LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mandalorianknight]

17 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I am expecting no more than four figures (three Minifigs and an astromech); Ambush on Ferrix was $70 a few years ago, and that only included three Minifigs (despite the fact that a second Pre-Mor Security officer would have fit the scene and improved playability!). Astromechs and other droids do not seem to count as full Minifigs, so I can see three plus an astromech in the ARC-170. 

I did say it was a stretch.

16 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

If we get Commander Bly next year I'll eat him, but I doubt we will :D

The die is cast. @NoOneOfImportance, you can replace my quote with his (since there was indeed a non-malak plushie KOTOR tie-in released)

15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

At least we know it will have at least 3 figures and a astromech. Lego has never made a starfighter that hasn’t had enough figures to properly crew it. And I doubt that they’d be scummy enough to stop that trend.

I agree- unfortunately likely won't be three pilots, but it'll be at least three figs.

12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

No chickening out, gotta stick to the bit! Or do you wanna end up like poor @Puresh?

Did he follow through with it?

Edited July 19 by Mandalorianknight

[BrickBob Studpants]

6 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Did he follow through with it?

No, and now they live forevermore in shame  That's the dark fate that awaits those who make a bet on eating minifigs and don't put their money where their mouth is!

[CloneCommando99]

Soooo. The lack of normal play-sets is extremely disturbing. And they’re all Clone Wars related for some reason. Congratulations Clone Bros. You won. But at what cost?!

All I want is either a Tie Defender, Imperial Bunker or Army Trooper battlepack from the empire next year. But I know those are probably too much to ask for these days.

 

Seeing that the marvel logo is apparently reusing figures, i’m betting that the SW logo will have reuses of Han, Luke, Leia, Chewbacca and Vader. Though I would prefer cooler characters or cool variants of the main 5.

Edited July 20 by CloneCommando99

[Classic_Spaceman]

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Seeing that the marvel logo is apparently reusing figures, i’m betting that the SW logo will have reuses of Han, Luke, Leia, Chewbacca and Vader. Though I would prefer cooler characters or cool variants of the main 5.

A classic 1999 arrangement of Luke, Leia, Han, Artoo, Vader, a Stormtrooper, and Boba Fett on the top of the logo would actually be cool without needing any new ‘figs. 
 

[Ringwraith]

On 7/19/2024 at 5:32 AM, Classic_Spaceman said:

I am expecting no more than four figures (three Minifigs and an astromech); Ambush on Ferrix was $70 a few years ago, and that only included three Minifigs (despite the fact that a second Pre-Mor Security officer would have fit the scene and improved playability!). Astromechs and other droids do not seem to count as full Minifigs, so I can see three plus an astromech in the ARC-170. 
 

I'm placing my bets on two Revenge of the Sith open-face pilots (maybe a Jag reboot), a Jedi & insert 'random astromech' here. Isn't that what we got in the one from 2010 anyway 

[CallumPears]

1 hour ago, Ringwraith said:

I'm placing my bets on two Revenge of the Sith open-face pilots (maybe a Jag reboot), a Jedi & insert 'random astromech' here. Isn't that what we got in the one from 2010 anyway 

Yeah it was, and as an 8-year-old who didn't know Bricklink was a thing to get an extra pilot it kinda sucked (same goes for the 2013 gunship only having 1). Really hope we get all 3 pilots for the sake of kids today who will be in a similar situation, and if they do include a Jedi it's as an extra figure on the side. 

Edited July 20 by CallumPears

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Soooo. The lack of normal play-sets is extremely disturbing. And they’re all Clone Wars related for some reason. Congratulations Clone Bros. You won. But at what cost?!

Lego has seemingly decided that they have three markets:

1. Well-to-do kids (or more accurately, their parents) who will buy anything lego star wars that they recognize, and aren't bothered enough by some of these price increases to be turned off from the sale.

