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[Darth_Bane13]

The Mandalorian is really overrated, I haven't seen s3 but s2 was just a cameo fest of fan favorite characters. The actual writing is rather poor with the most simplistic bare bones plot something a 12 year old would come up playing with his toys

[Mandalorianknight]

53 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Okay, cool. I'm not one of them tho.

I hate this side of Star Wars. After Season 3 a lot more people start realising that—and to lesser extent after TBoBF and Season 2.

I'm sorry, I know you have the word "Mandalorian" in your nickname so you probably love it or at least like it, but I'm completely disinterested in this project.

I've called myself Mandoknight online since before the show was announced.

You'd really say Mando is worse than all the saga films?

Anyway, my wider point is that star wars has never been known for the movies being The Godfather quality. Yeah, mando and grogu is probably just going to be a fun little adventure without much deep characterization or substance, but I think the same can be said of a few of the movies, too. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

8 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

You'd really say Mando is worse than all the saga films?

I don't know if it's worse per se, but I'd prefer to watch The Rise of Skywalker ten times over than a single episode of Season 3.

[AD_Bricks]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Could you DM me the name, I legitimately don't know what this is.

Have just done so.

[Samppu]

4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

The Mandalorian is really overrated, I haven't seen s3 but s2 was just a cameo fest of fan favorite characters. The actual writing is rather poor with the most simplistic bare bones plot something a 12 year old would come up playing with his toys

I agree, and I was a little confused why the series earned so much plaudit in the beginning considering that mostly nothing major happens during the first season..

However, I don't blame the creators entirely, because it is clear they were (are) being governed by Disney officers, which shows in many ways.
For one thing, the budget per episode is small. No big cities or exotic planets or big fights. Mostly all fighting is small scale skirmishes, and locations compare to those that you would see in fan made movies. Mostly regular forest terrain, perhaps a blue fish here or there reminding us that it is still Star Wars. It feels like that the whole project was initially a B class addition to the lore from Disney's perspective.

For another thing, the creators clearly were forbidden to use the Expanded Universe as their inspiration during the first season, as if Kathleen had not made up her mind, how the whole series should connect to the rest of the lore, or should it even be entirely separate from it. For this reason the entire first season goes from one individual episode to another, almost none of which builds any greater story arch or connection to the things we might already recognize. 
Then suddenly in the season two it appears as if Kathleen got excited that ok boys, you actually scored some fame, now you can refer to anything you want. And then they do. Suddenly we get Boba Fett, Luke Skywalker, even Ahsoka and Thrawn, and dark troopers etc. All of which in principle could have been in the first season already, but none were.

Then there is the Disney contract, which includes at least the following things:

Main character has to be an orphan. Check [x]
(And not just Din Djarin... Think about other Disney Star Wars heroes. Even Han Solo who in the original Expanded Universe was from a happy middle class Corellian family.)
No excessive violence. Check [x]
In fact, preferably no violence to any person with a normal face. Check [x]
(This is why we don't see Imperial officers all that much, not in Mandalorian, not in Jedi Fallen Order either...)
Moreover, no killing. Check [x]
(The only killing by the main character in Mandalorian 1 & 2 happens in the pilot, and even that is caused by getting cut in half by a door, not directly killed by the main character. If you wish, you can exercise similar thought play on Jedi Fallen Order... Stormtroopers do not count.)
You can imagine how this list continues...

But if anything to be praised, Filoni and Favreau had the most genius insight regarding these limitations. Think about it yourself: if you want to create a looming and mysterious, badass character who appears mighty and violent, how could you possibly do that with all the previous limitations and more?
Indeed, put a baby on his lap! Then every time he intends to shoot someone, make the baby show its big baby eyes, and the badass character can put the pistol in his pocket while still retaining his aura of being a badass bountyhunter who in other circumstances would have pulled the trigger.

Still, peace to all who enjoyed it, Mandalorian is an adorable and entertaining show with funny humor and sympathetic characters, and I liked to watch it as well.
Personally I just wished for something different.
In this case, it was for something dirty and ethically problematic from the premise of a main character, who is a professional killer. In the general case for Star Wars, it has been for something epic, intriguing, philosophically or morally challenging choices with sometimes even poetic touch to their presentation (like in Revenge of the Sith, particularly the book), not meme humor, dogmatism and you know the rest.

