LEGO Star Wars 2023 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Fulcrumfan91]

5 hours ago, Duke27 said:

According to some rumours, the Ghost is gonna be Amazon exclusive

Yup thats what I heard as well. I think the September sets are gonna be really good, Im obviously trying to temper expectations 

[Shiva]

8 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

Lol, pretty sure that's me. I stand by my reasoning though; LEGO pulled this thing out of nowhere. Shame it ended up not being the actual colour of a swamp speeder, since it's not accurate to any scene with 332nd clones either way. If it was red, I would have just used the clones for Mandalore stuff and put the swamp speeder with my 41st/Kashyyyk stuff. Now there's gonna be a blue swamp speeder sitting on my shelf being rather useless.

You could always switch the blue pieces of the swamp speeder to whatever colour you want. Jet packs, have there been red jetpacks? Atleast those ain'tin red in LEGO yet.

[Mandalorianknight]

17 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I agree, I've seen mixed opinions on the Y-Wing, but I disagree with the thought that a vehicle was unnecessary.  In a hangar-centric base like this one, I think it's really necessary to have a vehicle, especially one that actually fits (since a full size Y-Wing or X-Wing probably can't fit through the entrance door, or at least it would be a very tight squeeze).  It's the same way that the 2007 Echo Base set has a Snowspeeder.  Yeah, the base isn't as substantial, but it's largely depicting the main hangar, so it'd be odd to not have any sort of vehicle.

And as always, remember that the target audience of most system scale sets are kids, who definitely would want a vehicle to fly around with the base.  Especially in this case when there probably aren't a ton of play features (realistically I don't know what could really be incorporated on the inside.  I could see some sort of lever to change a display screen in the briefing/command rooms, but that's about it?), so it's sort of necessary to have a ship that can fly around.

100% agree, everything you just said was right. I also think it's better to have a Y-wing than a further downscaled X-wing, since we recently had an X-wing but it's been 6 years since the last Y-wing.

14 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

Because then it would at least not be the exact same Yoda we got in the last Yoda’s Starfighter. Ideally he should get tan and olive green dual molded short legs since it's not like he ever wore shoes.

It's not the exact same, but it's objectively a worse Yoda figure. There's no reason for him to have shoes the color of luke's flesh.

[STARHAWK]

Am i the only one who will bring critique to the Yavin 4 set ?

The build i small, bot for me i dont care as its not acurate and can be used just a starting point with some material for the bigger base - thats something that can be fixed - its lego
What cant be fixed is the minifig selection which is as usual not perfect.
Luke is great - finally yellow jacket without the medal printed
Han - why are we not getting the proper legs for Han ? Since UCS Cloud City we had doublemold sideprint, why cant we get the same treatment here just with the blue pants and red side print stripe ?
Leia - seems to be ok
Dodonna - we had him just recently - but ok here i can reuse the body for other generals present at Yavin by just switching head+hair
Pilots - cool, we need them - no complaint here
Chewie + 3PO + R2 -> slot waste - what should we do wit so many of the same figures over and over ?
R2-BHD - ok, another astromech variant, no harm here
Rebel fleet trooper - good but why not at least 2 of them ? I hope we get a battlepack which is long overdue
Rebel crew - why is he missing the visor piece in white which is super rare, that helmet looks stupid without that piece - why do they need to cut corners in a freaking 170 eur set ?

Why dont we have a Rebel ceremony guard 2x in this set to have a small ceremony scene ? Its a simple fig no new mold needed and also here the white visor should be used along with a printed visor down as the helmet itself does not allow to move it down

 

Same, this could be a day 1 purchase, instead i will have to wait for a massive discount to overweight the imperfections.

[AD_Bricks]

Holy crap, the only R2-BHD fig that's been made before now was from the UCS Y-Wing and is currently extremely expensive (cheapest on Bricklink is AU$90 and it's damaged). I had no idea astromechs could be this coveted, yeesh. Now I'm super happy that this little guy is in Yavin IV. That's a W.

[Archer]

So I’ve just built the tie interceptor. Love it!!!! I have most of my sets in an off site storage facility and want to dig out a standard tie to display it with. Without them on hand do people think it scales better with the 2021 tie or the 2012/2018 ties?

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, STARHAWK said:

Am i the only one who will bring critique to the Yavin 4 set ?

