42163 Heavy-Duty Bulldozer

[pow]

15 hours ago, Mr Jos said:

So, as in all small Lego technic sets?

Damn, i only knew the Telehandler 42133. The mechanism there is a lot more sophisticated.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Dont you find it funny that a polybag that costs less has more functions and playability?

[1gor]

14 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Dont you find it funny that a polybag that costs less has more functions and playability?

 

Polybag is cheaper to make than cardbox...

Edited December 3, 2023 by 1gor

[anyUser]

12 hours ago, Mr Jos said:

Those do NOT work well with chains. ... and they skip the gears much more easily.

I cannot confirm this for my build of 42163:
I replaced by (using https://brickset.com/parts/design-6562) on one side: One track piece less is needed then. By qualitative rating I found that the setup using the red gear has less resistance when pushing the model or moving the track by hand. It also appears to be less 'jerky'.

[R0Sch]

1 hour ago, anyUser said:

I cannot confirm this for my build of 42163:
I replaced by (using https://brickset.com/parts/design-6562) on one side: One track piece less is needed then. By qualitative rating I found that the setup using the red gear has less resistance when pushing the model or moving the track by hand. It also appears to be less 'jerky'.

Thanks for testing and confirming that, my fellow brickshelf user. :)

[JaBaCaDaBra]

23 hours ago, Lego Tom said:

I said a month ago: "At a price of $10.99 I'm not too excited.", so I'm not surprised. In today's economy, we shouldn't have expected $10.99 would produce much and it didn't.

Most expensive parts here are box and instructions, unavoidable but actually an environmental shame.
Besides that they missed a chance for a budget xmas present.
Who needs this in March?

Edited December 3, 2023 by JaBaCaDaBra

[Mr Jos]

6 hours ago, anyUser said:

I cannot confirm this for my build of 42163:
I replaced by (using https://brickset.com/parts/design-6562) on one side: One track piece less is needed then. By qualitative rating I found that the setup using the red gear has less resistance when pushing the model or moving the track by hand. It also appears to be less 'jerky'.

That's exactly my point, by needing 1 more link, it means the clutch gear pushes the links out of the teeth. My point was for driving these chains by a motor, if you use a clutch gear as idler wheel it will make an awfull noise from teeth jumping. I can know this, as I had no other way than use it in my chain conveyors in my big warehouse. It works, but it "clicks".

[R0Sch]

2 hours ago, Mr Jos said:

That's exactly my point, by needing 1 more link, it means the clutch gear pushes the links out of the teeth. My point was for driving these chains by a motor, if you use a clutch gear as idler wheel it will make an awfull noise from teeth jumping. I can know this, as I had no other way than use it in my chain conveyors in my big warehouse. It works, but it "clicks".

Since we are not talking about a motorized set it's safe to say it works just as good, if not better, with the clutch gears for manually pushing the tracks around. You are right about gear contact pattern and it should not be used under heavy load.

[Timorzelorzworz]

Model titles are getting more confusing. What exactly is heavy-duty on this small cute set.

[Maaboo the Witch]

33 minutes ago, Timorzelorzworz said:

Model titles are getting more confusing. What exactly is heavy-duty on this small cute set.

The type of bulldozer. It's clearly based on the D11, and bulldozers do not come more heavy-duty than that.

[Saruzeufel]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:23 PM, Maaboo the Witch said:

It's clearly based on the D11

Because it is missing CAT's signature delta tracks (raised drive sprocket) it looks more like a Komatsu D375A to me or something inbetween the two

[Maaboo the Witch]

22 minutes ago, Saruzeufel said:

Because it is missing CAT's signature delta tracks (raised drive sprocket) it looks more like a Komatsu D375A to me or something inbetween the two

I think the reason for that omission is that this is not a CAT-branded product.

