LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[STARHAWK]

Looking at the crossection from the book Compleete Vehicles. The barge should have almost 2.5 floors. There is a full 2nd floor room at the back of the vehicle and underneath the main floor there is a dungeon, huge water tanks and maintenance corridors around the engines. So this model is kind of tiny in compare to the real vehicle.

 

Seems they target was to rebuild the Hasbro haslab Sail Barge in the lego form, slap the same price and thats it. The more i look at the "real" thing and the lego model, the more i dislike even the built itself - perhaps some techniques are good and could be used for a bigger model, but thats about it. Its like when i bult the old UCS Sandcrawler and then i saw the real UCS Sandcrawler by cavegod's which can be found here on Eurobricks too - the old "UCS" from lego can almost park inside the true minifig scale one

https://x.com/ClassicStarWars/status/520174409886085122/photo/1

I feel like Magna Tolvan (go and look her up if u are not aware), i have to constantly use the word "sloppy" in connection to the lego SW products (at least the ones im collecting - minifig scale ones or with minifigs - i dont care about statues, helmets or midi scale ships, or oversized UCS vehicles)

[STARHAWK]

1 hour ago, Llewop said:

Lego is too expensive now I wouldn’t even pay half of what the rrp is. Where do people get the money to afford these sets 

Wondering the same. Im from Eastern Europe, post communistic state where the official avg netto salary is 1070 eur. So i can understand why people for country like mine are moaning about the price, but Germans or British for example ?

Im lucky that my financial state is good and i have a well paid job, but still - i have multiple hobbies which are now competing for not just my money, but also shelf space. Right now im looking at upgrading my gaming pc for about 1000eur to by able to play Space Marine 2.

Seems this set will have to wait until its like 350eur. Not because i dont have the money, but because the product is not worth the money or the perception of the value is simply not there as there is a lot of issues with this set, many of which could be solved if done right.

[MKJoshA]

I really wanted to like this set. So far I'm disappointed. I'll wait for more details like promos before deciding whether to buy it.

For the record, we don't know that Leia having dual molded "shorts" is for political reasons. I actually think that's unlikely as someone pointed out Lego is making bikini sporting minifigures right now. I imagine the choice had to do with dual molding and difficulties in trying to print "flesh" coloring on the sides. Probably just a poor designer choice and nothing political.

[JohnTPT17]

I was never really in the market for this, but it really doesn't feel like a $500 set to me - and, honestly, I'm kinds of getting over the schtick of Lego setting upscaled, $500+ sets that only can be sold to super-fans with deep pockets, as opposed to slightly smaller and simpler sets that would cap out at $200. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Marvel, Zelda - it's all the same. I imagine seeing some more in-person photos could maybe make me more impressed, but, frankly, if someone really did want to make a really big version of the older sail barge, or Rivendell, or whatnot, they just would have bought two and combined them. When the only option is the most expensive option, it really limits who can buy it. 

Overall, I think the characters are also a little weak. I do take back my comment about Leia though - it really looks like she's wearing shorts. I'm also not a fan of the reused head - it's been used for a lot of characters recently, and it's getting a little repetitive at this point. And the "fat Bib" headpiece doesn't look good. And cataracts Crumb is a disgrace. But, at least Jabba and the Gammorean look fine, as well as the Glup Shittos. Even then, when you compare this character roster with, say, Mos Eisley or Cloud City, it really does feel lacking.

In the end - meh. I'm sure it'll look fine on the shelves of those who can afford it, but it's just not for me.

[STARHAWK]

2 hours ago, Old Master said:

Just compared with the 2012/2013 one - it looks like the prints are different (the wrinkle marks mostly) but the mould is the same (at least from eyeballing it). Also noticed that he does not feature that tattoo on his left arm anymore. 

Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ? They managed to downgrade even Jabba ? Would be maybe usable to me to pose as other hutt than Jabba then :D :D :D

Again, im glad i have 2 of those Jabba figs.

