LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Agent Kallus]

14 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I, uh, I dunno that acolyte sets would be the best financial decision from lego. 

Well you don't know otherwise either? And would you rather a Jedi vector with Sol and Qimir or yet another buildable artoo?

Go and bathe in the living waters to wash aways your transgressions, Mandalorian.

Buildable ISB agent Helmet when?

[Swordy]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I just received a message from my future self in 2030. 
 

Battlepacks, Micro-fighters and mechs no longer exist.

I’d actually rejoice if Star Wars mechs disappeared. *shrug* Sorry-not-sorry.

51 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

(This is obvious hyperbole) Sometimes one has to wonder if Lego even likes money.

 

Call me crazy, but maybe it’s a good thing LEGO doesn’t associate itself with the Acolyte. No show so far has received as much hate as that one (to my knowledge) and beyond merchandise it seems morally bankrupt (how in the wide world of bricks did Lucasfilm allow that scene in the sixth episode? 0_o) so I can understand if LEGO would prefer not to produce sets from it.

For examples of this, I’d point to The Last Jedi and Deadpool & Wolverine, both of which are two separate examples of either side. (No D&W isn’t morally bankrupt, but definitely not kid friendly, something of which the Acolyte walks the fine line.)

Yes, I’m biased against the show, and I’m glad for anyone who did enjoy the show. Regardless, LEGO might do better financially if they avoid the Acolyte like the plague. That’s just my opinion, I suppose.

25 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

Well you don't know otherwise either? And would you rather a Jedi vector with Sol and Qimir or yet another buildable artoo?

Did Jedi Vectors even show up in the show? I’m dying to know, really.

On the Jango and Bo-Katan helmet rumors: LEGO doesn’t seem to care about variety as much anymore. Jango and Bo have similar audiences, but as long as there remain completionists, Prequel fanboys, Clone Wars fanboys, and Mando Bros, both will sell well enough.

Nevertheless, to compensate for any lack of revenue, I suspect we’d see a price increase to $80 for both. Just a gut feeling.

 

On the rumors of buildable Chopper: I love Chopper, I’m happy to see he’ll get his own set… but no. I’ve thought about getting into the buildable character sets (I own a few helmets, which isn’t too dissimilar but I make a distinction between the two in my mind), but I always come back to the question: Why do I need a buildable version of something that’s not comparable to my other sets? It’s for that reason I don’t buy many UCS sets, and, as cool as that Droideka looks, it’s why I won’t buy the buildable characters.

Edited July 28 by Swordy

[Agent Kallus]

46 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

Internet mishaps with roaming data make me post this twice. 

Edited July 28 by Agent Kallus

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

Well you don't know otherwise either? And would you rather a Jedi vector with Sol and Qimir or yet another buildable artoo?

Go and bathe in the living waters to wash aways your transgressions, Mandalorian.

Buildable ISB agent Helmet when?

Ok, let me be a little more clear here-

I am confident Acolyte sets would do poorly. The show was not well received at all. The people who did like it were not children (Children should not watch this show. Like, even more than Andor, this is not a children's show). The only recognizable aspect they have for sets is that the characters use lightsabers, so it's not like some of these other shows where the characters/ships/etc are well known already.

As for the second part, Sol is the only design from the show I liked, and I've said before I'd be down for a Sol polybag or him having been an anniversary figure. But I don't think it'd be "well, we can do a playscale Acolyte set or a buildable R2." With how much lego's been pushing buildables, a playscale set based on acolyte would assumably take up the slot of something else playscale, not a helmet or other buildable. (If you really want a Qimir helmet or something, that's fine by me.)

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

For examples of this, I’d point to The Last Jedi and Deadpool & Wolverine, both of which are two separate examples of either side. (No D&W isn’t morally bankrupt, but definitely not kid friendly, something of which the Acolyte walks the fine line.)

This in general is a little more strongly worded than I'd put it, but I agree with the general premise of "Acolyte is a heavily controversial and not well-received show that doesn't appeal to kids so lego doesn't have much of a reason to wade in".

As for TLJ, I wouldn't call it morally bankrupt. I disagree with what it did to luke but it still has fundamental ideas of good and evil. 

[Swordy]

4 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

As for TLJ, I wouldn't call it morally bankrupt. I disagree with what it did to luke but it still has fundamental ideas of good and evil. 

