the set and I would like to have those. I might hold on this set and wait to see if I can get the individual elements cheaper online.

[TheFriedChimken]

9 hours ago, OttoRiver said:

Also decided to get a Beast minidoll head and make a custom Beast with what I had on hand until we can get a true one from Lego. Didn't want Belle to get here without a Beast.

So cool!!! What you've done works very well and would love to try doing the same thing myself 🤩

4 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Oh I'm glad to hear you've been won over to get the Pooh set! You won't regret it. I prefer the original castle's color scheme too. It's just much more pleasing on the eyes and really feels more like a real castle. The new one seems way too sugary and bright for me like a child painted it. Good point that the color scheme feels more geared towards Aurora than Cinderella. That's why I don't mind the pink on the Sleeping Beauty castles in Anaheim and Paris but the almost salmon-color pink used for the Cinderella castle now feels garish. A few of the things I liked from the new set, like the glass slipper exhibit, Chef Bouche (the kitchen from Beauty and the Beast), and the sword in the stone, I did get the pieces for online so I could add them to the original castle. I'm guessing it would be very costly to go back and swap all the castle exterior pieces to match the original one and I wonder if all the pieces would even have corresponding colors since the new one is taller and has a slightly different design.

Glad to hear you're slowly recovering! Your confusion on how to feel about a movie like Raya when so much is crammed in, is more or less how I felt after watching it. Most people said it was difficult to feel invested in any of the characters because we don't spend enough time with the gang. And even up to the last minute, the gang keeps getting new additions.

I believe the 2005 Snow Queen series was the BBC version. I haven't seen that one but it looks promising.

The Frozen Fever dress is even weirder because somehow Elsa's ice magic is able to turn her dress green and add the pink flowers on top. That never made sense to me at all. By the time the dark blue Christmas dress came out, I was over seeing another reskinned version of the same dress. The fur trimming was nice although also a bit odd for someone who never feels cold.

The deleted scenes for Frozen II mostly focus on Anna and Kristoff. It's clear that the final movie decided to push Elsa while getting rid of all the other characters' subplots which could take screentime away from her. As a result, everyone else in the movie is just kinda there with nothing to do but support Elsa. None of the new characters leave any impression either.

It took us so many years to get Belle so maybe Prince Phillip still has a chance in the future to get a minifig!

Huh, I never noticed that Belle's line down her torso isn't even fully there in some pics. I'm guessing that's just a graphic error. Yes, I can see what you mean about Belle's linings being much thinner. I prefer that actually because it makes her dress look more delicate. I'm glad they didn't make Belle in the style of the princesses last year. In that sense, I'm glad it took them so long to make her minifig and I really hope Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora can all get new figures in the future. With more movie accurate colors, no sparkles, thinner lines, etc. In Aurora's case, longer hair with a molded crown too.

Yes thank you for recommending the set - I'm probably going to use the money to buy the ideas set to just part out Belle and dedicate the rest of my budget to Pooh's house.

I'm glad you managed to get a hold of those easter eggs as there are some really nice one - especially Chef Bouche which I think was a real he fun one! It definitely would be expensive to replace the colours of the castle and I'm not sure myself if the colour variants exist for all parts. Might have to leave it for project in the distant future, in the meantime I will have to cope with the amazing description of a very sugary castle haha 😆 

That's a shame that the experience with Raya is one that doesn't allow you to connect with characters. While I don't need to necessarily fully relate to characters, if they don't feel fleshed out it does put me out of it - so I completely understand.

Also I just finished watching the the live action Jungle Book, and it was amazing!!! Thank you for the recommendation! I like so many things they've done to build upon the classic; attention to Mowgli's abilities to emphasis where he belongs but also to make him capable, Sher Khan being more of a threat/menace, Baloo being a bit of an opportunist (in a funny way), so forth and so forth. Music was actually fine in terms of how it was integrated, I just don't think Christopher had the singing voices needed but he was great in terms of dialouge. I enjoyed Kaa but I feel Scarlett Johansson was maybe not the best pick - I think someone with more of entrancing drawn-out voice was needed. Those would be my only nitpicks if someone asked, but seriously the rest was perfection to me - thank you again for recommending it!!!

I get what you mean with Elsa just whipping out a dress from nowhere and all these reskins of the same outfit. It does seem out of nowhere and unnecessary. The only reason why I liked the furr on the Christmas one is because it made me think of one of her original villain concept outfits where she's wearing what seems to be a white ferret coat. 

I don't know if I actually even asked, but did all this focus on Elsa in Frozen 2 at least pay off or offer anything for her character? Not saying that in a nasty way, I'm just curious as to what the goal/outcome was.

Fingers crossed that we do get the other princess and some updated characters! It definitely could be a graphics error - also looks almost as if someone like drew over the image because the gap it's not consistent. I'm also wondering if it might be some gold reflective printing like we have on Aurora, and the glint is as bright as the yellow of the torso in the photo.

5 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

That's such an improvement!

Thank you! Not much can be done beyond redrawing something I guess. I would love to one day make my own prints - though I know it's expensive to do so. I could do a blue Aurora, unique face printing, and forth to give it out to others. Like not even for profit, just because it sucks that such things don't exist when we know it can be done and people want the same thing.

[JeanGreyForever]

17 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

Yes thank you for recommending the set - I'm probably going to use the money to buy the ideas set to just part out Belle and dedicate the rest of my budget to Pooh's house.

I'm glad you managed to get a hold of those easter eggs as there are some really nice one - especially Chef Bouche which I think was a real he fun one! It definitely would be expensive to replace the colours of the castle and I'm not sure myself if the colour variants exist for all parts. Might have to leave it for project in the distant future, in the meantime I will have to cope with the amazing description of a very sugary castle haha 😆 

That's a shame that the experience with Raya is one that doesn't allow you to connect with characters. While I don't need to necessarily fully relate to characters, if they don't feel fleshed out it does put me out of it - so I completely understand.