[Lobot]

The Sail Barge certainly looks well finished and includes some excellent details, especially on the top section.  It looks very clean, and the deck cannon, rails and excellent balance between tiles and grills add a touch of class.  However, it isn't that interesting as a set, and just looks like a 75020 on steroids!  I'm not convinced about the quoted RRP though as many others have mentioned.  If you combine it with the Sarlaac Pit, it's around £500, and for that you get 4,500 parts and 17 minifigures.  On the plus side, it looks quite substantial, and I'll probably end up buying it at some point when it's on sale - but it's not a set that I'm in any hurry to add to my collection. 

My initial thought is a decent 7/10 - it could have been a lot better with a few more minifigures! 

[Kit Figsto]

31 minutes ago, MKJoshA said:

I imagine the choice had to do with dual molding and difficulties in trying to print "flesh" coloring on the sides. Probably just a poor designer choice and nothing political.

I say this as someone that doesn't get what the all of the fuss is about (the figure looks great, IMO), but I think this is probably the biggest reason.  Printing tan/white over a darker color usually looks bad, and someone else pointed out too that if they went with a tan leg piece with some red printing on top, it would give that weird effect where the inside of the hip is tan, so whenever you pose the figure with a leg bent, you've got this tan speck that looks out of place.

Also, I feel like basing off of this photo, the figure looks fine.

https://live.staticflickr.com/1626/25319691573_d6e0e91cfa_b.jpg

[dai613]

Cal Kestis and Jedi Bob. Any idea why we don’t we have the sw# on Bricklink for these minifigures over a month after release?

[Sneakguest]

2 hours ago, FullBrickDev said:

I wanted to know if this price is as outlandish as it seems. So, I did the math! While prices per piece for most UCS Star Wars sets are outlandish sometimes, the price per gram is not too horrific. Higher, sure, but around one or two cents per gram higher. It's too late for me in the evening to start comparing if the price per gram is around 20% higher for licnsed themes as New Elementary said "we should expect to pay roughly 20% more for a licensed set than for a comparable non-licensed set".

 

Jabba's sail barge: 549€ - 3942 pcs (13,9 cents per piece - unknown cents per gram)

UCS AT-AT: 849€ - 6785 pcs (12,5 cents per piece - 7,9 cents per gram)

UCS Razor Crest: 599€ - 6171 pcs (9,7 cents per piece - 7,4 cents per gram)

Lion Knight's Castle: 399€ - 4514 pcs (8,9 cents per piece - 6,6 cents per gram)

Gringotts: 429€ - 4803 pcs (9 cents per piece - 6,4 cents per gram)

Rivendell: 499€ - 6167 pcs (8,1 cents per piece - 7,2 cents per gram)

Avengers Tower: 499€ - 5201 pcs (9,6 cents per piece - 7,1 cents per gram)

Eiffel Tower: 629€ - 10001 pcs (6,3 cents per piece - 5,4 cents per gram)

Ninjago City Gardens: 349€ - 5685 pcs (6,2 cents per piece - 5,8 cents per gram)

Duel on Peridea: 54,99€ - 382 pcs (14,4 cents per piece, 10 cents per gram)

Construction Excavator: 54,99 € - 621 pcs (8,7 cents per piece, 6,6 cents per gram)

 

Thanks to Brickset for prices/price per piece & leakers for Sail barge info. Price per gram is per the weight listed on bricklink.

 

EDIT: I was worried the sails wouldn't look great - they look good! Figs look good as well, although I would expect more for the price. Salacious B. Crumb still looks funny without pupils.

Isnt SW sets almost always more expensive in price per brick and in number of minifugures included? 

