2023 Majisto GWP

[Black Feather]

3 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I honestly thought that the description was fake/bait when I first saw it, but it came from @Brick Clicker. Also, there is no April Fools thing right now, and I doubt that he would tank his credibility for it if there were. 
 

I know.  I watch his videos.  Just disappointing news.

 

2 hours ago, HotdogBricks said:

I might be in the minority here, but if they recolor this helmet to black, that is just as a good as a new mould because it was last seen in black in 2002, and would finally be an affordable option for a variety of other factions like the black falcons and 2013 dragon knights.

This or something like it still gives me hope until I see it.  While they obviously wouldn’t do it for just this set.  Who knows if they have a part for another set that might get tossed in early here like they did with the forestmen GWP.  That’s actually what I have waiting for with this set.  To get a preview.  Totally shocked at no shield at least.  When the medieval town has excuse to have one available.  I was actually hoping for the black knights shield (small) which I believe dragon knights used too.

[Retrocity]

I was hoping for a shield, that’s the disappointment for me. I understand the disappointment with Majisto receiving an unprinted torso and legs again. At the least, there are alternatives like the BAM parts that shouldn’t be expensive to obtain if it is a big deal. I guess to me, if the choice was a new printed torso for Majisto or a new printed Dragon knight torso for the knight(s), I’m picking the Dragon torso (saying this before we actually see what it looks like). I look at it from the perspective that the beard will cover a fair amount of the torso anyway. 

I hope the helmet is in black, I’ll probably swap it out for one if it isn’t. I did that for the Castle in the Forest Black Falcons that had the silver helmets.

I’ll wait for the official unveil for any other thoughts, I still plan to pick it up with Eldorado Fortress.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Retrocity

[Roebuck]

Majisto is not so big deal to me since we have the BAM one however somewhat strange they did not include that here. It do not seem the GWP will get much help from MTS which is also fine since I prefer the set to focus on animals and civilians not bringing back the dragon Knights. On the other hand where do the torso come from, seems unlikely one is included in MTS, maybe the GWP had enough budget to pull it of  I guess even if they made a dragon knight in the upcoming cmf instead of Basil it would not be included in this set now

[Sir Dano]

2 hours ago, Black Feather said:

I was actually hoping for the black knights shield (small) which I believe dragon knights used too.

Funnily enough the only time they used that one was in a Dark Forest set, long after their prime.

[Lion King]

Oh good, I’m so glad I will not spend toomuch to get that GWP or chase after it in the secondary market (such as eBay). 

[Black Falcon]

10 hours ago, Sir Dano said:

Funnily enough the only time they used that one was in a Dark Forest set, long after their prime.

Well if you look at Dragon Knights and Black Knights, their big shields are actually the same - with one having a blue and the other having a green dragon - which would speak for them beeing the same faction (though in different times) - same as Dark Forest actually is Forestmen.

[jodawill]

The images dropped on Reddit. This is hilarious. I was just talking to a friend recently about how that one Dragon Masters torso is the goofiest one of all time, and here it is. It looks like they didn't even update the design. It's just a straight up reprinting that of the original.

This set is a VERY hard pass for me. I've been looking forward to this set for so long. I can't believe how much they messed this up. This set sucks on so many levels. Even the building is awful.

It honestly feels like someone is trolling us. It surely can't be this bad. It's even built on two BURPs and the door doesn't open. What the heck?

Edited November 2, 2023 by jodawill

[Lyichir]

9 minutes ago, jodawill said:

The images dropped on Reddit. This is hilarious. I was just talking to a friend recently about how that one Dragon Masters torso is the goofiest one of all time, and here it is. It looks like they didn't even update the design. It's just a straight up reprinting that of the original.

This set is a VERY hard pass for me. I've been looking forward to this set for so long. I can't believe how much they messed this up. This set sucks on so many levels. Even the building is awful.

It honestly feels like someone is trolling us. It surely can't be this bad. It's even built on two BURPs and the door doesn't open. What the heck?

I'm very confused what you wanted from this because to me "built on two BURPs" is one of the iconic features of the set it's recreating. I'd be pretty surprised if it HADN'T done that, since doing the same without BURPs would've likely meant a reduction in the interior space.

Looking at the pics it may not go "above and beyond" what I'd hoped for from it but it seems to be a pretty decent update of a classic set.