Yet when it comes to Lego, Mandalorian has brought us mesmerizing parts for one's own community of Mandalorians. This is a bid deal at least for me. After all, I do love the Mandalorians as a people in Star Wars, and they heavily populate my personal Star Wars universe, Lego and otherwise. We probably would have not seen the two battlepacks with them and all the other Mandalorian parts without the show.


- Samppu



 

Edited August 11 by Samppu

[Llewop]

I know we are going away from set discussion but

does anyone actually like Star Wars here? 90% of posts are just “I don’t like this” “Disney does this” 

it gets really boring I’m not a die hard fan and there are issues but overall I’ve enjoyed most of SW stuff that has come out. But there is so much it’s impossible for it to cater to anyone I think we are lucky and privileged to be getting the amount of content we’ve been getting. 

im still not sure about why Mando and Grogu is a film rather than a Mando series 4. But I’m hoping that with a film budget it might be cool, also means hopefully 2026 we will get a whole film wave for the film which is definitely going to have Zeb and the AT-RT in.

im not sure why people are surprised about people coming back for Andor S2, the series was always going to end at the start of rogue 1, so we always going to get how he met K2S0, more Saw, the only thing im surprised was Krennic but that’s probably more ISB related. 

it’d be nice to get a new U-wing if they did more Andor sets, I have a feeling season 2 might have more potential for Lego to do sets of. 

[AD_Bricks]

52 minutes ago, Llewop said:

does anyone actually like Star Wars here? 90% of posts are just “I don’t like this” “Disney does this” 

I have been summoned!

Disney has its issues, but I've enjoyed watching just about every recent Star Wars movie or show with the exception of Resistance. Acolyte was pretty great, Obi-Wan was okay, BOBF didn't meet expectations but was good, Mando S2 is almost on par with TCW for me, both of which are close behind Andor, etc. I'm still disappointed that Freemaker Adventures got removed from Disney plus ages ago as I've been wanting to rewatch it.

[commdr_neyo]

2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

I'm still disappointed that Freemaker Adventures got removed from Disney plus ages ago as I've been wanting to rewatch it.

I was hestitant to reply because this is getting off topic, but I think you can still watch the Freemaker Adventures here. Full episodes are probably on 'other' streaming sites as well.

[CallumPears]

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

does anyone actually like Star Wars here? 90% of posts are just “I don’t like this” “Disney does this”

Love it in general, there's just been a lot of bad stuff coming out recently (aside from Andor and a couple other things here and there). 

[AD_Bricks]

15 minutes ago, commdr_neyo said:

I was hestitant to reply because this is getting off topic, but I think you can still watch the Freemaker Adventures here. Full episodes are probably on 'other' streaming sites as well.

Oh my god, this is wonderful, thanks so much!

[Agent Kallus]

13 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

The Mandalorian is really overrated, I haven't seen s3 but s2 was just a cameo fest of fan favorite characters. The actual writing is rather poor with the most simplistic bare bones plot something a 12 year old would come up playing with his toys

Oh I get it, this isn't really the Lego Star wars set discussion thread, it's the 'Star wars Yuck peoples yum thread' and I'm tired of it.

I mention that the Accolyte was popular ( it was, fan reception =/= general public viewing figures) and get flooded with Nuh-uh or people start hating on Mando ( harder to find data on whether something is overrated as that's an opinion, but needless to say I enjoyed it and it's got the highest rotten tomatoes score for a reason) I've seen bitching about Andor too, and I'll admit im probably guilty about it when ut comes to episode 9 The Rise of Skywalker. Not liking something is fine and makes sense, no-one likes everything but the topic is getting constantly derailed by bitching about these shows and movies.

[CloneCommando99]

Honestly I find that the best things that Disney has released (aside from animation) are: Rogue One, Mando S1&2, Andor (my king!!!) and the Jedi Games (Cal is the best Disney era jedi, you can’t convince me otherwise)

It’s a shame how 3 out of 4 of those aren’t getting the set coverage they deserve.

 

Anywho. Seeing that the Marvel logo is going for new variants of the main characters what are some of the variants you’d like to see in the SW logo?

Mine are any of: Obi-wan Kenobi (TCW armour), Vader (battle damaged), Luke Skywalker (orange lightsaber), Leia (Senator), MARA JADE!!!!, Sith Yoda, Cadet Han Solo and MARA JADE!!!