[Sneakguest]

2 hours ago, STARHAWK said:

Lets start the rant:

Gamorean - missing dualmolded legs to see hius green legs - looking at my 6" Hasbro figure, the legs are pretty prominent - so another fail with the dualmolded needed but not used

Bib - unacceptable reuse of the fat mold - lazy, missing cape (coz cloth is very expensive nowadays for lego)

Kithaba - we already had him (sw0397), minimum upgrade, but OK - the headpiece is more accurate. Yet missing doublemolded legs.

Vizam - not totally bad, could also use doublemold legs and the headpiece is not a bad choice if they dont want to make a new mold

Wooof - OKish but should have a leg print of that wool skirt

Leia - unacceptable, doublemolds shorts used for political reasons only, missing the jewelry on the hands and printed boots (i display mine on studs, i immediately took her off the studs due to the legs cracking issues as this version will skyrocket in price)

3PO - should have been have been the one from UCS landspeeder and the statue as thats the most correct one (personally dont have him yet, landspeeder was not interesting enough to purchase, statue the same)

R2 - ok, another to the pile of R2s

Max - ok, reused, dont see a bally print on the picture, dont really care since i have 2pcs and he is not really an usable figure

Salacious B. Crumb - ok mold, but terrible eyes

Jabba - i dont really see what is different, but i own 2 pcs of the previous figure which was already perfect

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So for me like 2 new usable figures and they still not perfect

btw Barada (the other klatoonian similar to Kithaba which is not in this set) seems to wear similar pants as Han in Ep4 - blue pants with red stripe and black boots - could be a new piece that would be reused for proper Ep4 Han

 

For the built - i need to see more detailed pictures, but it seems to be too small. Its even missing the stairs to the upper deck


So for now it seems a pass for me for the day 1 purchase, not even the free saber could save this (i dont know who wants to fork 100eur for a lightsaber set which can be built out of own bricks when for about 130 you can have the actual metal functional replica with glow, sounds, that can be used to battle ...)

This is like a 300eur set

I probably need only Vizam, Woof and Kithabas headpiece - everything else is a crap in this set.

My wife will be glad :D - the only person who will be celebrating this set in my household.

Seems even the build is not good enough and i have to resort to simply build my own - bigger barge, i thought they will save me some time on thinking how to construct my own MOC, but if i want a perfect barge for my Tatooine diorama, ill have to do it myself ...

Lol, well I could have a use for another hutt, acting as one from the TBOB series.

The Gamorrean for me as the last version is ok. But since they cane from TBOB they should have been barechested actually back then.

Yes Bib was lazy, Vizam was lazy.

Im not sure Leia got molded legs for politicaln reasons 🤔 sounds a but conspiration theory to me. They could just have not included her if it was sensitive. And in that case, equally as much to avoid sexuality exposure as political I would say. Like a bit too naked for some parents. But I like the new hair mold. 

Too many repeats in generally. I mean the only figure we had from Max Reebos band was… Max Reebo. And who do we get again? Taadaah! Max Reebo! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Honestly I dont see how its a plus for them to reuse and reuse.

Only figure I really like is Wooof, but do agree they could have get him printed legs.🤷🏻‍♂️

The build seem fine but to much money for what we get I might say. 

[TotoMagnus]

1 hour ago, STARHAWK said:

Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ? They managed to downgrade even Jabba ? Would be maybe usable to me to pose as other hutt than Jabba then :D :D :D

Again, im glad i have 2 of those Jabba figs.

I asked this itavix_bricks guy on IG. According to him, Jabba has his Tattoo (It‘s on his right arm, not on his left). 

[Tariq j]

1 hour ago, Lobot said:

The Sail Barge certainly looks well finished and includes some excellent details, especially on the top section.  It looks very clean, and the deck cannon, rails and excellent balance between tiles and grills add a touch of class.  However, it isn't that interesting as a set, and just looks like a 75020 on steroids!  I'm not convinced about the quoted RRP though as many others have mentioned. 

My initial thought is a decent 7/10 - it could have been a lot better with a few more minifigures! 