I meant TLJ as an example of a controversial film, while I pointed to D&W as an example of a non-kid-friendly film. I should have clarified, apologies.

[wesker]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Plus there's no way they're doing Jango and Bo-Katan helmets in the same wave. That HAS to be a leaker getting them confused.

Why wouldn't they? Rex and Cody's helmets were released together in the same wave. Two Mandalorians helmets doing the same isn't that big of a stretch. There are enough differences in the design and color pallet for Jango and Bo-Katan's helmets to stand apart from each other.

[Safwanus]

For those wondering whether or not Jabba would be affected by the colored pupil disease, I would be GREATLY surprised if that came to be the case.

It would seem the standard they're going for has to do only with the "classic" minifigure head. Looking at Darth Jar Jar, who still retained normal Gungan eyes, I wouldn't expect any alien to fall under that rule. It would truly be a shocker if Jabba was made to be a zombified big fig.

[AD_Bricks]

4 hours ago, Safwanus said:

For those wondering whether or not Jabba would be affected by the colored pupil disease, I would be GREATLY surprised if that came to be the case.

It would seem the standard they're going for has to do only with the "classic" minifigure head. Looking at Darth Jar Jar, who still retained normal Gungan eyes, I wouldn't expect any alien to fall under that rule. It would truly be a shocker if Jabba was made to be a zombified big fig.

We just heard about (+saw) Salacious Crumb from the new sail barge, who disproves this. I think that's why people are concerned about Jabba. Salacious isn't even a full figure, let alone just an alien minifig who just doesn't use a typical head piece.

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, Swordy said:

I meant TLJ as an example of a controversial film, while I pointed to D&W as an example of a non-kid-friendly film. I should have clarified, apologies.

That's my bad, I read it wrong.

(Which is good, because while it's not morally bankrupt per se and actually has a pretty solid message about past failures not preventing you from doing the right thing, or liking who you are, in the present, Deadpool and Wolverine isn't exactly a paragon of virtue itself either)

5 hours ago, wesker said:

Why wouldn't they? Rex and Cody's helmets were released together in the same wave. Two Mandalorians helmets doing the same isn't that big of a stretch. There are enough differences in the design and color pallet for Jango and Bo-Katan's helmets to stand apart from each other.

I dunno, I think it'd be more like P2 rex and P2 Jesse than P2 rex and P1 cody. The bigger thing for me is there's so many helmet options to do besides two similarly colored mandalorian helmets.

5 hours ago, Safwanus said:

For those wondering whether or not Jabba would be affected by the colored pupil disease, I would be GREATLY surprised if that came to be the case.

It would seem the standard they're going for has to do only with the "classic" minifigure head. Looking at Darth Jar Jar, who still retained normal Gungan eyes, I wouldn't expect any alien to fall under that rule. It would truly be a shocker if Jabba was made to be a zombified big fig.

I agree that Jabba likely won't suffer, but Crumb is an alien and they got him.

9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I just received a message from my future self in 2030. 

Battlepacks, Micro-fighters and mechs no longer exist.

10 buildable characters released that year alone.

5 new minifigs! Way more than the previous year.

6 play-sets in total: 4 of which are the annual Luke’s Landspeeder, Tie Fighter, X-Wing and 501st vehicle.

Get your Lego Batman out of my Lego Star Wars.

Just kidding.

Lego Star Wars in that scenario still gets 6 play-sets and a number of buildables, much better than lego batman.

[CloneCommando99]

All these 18+ Star Wars sets and Lego still won’t make Star Wars modulars.

8 hours ago, wesker said:

Why wouldn't they? Rex and Cody's helmets were released together in the same wave. Two Mandalorians helmets doing the same isn't that big of a stretch. There are enough differences in the design and color pallet for Jango and Bo-Katan's helmets to stand apart from each other.

There’s a big difference here. Cody and Rex’s helmets had different a shape and colour-scheme to eachother. This is just the same helmet shape twice over with similar colour scheme.

 

Can’t wait for the 2026 buildable Glup Shitto.

[SketchBrick]

31 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Can’t wait for the 2026 buildable Glup Shitto.

