LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[CloneCommando99]

I wonder why Lego doesn’t make videogame sets.

I get that they’ve said that JFO is too violent, and that’s a relatively reasonable excuse.

But there is literally no logical reason why Lego shouldn’t release an Outlaws set to tie-in with release.

Edit: Damn guys. We made it to 200. And the year’s not even over yet. Let’s try get another 100 in before the 2025 thread opens.

Edited July 31 by CloneCommando99

[Big_Daddy]

^We might just get to 300 within a few days if @MKJoshA would allow us to discuss The Acolyte

[THELEGOBATMAN]

We just got our first look at Skeleton Crew with a release date (December 3rd).

They've already revealed the set, but at least now they can say it's based on something we've actually seen.

Edited July 31 by THELEGOBATMAN

[Paul11283652]

The Dark Falcon and the Star Destroyer are already out of stock within 90mins of being released in Australia.

[Llewop]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I wonder why Lego doesn’t make videogame sets.

I get that they’ve said that JFO is too violent, and that’s a relatively reasonable excuse.

But there is literally no logical reason why Lego shouldn’t release an Outlaws set to tie-in with release.

Edit: Damn guys. We made it to 200. And the year’s not even over yet. Let’s try get another 100 in before the 2025 thread opens.

It’s not impossible. Force unleashed got a set, kotor got a few, even battlefront. They may have held out in case there was a small chance of Jfo series or film but with so much new media for SW out it’s impossible to keep up with everything 

[Meaf]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I wonder why Lego doesn’t make videogame sets.

I get that they’ve said that JFO is too violent, and that’s a relatively reasonable excuse.

But there is literally no logical reason why Lego shouldn’t release an Outlaws set to tie-in with release.

I think in the case of both the Jedi games and Outlaws, it's just a matter of popularity and the limited number of potential sets Lego can make. As was discussed at length a few days ago, Lego is making less and less playsets these days. That combined with the sheer volume of new Star Wars media releasing means that they can only cover so much in Lego form. I have no idea about the relative popularity of Outlaws, but we know that JFO sold over 10 million and the sequel sold around that or maybe even a little more (there's not much information on this though, beyond the confirmation that it sold better at launch). 10 million people is a lot, but a large amount of that number are people who would not be interested in a Lego set, either because they didn't actually play that much of the game (if you look at the percentage of people that have trophies on the PlayStation you'll usually find that a lot people do not actually get very far in their games) or because they aren't interested in Lego. If we're being generous here maybe that leaves 5 million people who'd be interested. 5 million is a lot, sure, but think about how many people have seen the Star Wars movies, and would buy a Lego set for themselves or a kid they know. 

I think the only real point of comparison are probably some of the less popular Star Wars Disney+ series, but you have to remember that Lego can't really predict how popular those will be. The Mandalorian ended up getting way bigger than anyone ever anticipated, so I'm sure Lego probably doesn't want to potentially miss out on that kind of money. And there's also something to be said for the differences in marketing between movies/TV and videogames; the former often get tons of tie-in media and merchandise at release as a form of marketing, whereas games usually don't get a ton of merch until they're already popular. 

Sorry for the long post (especially since I'm not even really responding directly to what you mentioned), but generally speaking I think this is the real reason why they don't touch games these days. If the content pipeline for shows and movies slows down in the future, maybe we'll see some game-based sets again, but for now I think there's just way too much other stuff with more eyes on it.

[starlego98]

16 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think they did, did they? At least, not on my Throne Room vader or the new Dark Falcon one. He never has yellow eyes in the movies (aside from ROTS on Mustafar, which I know is technically vader but, like, c'mon, you know what I mean when I say vader.), so it makes sense they wouldn't do it for the figure.

Well, when they released the darth vader vs obi wan set, they could give him sith eyes, you can see them on the show

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I wonder why Lego doesn’t make videogame sets.

I get that they’ve said that JFO is too violent, and that’s a relatively reasonable excuse.

But there is literally no logical reason why Lego shouldn’t release an Outlaws set to tie-in with release.

I don't follow the "JFO is too violent". Being a videogame, the violence is more touched on than something like Mando or ROTS even if it's not more violent than those, but I think that answer was still not their real reason, though it may have even been the one the designer was told. I think it seems fairly clear that they just didn't know if JFO sets would sell at the time. If BD did well I could see one around the release of the third game.