Yeah, I feel that as well. It is a really, really good set but at the same time it’s not exceptional. Like others have said - it doesn’t feel like a $500 set in a way I quite can’t articulate. 

[STARHAWK]

34 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

I say this as someone that doesn't get what the all of the fuss is about (the figure looks great, IMO), but I think this is probably the biggest reason.  Printing tan/white over a darker color usually looks bad, and someone else pointed out too that if they went with a tan leg piece with some red printing on top, it would give that weird effect where the inside of the hip is tan, so whenever you pose the figure with a leg bent, you've got this tan speck that looks out of place.

Also, I feel like basing off of this photo, the figure looks fine.

 

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Seriously ? Are u blind ? Dot u see those naked hips ?

Actually the improvement would be to have completely Light Nougat legs and a piece of cloth in front and back - they did some skirts already in the past like the Hawaian dancer girl in CMF- and print on the cloth -> that would be like an ultimate version of that figure.
There is absolutely no reason to print tan (light nougat) - just use such legs and print only the cloth peace as it was done for the 3 previous versions - the only imperfection is that right (from my perspective, or left leg from minifigs) has always a like 0.5mm shift, its a print issue many figures have - but i would like to tolerate tick imperfection over the shorts she has now.

I can bend to old Leia like 20degree to the back before that missing printing area is visible and if they wanted, they could print each leg separately and print it more on the edge / round surface

This is for sure for political reasons - the same reason we cant have Slave 1 wile like dozens sets before were named so. And woke lego immediately jumped on the idea to cover Leias hips ...   Its the same reason we cant have a rerelease of Slave leia in 6" for from Hasbro although people who bought recently released 6" Jabba desperately need her - im lucky my friend bough me one at discount and i did unboxed it now and placed her on the correct place near Jabbas belly :)   it looks very good although that figure is not super perfect with all the joints visible - they have now some technology to at least get rid of the pins connecting the joints which is very visible on naked skin, yet they dont use that feature to rerelease new slave Leia

[AD_Bricks]

Can confirm that my 2 Jabbas from the 2012 palace and 2013 barge both have the tattoo on the right arm, just as the new one almost certainly will.

Bib definitely looks wrong with the BOBF mould, but Leia looks great. I might have to buy the dual moulded legs to switch out on my 2013 version.

Looks pretty good overall, but as usual, USC sets aren't my jam nor within my budget, so I'll stay out of the value discussion.

Edited September 16 by AD_Bricks

[Sneakguest]

24 minutes ago, STARHAWK said:

Seriously ? Are u blind ? Dot u see those naked hips ?

Actually the improvement would be to have completely Light Nougat legs and a piece of cloth in front and back - they did some skirts already in the past like the Hawaian dancer girl in CMF- and print on the cloth -> that would be like an ultimate version of that figure.
There is absolutely no reason to print tan (light nougat) - just use such legs and print only the cloth peace as it was done for the 3 previous versions - the only imperfection is that right (from my perspective, or left leg from minifigs) has always a like 0.5mm shift, its a print issue many figures have - but i would like to tolerate tick imperfection over the shorts she has now.

I can bend to old Leia like 20degree to the back before that missing printing area is visible and if they wanted, they could print each leg separately and print it more on the edge / round surface

This is for sure for political reasons - the same reason we cant have Slave 1 wile like dozens sets before were named so. And woke lego immediately jumped on the idea to cover Leias hips ...   Its the same reason we cant have a rerelease of Slave leia in 6" for from Hasbro although people who bought recently released 6" Jabba desperately need her - im lucky my friend bough me one at discount and i did unboxed it now and placed her on the correct place near Jabbas belly :)   it looks very good although that figure is not super perfect with all the joints visible - they have now some technology to at least get rid of the pins connecting the joints which is very visible on naked skin, yet they dont use that feature to rerelease new slave Leia

Well its not the same as removing the name of the ship as making certain design choice. To me it has nothing to do with wokeness, this one is too isignificant for that, but I have a feeling that you and me will never agree on this.