What cant be fixed is the minifig selection which is as usual not perfect.
Han - why are we not getting the proper legs for Han ? Since UCS Cloud City we had doublemold sideprint, why cant we get the same treatment here just with the blue pants and red side print stripe ?
Dodonna - we had him just recently - but ok here i can reuse the body for other generals present at Yavin by just switching head+hair
Chewie + 3PO + R2 -> slot waste - what should we do wit so many of the same figures over and over ?
Rebel fleet trooper - good but why not at least 2 of them ? I hope we get a battlepack which is long overdue
Rebel crew - why is he missing the visor piece in white which is super rare, that helmet looks stupid without that piece - why do they need to cut corners in a freaking 170 eur set ?

You must not have read some of the last couple pages, many people were complaining right when it was revealed.

Han: We've only ever had 1 Han with the dual-molded legs, and like you said, it was an MBS set. I don't think you can expect dual-molding and side leg printing on figs in a system set, it's pretty rare.

Dodonna: Sure, we just had him recently, but he's pretty integral to the briefing room scene. He was always gonna be in Yavin.

The other three and the troopers, I understand the issue a lot more, though realize there hasn't been a normal C-3PO in a non-18+ set since 2020, and a normal chewbacca in a non-18+ set since 2019. We are of course constantly plagued by Artoos, so it would have been nice to get another fleet trooper instead, but it's not as bad as it could have been. Plus, it'd be weird if all the other main characters were there but Artoo was missing.

Rebel Crew: This one's fair. They should have included a white visor. (There is a solution: Buy the visor with the calculator or stuntz driver printing, then nail polish it off. A bit of effort, and they should have included it, but overall not huge)

TLDR: Is the figure selection perfect? No. Would another trooper or crew be nice? Yeah. Is 12 figs in a $170 set the best we've had in quite awhile? Yes.

There are some real issues with Lego Star Wars nowadays. I don't think the Yavin 4 figs are one.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

3 hours ago, STARHAWK said:

Am i the only one who will bring critique to the Yavin 4 set ?

The build i small, bot for me i dont care as its not acurate and can be used just a starting point with some material for the bigger base - thats something that can be fixed - its lego
What cant be fixed is the minifig selection which is as usual not perfect.
Luke is great - finally yellow jacket without the medal printed
Han - why are we not getting the proper legs for Han ? Since UCS Cloud City we had doublemold sideprint, why cant we get the same treatment here just with the blue pants and red side print stripe ?
Leia - seems to be ok
Dodonna - we had him just recently - but ok here i can reuse the body for other generals present at Yavin by just switching head+hair
Pilots - cool, we need them - no complaint here
Chewie + 3PO + R2 -> slot waste - what should we do wit so many of the same figures over and over ?
R2-BHD - ok, another astromech variant, no harm here
Rebel fleet trooper - good but why not at least 2 of them ? I hope we get a battlepack which is long overdue
Rebel crew - why is he missing the visor piece in white which is super rare, that helmet looks stupid without that piece - why do they need to cut corners in a freaking 170 eur set ?

Why dont we have a Rebel ceremony guard 2x in this set to have a small ceremony scene ? Its a simple fig no new mold needed and also here the white visor should be used along with a printed visor down as the helmet itself does not allow to move it down

 

Same, this could be a day 1 purchase, instead i will have to wait for a massive discount to overweight the imperfections.

3PO, Chewie, and R2 may not be interesting inclusions, but they are integral to recreating the medal ceremony scene. And since 12 minifigs is a crazy high amount for a set of this price regardless, if you convinced Lego to take out 3PO and R2 they wouldn’t be replaced by anyone, since 10 minifigures is still higher than the norm. So having them included is a nice bonus, not a less desirable substitution.

[AD_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Archer said:

Without them on hand do people think it scales better with the 2021 tie or the 2012/2018 ties?

I have both 2018 and 2021, and the Interceptor seems to scale better with 2018, but aesthetics-wise it's closer to 2021 and looks better alongside it.

[MaximillianRebo]

The only way I could see Lego not including multiple named characters in the Yavin set is if it was releasing side by side with an Episode 4 Falcon, then you could put the main ANH crew in the Falcon and stock Yavin with more officers and tech crew, plus maybe the medal ceremony variants.

