LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[TeufelHund]

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

 my reaction to the people getting way too hateful over the Acolyte and believing in the manufactured outrage.

I think ONE set would be nice. Every single Star Wars show and movie should at least get one. 

What set could they do though? The show featured almost no memorable locations, spaceships or characters. Maybe a few people might be interested in Smilo Ren's helmet but other than that you're just left with a bunch of Jedi in the same outfit, a bunch of witches in the same outfit and the twins.

Hasbro are doing the bare minimum with its action figure range for the Acolyte and those will likely be lining bargain bins for years. Lego would be wise to stay well away.

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, TeufelHund said:

What set could they do though? The show featured almost no memorable locations, spaceships or characters. Maybe a few people might be interested in Smilo Ren's helmet but other than that you're just left with a bunch of Jedi in the same outfit, a bunch of witches in the same outfit and the twins.

Hasbro are doing the bare minimum with its action figure range for the Acolyte and those will likely be lining bargain bins for years. Lego would be wise to stay well away.

Could easily do a final duel from the last episode with the 4 main characters in. 

another set with a Jedi ship with some high republic Jedi that’s pretty much it but they’d sell well enough.

they’d sell better than a bunch of droid builds or a ship from a series that hasn’t had an official trailer yet or a buildable figure of a character who annoys me more than anyone else in all of SW. it’d sell more than a bunch of meme sets

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, TeufelHund said:

What set could they do though? The show featured almost no memorable locations, spaceships or characters.

The Exile II is a cool and pretty unique design though. And Qimir and Sol at least are plenty memorable I’d say (Yord and Jecki too in my opinion) 

Couldn’t agree more with @ToaDraco. Every show or movie should at least have one set to have the basics covered. I don’t like having obvious gaps in my collection. Marvel, DC, WW, PotC, JW, and Indy have all been guilty of this, and it’s sad to add SW to that list

[MaximillianRebo]

2 hours ago, TeufelHund said:

What set could they do though? The show featured almost no memorable locations, spaceships or characters. Maybe a few people might be interested in Smilo Ren's helmet but other than that you're just left with a bunch of Jedi in the same outfit, a bunch of witches in the same outfit and the twins.

It wouldn't be hard to do the main Jedi cruiser from the show at a similar scale to say, the Onyx Cinder. The way the front part of the ship splits off from the main engines would be perfect to represent in Lego (or at least it would be from my Classic Space perspective) A typical six minifig lineup for this size set could give Sol, Osha, Yord and Jecki, plus Mae and Qimir as 'conflict'.

Probably the main reason we haven't seen it is the supposed scheduling swap between this and Skeleton Crew, hence why we do have the Onyx Cinder with next to no information about that show and the Acolyte with zero sets. The overall small number of sets this year doesn't help either; fewer playscale sets and fewer sets total means that many things are going to be missed.

Regardless of what clickbaity YouTubers think about the show, it's odd that there isn't a single Acolyte set available, but there is a large 'flagship' set from a largely unknown, yet to be released show.

Edited July 30 by MaximillianRebo
Ninja'd by several other posters!

[starlego98]

About the sith eyes design I wonder why they did put sith eyes on the new Vader

[ToaDraco]

3 hours ago, TeufelHund said:

What set could they do though? The show featured almost no memorable locations, spaceships or characters. Maybe a few people might be interested in Smilo Ren's helmet but other than that you're just left with a bunch of Jedi in the same outfit, a bunch of witches in the same outfit and the twins.

Hasbro are doing the bare minimum with its action figure range for the Acolyte and those will likely be lining bargain bins for years. Lego would be wise to stay well away.

How about the main Jedi cruiser used throughout the show? Or the witches' fortress where half the show takes place? Your blind distaste for the show does not mean there isn't inherent set potential and as for the figures, are you kidding? We have a sizeable variety of Jedi of multiple species, Bazil the little Otter guy, and the Stranger with his grinning helmet. There is plenty of excellent figure potential and saying they shouldn't do them because the Jedi's outfits are similar is a laughable take when nearly all Jedi robes have looked pretty much the same for most of the franchise's history.

