Marvel Superheroes 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[NXS7]

1 hour ago, BusterNut31 said:

which character wears the skirt piece? I looked at the new girl with the bubblegum hair piece but her skirt is short at the back. In the 360 vid of the the A force set u can see Wanda skirt goes down and has a cut in the middle

Ahh, didn't notice that much. I had noticed the skirt, then I saw Lifebricks on Instagram do a side by side and it does look the same from the choice of photos, but you're right, they are different

[hvader]

The Lego.com description says that the Hulkbuster 4+ set is “Based on Avengers Infinity War”

What… how? Also is Thanos having a helmet a callback to the 2018 set when he also had a weird helmet???

I’m dying

[Mandalorianknight]

12 minutes ago, hvader said:

The Lego.com description says that the Hulkbuster 4+ set is “Based on Avengers Infinity War”

What… how? Also is Thanos having a helmet a callback to the 2018 set when he also had a weird helmet???

I’m dying

I suppose because Iron Man fought thanos in that film and also the hulkbuster was in the movie? I don't get why people care about this, it's a 4+ set. Whatever lego says it's based on has no bearing on the quality. Would people have really preferred this if it was some random 4+ rubble and the iron man was just a MK50 reprint?

[Undi3sss]

Kinda disappointed that Sandman's arm isn't a bigger aspect of the build, and the lack of The Lizard as well. 

I'm still hoping one day we get a modular Oscorp building, with The Lizard and Curt. The Daily Bugle has a giant TV with Curt on it so they'd just tie in so well together.

[NoOneOfImportance]

Thoughts on these (well, two of them): 

Super excited at the premise of a new "diorama-esque" series for Marvel, but the Endgame set just feels... Off? While I like the idea of it in concept, it just feels too cluttered. And if you're going to include the Shield and Hammer, put Cap, Iron Man, and Thor in the set. They are the main characters (no offense to those included) of the final battle, and to make a "diorama" set for that scene without the main characters is just disappointing, not to mention the lack of Nano-Gauntlet for $100. I do think the characters included are fine, and the Valkyrie and Wanda figs are well done, but it just doesn't work well for me (even if I am a sticker for dioramas and will likely end up with it sometime on sale).  

The NWH set is just such a mixed bag. Like people said, the lack of correct coloring on Ock and lack of better printing on Goblin/hood is just disappointing, but I do think the set is otherwise designed well enough as a battle scene for that part of the movie, and I'm sure it'll fly off the shelves, even at $110 USD. Definitely excited for it personally, but it probably won't be a day 1. 

 

On a different topic, is anyone else somewhat concerned about the future of this theme as a whole? LEGO has a LARGE number of sets on 20% sale on S@H, at least in the US, and I don't really see a lot of these sets, especially from recent movies, flying off shelves at all. All this lack of interest in MCU sets plus LEGO veering away to gimmick sets that have never really worked just makes me wonder where this will go...

[Nylock]

39 minutes ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

On a different topic, is anyone else somewhat concerned about the future of this theme as a whole? LEGO has a LARGE number of sets on 20% sale on S@H, at least in the US, and I don't really see a lot of these sets, especially from recent movies, flying off shelves at all. All this lack of interest in MCU sets plus LEGO veering away to gimmick sets that have never really worked just makes me wonder where this will go...

Absolutely. I think this is somewhat evidenced too by lego opting not to make quantumania sets. Must’ve projected that sales would be too minimal to even try and I wouldn’t be surprised if this happens with other marvel movies that come out in the future.

To be perfectly honest, at this particular point in time there’s no upcoming mcu project that I’m excited for. With NWH finally getting a set with the spideys, the only thing left that I’d like to see are some sets based off phase 1 & 2 movies that we haven’t gotten. After that, I’d be fine if they switched over to just comic adaptations for sets.

Also to throw it in here, I find it hilarious that the $90 iron man armory is $58 on Amazon and has been that way for a while now, and they still don’t seem well.

[Albert with an A]

Do we have a confirmed minifigure lineup for the Avengers Tower coming in November? 

Just saw that there is a list on Jedi Jac Penguin website: 

 

Is this a confirmed list or just speculation? 

[Lego_Minecraft_Goat]

10 hours ago, Scarilian said:

76250 rumored to be a Wolverine Helmet.

I think this is like 100% confirmed at this point. Brickmerge lists that set as 18+, having 596 pieces and releasing in August.

[JVM]

9 hours ago, upliftingbricks said:

As were missing 99% of Sandman in NWH set, Ill have to look at having a go at @hachiroku24 latest Giant Sandman using the Giant Maxi Harry/Hermione figures as a template.

Disappointed Electro didnt get a new mask mold as it could have been reused for a comic Electro in future. Shame.