[CallumPears]

5 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

Bib definitely looks wrong with the BOBF mould, but Leia looks great. I might have to buy the dual moulded legs to switch out on my 2013 version.

You'll probably have a lot of people lining up to do a straight swap.

[STARHAWK]

12 minutes ago, Sneakguest said:

Well its not the same as removing the name of the ship as making certain design choice. To me it has nothing to do with wokeness, this one is too isignificant for that, but I have a feeling that you and me will never agree on this.

If you put 2 and 2 together and see the overall cultural war (no more sexi female in games to name another) you would understand its woke political correctness and i can only hope, more people would reject this and vote with their wallets.

They had no problems use the cloth pattern and naked hip is all of the 3 previous minifigs, but all of a sudden now in the age of woke, its a problem.

In the end this all will only play to the hands of custom producers and chinese producers. Lego is so lame in the prints that i will later spend money on custom prints figures than on original lego and im lucky that one of my friends is already producing such items - i just need to wait until he gets to do SW figs as i suggested (im waiting on imperial uniforms).

[bRICK99]

“Vote with your wallets” yet SW always remains in the Top 5 best selling themes. LEGO isn’t gonna change when doing good to mediocre will still give them millions. 

If people are gonna “boycott” the set it’s cause of the price and not cause Leia isn’t sexy. 

[Llewop]

3 hours ago, STARHAWK said:

Wondering the same. Im from Eastern Europe, post communistic state where the official avg netto salary is 1070 eur. So i can understand why people for country like mine are moaning about the price, but Germans or British for example ?

Im lucky that my financial state is good and i have a well paid job, but still - i have multiple hobbies which are now competing for not just my money, but also shelf space. Right now im looking at upgrading my gaming pc for about 1000eur to by able to play Space Marine 2.

Seems this set will have to wait until its like 350eur. Not because i dont have the money, but because the product is not worth the money or the perception of the value is simply not there as there is a lot of issues with this set, many of which could be solved if done right.

I know right, I’m married, one child second on the way, got a mortgage etc and enough after that to do a few things but when it’s like £70 for a video game and then like couple hundred a wave for new sets something has to give. I don’t just collect SW most of us dip into other themes and it’s just crazy. It’s the only problem with the UCS and some Icons sets are their exclusivity at Lego. You have to wait for a sale which is sometimes not that great at least when sets go to other stores they do bigger discounts on them. I’m still trying to pluck up the courage to spend some money on the Barad Dur set if the prices keep going up going to have to start a side hustle as a bank robber to be able to feed my Lego addiction lol

[Archer]

Ok:

Pros

-Well Built

-Looks like a fair amount of interior detail

-some of the figs, all guards are great (they were my #1 desire out of this set as i own all the 2012-2013 Jabba sets) one even has a new mold i think, Max is the exact same? (Thats good) R2 has updated drinks though the tray is as rough as ever. 

Cons

- PRICE!!!! if this is indeed $500 there is no way this is worth the same as Avengers Tower or Rivendell or Barad Dur.

-other figs, Leia and Crumb I think are worse. Fortuna is the worst offender though. very glad I have the old one.

-I have the 2013 one and while this is certainly bigger and better, but it isn't that much bigger and better (except that this one won't disintegrate if I look at it funny)

In summary I will probably be paying a lot for those 3 guards, maybe for fortuna to get the torso and legs to swap out but this set is an easy pass in years where lego is over saturating its offerings with huge nerd-bait sets.

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 hour ago, STARHAWK said:

If you put 2 and 2 together and see the overall cultural war (no more sexi female in games to name another) you would understand its woke political correctness and i can only hope, more people would reject this and vote with their wallets.

They had no problems use the cloth pattern and naked hip is all of the 3 previous minifigs, but all of a sudden now in the age of woke, its a problem.