Also I just finished watching the the live action Jungle Book, and it was amazing!!! Thank you for the recommendation! I like so many things they've done to build upon the classic; attention to Mowgli's abilities to emphasis where he belongs but also to make him capable, Sher Khan being more of a threat/menace, Baloo being a bit of an opportunist (in a funny way), so forth and so forth. Music was actually fine in terms of how it was integrated, I just don't think Christopher had the singing voices needed but he was great in terms of dialouge. I enjoyed Kaa but I feel Scarlett Johansson was maybe not the best pick - I think someone with more of entrancing drawn-out voice was needed. Those would be my only nitpicks if someone asked, but seriously the rest was perfection to me - thank you again for recommending it!!!

I get what you mean with Elsa just whipping out a dress from nowhere and all these reskins of the same outfit. It does seem out of nowhere and unnecessary. The only reason why I liked the furr on the Christmas one is because it made me think of one of her original villain concept outfits where she's wearing what seems to be a white ferret coat. 

I don't know if I actually even asked, but did all this focus on Elsa in Frozen 2 at least pay off or offer anything for her character? Not saying that in a nasty way, I'm just curious as to what the goal/outcome was.

Fingers crossed that we do get the other princess and some updated characters! It definitely could be a graphics error - also looks almost as if someone like drew over the image because the gap it's not consistent. I'm also wondering if it might be some gold reflective printing like we have on Aurora, and the glint is as bright as the yellow of the torso in the photo.

Thank you! Not much can be done beyond redrawing something I guess. I would love to one day make my own prints - though I know it's expensive to do so. I could do a blue Aurora, unique face printing, and forth to give it out to others. Like not even for profit, just because it sucks that such things don't exist when we know it can be done and people want the same thing.

You're welcome. I'm just glad you like the set so much that you want it.

I'm wondering now if anyone else has recolored the new Disney castle. I know with the Hogwarts modular castle sets that some people did recolor the roofs to make them grey instead of sand-green.

For what it's worth, I did enjoy the characters in Raya. The cast of characters makes a nice little family unit by the end, but online I mostly see people say there wasn't enough time to spend with them to feel anything so that was the popular consensus. And what I do agree on is that watching Raya, I couldn't help but feel that it needed to be a TV series as the plotline was scripted more like episodes in a seasonal format. So while the characters aren't the most fleshed out, they do have their charm. But I definitely liked it more than most people did which was the opposite in my case with Encanto.

I'm so glad you enjoyed the live-action Jungle Book! I agree with everything you said. I found Mowgli a lot more interesting in this version since he's given an actual personality rather than petulant little boy in the first one. Feels a lot more sympathetic especially since he has an actual emotional connection to his family, the wolves. That's something about the original I found hard to believe that he leaves his wolf family but he never thinks about them or mentions them ever again. He meets Baloo and by the next day, his only emotional connection on leaving the jungle is Baloo. I didn't have an issue with Christopher Walken's talk-singing but I definitely felt that ScarJo was miscast. Her Kaa did not work for me and I wish they had cast someone else. 

I really like the fur on the Snow Queen designs from concept art and I know the white ferret coat you mean. I think that's partly why I don't like Elsa in the fur because I feel she isn't good enough to wear it like the original Snow Queen lol.

I wish I could properly answer your question if all the focus on Elsa in Frozen II pays off or not, but tbh the movie's plot is so muddled that it's really hard to even come up with an answer. The storyline tries to introduce a bunch of mythos but none of it goes anywhere and a lot of it just seems like mumbo jumbo. To give you an idea of how convoluted the plot is without sharing spoilers, Elsa's motivation is that she hears a voice telling her to journey to a mystical land where that voice is waiting for her. At the end, she has a song which is basically this movie's Let It Go. The filmmakers confirmed in the Frozen II making-of documentary that when they were writing the song, they realized they never came up with who the voice is. It was never actually important to the story, it was just a plot device/mystery box. And watching the movie, you realize that more or less everything that happens really has no significance attached to it and most viewers came out still confused about what exactly they saw.

On top of it, a lot of things got changed last minute after negative test screenings so there's even more ambiguity because most of the significant things that were supposed to happen were cut out. Olaf was supposed to die originally. Obviously this had to be changed because how can they sell merchandise for him then. In one test screening, Elsa was supposed to sacrifice herself but the ending would hint she'd return in the sequel. Apparently Bob Iger nixed this because he wasn't going to kill off Disney's biggest cash cow. And Arendelle was supposed to be destroyed in a massive flood due to its participation in colonialism, but the castle would be rebuilt in the indigenous style. I think this was nixed because Arendelle is being built in some of the theme parks around the world and so that wouldn't synergize with this new castle design. Elsa's character development and journey is pretty divisive amongst Frozen fans, many who feel she was OOC, so I don't know if that answers your question but most Frozen fans weren't happy. I think the only ones who didn't mind were hardcore Elsa stans who liked the central focus on her in the film plus the rather ambiguous mythology also being shaped around her character.

I really liked the new Maleficent minifig we got in the Villains set, so I wouldn't mind seeing some old characters updated too. And that makes sense that maybe it's the gold reflecting printing that's just shining and so it makes the lining not fully visible in that particular shot.

That's very sweet of you to want to share your designs with everyone. I'm sure there would be quite a bit of demand, certainly in this forum!

On 9/11/2024 at 12:43 PM, OttoRiver said:

I'll be honest, I'll be buying it for the figures only. I don't expect I'll even build the actual set. I agree, Mickey's face doesn't look great but I appreciate that they chose to give us new figures as opposed to repeated ones.

Also decided to get a Beast minidoll head and make a custom Beast with what I had on hand until we can get a true one from Lego. Didn't want Belle to get here without a Beast.

This is very cleverly done! Using Dale's body is rather ingenious. 