As it currently stands though you've gotta look at it from the perspective of someone just getting into (or back into) Lego - rather than an AFOL who's been collecting for years - where it makes no sense to release a Yavin set minus several key characters and no way to easily obtain them. Maybe you could argue that the Trash Compactor fills that gap, but I don't see TLG pushing that sort of product synergy between dioramas and system scale sets.

[Crazy bricks]

I think Yavin would be impossible to do properly unless it cost 600 GBP+, so I'm rather happy with this one and think it captures the look nicely. Would like to see it without the box background, I think that may actually make it look bigger than it actually is. 

[Darth Shadowthrone]

I think for me personally Yavin just looks too monochrome and drab - I was actually curious about the set as it would be a great accompaniment to the Ghost or Millenium Falcon but it’s too small for them to scale well next to it and it just looks far too drab to me personally 

[Graupensuppe]

On 5/21/2023 at 4:56 AM, Kit Figsto said:

I disagree with the thought that a vehicle was unnecessary.  In a hangar-centric base like this one, I think it's really necessary to have a vehicle, especially one that actually fits (since a full size Y-Wing or X-Wing probably can't fit through the entrance door, or at least it would be a very tight squeeze).  It's the same way that the 2007 Echo Base set has a Snowspeeder.  Yeah, the base isn't as substantial, but it's largely depicting the main hangar, so it'd be odd to not have any sort of vehicle.

IMO the rebel personnel carrier would have been sufficient.

[Alas_Earwax]

I think the Yavin set looks fantastic. Lego Star Wars has needed to delve further into more location-style sets for some time. We've received countless ships, rehashes of old types of vehicles and such; but there's still so much we haven't had yet in terms of locations.

[Archer]

11 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

I have both 2018 and 2021, and the Interceptor seems to scale better with 2018, but aesthetics-wise it's closer to 2021 and looks better alongside it.

Thanks I guess I'll dig out the 2021 Tie. I'm just so hyped to have all 4 main TIEs in a relatively consistent design for the first time in 20 years!

 

Regarding Yavin 4 I am ecstatic that the set finally got made but I feel the set  would have been better served with a slightly increased piece budget to what they have provided us with. Enough parts to bulk up the main build, retool the unforgivably bad tree, and maybe add a midi scale x-wing as well.

Figwise, I'm ok with what we get, Red Leader and updated medal ceremony figs were what i wanted out of this set and they were provided, even better that the medals are they're own pieces. If I wanted to be really wishful I'd have preferred a new astromech to one I already own, but apparently BHD was silly expensive so i'm ok with it's inclusion. Also makes sense given the Y-Wing and Gold Leader. 

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Graupensuppe said:

IMO the rebel personnel carrier would have been sufficient.

I guarantee you that if you give any kid a choice between the y-wing and the tiny, slow, unarmed personal carrier, they'll choose the Y-wing. (Plus, the personnel carrier is there to bring pilots to their ships...)

2 hours ago, Alas_Earwax said:

I think the Yavin set looks fantastic. Lego Star Wars has needed to delve further into more location-style sets for some time. We've received countless ships, rehashes of old types of vehicles and such; but there's still so much we haven't had yet in terms of locations.

100% agree. Hopefully this does well and we can get more location playsets. I think Exogol is a good choice for another location set, albeit more at $70-100 than $170.

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think Exogol is a good choice for another location set, albeit more at $70-100 than $170.

Long have I waited... Couldn't agree more, Exegol would make for a great playset, especially the Senate's cool-looking throne that even gives the Iron Throne a run for its money  Can't believe they still refuse to make a set based on that.

Also, taking a closer look at the Yavin set, I take back anything bad I said about it. Except for the "stupid tree" comment

[Darth Shadowthrone]

Location sets are something I really want to see more of from the Sequel Trilogy and Exogol tops that list for me! 
 

Something I might be unrealistically hoping for as well is a knights of Ren battle pack before the specialised pieces go out of production 

[STARHAWK]

I have noticed one interesting thing at the Yodas starfighter (correct me if im wrong or if someone already posted about it)

There is a new print for the cockpit. Looks like the version of TIE cockpit visible from interior. Its the one error in the movies - interior and exterior view on the TIE cockpit does not match. So now we would have 3 versions of the print ?

The new Interceptor has a slightly smaler octagon than the previous versions and now the Yodas starfighter has it turned 22.5 degree.

Thats perhaps the only positive thing on the set ?