Hopefully we get him in 3 different versions, each one more expensive than the last, including a $200 version that features an "exclusive" minifigure for the investors! This is what toys are all about, right?

[BrickBob Studpants]

It’s an odd feeling to hold the box of a set that hasn’t been revealed yet  I suppose the Onyx Cinder will just randomly drop on s@h on Thursday  I don’t think they’ve ever done that before, let alone with a set based on an upcoming show! Weird, but I also understand them being reluctant about revealing a set for a show that still doesn’t have a publicly available trailer. Maybe at D23?

[AD_Bricks]

45 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Weird, but I also understand them being reluctant about revealing a set for a show that still doesn’t have a publicly available trailer. Maybe at D23?

Has Comic Con finished? I don't keep up with conventions very much but I would have thought they'd show a trailer there.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, AD_Bricks said:

Has Comic Con finished? I don't keep up with conventions very much but I would have thought they'd show a trailer there.

Yeah, ended Saturday. Really the only SW news we got was for publishing, and even then it wasn't much.

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Has Comic Con finished? I don't keep up with conventions very much but I would have thought they'd show a trailer there.

D23 is Disney’s own event, so it only makes sense they save a lot of announcements and reveals for that

[THELEGOBATMAN]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I suppose the Onyx Cinder will just randomly drop on s@h on Thursday  I don’t think they’ve ever done that before, let alone with a set based on an upcoming show! 

What, dropping a set randomly on s@h? Can't name any specific examples (except for the Giganotosaurus Dominion set—I think), but I know there's been at least a few times they've done this.

[Kit Figsto]

I saw a handful of Onyx Cylinder sets at Target in the US two days ago on one of their stocking carts, about to go on shelves.  Didn't see any other of the August 1st sets.

I was out of town, though, and had zero space for anything extra in my luggage, so I couldn't have bought any even if I had wanted to.

[Big_Daddy]

For the lack of a better word I'm glad that there won't be any Acolyte sets. Like others have said, it would be a shame if a disaster like that would eat up set slots.

As for the increase of all those buildable character/18+ sets, likely it's due to the surge in popularity that Lego got during covid. I wonder if it's just TLC being a bit too slow to pick up on a trend that may have been going downward since then. I'm not sure about this of course, but somehow I expect this disproportionate focus on 'adult' sets to be a mistake. But that's all speculation (for now).

[Alex_South]

I kinda think having a discussion on liking vs not liking a show including perceived internet controversy and moral values gets way too subjective for a consumer product. The only thing that matters is $$: viewership numbers, engagement, and sales. If we don't see sets for a show then it probably didn't perform well enough. Some stuff is a calculated risk up front like the onyx cinder, and it makes sense to take a risk on that show over say the acolyte considering the target audiences. Black series seems to be marketed at older consumers imo and it went all in on the Acolyte. Depending on those toy sales we may see acolyte sets in the future. I am sure folks get paid to assess how much crossover exists between hasbro and lego customers.

I don't think the onyx cinder is going to sell well. I don't think the show will be big enough for kids to want it.

I don't really expect more show sets outside of the mando era since that's the only era confirmed to going back to theaters. Everything else is up in the air, but mando is actually shooting ( I think ) so gears are really turning.

I also think lego is gauging the value of the Jedi Survivor series, it all comes down to how many players will drop 170 on a mantis set. Those games have sold well and the third one has a lot of potential to grow the success. I think Lego has time to wait for that series hype to peak with the release of the third game. I jumped in on the second game and it seems like a quality series, ratings are okay but the sales jumped from first to second game. I definitely won't buy the new SD for that Cal figure, but I would buy a quality mantis set day 1, provided it doesn't get the T-6 treatment.

Edited July 29 by Alex_South

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Alex_South said:

I don't really expect more show sets outside of the mando era since that's the only era confirmed to going back to theaters. Everything else is up in the air, but mando is actually shooting ( I think ) so gears are really turning.

