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Breaking out the discussion on AI generated concept art from the main Kaliphlin thread.

Reserving first post for highlights.

Feedback and requests for other renders are very welcome!
I'd be happy also to work on some other guilds's if someone wants some copyright-free concept art for those environments too :classic:

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Some ideas for Rakath Mountain settings.

 

Settlements in a valley (maybe too small to be Qarkyr however):

Jonas_W_agged_mountainous_landscape_with

Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit


Trying to ask the AI for a bit more Eastern Asian influence (not sure if it made so much difference however?)

Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit

 

Some upscaled versions and trying to make the city larger (Qarkyr...?) but lost a bit too much of the jaggedness of the mountains:
Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit


Probably my favorite so far, except for the too smooth mountains:

Jonas_W_very_jagged_mountain_landscape_w

Jonas_W_very_jagged_mountain_landscape_w

Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit

Jonas_W_agged_mountainous_landscape_with¨'

Jonas_W_agged_mountainous_landscape_with

Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit

Jonas_W_jagged_mountainous_landscape_wit


More to come!

Any favorites...? Feedback is welcome!

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Breaking this out into its own thread is a good idea.  This is my favorite (one in town).

You asked for suggestions, so here is mine: I'd like something for the Wither Woods area.  I'm most interested in these two aspects:

1. Buildings: I've been trying to (or would like to) have a combination of the architecture styles of Kaliphlin and Avalonia
2. Setting: Using the description of the south-of-wither-woods area ("meager forests and farmlands of Kaliphlin" - though they've had better-than-average growing seasons lately)

I'm not sure how much work it is, but if it is easy, having both farm and village images would be great.

The one existing image on the main Kaliphlin thread has be the basis of my inspiration so far, so expending upon that would be helpful for me.

Another suggestion would be more in-town shots of Kaliphlin towns/cities - though you do have two in the Kaliphlin thread.  However, your MOCs, @Gideon, already give plenty of inspiration!

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12 minutes ago, jtooker said:

1. Buildings: I've been trying to (or would like to) have a combination of the architecture styles of Kaliphlin and Avalonia

Some ideas generated by various prompts around these styles, anyone approaching the vision...?

Jonas_W_tudor_houses_in_a_middle-eastern

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_walled_t

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, jtooker said:

2. Setting: Using the description of the south-of-wither-woods area ("meager forests and farmlands of Kaliphlin" - though they've had better-than-average growing seasons lately)

Some variations on the topic:

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_farmland

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

 

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_ 

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_farmland

Jonas_W_medieval_mediterranean_farmland_

 

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Thank you so much, @Gideon!  Those in the '2 Setting' section are especially great and I will certainly be using them!  They've also given me ideas of real-world locations I could search for inspiration.

The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit).  The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these.

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Lots of fantastic inspiration here, thanks Gideon!

Here are a few suggestions for prompts:

Mediterranean vineyard with villa and outbuildings in gentle rolling landscape

Underground goblin village with crystal mine and waterfalls

Rice terraces in foggy wetlands with medieval village

Underground Forest Elven Halls with twisting trees and bridges (similar to my Kolgari Throne Room):

49951891831_7e6c12e71a_c.jpg

 

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2 hours ago, LittleJohn said:

Mediterranean vineyard with villa and outbuildings in gentle rolling landscape

Jonas_W_Mediterranean_vineyard_with_vill 

Jonas_W_Mediterranean_vineyard_with_vill

 

2 hours ago, LittleJohn said:

Underground goblin village with crystal mine and waterfalls

Jonas_W_Underground_goblin_village_with_ 

Jonas_W_Underground_goblin_village_with_

Jonas_W_Underground_goblin_village_with_ 

That was a tricky prompt, not trivial to get the weights right. And definetely no goblins in sight...hmm.

But here we got some goblins! (maybe a bit too steampunky however...?)
Jonas_W_goblin_crystal_miner_in_a_crysta 

Jonas_W_goblin_crystal_miner_in_a_crysta

 

2 hours ago, LittleJohn said:

Rice terraces in foggy wetlands with medieval village

Mostly generates Asian style buildings (despite me even specifying "European style roofs" or similar), but I suppose the way to go is to find the favorite composition and iterate on the best looking houses until reaching a suitable style.