Look, I get a very vocal group of people dislike the show but plenty of people did like it. It's still a Star Wars property and still deserves at least one set. 

Edited July 30 by ToaDraco

[ARC2149Nova]

38 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

How about the main Jedi cruiser used throughout the show? Or the witches' fortress where half the show takes place? Your blind distaste for the show does not mean there isn't inherent set potential and as for the figures, are you kidding? We have a sizeable variety of Jedi of multiple species, Bazil the little Otter guy, and the Stranger with his grinning helmet. There is plenty of excellent figure potential and saying they shouldn't do them because the Jedi's outfits are similar is a laughable take when nearly all Jedi robes have looked pretty much the same for most of the franchise's history.

Look, I get a very vocal group of people dislike the show but plenty of people did like it. It's still a Star Wars property and still deserves at least one set. 

It deserves nothing. A lot of great Star Wars content goes uncovered. 

In all seriousness, though, if we got Fort Coven before a Jedi Temple, Theed Palace, or an Arena, LEGO's got some 'splaining to do.

In any case, we'll wait and see. LEGO might not have wanted to cover the show for one reason or another, volatile release schedules could've upset a potential tie-in launch, we don't know. I mean, five years later and we still don't have The Eternal Sheev. If you're gonna wait for Acolyte sets, better pack a rebreather.

[Agent Kallus]

34 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

 

Look, I get a very vocal group of people dislike the show but plenty of people did like it. It's still a Star Wars property and still deserves at least one set. 

Amen to that.

People who don't like it are often in echo chambers so they think no one likes it but actually it's done pretty well from what I've seen. I enjoyed it ( not saying it's perfect, they did mishandle one of my favourite characters from the High Republic books), but even if you didn't we don't them to set a precedent where they can just ignore shows and stuff. 

Now the show isn't inappropriate for children or anything ( at least not more so than the other more intense SW things), and it had a lot more hype pre-release than Skeleton crew ( which TBH looks like more of the same whereas the Accolyte was something difficult) so I'm still hoping something might come. I mean it's very obvious that Skeleton crew was initially meant to release first.

(Also there was a vector in the show but it was very blik and you missed it, and it was Yord's not Sol's. It's how he and Tasi arrived on the trade Federation ship)

Anyway the fact that I said I liked a popular show and thought they were missing out by ignoring it, did not need to be followed up by people saying they thought sets on it would sell because they'd seen dislike for the show. I did not enjoy The Rise of Skywalker, but I'm not gonna pretend a revised Palpatine set wouldn't catch some eyes. The sets that do poorly are rarely unique and interesting or are just overpriced in the first place, like the Slab of grey for Obi-wan ( which despite fan reception was one of if not the most popular star wars shows released, especially among kids, iirc only Mando did better) or the insanely price Andor set ( which I would have picked up if I'd realised how poor a job TLG was gonna do at covering most of the shows as I'm not expecting many more Andor sets).

Anyway in other discussion I very much agree that they've messed up Crumbs eyes.

[Flawless Cowboy]

5 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

It deserves nothing. A lot of great Star Wars content goes uncovered

This x1000. You don’t deserve sets for merely existing. 

[Swordy]

 

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

People who don't like it are often in echo chambers so they think no one likes it but actually it's done pretty well from what I've seen.

Meanwhile other people are in an echo chamber of whatever Lucasfilm propagates. It goes both ways, you know.

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Now the show isn't inappropriate for children or anything ( at least not more so than the other more intense SW things)

I’m sorry, and this isn’t just directed at you, but how can you honestly say that with a straight face? How is this becoming the prevailing opinion? You can’t expect everyone who disagrees with this to roll over all in the name of you all just don’t care. Saying “Well, it’s kid-friendly, actually” doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t. Yes, I’m being obtuse, but this isn’t a case where you have any valid points to your argument; just a statement that keeps getting repeated over and over. “It’s a very popular show:” show me the numbers. “Isn’t inappropriate:” tell me why. If you can, then your side and opinion has some validity to it. If you can’t, then it’s simply propaganda.

