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1 hour ago, Llewop said:

Really? I’ve never noticed very strange obviously sets are expensive and aren’t really worth what they are at rrp. If they are going on sale so early maybe alarm bells should be ringing at Lego to maybe stop hiking prices up 

It isn´t uncommon that Sets can be preordered with 20% or something like that. Also, it isn´t like it is Lego where it is like that but other brands to - in the end they want you to buy it and in their shop, and as almost everyone seems to sell Lego here nowadays, there is a lot competition - and if you offer Sets for 20% off right at start you might make more money than you would trying them for rrp.

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Fair enough well if anyone wants to save some money in the U.K. then they know where to go

Does anyone know when the battle pack gets released? And has a price been confirmed?

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15 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Is it too hard to just spell the Millennium Falcon? Or just the Falcon?

 

What's not debatable is that merchandising took a hit following the...divisive...episodes VIII and IX. Only the Mandalorian has successfully revitalized the brand toy wise, not TCW Season 7, not Resistance, not Rebels, and certainly not any of the following TV shows (including the ones everyone likes, such as Andor)

 

Anakin's ETA-2 (Battle of Coruscant). I'd put money on it.

I never get why people pretend that acronym is anything besides a "haha it means something else too" joke. If you want to shorten it, you just say Falcon. I've never heard anyone use the acronym naturally.

I'd also say Anakin's ETA-2 is very likely. I'd even be so bold as to put money on the may 2026 one being either the TIE advanced or AT-ST.

56 minutes ago, Llewop said:

And has a price been confirmed?

Not to my knowledge. I stick by $40 is good, $45 is unfortunately likely, $50 is also somewhat likely but will make it so I don't buy the set unless it hits sale.

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Decided I'm going to pick up the Star Destroyer from my local LBR today. Seems like a great set all-round.

I am hoping that we see the Mantis sooner rather than later. They don't even need to void the exclusivity of the ISD version of Cal, they could base the Mantis version off his look in Survivor. 

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2 hours ago, Willsy said:

I am hoping that we see the Mantis sooner rather than later. They don't even need to void the exclusivity of the ISD version of Cal, they could base the Mantis version off his look in Survivor. 

If we get the Mantis, it will almost certainly be when the third “Jedi: ” game drops (whenever that may be). 
 

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Regarding quality control and Lego, I hold them responsible because their moto is "only the best is good enough." Yet quality has gone down over the years, not up. I sent photos to Lego CS of bricks from 10 years ago and ones I bought this year and they said, "yeah I can see the quality decline." Lego won't change unless the money tells them to. I encourage everyone to ask for replacement pieces for mis-prints, ugly injection mold marks, and any other flaws. Can't do anything about minifigure design errors, but anything legitimate ask for a replacement. That's what CS told me to do and I have. When it starts to hurt them financially Lego will change. 

The Andor drop pod and Inquisitor Scythe from Kenobi were amazingly designed sets. We get some real gems in terms of Star Wars sets, but I wish it was more the norm. 

As for sales, I miss having access to constant deals on the States. The only consistent deals in France I've seen are on Amazon at Christmas time.

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7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Why do I feel like there may be less than 10 normal Play-sets next year?

Based on what? To me, it seems like they frontloaded the year with non-playsets, so the 2HY wave(s) should be filled with them :laugh: Yeah, sure, there will certainly be another bigger buildable character à la Chewy or 3PO (fingers crossed for Grievous!!) in the August wave again, but there‘s nothing to suggest a downturn in playsets for the second half of the year :shrug_oh_well:

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8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Why do I feel like there may be less than 10 normal Play-sets next year?

For January 2025 we have two 'regular' playsets (ARC-170 and Jedi interceptor) and a 4+ playset. In January this year we only had the super battle pack and a 4+ playset. I'd say that so far 2025 looks better than this year :tongue:

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2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Based on what? To me, it seems like they frontloaded the year with non-playsets, so the 2HY wave(s) should be filled with them :laugh: Yeah, sure, there will certainly be another bigger buildable character à la Chewy or 3PO (fingers crossed for Grievous!!) in the August wave again, but there‘s nothing to suggest a downturn in playsets for the second half of the year :shrug_oh_well:

@Big_Daddy

Yes but there were still play-sets in March. In 2025 there don’t appear to be any. I know I may be overreacting though.