Jonas_W_terraced_landscape_with_rice_fie 

Jonas_W_terraced_landscape_with_rice_fie 

Jonas_W_terraced_landscape_with_rice_fie

Jonas_W_terraced_landscape_with_rice_fie

 

2 hours ago, LittleJohn said:

Underground Forest Elven Halls with twisting trees and bridges (similar to my Kolgari Throne Room):

49951891831_7e6c12e71a_c.jpg

Including the image in the prompt (and trying my best to find additional input that removed as much as possible of the plastic look) generated something like this:
(Tricky to get the bridges however, probably doesn't recognize the bridge in the photo as a bridge...?)
Jonas_W_Underground_Forest_Elven_Halls_w 

Jonas_W_Underground_Forest_Elven_Halls_w

Jonas_W_Underground_Forest_Elven_Halls_w

grid_0.webp

 

4 hours ago, jtooker said:

The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit).  The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these.

Is some of this getting closer then...?

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_walled_t

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_walled_t

 Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_walled_t

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_town_wit 

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_town_wit

2 hours ago, Yoggington said:

You could add 'style lego' to your prompts and see what it comes up with :P

That seldom ends well :tongue:
Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_street_s

 

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1 hour ago, Gideon said:
6 hours ago, jtooker said:

The ones in the '1 Buildings' section don't seem to be hitting the mark (though I'm not sure if there is a mark to be hit).  The bottommost left image is the one I like most of these.

Is some of this getting closer then...?

Possibly... it certainly hits my other request for in-city views.  All these are bigger/more dense/more grand than I was imagining though.  But I think the architecture style might be closer to what I might want (again, not knowing what I want is what prompted me to ask in the first place).  Another unexpected feature of most images is all the potted plants (one I still don't imagine for this part of Historica).  All the ornate wood is interesting and something I hadn't considered, but this may be a bit more grand than I want too.

If you want to keep trying: use similar prompts but ask a smaller village feel.  Certainly smaller buildings and more dirt or loosely paved roads.  But I understand if you don't want to spend more time.  I appreciate everything you've put forth!

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9 hours ago, jtooker said:

Possibly... it certainly hits my other request for in-city views.  All these are bigger/more dense/more grand than I was imagining though.  But I think the architecture style might be closer to what I might want (again, not knowing what I want is what prompted me to ask in the first place).  Another unexpected feature of most images is all the potted plants (one I still don't imagine for this part of Historica).  All the ornate wood is interesting and something I hadn't considered, but this may be a bit more grand than I want too.

If you want to keep trying: use similar prompts but ask a smaller village feel.  Certainly smaller buildings and more dirt or loosely paved roads.  But I understand if you don't want to spend more time.  I appreciate everything you've put forth!

It seems to be a bit tricky to force it to render a smaller scale of the town, but here are a few attempts (where I've also specifically asked for dirt road).

Ornate wood is probably caused by me specifinging "intricate", which seems to have generated good results for other Kaliphlin renders. But for a smaller scale/less opulent architecture maybe that is a bit off the mark.

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_small_to

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_small_to

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_small_to

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_small_to


(It's fun to play with this and I want to maximize the utilization the days I'm paying for unlimited use here, so keep going with ideas for concept art!)

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19 hours ago, Gideon said:

That was a tricky prompt, not trivial to get the weights right. And definetely no goblins in sight...hmm.

But here we got some goblins! (maybe a bit too steampunky however...?)
 
Mostly generates Asian style buildings (despite me even specifying "European style roofs" or similar), but I suppose the way to go is to find the favorite composition and iterate on the best looking houses until reaching a suitable style.

Including the image in the prompt (and trying my best to find additional input that removed as much as possible of the plastic look) generated something like this:
(Tricky to get the bridges however, probably doesn't recognize the bridge in the photo as a bridge...?)

Thanks a lot, there's some fabulous inspiration here! Was curious how it would do with some of those prompts, particularly the goblin mine, as that was definitely a complex one. Still pretty happy with the results though :thumbup:

Here's a few more ideas to try:

Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge

Tree top elven kingdom with birch trees and waterfalls

Foggy ocean shore with sharp cliffs and medieval lighthouse on top

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17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said:

Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge

Jonas_W_Medieval_village_in_autumn_fores

Probably a bit more Avalonian however...? :wink:
 

17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said:

Tree top elven kingdom with birch trees and waterfalls

Jonas_W_Tree_top_elven_kingdom_with_birc

Jonas_W_Tree_top_elven_kingdom_with_birc

Also way too Avalonian for me :tongue:

 

17 minutes ago, LittleJohn said:

Foggy ocean shore with sharp cliffs and medieval lighthouse on top

Jonas_W_Foggy_ocean_shore_with_sharp_cli

Jonas_W_Foggy_ocean_shore_with_sharp_cli

 

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14 minutes ago, Gideon said:

Probably a bit more Avalonian however...? :wink:

Also way too Avalonian for me :tongue:

Haha, whoops, should have stuck those in the Avalonia thread... :look::blush:

A few more that are Kaliphlin-themed, if you want to try them - really appreciate you doing all these!