We could keep going at this for weeks, honestly, and I sense a Rancor lurking nearby, so I’ll make this my final word on the matter: it isn’t appropriate for children, furthermore it’s made by someone who we have no idea where her morals lie, and if LEGO were to not release sets, I could understand why on a moral level and numbers level too. LEGO has lines they won’t cross, and this might be one of them. Of course, that’s only my speculation.

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

(Also there was a vector in the show but it was very blik and you missed it, and it was Yord's not Sol's. It's how he and Tasi arrived on the trade Federation ship)

Ah, I remember that now, yes. Thank you for answering my question!

So what I’m hearing is that we’ll get a Jedi Vector set with He Who Peeks Out of a Cave?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

16 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Where’s this moral discussion coming from all of a sudden?  I don’t remember any outcry when a certain other show’s main character shot an unarmed man begging for his life in the face - without flinching or showing any remorse - and coldly executed another who might have just tested him with a tempting offer  

No idea what the discussion is even about, but it's about Andor, and I'm obsessed with this series. That choice has been haunting him throughout the whole season—literally, as Syril Karn.

The plot of the first three episodes fully focuses on showing us that this single choice has completely destroyed his life on Ferrix. Also, that's just life under oppression. I don't suppose that many people would flinch when killing a Nazi during WW2 in a closed encounter like this.

Furthermore, no one even tries to portray Andor as a morally good character. Especially at first he's extremely selfish, cares only about himself and people close to him, and doesn't want anything to do with "the cause".

Edited July 30 by THELEGOBATMAN

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

No idea what the discussion is even about, but it's about Andor, and I'm obsessed with this series. That choice has been haunting him throughout the whole season—literally, as Syril Karn.

My point was more that there was seemingly no moral issue with a SW series having a cold-blooded killer as its protagonist and (along with Rogue One) depicting the rebels as far less noble and more desperate and morally grey than the OT ever showed them as. But The Acolyte depicting the Jedi Order as flawed (which the PT and TCW also did) is suddenly an issue, so much so that people argue sets should be off the table?  

If Andor got a set, I don’t see why The Acolyte also shouldn’t have at least one. If you don’t like the show, simply don’t buy the sets if they ever release any 

[Swordy]

5 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

But The Acolyte depicting the Jedi Order as flawed (which the PT and TCW also did) is suddenly an issue, so much so that people argue sets should be off the table?  

That’s not my argument. That’s the argument of angry YouTubers who like to clickbait, but not the one of anyone here.

Sure, I wish the Acolyte tried to show how an organization with good intentions becomes corrupted instead of adding more noise to the conversation about the Jedi of the Prequels. Nevertheless, nobody here is arguing that as it’s moral failure.

[GlacierPhoenix]

My personal view is every new Star Wars property should have at least 1 set. No one expected The Mandalorian to take off the way it did and LEGO only had 1 mildly interesting set on the shelves when it launched but because it had Mando people bought it. Then they was Grogu everything in the world of merch, LEGO included. 

Skeleton Crew, at least from how it seems to be Stranger Things in Star Wars, is likely one that they'll be pushing heavily. As such it certainly helps that they have a set out for it. I would have prefered it be a smaller set given the younger audience but the fact we have one is fantastic. 

 

[Alex_South]

18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Mando has done some time-sensitive shots already. Cameras are rolling, so I'm now confident THIS star wars movie is actually on track to release within a few years (Not that I wasn't before- it's mando- but we've had a good number of films waffling around for years now)

This is where we will see focus shift in a year IMO. It feels like behind the scenes lego was told to "go play outside for a bit" which is why they did the meme wave instead of using slots for new show sets in the way they used to for D+. In general it feels like the D+ live action show craze may be coming to an end, nothing new is filming and all focus seems to be on getting a movie in theaters. Next year will be some more filler stuff and ROTS connected sets and then I think we will be gearing up for a big movie wave.