I was thinking the same thing regarding Electro, and assumed that was an inevitability. I imagine it's possible they reasoned they couldn't do hair and a 'helmet' but it also chills my sense we may ever see a comic Electro, which is unfortunate as every other movie Spiderman villain we don't have a comic variant for... .except for Lizard, who we still have no representation for in the line. I realized he wasn't going to be in this set but I'm still disappointed. I hope LEGO has both of these characters in the pipeline if they ever do more mcu Spiderman sets or comic Spiderman sets.

They could do a follow-up set with the FEAST truck and include Lizard, Sandman, movie Aunt May and an unsuited Spiderman or something. Maybe Jameson? Almost no overlap with the larger NWH set and completes the scenes and villain roster. Bonus if they can include a dumpster and a Goblin mask, haha. Pretty sure there's no way we see unmasked Garfield or Maguire Spideys at this stage.

EDIT: I like the A-Force set in concept but I won't buy it for that. I really would've switched out Shuri for Wasp, given she's widely available in the BP2 sets. I'll probably bricklink Wanda and maybe Valkyrie, maybe the Thanos head? It's a odd set.

Will definitely pick up the mini Hulkbuster and Iron Man, probably off bricklink, and make some modifications to the buster.

Edited May 27, 2023 by JVM

[THELEGOBATMAN]

The No Way Home set is a huge suprise imo — the build is actually better than the minifigures. I thought they'd just quickly put together some rubbish, but it actually looks like the Statue's head, and makes for a great display piece. It looks quite impressive with the minifigures displayed.

The minifigures are mostly great too. Everyone looks fantastic except for Green Goblin and Doc Ock — the former is way too green. His suit in the movie is extremely detailed and features more colours than just green; the minifigure looks just plain, and they should've included a hood. Doc is way too gray, his coat should've brown-ish. The arms are also quite disappointing. 

So you know, the set itself looks fantastic — but there are other problems. Even though it has 900 pieces, it looks like a 70€ set. The problem with dioramas is that they are quite complex builds, which makes them really compact, which in result makes the sets look small and not worth the price.

Then there's the obvious Lizard problem. It was a perfect opportunity to include a character they've never done before — and yet for some reason they chose not to. That is baffling and makes the set less interesting. Sandman's hand is a nice inclusion, I just wish it was bigger.

Even tho I'm not a fan of the movie, I'll still be buying this set. Not only does it include extremely desirable minifigures, but it's actually a fantastic display piece too. Not to mention that in a few years it will be one of the best-selling sets on the aftermarket. Weird that they didn't put this set for pre-orders. It would sell out immediately. 

The other sets are a mixed bag. Groot actually looks awesome and is the second-best 2023 LEGO Marvel set? That was not on my bingo card. The Endgame set has a nice build for display, but it looks even smaller than the Spider-Man one, like a 60€ set. The minifigures are boring too — repeats or minor upgrades. Two Wakandan characters but not a single Guardian? Should've replaced Okoye with Mantis. The Hulkbuster is hilariously awful, even by 4+ standards.

[Ondra]

Looking at these dioeama sets, Im disappointed with price to the point Im not interested till huge discount.

One is literally pile of rubble with few minifigs, bigfig and Pegasus on top. No way it is 100 euro...

Second set is better, but I think 15 euro cut for start will looks better.

 

[BrickBob Studpants]

Does anybody remember who first reported on the Endgame set? I think it was a new account on IG, which is why nobody believed them  I need to 1) apologise to them and 2) find out if they had any other rumours that might now actually pan out

[Legocentrico]

26 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Qualcuno ricorda chi ha riferito per la prima volta sul set di Endgame? Penso che fosse un nuovo account su IG, motivo per cui nessuno gli ha creduto Devo 1) scusarmi con loro e 2) scoprire se avevano altre voci che ora potrebbero effettivamente uscire

thespiderman1048

 he also confirmed 9 minifigures for NWH when Stonewars only said 6. But there are no other hints with that account… It is clear to everyone, we're skeptical because there have been too many scammers in recent years, I think he's aware of that, and can't be offended if we didn't believe : -P now that we trust him but it's the perfect time to strike with some blatant fake :-D

Edited May 27, 2023 by Legocentrico

[upliftingbricks]

8 hours ago, Albert with an A said:

It's what I would expect but I think Ultron is only one we're aware of. Does Jedi Jac Penguin have a track record?

If true I guess were getting new helmets for Mark 43 and 45 with roughly same print.

Being based on AoU theres not much other options but wish we got new characters like when Daredevil and Punisher showed up in Bugle. I am really bored of same characters again and again (except for Iron Man and Spiderman more colourful variants)

Edited May 27, 2023 by upliftingbricks

[Legocentrico]

3 minuti fa, upliftingbricks ha detto:

È quello che mi aspetterei, ma penso che Ultron sia solo uno di cui siamo a conoscenza. Il pinguino Jedi Jac ha un track record?