Medieval Arabian city gate with bazaar

Medieval Arabian Vaulted Map Room
Medieval Arabian Vaulted Throne Room
Massive Medieval Arabian Great Hall
Medieval Middle Eastern Cathedral Interior

Those last 4 are different variations trying to get a grand interior, similar to something like these builds:

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(But Kali-style, obviously.)

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Medieval village in autumn forest with stream and bridge

Those are beautiful!

I'll try my hand at a few direct prompts:

 

Rural Mediterranean medieval village

Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals

Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream

Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak

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5 hours ago, LittleJohn said:

Haha, whoops, should have stuck those in the Avalonia thread... :look::blush:

A few more that are Kaliphlin-themed, if you want to try them - really appreciate you doing all these!

Medieval Arabian city gate with bazaar

Medieval Arabian Vaulted Map Room
Medieval Arabian Vaulted Throne Room
Massive Medieval Arabian Great Hall
Medieval Middle Eastern Cathedral Interior

Those last 4 are different variations trying to get a grand interior, similar to something like these builds:
(But Kali-style, obviously.)

Ok! Here are some of the results I got from similar prompts :classic:

Gate with Bazaar:

Jonas_W_Medieval_Arabian_city_gate_with_

Jonas_W_Medieval_Arabian_small_fortified

Jonas_W_Medieval_Arabian_city_gate_with_

Jonas_W_Medieval_Arabian_small_fortified

 

Map room/library:

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_round_Medieval_Persian_Vaulted_M

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

 

Throne room:

Jonas_W_round_Medieval_Persian_throne_ro

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

Jonas_W_enormous_grand_round_Medieval_Pe

 

Great hall interior:

Jonas_W_Massive_Medieval_Arabian_Great_H 

Jonas_W_Massive_Medieval_Persian_Great_H

Jonas_W_Massive_Medieval_Persian_Great_H

Jonas_W_Massive_Medieval_Persian_Great_H

 

Cathedral interior:

Jonas_W_Medieval_Byzantine_Cathedral_Int

Jonas_W_Great_Byzantine_basilica_Interio

Jonas_W_Great_Byzantine_basilica_Interio 

Jonas_W_Great_Byzantine_basilica_Interio

 

1 hour ago, jtooker said:

Rural Mediterranean medieval village

Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals

Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream

Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak

Rural Mediterranean medieval village

Jonas_W_Rural_Mediterranean_medieval_vil 

Jonas_W_Rural_Mediterranean_medieval_vil

Jonas_W_Rural_Mediterranean_medieval_vil

Jonas_W_Rural_Mediterranean_medieval_vil

 

 

Rural Turkish medieval village with a well and pack animals

Jonas_W_Rural_Turkish_medieval_village_w 

Jonas_W_Rural_Turkish_medieval_village_w

 

Rural medieval village by a forest with a dried up stream

Jonas_W_Rural_medieval_village_by_a_fore 

Jonas_W_Rural_medieval_village_by_a_fore

 

Misty ocean along a desert shoreline at daybreak

Jonas_W_Misty_ocean_along_a_desert_shore Jonas_W_Misty_ocean_along_a_desert_shore 

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Those are great!  Thank you so much.  I think 'Turkish Medieval' is close to the style I was wanting, but could not describe.  If you have time, would you run these through?

Medieval Turkish inn exterior building on a clear evening

Medieval Turkish inn interior serving wine by candlelight

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18 minutes ago, jtooker said:

Those are great!  Thank you so much.  I think 'Turkish Medieval' is close to the style I was wanting, but could not describe.  If you have time, would you run these through?