2. Adults who aren't AFOLs per se, and will buy buildable characters, helmets, and ships, but no figure-based or system sets

3. The rabid clone fans who army-build anything with a clone regardless of how much they might complain about imperfections

Now maybe this is how the market is shaking out, but I can't help but feel they're isolating fans like most of us on this forum, as well as the not-insignificant market of kids and parents who would look at a $45 jedi starfighter as the cheapest set of the wave and either not be able to afford it or choose something more worth the value.

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

A classic 1999 arrangement of Luke, Leia, Han, Artoo, Vader, a Stormtrooper, and Boba Fett on the top of the logo would actually be cool without needing any new ‘figs. 

It's crazy to me that we had Boba and a stormtrooper on the logo in 1999 but they didn't show up in that year.

[icm]

3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It's crazy to me that we had Boba and a stormtrooper on the logo in 1999 but they didn't show up in that year.

It's even crazier that we had Queen Amidala on the TPM logo in 1999 but she didn't show up until 2012 and hasn't returned since then.

[CallumPears]

8 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It's crazy to me that we had Boba and a stormtrooper on the logo in 1999 but they didn't show up in that year.

The prequel sets had a logo with Amidala on, and she didn't show up for a looong time (also a hooded pre-face-melt Palpatine which we technically never got). 

As for the rest of what you said, yeah I think you summed it up pretty nicely. The theme as a whole very much seems to be catering towards rich customers, whether kids or adults. Group 3 in your list still fit into that as most of us don't exactly have the funds to buy 50 Clone battle packs. 

Edited July 20 by CallumPears

[Llewop]

I’m just hoping that with 5 months until January that maybe some of the rumours aren’t true. Maybe might shift my focus on collecting different themes.
I’d probably wait until May the 4th (depending on what the promo is) for getting the fighter and Ashoka’s starfighter anyways. 

[wesker]

On 7/20/2024 at 1:10 AM, Big_Daddy said:

I don't really care about extra minifigs with the ARC-170, I just want three unnamed clone pilots and an astromech. I might even buy multiple of those.

I'd rather have some character variety over three generic pilots. There's more to the prequel era than just clones and the other characters should be represented too. Its been far too long since we've had a Jedi like Plo Koon or Kit Fisto in a set.

[ARC2149Nova]

1 hour ago, wesker said:

I'd rather have some character variety over three generic pilots. There's more to the prequel era than just clones and the other characters should be represented too. Its been far too long since we've had a Jedi like Plo Koon or Kit Fisto in a set.

Yes, but, I'd rather have a fully crewed starship. Jedi don't fly ARC-170s (pretending 2010's set doesn't exist ).

Ideally, we're gonna get the following: Odd Ball, Jag/Lookalike, Third Pilot, R4-P44, Plo Koon/Kit Fisto. We're getting three clones, I just hope they're all pilots.

Granted, one could go back and buy the old pilots, but the set should provide. But also, 4 minifigures (as some have asserted to be the maximum) won't count any astromech droid, meaning that with three clones + desirable character & Rando-D2, all your ARC-170 needs can/will be met.

If the OG ARC-170 can get the appropriate crew complement, so can a 2025 set.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Yes, but, I'd rather have a fully crewed starship. Jedi don't fly ARC-170s (pretending 2010's set doesn't exist ).

Same. I get from why a set perspective, they would want a more "exciting" character like a jedi, but for a $70 set, they should at least give us the full complement of the starfighter.

[starlego98]

what if ahsoka's ship is obi wan's ship, both are red

[Classic_Spaceman]

8 hours ago, ARC2149Nova said:

But also, 4 minifigures (as some have asserted to be the maximum) won't count any astromech droid 

Three Minifigs and an astromech is the limit, IMO - The $65 TIR Bomber has three Minifigs and a gonk, for instance. 
 

33 minutes ago, starlego98 said:

what if ahsoka's ship is obi wan's ship, both are red

Ahsoka’s has white stripes on the wings, and would presumably include Ahsoka in the Minifig lineup (provided that has been seen by the source of this leak). 
 