[BrickBob Studpants]

10 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Anywho. Seeing that the Marvel logo is going for new variants of the main characters what are some of the variants you’d like to see in the SW logo?

Wasn’t it already confirmed that the SW logo doesn’t come with any minifigs?

[ARC2149Nova]

Some people love everything Star Wars (which is absurd to me, personally). Other people like select Star Wars. Both are equally valid and both can be considered "Real fans". Being a fan doesn't mean liking everything a franchise does. I should know, I follow American sports. 

That said, I've lost all interest in anything "New Star Wars", be that Andor, more Mando (despite liking both shows overall), Skeleton Crew (), etc. If we get cool LEGO parts/figures, I'm all for it. But I'm much more invested in doing my own stuff set in or around the Star Wars universe. Mando & Grogu just screams marketing tactic, Skeleton Crew really has no reason to exist besides being the Goonies in space, and there's just too much content for any of it to really feel special. I miss the days of 6 films, 2-3 cartoons and specials everybody hated  We got some of the best LEGO sets in that time period too, and I will absolutely die on that hill.

Edited August 12 by ARC2149Nova

[Black Falcon]

4 hours ago, Llewop said:

I know we are going away from set discussion but

does anyone actually like Star Wars here? 90% of posts are just “I don’t like this” “Disney does this” 

it gets really boring I’m not a die hard fan and there are issues but overall I’ve enjoyed most of SW stuff that has come out. But there is so much it’s impossible for it to cater to anyone I think we are lucky and privileged to be getting the amount of content we’ve been getting. 

We all might get eaten by a Rancor for it, but I have to agree here. One of the reasons I often just scroll though this thread and don´t read everything. Another is, that while I am enjoying Star Wars, watched the Films (well 1-7 at least), and at least the unanimated Series (not watched Akolyte yet) I maybe understand half of what is written here only ;). And so far I am glad about the series they made and enjoyed all of the ones I watched.

14 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Some people love everything Star Wars (which is absurd to me, personally). Other people like select Star Wars. Both are equally valid and both can be considered "Real fans". Being a fan doesn't mean liking everything a franchise does. I should know, I follow American sports. 

Sure everyone has their own taste and that is totally fine. But it is really a matter of how it is worded - and how often. I mean, I am here to enjoy a hobby and while that certainly is Lego in this Forum, I just don´t want to see to much negativity really. There is enough of that on the outsideworld, the news, and I really don´t need it in a place where people should enjoy their hobbies together - as mentioned above, critique is fine, and so is your post, no worries. But some people seem to use every chance they get to word what they don´t like, where they rather should try to see the positive maybe. 

[ToaDraco]

1 hour ago, Black Falcon said:

We all might get eaten by a Rancor for it, but I have to agree here. One of the reasons I often just scroll though this thread and don´t read everything. Another is, that while I am enjoying Star Wars, watched the Films (well 1-7 at least), and at least the unanimated Series (not watched Akolyte yet) I maybe understand half of what is written here only ;). And so far I am glad about the series they made and enjoyed all of the ones I watched.

Sure everyone has their own taste and that is totally fine. But it is really a matter of how it is worded - and how often. I mean, I am here to enjoy a hobby and while that certainly is Lego in this Forum, I just don´t want to see to much negativity really. There is enough of that on the outsideworld, the news, and I really don´t need it in a place where people should enjoy their hobbies together - as mentioned above, critique is fine, and so is your post, no worries. But some people seem to use every chance they get to word what they don´t like, where they rather should try to see the positive maybe. 

I couldn't agree more! It's incredibly exhausting to see the same talking points the fandom menace repeats ad-nausium. I happen to actually love Star Wars and even the projects I don't enjoy as much(the sequel trilogy), I can still find things in it that I do like and I focus my energy on that. I don't understand the desire to be so negative all the time--and even worse-- needlessly insult the projects you don't like and the people involved in them and the people who like them, that's intolerable. Occasional constructive criticism is one thing, but most of it is whining pedantics and hatefulness.