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1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Yes but there were still play-sets in March.

Yes, one :laugh: There were two more in May, and the vast majority came out in June and August. So no reason to panic just yet!

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3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

@Big_Daddy

Yes but there were still play-sets in March. In 2025 there don’t appear to be any. I know I may be overreacting though.

Indeed, just one though. As for March, is there any news already? I've been on holiday and my internet access was very limited so I may have missed something.

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We need to stop being upset about inaccurate colouration of clone armor, incorrect number of Imperial pens, and wrong belt buckles on Republic officers. We’re all overlooking the biggest, most terrible, glaring error ever in LEGO Star Wars: they misspelled “Shield” in 75291: Death Star Final Duel. This is outrageous, I tell you! It’s unfair, I say!

(So, how do the kids these days clue people in that the ridiculous thing they’re saying is a joke? I can’t begin to keep up with all the lingo and trends of the youngsters.)

 

 

By the way, do we know for sure that the May D2C won’t be an Ewok Village, and that the Ewok Village (or something Endor related) will be a fall D2C?

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13 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

If we get the Mantis, it will almost certainly be when the third “Jedi: ” game drops (whenever that may be). 

I agree, the good news is it's been in development for some time, I remember the Cal and Merrin voice actors confirmed they'd been doing lines for game 3 forever ago. When the third Jedi series game- Jedi: Rising Son or what have you (it's like poetry it rhymes)-releases, it's our best shot at a Mantis.

11 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

Regarding quality control and Lego, I hold them responsible because their moto is "only the best is good enough." Yet quality has gone down over the years, not up. I sent photos to Lego CS of bricks from 10 years ago and ones I bought this year and they said, "yeah I can see the quality decline." Lego won't change unless the money tells them to. I encourage everyone to ask for replacement pieces for mis-prints, ugly injection mold marks, and any other flaws. Can't do anything about minifigure design errors, but anything legitimate ask for a replacement. That's what CS told me to do and I have. When it starts to hurt them financially Lego will change. 

I totally agree, but I think part quality decreasing is different than small details about the set. 

Take Fives's helmet for example. A lot of people complain about how it officially looks in stock photos and such. I think it's absurd to get that worked up over it. However, if I got my fives, and it was misprinted, that makes sense to hold lego responsible for. One is a subjective anger about how a figure looks. The other is an objective quality decline. 

I don't know about you guys, but I've had more misprints, missing parts, and scratched parts (though honestly I don't send replacement requests for those, I don't know where the "line" should be on how scratched is too scratched) in the past 2-3 years than in the rest of my life, and the amount of sets I've been buying has gone heavily DOWN, not up, especially over the last year.

16 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Why do I feel like there may be less than 10 normal Play-sets next year?

How many playsets in the average august wave? I feel like 8 is a reasonable enough number, I wouldn't be shocked if 

3 hours ago, Big_Daddy said:

Indeed, just one though. As for March, is there any news already? I've been on holiday and my internet access was very limited so I may have missed something.

If there is a march wave, I'd be confident it's some of the sets that have already leaked. Midi ships, logo, and/or helmet(s)

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yes, one :laugh: There were two more in May, and the vast majority came out in June and August. So no reason to panic just yet!

I hate this piecemeal approach to 1HY. I want my big january wave back. I also want to go back to three big waves a year rather than this big august wave and the january wave spread across the first 6 months of the year.

(I feel like an old man with that first part but it really hasn't been that long. I think 2021 started the decline of the january wave.)