 

[Clone OPatra]

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

100% agree. Hopefully this does well and we can get more location playsets. I think Exogol is a good choice for another location set, albeit more at $70-100 than $170.

We need an Otto Gunga throne room with Boss Nass and Anakin's house with Shmi and naked 3PO before a throne on a lazily/hurriedly designed barren rock planet with Adam Driver in a plain long sleeve black shirt from Gap. In my humble opinion, that is.

But yes there are truly so many Star Wars locations that we've never gotten, especially from the Prequels.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Clone OPatra said:

We need an Otto Gunga throne room with Boss Nass and Anakin's house with Shmi and naked 3PO before a throne on a lazily/hurriedly designed barren rock planet with Adam Driver in a plain long sleeve black shirt from Gap. In my humble opinion, that is.

But yes there are truly so many Star Wars locations that we've never gotten, especially from the Prequels.

I've seen Exogol requested much more than either of these. And I'm not sure why you think it'd be a big rock. Exogol has the Sith Throne and it's interesting design, any implementation of the Omnic Harness, the cloning equipment/jar of snokes, and if we want to really build it up, there's that whole area with the giant sith statues and the sort of floating elevator thing Kylo rides down on. It's also, importantly, based on the climax of the skywalker saga, and has a multitude of action scenes within it. I think you're letting your dislike of TROS get in the way of the viability of the set. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the film is good, I'd say it's the 4th worst live action canon SW film. I would also love an exogol set, and I've seen many others request it as well.)

I do think the Yavin format could work for some locations from the prequels that couldn't be adequately made at the lower price points. I think Pentaki really needs an MBS to be done well, but a jedi temple would be perfect here. Something like a facade of one side of the temple with a downscaled (so... correctly scaled) delta-7 and a selection of 10-12 jedi would do pretty well, I think. A larger Mustafar could also potentially do well.

[Clone OPatra]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think you're letting your dislike of TROS get in the way of the viability of the set.

Yes I let my hate flow through me.

To be clear I don't think an Exogol isn't viable at all. It'd be better than Obi-Wan ve Vader on a flat grey base. But, as an adult fan and purchaser of LEGO Star Wars since 1999, I'd just really like to finally see more visually interesting locations from Episode I especially, like Theed and Otto Gunga, and get characters that we still haven't gotten after 24 years.

Granted there isn't much obvious playability in Otto Gunga, but Theed could work at a variety of price points with a variety of potential characters. I love that LEGO is confident enough to go fairly large with Yavin (despite it probably being better even larger), and certainly want to see that carried on.

[Agent Kallus]

TroS is without a shadow of a doubty least favourite star wars movie, and the whole 'conclusion of the Skywalker Saga' thing is nonsense as no-one even called it the Skywalker saga before TroS, however I do still think an Exegol set could be interesting but I can't see one bigger than like 50-60 quid because what more could you reasonably expect than the throne, the GLaDOS looking thing, a couple smoke jars and some rocks, the statues are too far from the main action and too big unless scaled down, the stands do nothing ( all those supposed sith cultists just watch Palpatine die again and then what do they do? The camera doesn't even zoom in on them, does Rey just leave them sitting there?) Maybe a moving platform and some painfully underwhelming knights of Ren? ( I really though that they were gonna be Ben's fellow defectors from Luke's academy but nope just some random guy's posse that Kylo sorta takes over but in the film they aren't anything special).

[Flawless Cowboy]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'd say it's the 4th worst live action canon SW film

I’d put a power gap ten light years long between TROS and the second worst film, but that’s just me

[Hhalcyon]

On 5/22/2023 at 2:38 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

You must not have read some of the last couple pages, many people were complaining right when it was revealed.

Seeeeeeeeeeeriously. I don't get the common internet conversation starter of "AM i the only person who X" when there's 3 pages of people doing X before they started talking. They've been talking about it on instagram, youtube, reddit, everywhere and someone will still come in and think they're the ONLY person criticising something? on the entire planet? really?

 

1 hour ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

I’d put a power gap ten light years long between TROS and the second worst film, but that’s just me

Similarly Revenge of the Sith is several galaxies ahead of the second best film. Objectively. Please everybody take this post very seriously.

To add something somewhat meaningful to the conversation other than my trolling, does anyone know if the upcoming Yoda Starfighter includes THE EXACT same yoda we already have? If so that's a very strange choice. Why would they make it if they have legitimately nothing new to offer except a slightly larger cockpit?