[hikouki]

On 9/11/2024 at 9:22 AM, roselemontea said:

I can't be the only one on the fence on buying the set? I'm not really interested in the minifigs apart from Belle and Lilo. I don't have Sebastian and Flounder - so that would be a plus to buy it. I also really like the brooms. With the rumours of a BATB set I might just wait and see for a Belle minifig.. but having the centrepiece Mickey look so poor makes me not want to buy it 

 

On 9/11/2024 at 10:43 AM, OttoRiver said:

I'll be honest, I'll be buying it for the figures only. I don't expect I'll even build the actual set. I agree, Mickey's face doesn't look great but I appreciate that they chose to give us new figures as opposed to repeated ones.

...

Sometimes it makes more sense to buy the set only for minifigs if there are several in there that your are chasing... sometimes they pop up on BL with jacked up prices, then you have to add the shipping cost.

[TheFriedChimken]

11 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

You're welcome. I'm just glad you like the set so much that you want it.

I'm wondering now if anyone else has recolored the new Disney castle. I know with the Hogwarts modular castle sets that some people did recolor the roofs to make them grey instead of sand-green.

For what it's worth, I did enjoy the characters in Raya. The cast of characters makes a nice little family unit by the end, but online I mostly see people say there wasn't enough time to spend with them to feel anything so that was the popular consensus. And what I do agree on is that watching Raya, I couldn't help but feel that it needed to be a TV series as the plotline was scripted more like episodes in a seasonal format. So while the characters aren't the most fleshed out, they do have their charm. But I definitely liked it more than most people did which was the opposite in my case with Encanto.

I'm so glad you enjoyed the live-action Jungle Book! I agree with everything you said. I found Mowgli a lot more interesting in this version since he's given an actual personality rather than petulant little boy in the first one. Feels a lot more sympathetic especially since he has an actual emotional connection to his family, the wolves. That's something about the original I found hard to believe that he leaves his wolf family but he never thinks about them or mentions them ever again. He meets Baloo and by the next day, his only emotional connection on leaving the jungle is Baloo. I didn't have an issue with Christopher Walken's talk-singing but I definitely felt that ScarJo was miscast. Her Kaa did not work for me and I wish they had cast someone else. 

I really like the fur on the Snow Queen designs from concept art and I know the white ferret coat you mean. I think that's partly why I don't like Elsa in the fur because I feel she isn't good enough to wear it like the original Snow Queen lol.

I wish I could properly answer your question if all the focus on Elsa in Frozen II pays off or not, but tbh the movie's plot is so muddled that it's really hard to even come up with an answer. The storyline tries to introduce a bunch of mythos but none of it goes anywhere and a lot of it just seems like mumbo jumbo. To give you an idea of how convoluted the plot is without sharing spoilers, Elsa's motivation is that she hears a voice telling her to journey to a mystical land where that voice is waiting for her. At the end, she has a song which is basically this movie's Let It Go. The filmmakers confirmed in the Frozen II making-of documentary that when they were writing the song, they realized they never came up with who the voice is. It was never actually important to the story, it was just a plot device/mystery box. And watching the movie, you realize that more or less everything that happens really has no significance attached to it and most viewers came out still confused about what exactly they saw.

On top of it, a lot of things got changed last minute after negative test screenings so there's even more ambiguity because most of the significant things that were supposed to happen were cut out. Olaf was supposed to die originally. Obviously this had to be changed because how can they sell merchandise for him then. In one test screening, Elsa was supposed to sacrifice herself but the ending would hint she'd return in the sequel. Apparently Bob Iger nixed this because he wasn't going to kill off Disney's biggest cash cow. And Arendelle was supposed to be destroyed in a massive flood due to its participation in colonialism, but the castle would be rebuilt in the indigenous style. I think this was nixed because Arendelle is being built in some of the theme parks around the world and so that wouldn't synergize with this new castle design. Elsa's character development and journey is pretty divisive amongst Frozen fans, many who feel she was OOC, so I don't know if that answers your question but most Frozen fans weren't happy. I think the only ones who didn't mind were hardcore Elsa stans who liked the central focus on her in the film plus the rather ambiguous mythology also being shaped around her character.

I really liked the new Maleficent minifig we got in the Villains set, so I wouldn't mind seeing some old characters updated too. And that makes sense that maybe it's the gold reflecting printing that's just shining and so it makes the lining not fully visible in that particular shot.

That's very sweet of you to want to share your designs with everyone. I'm sure there would be quite a bit of demand, certainly in this forum! 

I might look around and see if there are in fact any examples of people recolouring the castle - that way I can tell if it's worth it. I do remember seeing a fair few people change the green roof of Hogwarts, but I honestly liked it and felt it made the whole thing pop.

I might give Raya a watch then - at least I'm prepared for being somewhat rushed. You have made it sound intriguing so I would like to give it a go.

Mowgli was indeed easy to enjoy by being both charming and cheeky - how fun! I do love how they fleshed him out and absolutely agree with having needed to do so with the wolves. I also like how they made him more capable with skills and compassion-induced bravery. I agree Scarlet was a miscast; she really should have been more alluring, sly, and intimidating. Random, but I think someone like Eva Green would work - drawing from her Angelique Bouchard role, she uses this perfect yet subtle slithering tone with swirls pf temptation and possessive intent in her voice.

That makes so much sense with how you feel about Elsa and the fur haha. It isn't in her character to pull if off, but the dress itself is better than the other when I just focus on the outfits.

That all sounds like an utter mess... too much short planning, lack of execution, and over-protection. Very much doesn't sound like the chaos was all worth the sole focus on a character whom Disney cares too much about monetary value than doing something interesting with them...

I adored the minifigures we got in the villain icons - true perfection, but I'd be open to genie Jafar needing to have used a red variation of Genie's head/hair piece.

Thank you! I just feel bummed about what I at least consider a dip in attention to detail with Lego, as I'm sure others feel as well. Ideally, if I had the money and resources, I'd enjoy working towards creating minifigures for all sorts of properties so people can get the designs that want and are often highly demanded.