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Right. Every year there seems to be at least one Tie Fighter variant in play-scale form (most years anyway)

2015: FO Tie Fighter and Tie Advanced
2016: Tie Advanced x1 and Tie Striker
2017: Tie Silencer
2018: Tie Fighter
2019: Major Vorang’s Tie Interceptor
2020: Tie Dagger
2021: Tie Fighter
2022: No Tie (the one anomaly of the last 10 years)
2023: Tie Bomber and Tie interceptor
2024: Tie Fighter  
2025: ?

What are your bets? Tie Defender or Vader’s Tie Advanced are the two most likely imo? The Tie Avenger is probably too similar in shape to the Tie interceptor to warrant a set unfortunately.

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2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Right. Every year there seems to be at least one Tie Fighter variant in play-scale form (most years anyway)

2015: FO Tie Fighter and Tie Advanced
2016: Tie Advanced x1 and Tie Striker
2017: Tie Silencer
2018: Tie Fighter
2019: Major Vorang’s Tie Interceptor
2020: Tie Dagger
2021: Tie Fighter
2022: No Tie (the one anomaly of the last 10 years)
2023: Tie Bomber and Tie interceptor
2024: Tie Fighter  
2025: ?

What are your bets? Tie Defender or Vader’s Tie Advanced are the two most likely imo? The Tie Avenger is probably too similar in shape to the Tie interceptor to warrant a set unfortunately.

A TIE advanced would be my preference but there have been to many Darth Vaders recently I’m kind of over getting him in a set. 

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9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I totally agree, but I think part quality decreasing is different than small details about the set. 

Take Fives's helmet for example. A lot of people complain about how it officially looks in stock photos and such. I think it's absurd to get that worked up over it. However, if I got my fives, and it was misprinted, that makes sense to hold lego responsible for. One is a subjective anger about how a figure looks. The other is an objective quality decline.

Obviously declining production quality and quality control is an issue, one that is mostly explained by maximizing profits at the expense of the customer experience.

Likewise, a detail being right or wrong is a matter of objective observation. Saying a child does not care because of young age or because it is a toy – that is subjective (and rather condescending, I may add).

Lego does get away with both because all too many people are still willing to defend it. Don't get me wrong, I too defend Lego if a mistake is not Lego's fault, e.g. the first Thrawn when Disney simply gave wrong info to licensees, changed the rank last minute and almost everybody got it wrong. When it comes to easily avoidable mistakes in a 650€ collector's item, exclusively aimed at adults, it must be called out.

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7 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

What are your bets? Tie Defender or Vader’s Tie Advanced are the two most likely imo?

In canon, the TIE Defender has only appeared in Rebels, so that‘s rather unlikely, unfortunately. We haven‘t seen Vader‘s TIE advanced in quite a while, so that one‘s pretty plausible (even though Vader‘s been everywhere, as @Llewop points out). Another option would be a FO TIE Fighter, but we all know how TLG tend to handle anniversaries :shrug_oh_well:

Personally, I‘m in favour of a TIE Reaper, but given how unlikely Andor/Rogue One sets are, it‘s either gonna be Vader‘s TIE or none at all.

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4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Personally, I‘m in favour of a TIE Reaper, but given how unlikely Andor/Rogue One sets are, it‘s either gonna be Vader‘s TIE or none at all.

I also think a Tie Reaper would be an excellent set. It’s been a while since we had a bad guy assault shuttle from Lego. Make it a special forces orientated set and it would be extremely popular with AFOLs and Kids.

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10 hours ago, Llewop said:

A TIE advanced would be my preference but there have been to many Darth Vaders recently I’m kind of over getting him in a set. 

I'm dying for a TIE Advanced X1. I don't mind getting yet another arm print Vader because it's such an incredible figure. The only way it could be improved is by printing red lenses on the eyes but LEGO has yet to add that printing capability. Regardless, They'd definitely sweeten the pot by including an additional figure. A new Grand Moff Tarkin would be the obvious choice and would be a nice comparison to the last stand alone X-Wing including General Dodoma. I could also see it include another Imperial astromech as well for good measure but I'd personally hope for more interesting and previously unmade figures.