Se fosse vero, immagino che stassimo ottenendo nuovi caschi per Mark 43 e 45 con all'incirca la stessa stampa.

Essendo basato su AoU non ci sono molte altre opzioni, ma vorrei che avessimo nuovi personaggi come quando Daredevil e Punisher si sono presentati in Bugle. Sono davvero annoiato degli stessi personaggi ancora e ancora

This is a lineup that has been around for quite some time. But no one is suspicious of Pepper??? Lego can take all the liberties he wants, but inserting a character who doesn't appear in the film, in such a specific set, would be a novelty ... I still maintain that he is fake

[Huigberts Builds]

Wow, I'm a bit late to this, but I really like the new sets. I hoped the statue of Liberty would be like apocalypseburg, and it is, almost brick for brick, just recoloured, I'm not complaining. The figures are fine as well, Ned, MJ and Strange aren't anything too special, but a nice inclusion either way. I actually really like Green Goblin, the legs really don't bother me, most important thing to me was the face and torso. Doc Ock is also great, only thing that bothers me is the colour and hairpiece, but that's easily fixable. Electro is pretty much perfect, Sandman is... sad, and the Spider-men are good, although I would have wished some leg printing. Either way, overall a good set.

The new endgame set would have been amazing if 76192 didn't exist, now I really don't have much need for it.

 

[_R_R_]

I'm more of a casual collector these days and my main focus is Pirates but I wanted to chime in and give my thoughts on the No Way Home set as well.

First of all I actually like the smaller Liberty statue head build with the scaffolding around it, I'm conservative with the space I have and I like to keep my display tidy so this will do perfectly, I also think the price isn't that bad for 900 pieces and 9 minifigures given the recent price inflation of Lego in general, for reference my most sought after set which I was finally able to find for a good price this year was the Black Pearl, a set from 2011 which was originally sold for $100 and only had around 800 pieces and 3 unique minifigures while this set has 5 unique minifigures and finally gives collectors a chance to get Tobey and Andrew's Spideys but unfortunately the minifigures is also where my complaints begin.

As far as the villains go, Goblin is a massive disappointment, the fact he has no hood, satchel or leg printing is a huge miss, Doc Ock has wrong colors and a bad hairpiece which is baffling since Harry Potter's hairpiece was right there, the exclusion of Lizard and Sandman are also a bummer I don't consider a brickbuilt hand sufficient enough for me to call it sandman. Electro is actually great and probably the best of the sinister bunch.

Tobey and Andrew could use some leg and arm printing but I'm honestly just happy to be able to get them, especially Tobey which just fills me with nostalgia thinking back to the days I had the Raimi sets. The rest I honestly don't care about, Strange is meh I wish he was replaced with Lizard instead since he only shows up after they cure most of the villains and Ned and MJ had to be in there I suppose but MJ is the laziest of them all the least they could've done was give her a scared face print to replicate the falling scene.

So yeah while I have a lot of complaints regarding the minifigs like most people I'm still getting the set because NWH was one of my favorite experiencies in the cinema and for me the most enjoyable Marvel movie in the past few years, I will definitely get some parts and a sandman minifigures to improve the set tho, hopefully TLG can give us a lizard at some point so I can add him to this and make it the centerpiece of the Marvel corner.

[SEmrys]

Bit late to the party here but I'll throw my two cents in anyway. I've been intrigued by the NWH set since it was first rumoured, figured I wouldn't care for the build but I'd pick up the figures. 

Funnily enough I actually prefer the build. I have no space for it ATM so I won't get it but it's a nice set. The figures are hit and miss, but Electro is good, as is Ock (colour and hairpiece aside). Goblin as many have said is disappointing but I do like the Norman face print. I'll keep an eye on them on the secondhand market for sure. 

The Spider-Men are cool obvs but after the Sanctum figure I've been spoiled with the leg printing and I'm not sure I can go back haha

[Clone OPatra]

I like what they're going for with both of these sets - display pieces that also work for play and aren't so drilled down into being a display like the Star Wars dioramas.

But with Superheroes the appeal always comes down to the Minifigures, and there are some significant misses.

Everybody has gone into detail already about Green Goblin, but to be honest the Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man figures look way too similar to me. Those suits actually look fairly different in the films, and LEGO should've gone after what sets them apart and heightened those details. As it is, it's like the same figure with minor print differences. And of course all characters needed leg printing.

As for the Endgame set, yeah it needed Rescue at least, not just lots of recycled figs. At least Wanda is a bit better than other recent versions.

Overall, even if I'm not buying much of this theme, I'd still like every new release to make me go "wow!" And not "wow, how small is that set and how underdetailed are those figures".