[Aramar]

13 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

I wish I could properly answer your question if all the focus on Elsa in Frozen II pays off or not, but tbh the movie's plot is so muddled that it's really hard to even come up with an answer. The storyline tries to introduce a bunch of mythos but none of it goes anywhere and a lot of it just seems like mumbo jumbo. To give you an idea of how convoluted the plot is without sharing spoilers, Elsa's motivation is that she hears a voice telling her to journey to a mystical land where that voice is waiting for her. At the end, she has a song which is basically this movie's Let It Go. The filmmakers confirmed in the Frozen II making-of documentary that when they were writing the song, they realized they never came up with who the voice is. It was never actually important to the story, it was just a plot device/mystery box. And watching the movie, you realize that more or less everything that happens really has no significance attached to it and most viewers came out still confused about what exactly they saw.

 

12 minutes ago, TheFriedChimken said:

That all sounds like an utter mess... too much short planning, lack of execution, and over-protection. Very much doesn't sound like the chaos was all worth the sole focus on a character whom Disney cares too much about monetary value than doing something interesting with them...

The good thing is that Disney is completely aware of this and they are trying to address all the questions we have in Frozen 3 and 4. They have explicitly said that they know we want to know more about Anna and Kristoff, but also about Olaf and even Hans. They are taking their time to make the 2 new movies and working on them at the same time to try to answer as many things as possible Fingers crossed! 

[JeanGreyForever]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:46 AM, TheFriedChimken said:

I might look around and see if there are in fact any examples of people recolouring the castle - that way I can tell if it's worth it. I do remember seeing a fair few people change the green roof of Hogwarts, but I honestly liked it and felt it made the whole thing pop.

I might give Raya a watch then - at least I'm prepared for being somewhat rushed. You have made it sound intriguing so I would like to give it a go.

Mowgli was indeed easy to enjoy by being both charming and cheeky - how fun! I do love how they fleshed him out and absolutely agree with having needed to do so with the wolves. I also like how they made him more capable with skills and compassion-induced bravery. I agree Scarlet was a miscast; she really should have been more alluring, sly, and intimidating. Random, but I think someone like Eva Green would work - drawing from her Angelique Bouchard role, she uses this perfect yet subtle slithering tone with swirls pf temptation and possessive intent in her voice.

That makes so much sense with how you feel about Elsa and the fur haha. It isn't in her character to pull if off, but the dress itself is better than the other when I just focus on the outfits.

That all sounds like an utter mess... too much short planning, lack of execution, and over-protection. Very much doesn't sound like the chaos was all worth the sole focus on a character whom Disney cares too much about monetary value than doing something interesting with them...

I adored the minifigures we got in the villain icons - true perfection, but I'd be open to genie Jafar needing to have used a red variation of Genie's head/hair piece.

Thank you! I just feel bummed about what I at least consider a dip in attention to detail with Lego, as I'm sure others feel as well. Ideally, if I had the money and resources, I'd enjoy working towards creating minifigures for all sorts of properties so people can get the designs that want and are often highly demanded.

I'm sorta nostalgic for the sand green Hogwarts roofs myself even if the dark grey roofs objectively look better and are more accurate. Also there were so many modular sets that I thought it wasn't worth the effort of buying so many pieces to swap the roof colors myself. I'll make do looking at the videos of the people who did put that money and effort in.

I can't say I would recommend Raya as much as I did the live-action Jungle Book. But it's worth a watch at least once to see if any part of it resonates with you or if like most, the movie feels more like a time-pass.

I also really liked the part about Mowgli using his skills as a human to be able to make inventions and all sorts of traps that animals couldn't do without opposable thumbs. Disney tried to do this with Belle as well, by making her a budding inventor instead of Maurice, but it doesn't end up leading to anything. At least Mowgli uses his skills to save the day. Belle's skills are brought up once and that's it. Yes, Eva Green would have been a much better choice than Scarlet. I think Scarlet was only cast because of her association with Disney through the MCU at that time. If Jungle Book had been a Tim Burton movie, then Eva Green would have been a shoe-in.

Yes, I agree with you there! It's a rather luxurious dress taken in by itself.

The movie really was a mess and I feel like the Frozen fandom still hasn't fully recovered from it yet. A lot of the momentum the franchise had was killed off by the sequel. We'll see if parts 3 and 4 help restore some of that goodwill.

I was really upset that Genie Jafar was lacking the headpiece. It takes away consistency because if you put Genie and Genie Jafar's minifigs together, they just look off. I guess the Genie headpiece mold was retired and they didn't want to bring it back. For consistency sake, I've removed Genie's headpiece and given him the same hairstyle as Genie Jafar.

Lego is already so expensive so when we get subpar products, it's even more disappointing. That's one of my issues with so many of the recent minifigures since last year, that so many of them are great and others are almost there but lacking in something or the other which keeps them from being perfect. I don't think this is just a Disney thing because I see the Marvel fans have the same gripes and sometimes the issues are worse over there. But Disney minifigs are already so rare that it's more disappointing because there's less of a chance of seeing a particular character redone. Only Steamboat Mickey and Willie have managed to have three separate minifigs so far.

On 9/13/2024 at 6:03 AM, Aramar said:

The good thing is that Disney is completely aware of this and they are trying to address all the questions we have in Frozen 3 and 4. They have explicitly said that they know we want to know more about Anna and Kristoff, but also about Olaf and even Hans. They are taking their time to make the 2 new movies and working on them at the same time to try to answer as many things as possible Fingers crossed! 

I'm not going to hold my breath if I'm being honest. Jennifer Lee's Frozen films so far have been very messy and I don't see that changing with the next two. They backtrack a lot on what they claim they'll do. After the first Frozen movie, when fans would ask about Elsa's origin and why she has powers, Disney said there was never going to be an origin story. Yet Frozen II tried to do exactly that. Santino Fontana also said he was promised Frozen II would focus on him and grant him a redemption arc, but in the final movie, he's not even included outside of some jokes about him. I know they're stating that Frozen III could bring back Hans but I'll believe it when I see it. 

[TheFriedChimken]

On 9/13/2024 at 9:03 PM, Aramar said:

The good thing is that Disney is completely aware of this and they are trying to address all the questions we have in Frozen 3 and 4. They have explicitly said that they know we want to know more about Anna and Kristoff, but also about Olaf and even Hans. They are taking their time to make the 2 new movies and working on them at the same time to try to answer as many things as possible Fingers crossed! 