[jodawill]

1 minute ago, Lyichir said:

I'm very confused what you wanted from this because to me "built on two BURPs" is one of the iconic features of the set it's recreating. I'd be pretty surprised if it HADN'T done that, since doing the same without BURPs would've likely meant a reduction in the interior space.

Looking at the pics it may not go "above and beyond" what I'd hoped for from it but it seems to be a pretty decent update of a classic set.

I've never owned the original, and I couldn't tell from the box that it used BURPs. That makes a lot of sense, especially considering that the other sets in the theme used them extensively.

To me, everything they did seems like a downgrade from the original. We still have the goofy Barney torso, but without the helmet and plumes that made the original interesting. Majisto doesn't have any printing or a glow in the dark wand. The plumes on the building are tacky because they aren't dragons. The door looks goofy and doesn't appear to open. It looks like the shutters may be stickers. And with this being a modern reimagining, I would have expected them to close up the roof a bit. The whole set is just so goofy. It's too similar to the original in some ways because, and yet too much of a rapid departure in the wrong ways.

My wife is happy because I won't be spending $250 to get this. I may pick up the torsos if they're available, just to have them, but like I said, this is a hard pass for me personally.

In retrospect, I think I got my hopes up way too high for this. The set so iconically and prominently features parts that aren't in production, it just wasn't reasonable to expect this to be any good.

[Follows Closely]

Disapointed:

• No new shield to add to my collection.
• No plumes.
• No glow in the dark wand.
• No proper knight helmet, could at least bring back the black one.
• Stickers for shutters?
• No printed Majesto.

It is castle, so I will still buy it. To me the original has more charm and is more desirable than this remake.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Follows Closely

[brimbolet]

The poisonous breath of a dragon has clouded my vision... that's easily the least interesting throwback sets of all.

• The box art is just so poor that it hardly even looks genuine (compared to e.g. 40580)
• Majisto is as expected an average figure but the knight is a miss - the silver helmet and this particular type just don't fit the Dragon Knights. A regular foot soldier with a black helmet would have worked (also on the box) much better. But thankfully it's easily fixed. The missing of a shield is hard to understand. Some sort of an animal would have been also nice (grey parrot in the original)
• The build - looks a bit out of proportion/too high. Is suspect the workshop has again hinges and the lock (on tile with one stud) closes the whole building. That's why the door can't be opened. Not perhaps the best solution, but I can live with it.

I still have some EOL sets on my list that I really want to have - but if it wasn't for them I'd have skipped this GWP. Let's hope for something more interesting when the medieval village finally arrives!

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by brimbolet

[Westbrick]

I’ll probably still try to get it, but mainly because I have some bits to buy. I would still feel really positive about this if only it had a shield. 

[SirBlake]

Woof, a swing and a miss on this one. 

This has gone from my most anticipated set of the year to a great excuse not to participate in the GWP exclusivity BS. 1 Step forward for TLG continuing to provide options for castle fans, two steps back for a lackluster offering. PASS.

[Triceron]

I like the final building design.  It's very close to the original, but I don't think it plusses it, like the Forest Hideout or Blacktron Cruiser did.  I think it'll be good for people who never had the original set

I like the idea of a door with a lock on it to keep the building clipped together.  I imagine there will be minor play feature there.  Curious what the interior is like and what easter eggs might be hiding within.

The minis are completely off.  Majisto no print, obviously.  No Plume, no Shield, no Halberd.  Dragon torso is nice to see back though, hopefully will be on PAB.  It's still missing all the big things that made it an iconic Dragon Master set.  It was already a stretch of the imagination that they'd bring back old molds, what can we say.

And are the shutters really stickers??

[Roebuck]

58 minutes ago, jodawill said:

In retrospect, I think I got my hopes up way too high for this. The set so iconically and prominently features parts that aren't in production, it just wasn't reasonable to expect this to be any good.

Yes most of the interesting parts are not in production any more and since they did not bring back anything other than the torso it do not end up very impressive I must say..
It looks very similar to the original so well done since that was what they were going for however I like the retro sets that do something new instead of coping old sets

Unsure if this will fit in the MTS at all

[BrickJagger]

This is such an unsatisfying set. A retro throwback, but neither a copy of the original nor a modern-era update. The same design flaws as it had 30 years ago. Two lackluster minifigures and one new reprint of one of the worst Castle torsos. A ridiculous GWP threshold just to obtain it. Wait for the Market Square, folks.