Outlaws is in the same boat JFO was, and I don't see it being as popular as JFO ended up being either. Plus, gambling's a fair part of the game, and while it's gambling assumably unpurchasable game-only currency as part of a story/minigame, and not gambling real money through a videogame, I could 100% see lego not understanding the distinction.

2 hours ago, starlego98 said:

Well, when they released the darth vader vs obi wan set, they could give him sith eyes, you can see them on the show

 I mean, it was before they started pupilless eyes for sith, and even with sith eyes in general, I don't think we see them until the final episode, which I doubt lego was provided with much art/info for.

Technically speaking, you're not entirely wrong, I just don't really follow your point.

Edited July 31 by Mandalorianknight

[Lego Nostalgia]

22 hours ago, Paul11283652 said:

The Dark Falcon and the Star Destroyer are already out of stock within 90mins of being released in Australia.

Why is it always Australia ? it's like a running gag at this point, I'm from Ireland but I always hear that Australia has stock issues.

On 7/31/2024 at 12:43 PM, CloneCommando99 said:

I wonder why Lego doesn’t make videogame sets.

I get that they’ve said that JFO is too violent, and that’s a relatively reasonable excuse.

But there is literally no logical reason why Lego shouldn’t release an Outlaws set to tie-in with release.

Edit: Damn guys. We made it to 200. And the year’s not even over yet. Let’s try get another 100 in before the 2025 thread opens.

JFO is not violent at all, no dismemberment at all

[Alex_South]

not this topic again, talking in circles over the maturity and violence level of an IP Lego has been doing for decades is the deadest horse to keep beating, the bones of said horse have been ground to dust. ROTS proved decades ago that if something will sell the maturity level isn't an issue it's the marketability. Lego doesn't do real world violence but they do fantasy sci-fi violence all day long if it sells. Dune/Avatar/LOTR/Harry Potter...insert 500 other examples over the years

We get anakin burned alive minifigures every couple of years, none of these properties are actually being held back because a soccer mom is gasping somewhere at the levels of violence, it's all about whether or not enough folks will buy the set, that's literally the only thing they care about. If the market is big enough they will make a set. Acolyte wasn't too dark its just mid imo, but my opinion has no bearing on whether or not enough Lego customers like it enough to buy sets of it, if there is real money to be made there will be sets, same goes for outlaws, and Jedi Survivor and anything else.

Lego released a BD minifigure and a buildable figure, and they just did Cal this year, they are clearly just waiting until they know a set will sell huge so they can price it at a premium and sell to the gamer market for big bucks. If outlaws ships 14million copies I am sure we will see a set from that as well.

Edited August 1 by Alex_South
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[MandoLando]

just saw this set on Lego.com. Any idea what part of the Star Wars Canon its from?

Probably from a book or something, right?

Edited August 1 by MandoLando

[icm]

It's the hero ship from the Disney+ series Skeleton Crew, which will premiere on December 3.

[AD_Bricks]

6 hours ago, MandoLando said:

just saw this set on Lego.com. Any idea what part of the Star Wars Canon its from?

Probably from a book or something, right?

As @icm said, it is indeed from Skeleton Crew, which should be coming relatively soon now but keeps getting delayed. The set was purportedly going to release in January but they held it back due to the presumably switched release schedule with Acolyte.

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Why is it always Australia ? it's like a running gag at this point, I'm from Ireland but I always hear that Australia has stock issues.

JFO is not violent at all, no dismemberment at all

I've heard it said in the past that Austrailia has a high concentration of AFOLs for it's population, which combined with the fact that it's an island subcontinent, creates a supply/demand issue that lego doesn't seem to understand how to solve.

I agree it's no worse than most of the movies and live action shows. (Though I'm gonna be EXTREMELY pedantic and point out you can dismember droids and creatures, just not humanoids) Assumably if it is violence, it's moreso that whole "video games held to a stricter violence standard than movies and shows" thing. But I still think it's fairly likely they just didn't make sets since they didn't think it would do well enough for them to sell, and for whatever reason didn't want to say that officially.