Fingers crossed to that. I might wait though and see how well received they are by fans in case Disney continues to go with the wrong focus. I just don't want Frozen spoiled for me, and I don't trust Disney at the moment when it comes to toying with existing and already perfect films.

5 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

I'm sorta nostalgic for the sand green Hogwarts roofs myself even if the dark grey roofs objectively look better and are more accurate. Also there were so many modular sets that I thought it wasn't worth the effort of buying so many pieces to swap the roof colors myself. I'll make do looking at the videos of the people who did put that money and effort in.

I can't say I would recommend Raya as much as I did the live-action Jungle Book. But it's worth a watch at least once to see if any part of it resonates with you or if like most, the movie feels more like a time-pass.

I also really liked the part about Mowgli using his skills as a human to be able to make inventions and all sorts of traps that animals couldn't do without opposable thumbs. Disney tried to do this with Belle as well, by making her a budding inventor instead of Maurice, but it doesn't end up leading to anything. At least Mowgli uses his skills to save the day. Belle's skills are brought up once and that's it. Yes, Eva Green would have been a much better choice than Scarlet. I think Scarlet was only cast because of her association with Disney through the MCU at that time. If Jungle Book had been a Tim Burton movie, then Eva Green would have been a shoe-in.

Yes, I agree with you there! It's a rather luxurious dress taken in by itself.

The movie really was a mess and I feel like the Frozen fandom still hasn't fully recovered from it yet. A lot of the momentum the franchise had was killed off by the sequel. We'll see if parts 3 and 4 help restore some of that goodwill.

I was really upset that Genie Jafar was lacking the headpiece. It takes away consistency because if you put Genie and Genie Jafar's minifigs together, they just look off. I guess the Genie headpiece mold was retired and they didn't want to bring it back. For consistency sake, I've removed Genie's headpiece and given him the same hairstyle as Genie Jafar.

Lego is already so expensive so when we get subpar products, it's even more disappointing. That's one of my issues with so many of the recent minifigures since last year, that so many of them are great and others are almost there but lacking in something or the other which keeps them from being perfect. I don't think this is just a Disney thing because I see the Marvel fans have the same gripes and sometimes the issues are worse over there. But Disney minifigs are already so rare that it's more disappointing because there's less of a chance of seeing a particular character redone. Only Steamboat Mickey and Willie have managed to have three separate minifigs so far.

I'm not going to hold my breath if I'm being honest. Jennifer Lee's Frozen films so far have been very messy and I don't see that changing with the next two. They backtrack a lot on what they claim they'll do. After the first Frozen movie, when fans would ask about Elsa's origin and why she has powers, Disney said there was never going to be an origin story. Yet Frozen II tried to do exactly that. Santino Fontana also said he was promised Frozen II would focus on him and grant him a redemption arc, but in the final movie, he's not even included outside of some jokes about him. I know they're stating that Frozen III could bring back Hans but I'll believe it when I see it. 

I absolutely get you with both the nostalgia and there being too many modulars to work with to change it all haha.

I might maybe throw Raya in the background then while I do something, that way if something catches my interest I can fully tune in. If nothing draws me in, at least it was something to occupy me while doing a task.

I do like that comparison you've made between Mowgli and Belle - I think I may have made an subconscious comparison myself and that's why I really like what they did. I remember hating they did that for Belle - not because I didn't think she deserved to be handy, but because they did absolutely nothing with it and therefore added nothing to her character. Like for me the human skills fleshed out Mowgli more; yes he was welcomed in the jungle, but he is capable of thriving outside of it and into the human world - which opens the fun debate as to whether he belongs in the village because he is much like other humans, or should he stay in the jungle to use his skills to help the animals.

I'm hoping they kinda leave it at Frozen 2. I know Frozen 3 is confirmed, but I think it is unnecessary - you can image what I think about the fourth lol. My feelings on is perfectly match yours. The second sounds so clunky that if by not even watching it I feel like I dodged a bullet, 3 and 4 do not sound any more promising.

It is a shame that there is no consistency between Genie and genie Jafar, I might actuall try what you've said and convert Genie to look like Jafar with the hair. If they bring that piece out later for a new Genie though and they just did genie Jafar dirty, I'mma be really annoyed...

Oh I 100% agree with you on price and the quality to receive. I know it's DC but it's funny that with the Batman 1 sets, just after Lego started to recover from finanical loss, we managed to get minifigures that were all unique with the best efforts given with the technology at the time. Same with Lego Batman 2 and even TLBM. All unique, all given great effort, and all beloved by fans. The prices keep going up yet there's a dip in what we are receiving for minifigures and so forth across all properties. Even still, throwing in an extra $5 to add some leg printing and so forth to an already $90 set is nothing considering that minifigures and parts are being recycled to a point where they are just pure lazy and avoiding opportunities for us to receive new/updated figures. 

[JeanGreyForever]

18 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

I might maybe throw Raya in the background then while I do something, that way if something catches my interest I can fully tune in. If nothing draws me in, at least it was something to occupy me while doing a task.

I do like that comparison you've made between Mowgli and Belle - I think I may have made an subconscious comparison myself and that's why I really like what they did. I remember hating they did that for Belle - not because I didn't think she deserved to be handy, but because they did absolutely nothing with it and therefore added nothing to her character. Like for me the human skills fleshed out Mowgli more; yes he was welcomed in the jungle, but he is capable of thriving outside of it and into the human world - which opens the fun debate as to whether he belongs in the village because he is much like other humans, or should he stay in the jungle to use his skills to help the animals.

I'm hoping they kinda leave it at Frozen 2. I know Frozen 3 is confirmed, but I think it is unnecessary - you can image what I think about the fourth lol. My feelings on is perfectly match yours. The second sounds so clunky that if by not even watching it I feel like I dodged a bullet, 3 and 4 do not sound any more promising.