Medieval Turkish inn exterior building on a clear evening

Medieval Turkish inn interior serving wine by candlelight

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu 

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu

 

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_interior_se

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_interior_se

A bit tricky to make it render people too...even when I added "crowded" and "lots of people" I only got the crowds below :tongue:
Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_interior_se

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_interior_se

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_interior_se

Are these "Turkish" style renders this by the way converging towards the blend between Kaliphlin and Avalonian architecture discussed earlier...?

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Terrific!  These are great.

3 minutes ago, Gideon said:

Are these "Turkish" style renders this by the way converging towards the blend between Kaliphlin and Avalonian architecture discussed earlier...?

Yes, they are close to what I was trying to imagine (if that makes sense).  Thank you so much for doing these!

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No problem! It's great to have something useful to create when practicing the prompt crafting :classic: 

 

A couple of more upscales finished now:
Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu

Jonas_W_Medieval_Turkish_inn_exterior_bu

(I'm doing something wrong here, they seem to get more blurred/painted the more I scale them up right now)

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These are all looking so good!  Really making me want to build for Kaliphlin again :pir-grin:  How about

catacombs/underground water vaults (I mean like this, not sure what to call it.  I guess this is not something we've done in Kali so far, but it fits with the Byzantine aesthetic)

medieval merchant caravan at an oasis

medieval shepherds in tents

bandits attacking a medieval merchant caravan through a mountain pass

Then there is also the swampy area at the bottom of Kali, maybe

castle in a swamp

medieval fishermen in a swamp land

Edited by Kai NRG

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4 minutes ago, Kai NRG said:

These are all looking so good!  Really making me want to build for Kaliphlin again :pir-grin:  How about

catacombs/underground water vaults (I mean like this, not sure what to call it.  I guess this is not something we've done in Kali so far, but it fits with the Byzantine aesthetic)

medieval merchant caravan at an oasis

medieval shepherds in tents

bandits attacking a medieval merchant caravan through a mountain pass

Then there is also the swampy area at the bottom of Kali, maybe

castle in a swamp

medieval fishermen in a swamp land

Jonas_W_vaulted_byzantine_medieval_under

Jonas_W_vaulted_byzantine_medieval_under

Jonas_W_medieval_merchant_caravan_at_an_

Jonas_W_medieval_merchant_caravan_at_an_

Jonas_W_medieval_merchant_camel_caravan_ 

Jonas_W_medieval_merchant_camel_caravan_

Jonas_W_medieval_merchant_camel_caravan_

No bandits spawned on command...but it created some suggestions for the setting at least :classic:
Jonas_W_bandits_attacking_a_medieval_mer


It was interpreted as more of the "stately home" kind of castle, but with some more fortifications maybe a good inspiration?

Jonas_W_ancient_egyptian_castle_in_a_swa

Jonas_W_ancient_egyptian_castle_in_a_swa

Jonas_W_ancient_egyptian_castle_in_a_swa

Jonas_W_ancient_egyptian_style_fortress_

 

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fishing_

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fishing_ 

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fisherme

Jonas_W_medieval_middle-eastern_fishing_

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Oh yes!  I'm loving the caravans, gonna have to build a wagon like that sometime.  Houses on stilts are so great too.  The castle in the swamp is definitely more ornate than I would have expect, but that kind of fits the Kali vibe.  Thanks so much!  One day I will build some of these :laugh:

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7 hours ago, Kai NRG said:

Oh yes!  I'm loving the caravans, gonna have to build a wagon like that sometime.  Houses on stilts are so great too.  The castle in the swamp is definitely more ornate than I would have expect, but that kind of fits the Kali vibe.  Thanks so much!  One day I will build some of these :laugh:

I think I liked the last fortress picture of a more Egyptian style fortress the best, it fits best with my thinking of the south Kali architecture.

Maybe I should be a bit careful with the “high detail” and “intricate” in the prompts 🙃

The AI also seems to tend to interpret “castle” more like “château” than fortress.

But the Midjourney pictures in general (except for the swamp château) is definitely inspiring me to build a bit more ornate Kali builds, rather than the nougat brick and tan rough-hewn stone style I tend to end up in.

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Generated some more southern Kaliphlin concept art ("fortress in the style of an Egyptian temple"):

Jonas_W_egyptian_temple_on_a_hill_in_a_d

Jonas_W_fortress_in_the_style_of_an_egyp

Jonas_W_fortress_in_the_style_of_an_egyp

Jonas_W_fortress_in_the_style_of_an_egyp

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