 

[Rwbricks]

Ah, choosing what should be a set based on the amount of screen time it gets. A practice that is most secret to LEGO (see: AT-ST Raider, Wookiee Gunship, First Order Snowspeeder, First Order Heavy Scout Walker, and the Mobile Tac-Pod). Those are just before their affiliated media releases. The Justifier and the Quadjumper both came out *after.* 
 

What I’m most curious about is why LEGO didn’t make a set. Every (or almost every) canon movie or show since TPM (not counting 2003 CW, Visions, or shorts like TotJ) has gotten at least one set, typically upon release. I personally believe that this has nothing to do with the show’s reception, whatever that may be. LEGO sets go into production about a year in advance. Nobody had seen the Acolyte then, so “reception” wasn’t a factor, and people saying “who wants this?” or stuff like that isn’t a factor, either, because I have seen that said for every single show other than the Mandalorian. Also, there have been controversial or proclaimed “not good” movies/shows in the past, but that hasn’t stopped them from getting sets. I mean, conceptually, the idea that the one thing LEGO doesn’t make a set for is the one about a bunch Jedi versus the Sith does not make sense to me. 
 

When I was younger, and to an extent, now, some of the sets I wanted were wanted because they looked cool or came with cool minifigures. There is not currently an available set of a bunch of Jedi versus Sith, so this would fulfill that slot, at least to me. 
 

My current line of thinking is that a set was delayed due to a mixture of the show’s release being changed and also due to potential spoilers. Before the show came out, the Mae and Osha twin aspect wasn’t well known. Additionally, they might not have gotten art of the Sith character (or their identity) but wanted to include them, and so waited until after so it wouldn’t be a spoiler. 
 

This is all just speculation, but, as is the way with our own opinions, I find logic in this line of thinking. Also, I am one of the ones who wants a set based on the Jedi with new robes and Sith with a cool helmet. I am not saying that I would like an Acolyte set before anything else. There is a lot more I would prefer, but if an Acolyte set came out, I might get it. Now, LEGO does not cater specifically to my wants and tastes, as much as I would like that, so we will just have to wait and see what does come out. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

34 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

When I was younger, and to an extent, now, some of the sets I wanted were wanted because they looked cool or came with cool minifigures. There is not currently an available set of a bunch of Jedi versus Sith, so this would fulfill that slot, at least to me. 

Exactly. A cool ship with 3 Jedi, an ex-Jedi, an assassin, and a Sith with a sick helmet? Many would buy such a set on these grounds alone, no matter whether they‘ve seen the show or not

[THELEGOBATMAN]

In my opinion, The Acolyte was somewhere between mediocre and fine. It had some great ideas, and Qimir especially was fantastic. It also had a lot of lacklustre elements, and it didn't deliver on a lot of them.

Would I buy The Acolyte sets? No, unless they made a tiny set with Qimir—and since they'll never make one, the answer is still no.

Saying that, some people here are crazy to think they wouldn't sell. Cool spaceships, varied locations, Jedi, dark side users, lightsabers. Kids would eat that right up.

I hear some people saying "oh, but the series is not for kids, they haven't seen it anyway." But they've seen The Mandalorian? Because those sets have to sell extremely well for LEGO to still be including them in nearly every single wave.

[Lordhelmet]

I am good with an Acolyte set coming out.  Mostly because I wouldn't buy it anyway and it would save me some money in a new wave (especially considering how prices are going).  I have not watched the show so I just am indifferent to a set from it.  

Would people want a Jedi Temple set to be based on the Acolyte?

As far as what is deserved, I would like to see Lego come out with some of the dozens/hundreds of characters or some of the ships and vehicles that they still have not produced in 25 years of Lego Star Wars (dozens?  At least 9 ships from the OT plus all the prequel trilogy).  Seems like after 25 years and hundreds of sets some of these could be more deserved than things from recent shows, but I understand that Lego wants to capitalize on the current stuff.  Thankfully Home One and the Acclimator will be checked of the list next year.  For characters there are dozens of Padme's that have not come out, force ghosts, tons of imperial officers, etc. etc. that don't have anything after 25 years.  It would be nice to see some more "new" minifigs and ships from material that has been around for the full or almost full 25 years of Lego Star Wars.  (Side note Padme could have her own CMF line and that would be a good thing, just 12 different outfits).  

 

[ARC2149Nova]

17 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said:

Would people want a Jedi Temple set to be based on the Acolyte?

No.

After years of clamoring for a Prequel Trilogy temple, it would feel like a slap in the face to get one solely based off the Acolyte.