It is a shame that there is no consistency between Genie and genie Jafar, I might actuall try what you've said and convert Genie to look like Jafar with the hair. If they bring that piece out later for a new Genie though and they just did genie Jafar dirty, I'mma be really annoyed...

Oh I 100% agree with you on price and the quality to receive. I know it's DC but it's funny that with the Batman 1 sets, just after Lego started to recover from finanical loss, we managed to get minifigures that were all unique with the best efforts given with the technology at the time. Same with Lego Batman 2 and even TLBM. All unique, all given great effort, and all beloved by fans. The prices keep going up yet there's a dip in what we are receiving for minifigures and so forth across all properties. Even still, throwing in an extra $5 to add some leg printing and so forth to an already $90 set is nothing considering that minifigures and parts are being recycled to a point where they are just pure lazy and avoiding opportunities for us to receive new/updated figures. 

I saw the reason JLo Netflix movie was being labeled the perfect movie for household chores when you need something to watch but are only half paying attention. I can see Raya being like that.

I remember the promotions for BATB heavily focused on how this Belle was a better character because she had a hobby of tinkering and this made her more feminist and empowered...except the final movie doesn't bother to do anything with that whatsoever. I thought when Belle is locked up in the cellar that she makes some invention to help her escape, but no. So it really was just something they added to brag about. With Mowgli, the change felt more organic especially since the film ends with him not going to the village after all.

Frozen is too successful for Disney for them to stop making films for unfortunately. And especially after all their original films flopped, there's a reason they announced all the sequels this year like Toy Story 5, Incredibles 3, Frozen 3 and 4, Zootopia 2, etc. At least with the Pixar films, we're guaranteed more minifigure sets and honestly I prefer those classic Pixar properties over the newer Disney stuff. I'm just surprised Finding Nemo 3 wasn't announced. I'd be shocked if they aren't working on Inside Out 3 as well, but probably feel it's too soon to announce. Back to Frozen, for a film sequel that was in development for as long as it was (basically 5-6 years), the fact that it was so confusing doesn't lead me to feel very optimistic for 2 more sequels. Especially since those sequels were announced back to back so you know they're going to draw out whatever story they have for 2 movies, whether or not they have sufficient enough material to do so.

I'll post a pic a little while later to show you how Genie looks without the headpiece but using Genie Jafar's hair.

Yeah, those early Batman minifigures were really good. TLBM minifigs especially seemed really detailed and excellent with a lot of new molds. I think when Lego DC sets were at their peak, they were given a lot more attention and detail than Marvel got. I can understand that the DC brand has been failing in recent years, hence the lack of new sets, but I thought Batman was one of those evergreen franchises which would always sell. I'm surprised they don't do more regular sets with him outside of collector's edition sets and just throw in more peripheral DC characters into those Batman sets.

[JeanGreyForever]

This is Genie without the headpiece to match Jafar.

 

[Jarreth2]

I wish they’d given Jafar Genie the ears to match the Genie, Genie looks strange without his ears after all this time 😁

[JeanGreyForever]

Same. Especially since the pointed ears always gave Genie Jafar a very devilish look in the movies which is missing on the final minifig.

[hikouki]

14 hours ago, Jarreth2 said:

I wish they’d given Jafar Genie the ears to match the Genie, Genie looks strange without his ears after all this time 😁

 

4 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Same. Especially since the pointed ears always gave Genie Jafar a very devilish look in the movies which is missing on the final minifig.

Guys, we should just be grateful that Genie Jaafar got made... Remember how they reduced Sebastian to an accessory crab without any prints?

What if they had reduced him to a smoke (snake piece) emanating from a lamp? LOL

[TheFriedChimken]

On 9/16/2024 at 10:05 AM, JeanGreyForever said:

I saw the reason JLo Netflix movie was being labeled the perfect movie for household chores when you need something to watch but are only half paying attention. I can see Raya being like that.

I remember the promotions for BATB heavily focused on how this Belle was a better character because she had a hobby of tinkering and this made her more feminist and empowered...except the final movie doesn't bother to do anything with that whatsoever. I thought when Belle is locked up in the cellar that she makes some invention to help her escape, but no. So it really was just something they added to brag about. With Mowgli, the change felt more organic especially since the film ends with him not going to the village after all.

Frozen is too successful for Disney for them to stop making films for unfortunately. And especially after all their original films flopped, there's a reason they announced all the sequels this year like Toy Story 5, Incredibles 3, Frozen 3 and 4, Zootopia 2, etc. At least with the Pixar films, we're guaranteed more minifigure sets and honestly I prefer those classic Pixar properties over the newer Disney stuff. I'm just surprised Finding Nemo 3 wasn't announced. I'd be shocked if they aren't working on Inside Out 3 as well, but probably feel it's too soon to announce. Back to Frozen, for a film sequel that was in development for as long as it was (basically 5-6 years), the fact that it was so confusing doesn't lead me to feel very optimistic for 2 more sequels. Especially since those sequels were announced back to back so you know they're going to draw out whatever story they have for 2 movies, whether or not they have sufficient enough material to do so.

I'll post a pic a little while later to show you how Genie looks without the headpiece but using Genie Jafar's hair.

Yeah, those early Batman minifigures were really good. TLBM minifigs especially seemed really detailed and excellent with a lot of new molds. I think when Lego DC sets were at their peak, they were given a lot more attention and detail than Marvel got. I can understand that the DC brand has been failing in recent years, hence the lack of new sets, but I thought Batman was one of those evergreen franchises which would always sell. I'm surprised they don't do more regular sets with him outside of collector's edition sets and just throw in more peripheral DC characters into those Batman sets.

Sorry for my delayed reply, been busy catching up on what I've missed now having fully recovered from being sick.

That was a bit of a hard burn for Raya hahaha 😆

I actually thought the same thing about Belle using her tinkering skills to get out of the dungeon. I even hoped they would make it relevant to her accessing the West Wing and participatiom in defensing against the attack on the castle. Wasted opportunity for a character with so much potential. I totally agree with Mowgli being superior in that aspect and I have nothing to complain about with what they did for him.