In the end this all will only play to the hands of custom producers and chinese producers. Lego is so lame in the prints that i will later spend money on custom prints figures than on original lego and im lucky that one of my friends is already producing such items - i just need to wait until he gets to do SW figs as i suggested (im waiting on imperial uniforms).

I'm just thankful they didn't change it too much and it looks like the 2013 figure with small changes to the legs, they could have completely covered the chest area 

Not that I care about the character but Accuracy is everything to me

Slave Leia Microfighter when ?

Edited September 16 by Lego Nostalgia

[wesker]

5 hours ago, STARHAWK said:

Bib - unacceptable reuse of the fat mold - lazy, missing cape (coz cloth is very expensive nowadays for lego)

Bib Fortuna never wore a cape in the films. The new minifigure is more accurate in that regard. I think this is another case of being more accustomed to the design of the previous minifigure over what is actually depicted in the movie itself.

The fat headpiece is really the only thing wrong here.

[STARHAWK]

31 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I know right, I’m married, one child second on the way, got a mortgage etc and enough after that to do a few things but when it’s like £70 for a video game and then like couple hundred a wave for new sets something has to give. I don’t just collect SW most of us dip into other themes and it’s just crazy. It’s the only problem with the UCS and some Icons sets are their exclusivity at Lego. You have to wait for a sale which is sometimes not that great at least when sets go to other stores they do bigger discounts on them. I’m still trying to pluck up the courage to spend some money on the Barad Dur set if the prices keep going up going to have to start a side hustle as a bank robber to be able to feed my Lego addiction lol

married, 2kids, but lucky for me no mortgage while i have my own flat - so imagine being able to spend the mortgage budget monthly on toys and collectibles. Yes, im less critical of the skiff (got it for 70eur) - i am critical, but still did purchased that set, but at 500-550eur.

Waiting for sale is ok, there is too many other products from lego or other brands. Sooner or later it will be discounted. I got the Razor Crest for almost 400eur (when considering also return VIP points and all the gifts). Barad Dur was a day 1 pick as the unique nazgul was in demand - its selling for 120eur at least and i can still sell the set for +- the catalogue price and buy it again once there is a bigger discount later - dont really have space to build it. Yep lego is pupmpig out too many expensive sets too quickly and we usually dont want to miss it for its MSRP and pay the extra on secondary - thats a reason i bought a lot of sets - keeping in mind i can still sell them for catalogue price later if i dont want to build it, but i run out of storage space in my 4room flat - i have now like 1 cubic meter of sets to sell and i started to count it that way (so far i sold already 0.5 m3, but that on top of the 1 m3 i need to sell :D )

31 minutes ago, wesker said:

Bib Fortuna never wore a cape in the films. The new minifigure is more accurate in that regard. I think this is another case of being more accustomed to the design of the previous minifigure over what is actually depicted in the movie itself.

The fat headpiece is really the only thing wrong here.

Looking at my 6" Hasbro figure, its more like a coat up to his feet - so the cape would be close enough. I they wanted to print it, they had to print it lower as on the minigifure. Hand should be that dark blue color as they are sticking out through the coat

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'm just thankful they didn't change it too much and it looks like the 2013 figure with small changes to the legs, they could have completely covered the chest area 

Not that I care about the character but Accuracy is everything to me

Slave Leia Microfighter when ?

Unfortunately figs like Oola are banned now. Im sad we never get the twillek twins Ann and Tann Gella (in similar style as Oola)

Microfighter ? I dont think so, it was maybe difficult enough to talk Disney onto allowing them to have Slave ehm huttslayer Leia in a big set for adults :)
If accuracy is everything for you, then this set is not for you with so many inaccuracies i listed

[Old Master]

Lightsaber GWP photos out. It is perfection.

[hikouki]

2 hours ago, STARHAWK said:

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Unfortunately figs like Oola are banned now. Im sad we never get the twillek twins Ann and Tann Gella (in similar style as Oola)

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Why???