[CADA] CADA General Discussion Topic

[aFrInaTi0n]

@Arioh your pictures are not accessible anymore. (I recommend to use bricksafe.com :D)

[williamyzfr1]

I recently received a preordered CADA RUF GT. I was amazed by the complexity of some parts of the build and overall it exceeded my expectations. It even has sprung closing doors courtesy of shock absorbers.

There were only two negatives:

With the exception of the instrument cluster all bodywork stickers are applied (according to the instructions) almost at the end of the build, I prefer to apply during the build. However, this could have been done with a bit of forethought on my part.

Secondly, there are four printed parts (the striped curves on roof and bonnet). One of mine has a serious flaw and I have asked CADA for a replacement. Last time I asked for the relacement of a flawed part (Alfa Romeo F1 Car) the part never arrived.

 

Edited July 9 by williamyzfr1

[thekoRngear]

Hafta agree that looks very very polished!  

[R0Sch]

I just saw a brick built 1:8 (and 1:24 scale) Honda F1 Oracle Red Bull Racing set using the cool Pirelli tires from CaDA with yellow printing now. Wonder if this is the reason why the Alfa Romeo gets discontinued. A real pity this is not a CaDA licensed model but a Rastar set. Looks like the Chinese are starting to copy themselves now or they use the same parts manufacturer.

[astyanax]

23 hours ago, R0Sch said:

Looks like the Chinese are starting to copy themselves now or they use the same parts manufacturer.

I think they've been copying themselves for a long time already. Especially the Lamborghini Centenario and Ferrari 488 Pista have been done by multiple manufacturers. 

[aFrInaTi0n]

But the latter is also true, at least there are GoBricks and CaDA which are resellers to other brands within the chinese marketwhich use the parts to then create their (possibly same model) sets to be published under their brand..

Hope I did not Voldem%$# with calling the other brand already, if so some mod may adjust to the better.. 

Edited July 12 by aFrInaTi0n

[mla2]

On 7/11/2024 at 7:45 PM, R0Sch said:

Looks like the Chinese are starting to copy themselves now or they use the same parts manufacturer.

The Rastar set is not a copy but instead is licensed from Lukas2020 I believe.

[TeamThrifty]

On 7/3/2024 at 11:58 PM, eric trax said:

The premiere is planned for July/August

Very much looking forward to this. Its great to see Ag getting the flagship treatment.

[nerdsforprez]

Anyone know if there is a parts list for the Military Crane Truck by @efferman? 

[efferman]

A part list is in this folder

https://www.flickr.com/photos/57623735@N08/albums/72177720312976358/

 

[nerdsforprez]

57 minutes ago, efferman said:

A part list is in this folder

https://www.flickr.com/photos/57623735@N08/albums/72177720312976358/

 

[Sokolov Edward]

22 hours ago, efferman said:

A part list is in this folder

Sad picture. Apparently, under pressure from Lego, Mould King also began to “cut” the parts into pieces. In new models and new versions of old ones, cut frames and other details are found. MK even cut 60484 and 18651. This fuss reminded me of Apple’s attempts to prohibit moving your finger on the touch screen on Android.

[amorti]

25 minutes ago, Sokolov Edward said:

Sad picture. Apparently, under pressure from Lego, Mould King also began to “cut” the parts into pieces. In new models and new versions of old ones, cut frames and other details are found. MK even cut 60484 and 18651. This fuss reminded me of Apple’s attempts to prohibit moving your finger on the touch screen on Android.

Huh?

The parts list is for Efferman's crane, published by CaDA.

Also please keep in mind this non-LEGO thread exists on a LEGO-only board by admin's good grace only, and they don't much care for MK who have stolen models from several members on here.

[Sokolov Edward]

12 minutes ago, amorti said:

The parts list is for Efferman's crane, published by CaDA.

What I'm saying is that now it's not just Cada that "cuts" parts. The process spreads further and I really don’t like it. The new parts that Lego creates every year are enough for me (sarcasm).

[efferman]

11 minutes ago, Sokolov Edward said:

What I'm saying is that now it's not just Cada that "cuts" parts. The process spreads further and I really don’t like it. The new parts that Lego creates every year are enough for me (sarcasm).

It is neccessary to avoid legal infringments. Aside this, the parts are giving new possibilitys to build.

[Sokolov Edward]

3 hours ago, efferman said:

It is neccessary to avoid legal infringments. Aside this, the parts are giving new possibilitys to build.

Now there is one law in the world - whoever is stronger is right - the weak call it democracy. Cut frames and other parts only worsen the rigidity of the structure. I am for a “pure” Lego Technic - other companies make beautiful models from unique parts (Maisto, etc).

In the picture, the Cada JJ6035 part can easily be replaced with the classic 32034 + 2 axles 32062.

I assembled Cada Fantasma myself (without buying a kit) - there are 2 JJ6037 parts in it just like that without any obvious need - steps B243 and B244. Standard parts are cut because of Lego, and other parts are invented on their own to create the appearance of uniqueness.

Edited July 24 by Sokolov Edward

[TeamThrifty]

On 7/24/2024 at 4:17 PM, Sokolov Edward said:

to create the appearance of uniqueness.

This is a complait about a problem that isn't a problem. Its quite the opposite. The peice in question, in this example, could have just used a standard lego piece... but it has 3 holes. 32034 has only 1. There are many times i would find the cada piece very very useful.
Necessity is the mother of invention, and what we're seeing here is exactly that. 