Now, if it were to include characters from across the eras, then I'd see no one taking issue with that.

[Shiva]

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

My point was more that there was seemingly no moral issue with a SW series having a cold-blooded killer as its protagonist and (along with Rogue One) depicting the rebels as far less noble and more desperate and morally grey than the OT ever showed them as. But The Acolyte depicting the Jedi Order as flawed (which the PT and TCW also did) is suddenly an issue, so much so that people argue sets should be off the table?  

If Andor got a set, I don’t see why The Acolyte also shouldn’t have at least one. If you don’t like the show, simply don’t buy the sets if they ever release any 

The Andor set, even when possibly overpriced, it rocks.

[Mandalorianknight]

19 hours ago, starlego98 said:

About the sith eyes design I wonder why they did put sith eyes on the new Vader

I don't think they did, did they? At least, not on my Throne Room vader or the new Dark Falcon one. He never has yellow eyes in the movies (aside from ROTS on Mustafar, which I know is technically vader but, like, c'mon, you know what I mean when I say vader.), so it makes sense they wouldn't do it for the figure.

18 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

People who don't like it are often in echo chambers so they think no one likes it but actually it's done pretty well from what I've seen. I enjoyed it ( not saying it's perfect, they did mishandle one of my favourite characters from the High Republic books), but even if you didn't we don't them to set a precedent where they can just ignore shows and stuff. 

Now the show isn't inappropriate for children or anything ( at least not more so than the other more intense SW things)

This is a kind of blindsided argument "people who don't like it are in echo chambers" and people who do like it aren't? 

I'd add a personal ancedote- which has it's own flaws, but if we're going into echo chambers, it's kind of needed- that I have a pretty big set of people I know in real life who are star wars fans, who live in different geographical areas, have a variety of vastly different views on almost everything, both in star wars (I have "mando is overrated" and "Mando saved the franchise" guys. I have "Obi-Wan was awful" and "it was fun shut up about lore" guys.) and real-world issues. Only 1 or 2 of them made it through more than a few episodes of Acolyte, and NOBODY liked it. I haven't met a single person in real life who enjoys the show.

13 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

This x1000. You don’t deserve sets for merely existing. 

I'm gonna add another x1000 multiplier

11 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

My point was more that there was seemingly no moral issue with a SW series having a cold-blooded killer as its protagonist and (along with Rogue One) depicting the rebels as far less noble and more desperate and morally grey than the OT ever showed them as. But The Acolyte depicting the Jedi Order as flawed (which the PT and TCW also did) is suddenly an issue, so much so that people argue sets should be off the table?  

If Andor got a set, I don’t see why The Acolyte also shouldn’t have at least one. If you don’t like the show, simply don’t buy the sets if they ever release any 

Aside from this not really being the same as what the jedi do in the PT or TCW, the difference is that Andor is about the "normal people" of the universe and how they radicalize and change sides and do terrible things that will haunt them for the rest of their lives because it's for a cause greater than themselves. Luthen has a whole monologue explaining what becomes the backbone of Andor as a character. He sacrifices his morality because he thinks it's the only way for the empire, an evil, to be defeated. But again, importantly, it's the "normal guys", who are depicted as morally grey. The Jedi are the bricking Jedi. The showrunner's openly spoken about wanting to blur the lines and good and evil not being a clear thing in star wars (in terms of jedi/sith? yes it is. Jedi are light, sith are dark side. This is how it's always been, even down to Lucas saying that the light side is maintaining balance and the dark side destabilizes it, so "balance" doesn't mean equal amounts of light and darkness.).

10 hours ago, Alex_South said:

This is where we will see focus shift in a year IMO. It feels like behind the scenes lego was told to "go play outside for a bit" which is why they did the meme wave instead of using slots for new show sets in the way they used to for D+. In general it feels like the D+ live action show craze may be coming to an end, nothing new is filming and all focus seems to be on getting a movie in theaters. Next year will be some more filler stuff and ROTS connected sets and then I think we will be gearing up for a big movie wave.
 