[danth]

"if you're going to do something, do it right."

Maybe they should have gone for a Wolfpack set or a Sea Serpent throwback if they aren't willing to actually bring back the essential & iconic helmet molds for a set.

Minifigs make or break a set. Especially one like this where the original design, frankly, isn't even that good.

[Wesley D]

It's baffling to see how LEGO continues to see easy money in nostalgia!

How disappointing it is to see integral rereleases of sets that are 3 decades old, with almost no design input, except for updating out of production parts.

Today the building standards have improved immensely, yet we get the same designs from years ago, when flaws could be explained by a limited parts selection.

Previous years we've gotten fantastic retro sets, where they took the idea behind the old sets and took it to a new level with the current parts and techniques, but this years Eldorado Fortress and this long awaited workshop are huge letdowns!

I'm really turned off by the poor designed dragon knight. I was never a fan of that faction because they look too fictional, but here their dark appearance is completely missing.

[JohnTPT17]

Well, that looks... Not good at all. Looks like I'll place an order now and get Galileo! 

[MAB]

Aside from the knight's helmet, I think it looks quite good. It looks very similar to the original with a few updates where necessary.  No doubt the whole front including the door splits open hinged from the back (like the original) and so it will be interesting to see the inside. 

 

Majisto was always going to be a boring plain figure based on the LKC and I didn't get my hopes up about getting a new or reintroduced vintage helmet or plume so i am not even that shocked there. I'll get more of the torso when they appear on PAB. 

[Triceron]

14 minutes ago, Wesley D said:

Previous years we've gotten fantastic retro sets, where they took the idea behind the old sets and took it to a new level with the current parts and techniques, but this years Eldorado Fortress and this long awaited workshop are huge letdowns!

Hrm, I'd only heard good things about Eldorado Fortress.  Curious to know what you considered disappointing in the set.  As a casual observer, it looked like it had some really good things going for it, like the modularity.

[brimbolet]

16 minutes ago, Wesley D said:

It's baffling to see how LEGO continues to see easy money in nostalgia!

Previous years we've gotten fantastic retro sets, where they took the idea behind the old sets and took it to a new level with the current parts and techniques, but this years Eldorado Fortress and this long awaited workshop are huge letdowns!

I agree 100%. I'm really worried that we can expect more simple remakes in the future...

[F1stzz]

20 minutes ago, Wesley D said:

It's baffling to see how LEGO continues to see easy money in nostalgia!

I find it interesting how pretty much everybody was drooling over the new Eldorado Fortress (which indeed has to be payed for with a hefty sum), but now, all of a sudden, the long-awaited GWP (which people are technically getting for free) is receiving lots of complaints on outdated design/building techniques & underwhelming minifigs/accessories. If anything, I'm glad this "Majisto remake" is at least good enough to be a wake-up call for many.

[Triceron]

8 minutes ago, F1stzz said:

I find it interesting how pretty much everybody was drooling over the new Eldorado Fortress (which indeed has to be payed for with a hefty sum), but now, all of a sudden, the long-awaited GWP (which people are technically getting for free) is receiving lots of complaints on outdated design/building techniques & underwhelming minifigs/accessories. If anything, I'm glad this "Majisto remake" is at least good enough to be a wake-up call for many.

Regardless of whether it is GWP or not, I don't think that's a good excuse.  It was never a good excuse for LKC when Majisto appeared without print, and it isn't a good excuse now even as a GWP.  IMO, they should look at remaking a different set that would be easier to translate, as a GWP.  There's plenty of Classic sets that could use a modern revamp, like Blacksmith shop, Guarded Inn and all that.

I just think it's a let down that we get an official Majisto remake and it's literally the same bland mini from LKC which was already heavily complained about.  The modernized replacement parts don't really help plus the set either.  It's certainly below expectations, especially in light of Build a Mini prints being readily available at the very least.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Triceron

[brimbolet]

5 minutes ago, Triceron said:

IMO, they should look at remaking a different set that would be easier to translate, as a GWP.  There's plenty of Classic sets that could use a modern revamp, like Blacksmith shop, Guarded Inn and all that.

If there have to be remakes than just for GWP's please... I want the medieval world to expand, especially when it comes to more realistic heraldry and armor.