Rejoice rather than complain. Its not quite Genesis 2.0, but more parts, more options, more fun building is the way i see it. 

 

...and of course, this unique piece (cos it is unique), is useable in this scenario due to the other unique pieces - the 2-part frames. 

I think this is a wonderful expansion of options.

[Sokolov Edward]

13 hours ago, TeamThrifty said:

I think this is a wonderful expansion of options.

“The Lord, in His all-merciful mercy, made everything necessary simple, and everything complicated unnecessary.”
I'm not complaining - I'm already horrified by the scale of the inflated number of Lego Technique parts. It looks like a commercial product forcing people to buy new kits for new parts rather than build them from old ones. For example, having more than 20,000 parts of 1,000 different types, I cannot assemble a new McLaren P1 at all, and for a Mercedes G500 I need to come up with a replacement for at least 2 parts - a green gear and a new suspension part (6452854). The green gear for the gearbox (6434577) can be assembled from 2 old parts (32187+69778) using glue, a knife and a drill. The suspension fork will also have to be replaced with a structure made from old parts. This, of course, adds drive to the assembly process, but not everything can always be replaced without losing appearance and/or functionality.

Edited July 30 by Sokolov Edward

[Toastie]

43 minutes ago, Sokolov Edward said:

It looks like a commercial product forcing people to buy new kits for new parts rather than build them from old ones.

"There are unsmiling faces in fetters and chains
On a wheel in perpetual motion"

Don't know - maybe Alan Parsons also plays with LEGO - although - at the days of that album, LEGO was still LEGO. By the way, 20000 parts of 1000 different types - exactly the same happened to me. I do have quite a number of Technic parts from the good old days, particularly of the type with studs  ... but when my storage box count for Technic parts exceeded a critical number, I called it quits.

I am now playing with LEGO Technic Control stuff from the mid/late 1980s, assemble vintage computers I dreamt of or had back then, and like Danish beer (a lot) - weirdo, I know.

But yes, these are the two sides of the same coin; new parts = new nifty mechanisms, particularly for purists - at the expense of needing to buy new sets - just for these parts. Which is ... a wheel in perpetual motion. And maybe a perpetual motion machine of the fourth kind ....

I, too, like drilling and gluing ABS ...

Best,
Thorsten

[Sokolov Edward]

49 minutes ago, Toastie said:

I, too, like drilling and gluing ABS ...

I chose Lego Technics so that there would be no need to glue, saw, paint, etc.
Another bucket of sweat for a sip of inspiration.

[2GodBDGlory]

Well, I'd agree that it can be an expensive hobby to keep up with, but I don't think it has to be. Personally, I haven't bought a Technic set with my own money in years (4?), and I generally budget around $30 a year to pick up any useful new parts, either from Lego directly, sometimes Bricklink, or (increasingly), clone parts from China. In addition, I'll often 3D print new parts where precision is less important, or modify existing parts into newly released ones. Between all that, I spend very little to stay "up to date" on Technic parts. Now, if they didn't release new parts, I wouldn't have to do any of this, but I'm glad they do release new parts. For one thing, it inspires building different models, because sometimes a new part allows for doing something in a way that wasn't possible before. Beyond that, it gives longtime builders encouragement to keep building, because it means that anything you build now is likely to be an improvement on anything you built 4 years ago, even just through new parts. I see it kind of like a board/card game that continually releases new expansions. On one hand, it does make them more money, but on the other hand, hobbyists want to spend that money, because it keeps the hobby they love fresh and interesting. 

I do often question the utility of specific new parts (panels!), but other ones (gearboxes!) make me very excited. 

Anyways, just my opinion!

[gyenesvi]

I agree that new parts are useful to keep things evolving, and you don't need to spend on new sets if you don't want to, just buy the few new parts. They are not that numerous that it would be hard to keep inventory up to date, especially if you are not interested in new panels in all available colors.

12 hours ago, Sokolov Edward said:

and for a Mercedes G500 I need to come up with a replacement for at least 2 parts

I wonder how you are going to replace the new angled connector?

[AVCampos]

5 minutes ago, gyenesvi said:

I wonder how you are going to replace the new angled connector?

Perhaps with pairs of these? (with reinforcement elsewhere to compensate for the lack of rigidity)
https://rebrickable.com/parts/32126/technic-axle-and-pin-connector-toggle-joint-smooth/

[Sokolov Edward]

9 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

I wonder how you are going to replace the new angled connector?

These parts are used in load-bearing posts, not decorative ones. Therefore, it is necessary to ensure the rigidity of the structure. I hope that connectors like #2 or #3 with a “slight” interference will fit.

[gyenesvi]

16 hours ago, AVCampos said:

Perhaps with pairs of these? (with reinforcement elsewhere to compensate for the lack of rigidity)
https://rebrickable.com/parts/32126/technic-axle-and-pin-connector-toggle-joint-smooth/

I don't see where else you could reinforce these in the door frame, where that's the only structure, since it opens. Or you will just have to be okay with it being flimsy.

7 hours ago, Sokolov Edward said:

These parts are used in load-bearing posts, not decorative ones. Therefore, it is necessary to ensure the rigidity of the structure. I hope that connectors like #2 or #3 with a “slight” interference will fit.

I guess if it was that simple there would not have been a need to introduce a new one :)