I agree- they realized the shows weren't going super well (IIRC all we know for sure is coming live action show wise is Skeleton Crew, Andor S2, and Ahsoka S2, and I don't think they'd greenlight Skeleton crew if it started today) and are pulling back a bit to reorient. Sort of like what marvel's doing (just hopefully not ending with them announcing Mark Hamill is about to play a body-swapped Palpatine in Star Wars episode X.)

7 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I hear some people saying "oh, but the series is not for kids, they haven't seen it anyway." But they've seen The Mandalorian? Because those sets have to sell extremely well for LEGO to still be including them in nearly every single wave.

I don't know the world you live in where Mando and Acolyte were viewed by the same number of children. Mando can be a little intense, but it's like Infinity war where it's just so overwhelmingly popular parents overlook some of the more violent moments. (And that it's just violence. At least in america, parents tend to be pretty ok with relatively bloodless fantasy violence relative to suggestive content) And even then, Baby Yoda was a phenomenon akin to the release of the original film. I don't care if you think the Acolyte was good, I don't care if you think it's the greatest thing to grace the franchise in decades, you can't say with a straight face that show had anywhere NEAR the level of love as Baby Yoda.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't know the world you live in where Mando and Acolyte were viewed by the same number of children. Mando can be a little intense, but it's like Infinity war where it's just so overwhelmingly popular parents overlook some of the more violent moments. (And that it's just violence. At least in america, parents tend to be pretty ok with relatively bloodless fantasy violence relative to suggestive content) And even then, Baby Yoda was a phenomenon akin to the release of the original film. I don't care if you think the Acolyte was good, I don't care if you think it's the greatest thing to grace the franchise in decades, you can't say with a straight face that show had anywhere NEAR the level of love as Baby Yoda.

Uhh... I've never said any of that.

My point is, kids don't want those sets because they've seen the series—they want them because they are cool, and include fun characters and builds to play with.

[MaximillianRebo]

Some numbers to put things in perspective:

Mandalorian (3 seasons) - 19 sets

Ahsoka (1 season) - 4 sets

Kenobi (1 season) - 2 sets

Book of Boba Fett (1 season) - 2 sets

Andor (1 season) - 1 set

Skeleton Crew (yet to be released) - 1 set

Acolyte (1 season) - 0 sets

Of course Mandalorian (and in marketing terms Grogu) is probably more popular than all the other shows combined, so it's not surprising that it has far more sets than any other show (also far more than all others shows combined). I'll be the first to say that Lego's record on trends is spotty at best, so there's no rule that says that the Acolyte must have at least one set just because all other shows do, but I still think it's odd that it doesn't have a single one, especially in the world of Star Wars, which basically kick started the world of merchandising and marketing tie-ins. Outside the scope of this forum but I'll admit the show had its share of questionable story choices, but so did every show except Andor: Leia under a trench coat, the Mods on Tatooine, Sabine pulling the force out of nowhere, characters getting stabbed with lightsabers and surviving in multiple shows... The main thing just about every other show had going for it though is legacy characters, which are gold in marketing terms.

I still maintain that shifting release schedules - along with TLG own development cycles and when they get source material from D+ - is largely responsible for the current situation and we'll see at least one thing from the show pop up next summer. Or I'm wrong and after focus group numbers come in the Jedi Cruiser currently sitting on a designers desk in Billund will be quietly shelved.

 

[MKJoshA]

Yes, the Rancor is lurking. I'm on vacation right now, so I'll warn you all that if this thread keeps getting out of hand I'm just going to lock it for a few days.

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

This is a kind of blindsided argument "people who don't like it are in echo chambers" and people who do like it aren't?

☝️ This sums up a lot of my thoughts on the last 3 pages. Each is entitled to his/her opinion here. No need to belittle or demean those with differing view points.

Technically the comparisons between Andor and Acolyte belong in the media thread (found in my signature below). But I think the current vector (see what I did there?) of discussion has merit for the Lego set discussion so I'll allow it.

I have 4 kids, oldest is 8. They have seen all other Star Wars shows including Andor (which they found boring ). I will not let them watch Acolyte myself. However, I would buy them an Acolyte set because they would play with it and make-believe their own stories within Star Wars.