As for set potential for upcoming projects, I really hope we get a 2nd Skeleton Crew set. The trailer was very promising and the droid with a peg leg looks to be very important. Plus, the (presumably)pirate aliens on display with Vane are so cool and I need figures of them and any others that are in the show. I am definitely getting the Onyx Cinder, it's such a cool ship design and it appears to be the core mcguffin of the series.

I still think the Mandalorian and Grogu is a terrible name for the movie, but the shots they showed were very exciting. Zeb absolutely needs a new figure and he better have the fawn legs. As a big AT-RT fan, I was very happy to see it in live-action again. Also, as much as I love the Razor Crest and I'm happy to see it return, I fear it means LEGO will likely waste a set slot on an updated Razor Crest. 

I would like to see Andor get a set for season 2 but I would really want the Fondor Haulcraft, as it will undoubtedly feature heavily again, but I am also not opposed to a new U-Wing since I missed out on the first one and it has been sufficiently long enough since the Rogue One wave to bring out a new one. I also badly want them to bring back the K2-SO figure as I missed the original and it's very expensive to try and get on the aftermarket.

Edited August 12 by ToaDraco

[BrickBob Studpants]

14 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

As for set potential for upcoming projects, I really hope we get a 2nd Skeleton Crew set. The trailer was very promising and the droid with a peg leg looks to be very important. Plus, the (presumably)pirate aliens on display with Vane are so cool and I need figures of them and any others that are in the show. I am definitely getting the Onyx Cinder, it's such a cool ship design and it appears to be the core mcguffin of the series.

It’s pretty annoying that SM-33 is not included in the set, given that he’s the ship’s first mate  Agreed, I’m definitely hoping for a second set too since we need more of these pirates other than Vane! I’m glad we got the Onyx Cinder at least, but the show has a lot more set potential based on the trailer alone.

17 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

Also, as much as I love the Razor Crest and I'm happy to see it return, I fear it means LEGO will likely waste a set slot on an updated Razor Crest. 

Has it been confirmed to be in the movie? The trailer used a lot of stock footage after all

[ToaDraco]

10 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Has it been confirmed to be in the movie? The trailer used a lot of stock footage after all

Considering that brand new shot of Zeb was of him piloting a Razor Crest? I'm going to say very much yes. It's an iconic ship for The Mandalorian to be sure, so it makes sense that he's going to find himself a new one.

[BrickBob Studpants]

6 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

Considering that brand new shot of Zeb was of him piloting a Razor Crest? I'm going to say very much yes. It's an iconic ship for The Mandalorian to be sure, so it makes sense that he's going to find himself a new one.

Oh, I didn’t realise what kind of ship Zeb was piloting  Interesting. Yeah, seems likely that one of the sets will be a new Razorcrest then. I wonder what happens to Din’s N-1 then!

Also, more Anzellans! Maybe this is finally our chance  Skipping Babu Frik is still one of the biggest injustices in the 25 years of this theme in my opinion, closely followed by the cancelled bounty hunter chase remake

[McMurder_them_softly]

Having re-watched AOTC lately, I am really excited for the rumored Acclamator! Might not be the best overall film for some, but wow that ending scene and score. I love it. 

[JohnTPT17]

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

Considering that brand new shot of Zeb was of him piloting a Razor Crest? I'm going to say very much yes. It's an iconic ship for The Mandalorian to be sure, so it makes sense that he's going to find himself a new one.

Zeb's the only one of the Ghost crew I'm missing, so having a chance at getting a reprint is good! Even if he's in a $100+ set, I'm sure people will be parting it out and I can get him on Bricklink without too much hassle.

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

he better have the fawn legs

Zeb is fairly tall and has his hand-feet, but I don't think satyr legs would be right for him... I think normal legs would look just fine, IMO.

[MaximillianRebo]

Whether or not the next entry in the Mando story needs to be a film or TV season, Lego have in the past dedicated large waves to film tie-ins, as opposed to the two or three sets (if that) that a season of a show receives. Fingers crossed we continue to see this when the new film drops.

[Agent Kallus]

I wonder if these movies ( The Mandalorian and Grogu, Heir the Empire remix, Dawn of the Jedi remix, New Jedi order Remix and so on) will get full tie in waves, the star wars theme has changed a lot since 2019. 

Full Minifig scale waves for new content would be very nice to see.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

1 hour ago, JohnTPT17 said:

Zeb is fairly tall and has his hand-feet, but I don't think satyr legs would be right for him... I think normal legs would look just fine, IMO.