[THELEGOBATMAN]

30 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Everybody has gone into detail already about Green Goblin, but to be honest the Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man figures look way too similar to me. Those suits actually look fairly different in the films, and LEGO should've gone after what sets them apart and heightened those details. As it is, it's like the same figure with minor print differences. And of course all characters needed leg printing.

That perfectly represents No Way Home's final battle — a dark, ugly CGI mess where you couldn't properly tell which Spider-Man was which 

But to be honest, I don't know what more they could've done to differentiate between those two. The beads are different enough (Andrew's eyes should be slightly bigger), and the torsos are pretty different too. 

[PGBQW]

Are we sure the Spider-men are getting unmasked heads? I remember something about Andrew Garfield being very strongly against having his face used to sell toys.

Then again, maybe there's a loophole if Lego just reuses an old head (which they'd definetly had done anyway)

[Clone OPatra]

40 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

But to be honest, I don't know what more they could've done to differentiate between those two. The beads are different enough (Andrew's eyes should be slightly bigger), and the torsos are pretty different too. 

My memory from the Amazing Spider-Man movies was that Andrew's suit had a lot more blue, but looking at photos at both those and No Way Home, I guess I just kind of misremembered. The suits do look pretty samey in the movie as well.

[Ghostcat]

Pretty funny as Pepper wasnt in Age of Ultron! tbh shes never been depicted in Avengers Tower only Stark lol

[BacktoBricks]

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

I like what they're going for with both of these sets - display pieces that also work for play and aren't so drilled down into being a display like the Star Wars dioramas.

But with Superheroes the appeal always comes down to the Minifigures, and there are some significant misses.

Everybody has gone into detail already about Green Goblin, but to be honest the Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man figures look way too similar to me. Those suits actually look fairly different in the films, and LEGO should've gone after what sets them apart and heightened those details. As it is, it's like the same figure with minor print differences. And of course all characters needed leg printing.

As for the Endgame set, yeah it needed Rescue at least, not just lots of recycled figs. At least Wanda is a bit better than other recent versions.

Overall, even if I'm not buying much of this theme, I'd still like every new release to make me go "wow!" And not "wow, how small is that set and how underdetailed are those figures".

This is me exactly. I've got into Marvel a lot more over the past couple of years and I was just ready to start dropping some more money on the theme after the Sanctum and Benatar, but these are making me hesitant. I like the idea of display pieces that can be playable, but the sets are just too chaotic for me to feel like they are displayable without some kind of plaque to help centralise the vision. The Star Wars dioramas feel really clean to me and whilst I don't want every set to be so cookie cutter, these sets are just missing the mark for me. As some one new to the theme, the figure sections aren't bad as you get quite a few figs you'd have to source from various other sets otherwise, but at the same time the Avengers set is a little underwhelming. Rescue would have made a really cool and colourful addition, but you don't really have to look close to realise the the figs are a combination of other sets figures precisely because they are recycled. The budget feels a little tight this year what with the Guardians' figs basically being clones in all but heads. I hoping the D2C gives me more of that WOW! moment.

[Kaijumeister]

@Clone OPatra This hasn’t been the best year for Marvel, but I was so hopeful that out of everything, the NWH set would break the mould and truly deliver on all fronts. It’s not like Lego were working with  outdated concept art this time after all.

The fact that the set doesn’t fully deliver is so…maddening. Apologies if I sound entitled or hyperbolic, but this thing was so close to being a perfect set. NWH’s Green Goblin design is one of my favourites - the green armour, tattered purple hood and ‘cape’, and shoulder bag made for an incredibly cool design - and the Lego minifigure barely captures any of that (although I do appreciate they at least nailed Dafoe’s likeness). Of all the GG iterations, this could’ve made for one of the best Lego minifigures had they done a good job.

Similarly, even Otto’s torso / leg print looks a little off colour-wise (though again, excellent face print). And I struggle to believe that they couldn’t throw in 50-100 more pieces just to give a more substantial build for Sandman. The alternative heads for the three Spideys was always going to be a long shot so I won’t dwell on that, but it stings because Promobricks seemed to think this was actually going to happen.

I’m still really excited to buy this set, but at this point I’ve accepted that Lego Marvel will always compromise more than most licensed themes. It’s clear this theme doesn’t get the best budget and for whatever reason, shortcuts are abundant across most of the sets we see - whether that be due to budgetary constraints or just the discretion of the designers themselves.

Moving forward, whenever we get confirmation that Lego will adapt a highly anticipated scene / film from the MCU, I’m going to going to be mindful of tempering my excitement.

EDIT: I just realised Scarlet Witch even gets a soft goods skirt in the A-Force set. Goblin not getting a purple tattered soft goods cape is a massive shame.

Edited May 27, 2023 by Kaijumeister