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15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Every year there seems to be at least one Tie Fighter variant in play-scale form (most years anyway)

2015: FO Tie Fighter and Tie Advanced
2016: Tie Advanced x1 and Tie Striker
2017: Tie Silencer
2018: Tie Fighter
2019: Major Vorang’s Tie Interceptor
2020: Tie Dagger
2021: Tie Fighter
2022: No Tie (the one anomaly of the last 10 years)
2023: Tie Bomber and Tie interceptor
2024: Tie Fighter  
2025: ?

What are your bets? Tie Defender or Vader’s Tie Advanced are the two most likely imo? The Tie Avenger is probably too similar in shape to the Tie interceptor to warrant a set unfortunately.

Vader’s TIE Advanced is long overdue for a remake, so that would be my top pick. A R1 TIE Reaper or scaled-down TIE Striker would both be good choices, though their screen time has been far more limited; I would put them below Vader’s TIE in order of likelihood. The TIE Defender, while significant from a plot standpoint, has only appeared in Rebels, and the TIE Avenger is almost certainly a prototype that gets destroyed in Andor S2 (as we never see it again!), so those are the least likely to appear (unless we get a decent number of Andor sets). 

I know that LEGO is weird about anniversaries, so it is really a toss-up as to whether we will get R1 sets in 2026, but that feels to be a more likely year for things like the TIE Striker and TIE Reaper.
My Credits are on a Vader’s TIE Advanced vs. Rebel Y-wing set in 2025 (LEGO likes their two-ship sets, and it is a nice little throwback combo), and maybe a TIE Avenger set for Andor. Alternatively, as we do not know what Rebel starfighters will appear in Andor S2 aside from the U-wing (the Alliance was using A-wings during this time, for instance), we could get Vader’s TIE on its own and a TIE Avenger vs. a Rebel starfighter set for Andor
 

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18 hours ago, Flieger said:

Obviously declining production quality and quality control is an issue, one that is mostly explained by maximizing profits at the expense of the customer experience.

Likewise, a detail being right or wrong is a matter of objective observation. Saying a child does not care because of young age or because it is a toy – that is subjective (and rather condescending, I may add).

Lego does get away with both because all too many people are still willing to defend it. Don't get me wrong, I too defend Lego if a mistake is not Lego's fault, e.g. the first Thrawn when Disney simply gave wrong info to licensees, changed the rank last minute and almost everybody got it wrong. When it comes to easily avoidable mistakes in a 650€ collector's item, exclusively aimed at adults, it must be called out.

I feel like this is referencing something I haven't heard regarding the venator-

As for "a child does not care because of young age"- for something like Thrawn not having the correct number of code cylinders or whatever, this is absolutely true. 99.99% of kids- unless told about it by a whiny youtuber they look up to- wouldn't even NOTICE that inaccuracy, much less care. 

9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I also think a Tie Reaper would be an excellent set. It’s been a while since we had a bad guy assault shuttle from Lego. Make it a special forces orientated set and it would be extremely popular with AFOLs and Kids.

I agree, and it's a tie fighter (plus a dropship, which I always loved as a kid with the ability to lower the ramp and have the troops storm out, so that can't hurt), so it's not like it's gonna shelfwarm if kids haven't seen Rogue One or something.

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5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for "a child does not care because of young age"- for something like Thrawn not having the correct number of code cylinders or whatever, this is absolutely true. 99.99% of kids- unless told about it by a whiny youtuber they look up to- wouldn't even NOTICE that inaccuracy, much less care. 

You underestimate how far some kids go with details about their favourite characters. When I was 12 I could give a detailed list of, for example, the differences between ESB and RotJ Boba (yes I'm still annoyed about them getting him wrong in the skiff set). 

Maybe most kids won't notice, but plenty will, and it seems pretty dismissive to say they can't have nice accurate figures because they're young (and obviously that's ignoring the adult market for this stuff).