I'm not a fan towards sequels in general to be honest, so I'll admit I'm always going to be against them - but these sequels sound more as actual wack than me being me. A second film - that's fine. A third, if you reall must - but fourth and so on? I don't know, especially when you've announced a fourth in conjunction with a third... Yes I understand the fact that they make money, just seems like it"# too much though and will burn people out.

I understand with DC getting the treatment it is getting now in terms of variation due to lack of demand, but Disney is very much relevant today as are their characters. So many names and faces holding so many memories for children and adults alike - so I don't get it when Lego does the slack approach of avoiding characters or effortful designs. It's not major things, but there are little bits and peices that, for me at least, I feel its glaring because there is building amount of these minor annoyances.

On 9/16/2024 at 5:57 PM, JeanGreyForever said:

This is Genie without the headpiece to match Jafar.

 

I do actually like this a lot - sure hair is slightly long but, to be honest, I find it just so funky and creative that it has more charm than the original piece. Maybe because the original piece seems more obscure to me due to not seeing it with anything else besides Genie.

13 hours ago, hikouki said:

Guys, we should just be grateful that Genie Jaafar got made... Remember how they reduced Sebastian to an accessory crab without any prints?

What if they had reduced him to a smoke (snake piece) emanating from a lamp? LOL

Valid 🤣

In that sense, I think I've jinxed our chances with a lot of characters 🫣

Technically Lego has somewhat done that with Genie unless they bring out that old hairpiece or a new minifigure design. Within Disney 100 he is just a lamp with a transparent blue feather. I'm aware this was more so an easter egg but it's amusing that your joking around reflects some truth.

[JeanGreyForever]

10 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

Sorry for my delayed reply, been busy catching up on what I've missed now having fully recovered from being sick.

That was a bit of a hard burn for Raya hahaha 😆

I actually thought the same thing about Belle using her tinkering skills to get out of the dungeon. I even hoped they would make it relevant to her accessing the West Wing and participatiom in defensing against the attack on the castle. Wasted opportunity for a character with so much potential. I totally agree with Mowgli being superior in that aspect and I have nothing to complain about with what they did for him.

I'm not a fan towards sequels in general to be honest, so I'll admit I'm always going to be against them - but these sequels sound more as actual wack than me being me. A second film - that's fine. A third, if you reall must - but fourth and so on? I don't know, especially when you've announced a fourth in conjunction with a third... Yes I understand the fact that they make money, just seems like it"# too much though and will burn people out.

I understand with DC getting the treatment it is getting now in terms of variation due to lack of demand, but Disney is very much relevant today as are their characters. So many names and faces holding so many memories for children and adults alike - so I don't get it when Lego does the slack approach of avoiding characters or effortful designs. It's not major things, but there are little bits and peices that, for me at least, I feel its glaring because there is building amount of these minor annoyances.

I do actually like this a lot - sure hair is slightly long but, to be honest, I find it just so funky and creative that it has more charm than the original piece. Maybe because the original piece seems more obscure to me due to not seeing it with anything else besides Genie.

That's all right. I'm glad you're better now!

Lol yes, I couldn't help myself by making that Raya/JLo comparison.

The fact that we went from Mowgli to Belle felt like a regression. Maybe if BATB had come out first, Belle to Mowgli would have felt more like a natural progression where she has a skill that doesn't amount to anything in the end and then the next movie actually builds on that skill. But with the actual release order, it makes more evident that Belle is a downgrade.

I think with Frozen, parts 3 and 4 are meant to be a two-parter. Although I don't know when Frozen IV is coming out but Frozen III comes out in 2027 so we'll see if there's a year gap or longer. Disney doesn't usually plan multiple sequels at once for their animated films so this is new territory for them. But what often happens with 2-parter films is that the first part is really just set-up and doesn't always work as its own standalone movie which I can see being the case here. Even the upcoming Moana 2 was originally a Disney+ series which was at the last minute rehauled into a feature film. Which probably also explains the lack of sets.

I don't get it either. Maybe Disney or Lego prefers to have Disney sets feel more special if they're only released occasionally, like an event. Perhaps there's also the fear of flooding the market with too many similar sets because the average consumer won't get them all if they're released back to back. I remember a lot of people thought the Snow White cottage wouldn't happen since Lego already released a Disney cottage with the Hocus Pocus set. Similarly, I'm even surprised that the Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas sets will overlap in terms of shelf life since they both cater towards the 90s nostalgia demographic.

I think the original Genie headpiece was slightly jarring because it was obviously a headpiece that didn't mesh enough with his head. He probably should have gotten a new molded head. I did like the headpiece though and wish they would have retained it for Genie Jafar. But the lack of consistency bothered me which is why I resorted to just removing the headpiece from Genie. I'm glad you like the change though. It took me a while to get used to at first because Genie felt naked without his ears and bulging headpiece.

[TheFriedChimken]

19 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

That's all right. I'm glad you're better now!

Lol yes, I couldn't help myself by making that Raya/JLo comparison.

The fact that we went from Mowgli to Belle felt like a regression. Maybe if BATB had come out first, Belle to Mowgli would have felt more like a natural progression where she has a skill that doesn't amount to anything in the end and then the next movie actually builds on that skill. But with the actual release order, it makes more evident that Belle is a downgrade.

I think with Frozen, parts 3 and 4 are meant to be a two-parter. Although I don't know when Frozen IV is coming out but Frozen III comes out in 2027 so we'll see if there's a year gap or longer. Disney doesn't usually plan multiple sequels at once for their animated films so this is new territory for them. But what often happens with 2-parter films is that the first part is really just set-up and doesn't always work as its own standalone movie which I can see being the case here. Even the upcoming Moana 2 was originally a Disney+ series which was at the last minute rehauled into a feature film. Which probably also explains the lack of sets.

I don't get it either. Maybe Disney or Lego prefers to have Disney sets feel more special if they're only released occasionally, like an event. Perhaps there's also the fear of flooding the market with too many similar sets because the average consumer won't get them all if they're released back to back. I remember a lot of people thought the Snow White cottage wouldn't happen since Lego already released a Disney cottage with the Hocus Pocus set. Similarly, I'm even surprised that the Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas sets will overlap in terms of shelf life since they both cater towards the 90s nostalgia demographic.