[pow]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:23 PM, Maaboo the Witch said:

It's clearly based on the D11

 

6 hours ago, Saruzeufel said:

Because it is missing CAT's signature delta tracks (raised drive sprocket) it looks more like a Komatsu D375A to me or something inbetween the two

You both are wrong! with this yellow and red color scheme, this is clearly a heavy duty DHL parcel mover! Easily recognizable by the missing hook at the rear end! You don't need this for parcel moving right?

If wonder why you've never seen one, that's bcause they are only used within the sorting facilities! If parcels look a bit chewed, that's the reason!

...sorry couldn't resist

Edited December 9, 2023 by pow
parcel!

[PlopiNinetySix]

That's wholesome :D

Congrats @kbalage!!!

[Maaboo the Witch]

Well done to @kbalage! Much deserved.

Also, as highlighted in his video - presenting the first alternate build for 42163, courtesy of @mic8per! It's not an official B-model, but it's something, at least.

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by Maaboo the Witch

[R0Sch]

11 hours ago, Maaboo the Witch said:

Also, as highlighted in his video - presenting the first alternate build for 42168, courtesy of @mic8per! It's not an official B-model, but it's something, at least.

Seems you are still thinking about the nice JD harvester :))

I like this mod as well:
https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-167686/mirrorbricks/42163-ripper-attachment/#details

[SNIPE]

7 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

Seems you are still thinking about the nice JD harvester :))

I like this mod as well:
https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-167686/mirrorbricks/42163-ripper-attachment/#details
 

That's what this set should have been.

[R0Sch]

And here is what I cam up with today. A nice little snowmobile with working steering and rocker arm rear suspension (hopefully pivoting properly). Also adjustable tilt of the windscreen by the 8t gear and adjustable seat height :))
Left over pieces: only 1x 9L axle (plus 17 chain pieces, but those make for some nice baggage roll).

[artemisovsky]

2 hours ago, R0Sch said:

And here is what I cam up with today. A nice little snowmobile with working steering and rocker arm rear suspension (hopefully pivoting properly). Also adjustable tilt of the windscreen by the 8t gear and adjustable seat height :))
Left over pieces: only 1x 9L axle (plus 17 chain pieces, but those make for some nice baggage roll).

Very good alt. One of the reasons TLG stopped releasing B models is better afols alternative creations than official models.
I also had some time today to build something for this set and here are the results:

[JaBaCaDaBra]

BIG smile

[R0Sch]

23 minutes ago, artemisovsky said:

Very good alt. One of the reasons TLG stopped releasing B models is better afols alternative creations than official models.
I also had some time today to build something for this set and here are the results:

 

Great work! This is so funny! Reminds me of my favorite childhood Technic set:


I like your cute tank as well.

[GerritvdG]

Thanks @R0Sch for sharing the io-model. It's indeed a simple set, also no reason to buy it because there aren't any new parts introduced and I've the parts at hand (with the most exclusive parts being the yellow liftarm 2x3 Quarter Ellipse).

Nice set for Rebrickable indeed, and the alternatives are created before I could read this thread :).

Will build the set, but doesn't come close to the 42133-1 - Telehandler.

[Auroralampinen]

Sariel released review 

[artemisovsky]

On 12/23/2023 at 8:02 PM, R0Sch said:

Great work! This is so funny! Reminds me of my favorite childhood Technic set

Thank you for the praise and also for sharing the io model so that I could quickly prepare instructions for my alts.
Similar universal sets adapted to the current reality are on my wishlist (along with the return of technic minifigures and remastered 8480) from TLG, but that probaly will never take place.

3 hours ago, GerritvdG said:

It's indeed a simple set, also no reason to buy it because there aren't any new parts introduced and I've the parts at hand (with the most exclusive parts being the yellow liftarm 2x3 Quarter Ellipse).

Agree with you, this set is one of the two large disappointments of the coming year for me (especially after this year's great mini sets 42147 and 42148). It seems very budget with limited functions (there isn't even a simple ripper). As a parts package it also doesn't look very good but most of the rest sets are much better imho.

[Maaboo the Witch]

Who wants a Sariel review? I do, I do!