Even then, those hypothetical kids who don't care? Well, the figure being accurate won't make them like it any less. It should be trivially easy to get these details right and please everyone. The less-invested ones still get their cool-looking figure, but the ones who do care can also be happy that it's accurate. 

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6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for "a child does not care because of young age"- for something like Thrawn not having the correct number of code cylinders or whatever, this is absolutely true. 99.99% of kids- unless told about it by a whiny youtuber they look up to- wouldn't even NOTICE that inaccuracy, much less care. 

Yeah I agree. I’d say that getting the right rank plaque is more important than the code cylinders. Especially as that’s what makes most imperial officers recognisable. Not the small little pens that are barely noticeable.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I agree, and it's a tie fighter (plus a dropship, which I always loved as a kid with the ability to lower the ramp and have the troops storm out, so that can't hurt), so it's not like it's gonna shelfwarm if kids haven't seen Rogue One or something.

It seems to be a no-brainer. Maybe the reason why we haven’t gotten one yet is because Lego got rid of the death trooper mould? Though then again, they do have the assets available to make purge troopers and storm commandos so that might not be it.

12 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Vader’s TIE Advanced is long overdue for a remake, so that would be my top pick. A R1 TIE Reaper or scaled-down TIE Striker would both be good choices, though their screen time has been far more limited; I would put them below Vader’s TIE in order of likelihood. The TIE Defender, while significant from a plot standpoint, has only appeared in Rebels, and the TIE Avenger is almost certainly a prototype that gets destroyed in Andor S2 (as we never see it again!), so those are the least likely to appear (unless we get a decent number of Andor sets). 

Fair enough. I guess that the earliest we could see a Tie Defender from is 2026/27, since Thrawn will probably start up production on them again now that he’s back.

A Tie Defender vs New Republic A-Wing set with Zeb and Thrawn could double as a Mando-verse and Rebels set therefore enticing two markets at once.


Unrelated I know, but does anyone else hope that Eli Vanto, Commodore Karyn Faro and the Chiss Ascendancy will have some roles to play in the upcoming Heir to the Empire movie? I finished reading the canon Thrawn and Thrawn Ascendancy trilogies a few weeks ago (they are phenomenal btw) and want to see them in Live-Action.
 

(It would be funny if at the start of the Heir to the Empire movie Thrawn says: “Imperial Remnant? What a Joke.” And takes his and Pellaeon’s Fleet back with him to the Chiss Ascendancy to fight the Grysks.)

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8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I feel like this is referencing something I haven't heard regarding the venator-

As for "a child does not care because of young age"- for something like Thrawn not having the correct number of code cylinders or whatever, this is absolutely true. 99.99% of kids- unless told about it by a whiny youtuber they look up to- wouldn't even NOTICE that inaccuracy, much less care.

Once, in school, my pupils noticed when I had a new strap on one of my watches. The only difference to the old one was the seam stitching technique. Most adults may not have noticed but as a teacher I am under the children's scrutiny and that is very thorough. This is something you are explicitely told when becoming a teacher, btw., so even the state knows.

Children can be exceptionally attentive, because they are in an age when the brain develops rapidly and learning is as easy as it is important for said development (kind of the reason why we put them in school that age, really). So why would that attention exclude their favourite toy? On the contrary, Lego being a very expensive toy – one big set a year, usually for Christmas, is the rule for all but the wealthy parents – means that kids hold it to the standards Lego itself proclaims: being the best in quality.

Saying an inaccuracy does not matter because it is a toy for younger people not only underestimates them, it is downright condescending. It is no coincidence that such statements come from adults. ...and obviously ignoring that Lego does aim at adults, too.

2 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Even then, those hypothetical kids who don't care? Well, the figure being accurate won't make them like it any less. It should be trivially easy to get these details right and please everyone. The less-invested ones still get their cool-looking figure, but the ones who do care can also be happy that it's accurate. 

A good point, indeed. Many inaccuracies are not even cost saving. They are stupid mistakes.

And I for one resent the notions that stupidity is ok for kids.

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