[Swordy]

51 minutes ago, starlego98 said:

what if ahsoka's ship is obi wan's ship, both are red

I mean, maybe… but probably not. It seems to be that the leakers got a list of WIP set names this year when it comes to LEGO Marvel and LEGO Star Wars. Why else would Miles V. Spot say Spider-Verse? Why would Ahsoka’s ship come to mind first when seeing a red Interceptor over Obi-Wan’s ship? It’s too specific to not be true, in my view.

Besides, we still have and will have an Obi-Wan’s starfighter (which will still be $30 USD next year compared to $45 USD for Ahsoka’s!). LEGO Group will do what LEGO Group does, but two starfighters belonging to Obi-Wan on shelves at the same time? I just don’t see it.

[MaximillianRebo]

I had some free time over the weekend and did a deep dive on Brickset over the last 10 years or so of LSW, looking at how PPP has changed over the years, how many sets were released per year, and how many of those sets were playscale. I didn't count polybags, advent calendars and promotional/GWP sets in my numbers; for playscale sets I did include battle packs and MBS sets (including proto-MBS like Hoth and Endor) but not microfighters or USC sets. I also included 2013's planet sets in total numbers, as I'd included microfighters in all following years, and planets were the forerunners of microfighters. For figuring out the 'worst PPP' I just primarily looked at playscale sets, ignoring buildable figs, 4+ sets and even battle packs which would have been much worse. Here's what I found:

2013: 20 playscale out of 27 sets released. Worst PPP - Sail Barge and Rancor Pit ($0.14 & $0.16 ppp) - both probably because of the big figs in the sets

2014: 21 playscale / 28 total. Worst PPP - nothing really

2015: 26 playscale / 40 total. WPPP - Sith Infiltrator and First Order TIE Fighter (~$.014 ppp) - not including the buildable figures that started that year

2016: 25 playscale / 42 total. WPPP - Battle on Takodana (~$0.15 ppp)

2017: 25 playscale / 41 total. WPPP - Resistance Bomber (~$0.14 ppp)

2018: 24 playscale / 35 total. WPPP - Grievous' Combat Speeder ($0.19 ppp !!). Dishonourable mentions - Snoke's Throne Room, Imperial Conveyex and Imperial Landing Craft

2019: 23 playscale / 34 total. WPPP - Vonreg's TIE Interceptor (~$0.14 ppp)

2020: 17 playscale / 27 total. WPPP - Sith TIE Fighter and Grievous' Starfighter (~$0.17 ppp)

2021: 12 playscale / 21 total. WPPP - Duel on Mandalore (~$0.14 ppp)

2022: 16 playscale / 25 total. WPPP - Dark Trooper attack ($0.21 ppp !!!!). Also the Republic Tank and The Justifier

2023: 15 playscale / 28 total. WPPP - Yavin 4 (~$0.16 ppp) - although this does have a large number of figs, so YMMV on how much value minifigs lend to a set

2024: 13 playscale / 25 total. WPPP - Duel on Peridea and Desert Skiff (~$0.14 ppp)

So, looking at all this, 2015-17 were absolutely massive years in LSW, due in no doubt to the release of TFA and a renewed interest in Star Wars, which TLG jumped on. Not only that but the ratio of playscale to total number of sets was two thirds, which has now dropped to around a half. 2021 was a tiny year - probably because of Covid - but it looks like 2024 is going to go the same way. Only 25 sets in total (barring any surprises later in the year) and only around half of them are playscale - the smallest number in the last 10 years excluding 2021's Covid affected waves. If you took out the RTG sets from this years numbers you would be left with only 10 playscale sets for the whole year based on canon media... I started doing this because I was curious how previous non-canon sets affected overall yearly numbers, and in the years when Freemaker and Yoda Chronicle sets released there were still 20 or more other sets to choose from if you gave those sets a pass.