I think the original Genie headpiece was slightly jarring because it was obviously a headpiece that didn't mesh enough with his head. He probably should have gotten a new molded head. I did like the headpiece though and wish they would have retained it for Genie Jafar. But the lack of consistency bothered me which is why I resorted to just removing the headpiece from Genie. I'm glad you like the change though. It took me a while to get used to at first because Genie felt naked without his ears and bulging headpiece.

I have to totally agree with your perspective on BATB - certainly wouldn't have felt as bothered by its errors if released before Jungle Book. I just don't understand how you get it so wrong with live-action after live-action when having started with two amazing live-action retellings being Cinderella and Jungle Book. Alice in Wonderland is fantastic too, but I haven't counted it because it's more of a continuation of sorts than a retelling - brilliant nonetheless.

Makes sense for the new Frozens to be a two parter if it's going to announce the two films. Sounds like a cool concept but I can't really recall Disney having done this for animation, so if Frozen 2 was clunky I can imagine how they're going to handle experimenting a story split between two films. I heard about the Moana TV show being changed to a film to - not a decision I'm crazy about, but each to their own.

I get your point with Lego maybe wanting to creating scarcity with Disney sets, but it just feels too scarce. I think it's possible to drop a few more small yet not as grand sets here and there while still holding up for bigger and better sets to be introduced. At the moment though, it seems like the smaller sets are stuck as buildable display pieces - take the mini Simba, Inside Out, Duos. I was hoping when I saw the Up set and Peter Pan they would have gone more in that direction with locations and scenery.

I think another thing thay might make the original Genie head a bit weird is the ears in addition to the headpiece not sitting flush or almost seamless to the head. Regardless, I've honestly adjusted to your design instantly - it's just so cartoony and fun. Although I am always one to push for accuracy, I like my consistency too and I really prefer what you've done to keep everything more in line with each other.

[JeanGreyForever]

5 hours ago, TheFriedChimken said:

I have to totally agree with your perspective on BATB - certainly wouldn't have felt as bothered by its errors if released before Jungle Book. I just don't understand how you get it so wrong with live-action after live-action when having started with two amazing live-action retellings being Cinderella and Jungle Book. Alice in Wonderland is fantastic too, but I haven't counted it because it's more of a continuation of sorts than a retelling - brilliant nonetheless.

Makes sense for the new Frozens to be a two parter if it's going to announce the two films. Sounds like a cool concept but I can't really recall Disney having done this for animation, so if Frozen 2 was clunky I can imagine how they're going to handle experimenting a story split between two films. I heard about the Moana TV show being changed to a film to - not a decision I'm crazy about, but each to their own.

I get your point with Lego maybe wanting to creating scarcity with Disney sets, but it just feels too scarce. I think it's possible to drop a few more small yet not as grand sets here and there while still holding up for bigger and better sets to be introduced. At the moment though, it seems like the smaller sets are stuck as buildable display pieces - take the mini Simba, Inside Out, Duos. I was hoping when I saw the Up set and Peter Pan they would have gone more in that direction with locations and scenery.

I think another thing thay might make the original Genie head a bit weird is the ears in addition to the headpiece not sitting flush or almost seamless to the head. Regardless, I've honestly adjusted to your design instantly - it's just so cartoony and fun. Although I am always one to push for accuracy, I like my consistency too and I really prefer what you've done to keep everything more in line with each other.

If you watch the interviews with the directors, cast, and crew for the movies you mentioned (Cinderella, Jungle Book, Alice), you'll see that they absolutely gush over the original films. Particularly for Cinderella and Jungle Book, everyone involved in those remakes made clear that they love the original films and wanted these remakes to be a loving tribute to them. With the Renaissance movies like BATB and TLM, it seems like they couldn't stop talking about how flawed the original films were and how they needed to be fixed and upgraded. Snow White sadly has gone the latter route. The remakes starting with BATB have all been about "improving" these classics for a new audience, rather than serving as a loving ode. Although it happened even before BATB, like with Maleficent where they pretended it would be more feminist and empowered. BTW, an interesting fact is that Disney wanted Emma Watson for Cinderella. She refused because she said she had no personal connection to Cinderella and didn't think she could play her. I have issues with her Belle but I applaud her for not taking a character she doesn't like and trying to force her to fit her vision like what's happening with Snow White now.

Sequelitis is the path Disney is choosing now. We'll see how well it works out but I guess it's a safer bet than their original works lately which have really been awful. You can't sell their merchandise even heavily discounted. 

I agree with you there that I think Lego could be doing a lot more with the Disney franchise. Not just big sets but a lot of smaller sets too. I think they've completely given up the Mickey Mouse themed sets they used to make. I wasn't that impressed with the sets they did make but they at least had some good things going for them. I always wanted Lego to make a Lego Toontown like in the Disney Parks. Sets for Mickey's house, Minnie's house, Donald's houseboat, Chip and Tale's treehouse, Scrooge's money bin, etc. You could put them all together to build your own Toontown. I'm guessing the Up and Peter Pan sets were only being made for Disney's 100th Anniversary and there was never a plan for more similar sets like more dioramas. I know people thought the train set with parade floats would mean more sets like that but I always had a feeling that was going to be a one-off.

Yeah, the fact that the Genie headpiece wasn't seamless with his head was something I saw a lot of people complain about. I can see why they dropped it then. Thank you again, it really wasn't anything at all inventive on my part. I just copied what they did with Genie Jafar so they could both stand next to each other and not look off. In general, I prefer accuracy too which is why I did wish they had made the headpiece for Genie Jafar but alas, that doesn't seem likely now.

[DisneyLego]

So looks like the Disney castle is finally switching over to new packaging vs the current 100 years “limited edition” version.

any chance there are changes to the set itself? hoping there’s not but would rather know now before prices skyrocket