[MaximillianRebo]

I'm kinda surprised that the Dark Falcon sold out quicker on Lego.com in Australia than it did at Big W, which had it at 15% below retail price on the day of release. The only time I've ever bought directly from Lego is for exclusives, as other retailers always have cheaper prices on widely available sets. Is it because of points or GWP that people prefer Lego.com?

[mirkwoodspiders]

Skeleton Crew ship might be one of the most unsightly LSW ships I've ever seen. Maybe seeing the show will endear it to me.

[Black Falcon]

6 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

I'm kinda surprised that the Dark Falcon sold out quicker on Lego.com in Australia than it did at Big W, which had it at 15% below retail price on the day of release. The only time I've ever bought directly from Lego is for exclusives, as other retailers always have cheaper prices on widely available sets. Is it because of points or GWP that people prefer Lego.com?

Honestly, on 15% off Lego is just the better deal with GWP and Insiders Points. That the GWP we have now was sold out pretty quick last time and as such seems to have a high demand surely helps.

[Lego Nostalgia]

8 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Skeleton Crew ship might be one of the most unsightly LSW ships I've ever seen. Maybe seeing the show will endear it to me.

The Twilight would like to have a word with you.

[jimmynick]

Please humour me because I'm a bit out of the loop.

What's the deal with the Dark Falcon and Jedi Bob's Starfighter? Has TLG entered its shitposting era?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, jimmynick said:

Please humour me because I'm a bit out of the loop.

What's the deal with the Dark Falcon and Jedi Bob's Starfighter? Has TLG entered its shitposting era?

Basically.

They are based on an upcoming Disney+ special, Rebuild the Galaxy. It kind of just includes the most random stuff you can think of—Darth Jar Jar Binks, Jedi Bob, White Vader, Summer Luke Skywalker, a combination of an X-Wing and a TIE Fighter, Dark Millennium Falcon etc.

[Llewop]

11 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Basically.

They are based on an upcoming Disney+ special, Rebuild the Galaxy. It kind of just includes the most random stuff you can think of—Darth Jar Jar Binks, Jedi Bob, White Vader, Summer Luke Skywalker, a combination of an X-Wing and a TIE Fighter, Dark Millennium Falcon etc.

The trailer also showed AT-ATs with rebel logos on, it and like ewok bounty hunters its looks random but kids will probably love it

[SketchBrick]

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Basically.

They are based on an upcoming Disney+ special, Rebuild the Galaxy. It kind of just includes the most random stuff you can think of—Darth Jar Jar Binks, Jedi Bob, White Vader, Summer Luke Skywalker, a combination of an X-Wing and a TIE Fighter, Dark Millennium Falcon etc.

I'm totally fine with getting all this off-the-wall stuff from LSW. The problem these days is that with so few regular sets, allocating 20% of the theme's playsets to a one-off animated special means we are getting even fewer "normal" playsets. If they would go back to 25+ LSW playsets a year, 3 RTG sets wouldn't really be getting in the way.

[Big_Daddy]

15 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Skeleton Crew ship might be one of the most unsightly LSW ships I've ever seen. Maybe seeing the show will endear it to me.

It's not ugly per se, but it doesn't really look Star Wars-y. As if it belongs to another, more generic sci-fi universe.

[mirkwoodspiders]

7 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

The Twilight would like to have a word with you.

Lol I would actually take that over Onyx Cinder

15 minutes ago, Big_Daddy said:

It's not ugly per se, but it doesn't really look Star Wars-y. As if it belongs to another, more generic sci-fi universe.

That's fair. The word that came to mind when I first saw it was "jagged".

Edited August 2 by mirkwoodspiders

[Archer]

4 hours ago, Big_Daddy said:

It's not ugly per se, but it doesn't really look Star Wars-y. As if it belongs to another, more generic sci-fi universe.

 

19 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Skeleton Crew ship might be one of the most unsightly LSW ships I've ever seen. Maybe seeing the show will endear it to me.

I think They chose the absolute worst angle to show the ship from in the above photo to be fair. It definitely looks better from above and in flight mode. As far as the in universe design this ship is very big so its design is more of a flying base, a utilitarian freighter, than a sleek starship.