Regarding PPP, it's actually stayed pretty stable year on year, averaging between 11c -13c over the last 10 years (when removing outliers like 4+ sets and buildable figs) and even battle packs skew that number with their high number of figs to pieces ratio. Giving a modest value of $2 per fig in each set brings the PPP down to below 12c in all years. Even current sets like the Desert Skiff doesn't have a worse PPP than many other years, but it also being dumped on for being a much more expensive skiff set than any that came before. Of course this doesn't account for size of pieces, weight, or 'volume of stuff' but that would be a much deeper dive.

Edited July 22 by MaximillianRebo
Updated numbers

[BrickBob Studpants]

Well, for those who wanted an OT battlepack, here you go  The set with QT-KT indeed includes 3 rebels and 3 Stormies. The builds are a scout speeder and a dropship

*incoming wave of complaints about it being a s@h/store exclusive rather than a widely released set*

Edited July 21 by BrickBob Studpants

[JohnTPT17]

51 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, for those who wanted an OT battlepack, here you go  The set with QT-KT indeed includes 3 rebels and 3 Stormies. The builds are a scout speeder and a dropship

Looks like a modernized two-pack of 7667 and 7668 from my childhood - though KT is swapped out with the Shadow Trooper and a Rebel Trooper. If the price is decent, I'll keep it on my radar - otherwise, I'll see if I can find KT cheap on Bricklink (I imagine a lot of people will army build with this and sell off the duplicate astromechs). 

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, for those who wanted an OT battlepack, here you go  The set with QT-KT indeed includes 3 rebels and 3 Stormies. The builds are a scout speeder and a dropship

*incoming wave of complaints about it being a s@h/store exclusive rather than a widely released set*

Is this a promo set like Xmas falcon last year? It’s not the GWP with the sail barge because that is a lightsabre is it not? I know it’s not a normal SW set because of the set number but I’m hoping it’s something we can just buy rather than a GWP.

Both this and the clone trooper one is pretty much a modernisation of the first battle packs and they are looking pretty good. 

am I right in seeing that the rebels finally have different heads as well

[Max_Lego]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, for those who wanted an OT battlepack, here you go  The set with QT-KT indeed includes 3 rebels and 3 Stormies. The builds are a scout speeder and a dropship

*incoming wave of complaints about it being a s@h/store exclusive rather than a widely released set*

I haven't been looking forward to this... Guess the best thing for me personally to do would be acquiring Rebel troopers separately. I forgot if I ever mentioned that, but I don't like the new Stormtrooper design. TLG seems to not understand that Stormtroopers aren't supposed to look like Clone Troopers, because the latter were drawn with CGI in live-action Prequels, while the former wore vacuform armor. 

The builds in the set are just as ugly as in 2008 (the Rebel speeder looks even worse to me), despite the use of new curved parts

[CF Mitch]

I think I might get that Rebel Trooper vs Stormtrooper battlepack!
Not a fan of the more recent Stormtrooper-helmet design (I believe that peaked in 2014), but I can use more Rebel Troopers and the builds aren't too bad  
But the highlight will be QT-KT  

Regards,
Mitch

[SketchBrick]

Really excited for this set! The OG Rebel and Imperial battlepacks are classic and this does a decent job of paying homage to them. I'm happy to have a reasonable option for building up non-clone armies, and I personally like the scout speeder design (based on the one picture we have).

Now we can only hope the price isn't completely insane.

[ToaDraco]

That is an absolutely incredible set! The Imperial dropship looks weird but the Rebel speeder is actually excellent. THIS is the kind of set we should be getting every year. 2 small vehicles of 2 opposing factions with an even number of troopers for both without any one-off characters(I'm not counting the anniversary figure). Hopefully this will be an easy-to-obtain set and not a gwp like the Battle Droid carrier was. I'm glad I got one, but it too should have been a regular retail release. This kind of thing is just great for fans of all ages and is guaranteed to sell. That said, I'm seeing a potential price of $45 floating around so hopefully it's just being sold as a retailer exclusive. If I had to guess, it'll be Target/S@H.

Edited July 21 by ToaDraco

[Tariq j]

That's a nice surprise. Like others I'm not too fond of the Stormtrooper design but after 15+ years it's nice to finally get a proper army building set for Rebel Troopers.