That’s true. The satyr legs would work well for Geonosians, who have backwards knees, but Zeb’s knees bend the normal way, so it would definitely be more inaccurate to give him the satyr legs. (I think people probably get confused at his legs bending backwards because the heels of his feet are high off the ground.)

[Samppu]

9 hours ago, Llewop said:

I know we are going away from set discussion but

does anyone actually like Star Wars here? 90% of posts are just “I don’t like this” “Disney does this”  

A valid notion. And I will stop diverging the set discussion to this comment, but I think it might do some good to remind us all about the things, why we do this in the first place.

So to cheer the atmosphere up on my behalf, I am a die hard fan for the original movies and I have read almost every single book, and many of the comics of the original Expanded Universe, and I have enjoyed some selected bits of the Disney content as well. 

What got me into Star Wars was Episode IV, when I saw it on television, when I was 9 (now 32). And then the original trilogy thereafter, but that was a childhood adventure for me, where the Rebels were good, and the Empire was bad, and the good finally beats the evil. The kind of black-and-white but still mesmerizing and intriguing story with desperation, betrayal, arrogance, growth, defiance and resolve, which as themes deeply engaged me as a child, who by then only understood the world from the perspective of an innocent and safe worldview with no major conflict or evil in it.
And most importantly, you could imagine yourself as a Jedi (or some other hero, but for the 90% of us, I would bet it is a Jedi) in that Universe, being part of the events or creating your own story. The latter was a quite literal joy with the Legos.

Yet then as a teenager that Universe grew darker, happily coinciding with my own growth at the time. There was a massive war, which was governed by the same person on both sides, ruthlessly letting everyone die for nothing to gain power for himself. A fatherly figure, who disguised something dark beneath the smile, but that darkness held secrets not even the Jedi would dare to know. And then a young man tragically destined to trade everything he had for those secrets, you as a by-stander wondering and eerily hoping that he could still choose otherwise. 

All of this were part of my mental growing as a teen, and it grew into an escapistic mirror of reality. A version of a different life and realm, which I could control myself and where I could project any fantasized twisted human behavior I ever wanted. Both in an imaginary world and with the physical adaptation with Legos.

Yet there was still something more to become. I started to read the books, and the whole reality of Star Wars went into revolution. First in seemingly minor ways. Thrawn showed that you don't need to be a Jedi to have awe-inspiring power. C'baoth turned out to be a twisted image of cardinal evil breaking my illusion that evil was based on some universal source of black energy, when the cloned Jedi master in fact was merely a chaotic psychopath as a result of mental imbalance. But more major insights were coming up. The rebels finally won the war, but were on the edge of another - with themselves. They were no longer simply good, but faced with the same difficult decision as the Empire was before. Engage in disputes with violence and become the mirror of the Empire they destroyed before? Or to withdraw and let the member worlds of the New Republic fall into chaos and decay? If not before, finally the prophesized Yuuzhan Vong made the Empire and efficient authoritarian regime seem like a missed opportunity.

These kinds of situations occupy my personal realm of Star Wars nowadays, in mental imagery and in my Lego version of the Universe. I actually play in that world, where I have built factions with armies and vehicles, planets with civilians (with certain adjustments to have a sensible scale in things, but that is another topic) and characters with rich and contradicted backstories. The only difference to the way I used to play as a child is that I nowadays use dice (not very unlike to the role playing games and some strategic board games) in order to simulate luck and coincidence, so that I cannot entirely control every outcome of a decision or a battle. My characters can even die, and it kinda even feels a bit sad to give up of one that you really started to like just because the dice showed you that he got a mortal wound into his chest in a firefight.

So this paints some picture, hopefully a little bit more cheerful one for a while, why I love Star Wars, and consequently Lego Star Wars. I build my Universe 99% of my own MOCs (simply because I love the building aspect of Legos as well), so the sets have news value to me mostly from the perspective of the minifigure parts, even if I occasionally appreciate elegant and innovative, or nostalgic, designs of the sets as well. They are mesmerizing and I always look after them and sometimes take inspiration from them. Surely getting the Desert Skiff (Nien Numb and the Sullustan head!) and a few dropship vs. speeder battlepacks when they land on the shelves.


- Samppu