Mando has done some time-sensitive shots already. Cameras are rolling, so I'm now confident THIS star wars movie is actually on track to release within a few years (Not that I wasn't before- it's mando- but we've had a good number of films waffling around for years now)

[BrickBob Studpants]

Where’s this moral discussion coming from all of a sudden?  I don’t remember any outcry when a certain other show’s main character shot an unarmed man begging for his life in the face - without flinching or showing any remorse - and coldly executed another who might have just tested him with a tempting offer  

A replica of Qimir’s helmet seemingly had an impressive number of pre-orders, so there could be demand for Acolyte sets. Gimme the Exile II with all the lead characters and I’m satisfied

[Swordy]

16 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Where’s this moral discussion coming from all of a sudden?  I don’t remember any outcry when a certain other show’s main character shot an unarmed man begging for his life in the face - without flinching or showing any remorse - and coldly executed another who might have just tested him with a tempting offer  

But the point of that sin in the first episode was that Andor had committed a selfish act that would plague his community. The whole first season is Andor’s journey of learning to fight for others than for himself. As for the execution in the sixth episode, that was an unselfish act to protect a greater cause than Andor.

How is a dude preying on a younger girl presented as wrong in the Acolyte? How is the Stranger being selfless in literally seducing someone to the dark side? (I’m being very selective about my words due to the fact that there may be younger readers, but you and I both know to what I’m referring.)

Honestly man, I hate having to discuss this on a LEGO forum. Can we please move on?

[ARC2149Nova]

So...how 'bout that battle super pack? 

Seriously, perfect chance to get Rebel Friend, but Nien Nunb's torso will do nicely for that. I'd like to see the see the second head the Rebels are using, skin tone, male/female, happy/sad/mad, I need hi-res!

And I never got a good look at QT-KT either. I'm curious to see if the 2014 stormtrooper helmets are going up or going down in price. Depending on how easy it is to convert my forces into the superior stormie, I may hunt a few of these down.

[Mandalorianknight]

15 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

So...how 'bout that battle super pack? 

Seriously, perfect chance to get Rebel Friend, but Nien Nunb's torso will do nicely for that. I'd like to see the see the second head the Rebels are using, skin tone, male/female, happy/sad/mad, I need hi-res!

And I never got a good look at QT-KT either. I'm curious to see if the 2014 stormtrooper helmets are going up or going down in price. Depending on how easy it is to convert my forces into the superior stormie, I may hunt a few of these down.

My guess is it's Antilles, since the other two are re-uses.

Unfortunately, your best option in the US is to get one each for $1-2 plus shipping (so really $6-7 each). If you want a larger quantity, the max I can find undamaged is 10... and at their price, it's better to take the $6-7 each.

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Where’s this moral discussion coming from all of a sudden?  I don’t remember any outcry when a certain other show’s main character shot an unarmed man begging for his life in the face - without flinching or showing any remorse - and coldly executed another who might have just tested him with a tempting offer  

A replica of Qimir’s helmet seemingly had an impressive number of pre-orders, so there could be demand for Acolyte sets. Gimme the Exile II with all the lead characters and I’m satisfied

We're supposed to see Andor as someone who isn't a hero- not yet, anyway. We're supposed to see him do terrible, awful things, first in fear, then for the rebellion. Though it is an interesting point- both shows explore a difference in morality. It's all down to concept and execution- Andor's concept is about the "normal people" and what they do in a galaxy like this, how they're drawn to their side of the war, whereas Acolyte is about the stand-ins for the concepts of good and evil, and plays a lot more fast and loose with things, such as... yeah... the hot tub scene.

Qimir's loose adaption of a recent movie intro is probably the only scene in that show I've seen widespread enjoyment of, and his character the only one I've seen widespread "oh, he looks cool" for (they're all wrong by the way. It looks dumb. Sol looks cooler.)  so I could expect it- though "seemingly" is important there. Lots of companies simply don't make that much product of certain things they don't expect to do well- for example, PLENTY of somewhat obscure transformers sell out fast and become near-impossible to get secondhand, because they don't make many, but SS86 optimus is still widely availible for pre-order at retail price, despite being the ultimate retail toy of the most popular transformer in his most popular form, simply because Hasbro anticipated this and produced/are producing an absolutely absurd quantity.

[ToaDraco]

 my reaction to the people getting way too hateful over the Acolyte and believing in the manufactured outrage.

I think ONE set would be nice. Every single Star Wars show and movie should at least get one. 

ANYWAY, I really thought they'd give us the Skeleton Crew trailer before the Onyx Cinder was officially revealed. It's insane that we still haven't seen it when they showed the trailer behind closed doors a whole year ago.