Wizarding World 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[Lacdaran]

5 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

I really like how they are starting to experiment with this style, looking at the Hospital Wing and descriptions of Dumbledore's Office. 

I still think the new style is a major downgrade, but I agree we are seeing some minor improvement. 

I entirely skipped last year, but I am getting the hospital wing for madam pomfrey, and I think I can modify it into shape to fit with my 2018 castle sets.

[Micmac]

6 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

That's why I love the new Hogwarts style. This looks absolutely fantastic!

You could never have done that with previous sets. They looked awkward when connected.

I watched Hollys video and thought the opposite, what a train wreck the new style looks like from the outside. It looks like it was designed by different people that got a tiny brief at the start and then they never communicated again. I really don't feel like they put enough time into some of the smaller sets last year to bring the whole design together and it really lets the new system down. And the new clocktower and flying lessons look like they are from a different line and have been added to it just because they fit. Interiors are much better due to the extra width but not all the room benefit from it. 

They needed an official layout for the last version of Hogwarts as well and to design that into all the sets. I think both series have some design issues which I think lego really need to put more time into working them out in the future.

I'm glad you enjoy the new style. I'm loving the figures and new parts anyway. 

[Hiker13]

5 hours ago, Micmac said:

I watched Hollys video and thought the opposite, what a train wreck the new style looks like from the outside. It looks like it was designed by different people that got a tiny brief at the start and then they never communicated again. I really don't feel like they put enough time into some of the smaller sets last year to bring the whole design together and it really lets the new system down. And the new clocktower and flying lessons look like they are from a different line and have been added to it just because they fit. Interiors are much better due to the extra width but not all the room benefit from it. 

They needed an official layout for the last version of Hogwarts as well and to design that into all the sets. I think both series have some design issues which I think lego really need to put more time into working them out in the future.

I'm glad you enjoy the new style. I'm loving the figures and new parts anyway. 

Honestly, the 2018/20 sets are best for their exteriors and the 2021/22’s are better for interiors. 
The old ones have crazy small interiors in some cases (think Astronomy Tower!) and the new ones look nothing like the movie version or even book descriptions (again, see Astronomy Tower 🤯)

Major props to anyone who has combined these.😵‍💫

[BrickBob Studpants]

Indy not coming out this year has sawn a leg off of 2022‘s favourite-year-ever throne 

Now it‘s down to HP to save it. 2022 only gets my award if the MoM set is confirmed to be based on DH part 1 and if the D2C set is a DA expansion

Edited March 6, 2022 by BrickBob Studpants

[krimimimi]

7 hours ago, Hiker13 said:

The old ones have crazy small interiors in some cases (think Astronomy Tower!) and the new ones look nothing like the movie version or even book descriptions (again, see Astronomy Tower 🤯)

Major props to anyone who has combined these.😵‍💫

Except the AT's worst rooms were 8x8, a largely useless format in a build with support on three sides, and that's precisely what we're seeing repeated in the new modular format. Too many of those non-sensical spaces without the AT's care to the exterior to show for it.  Adding on even the slight bulge as in the Ravenclaw dorm made the space more useable and gave the whole build more architectural relevance.

Oky had done a really neat build for the lego ideas 20th anniversary celebration. Aside from capturing so many iconic scenes from the HP stories, it's an interesting study in the difference even a single stud can make to such vignettes. (Contrast Divination, Umbridge's office or the scene with Moody (6 stud width) with Myrtle's lavatory or Lupin's Boggart lesson (7 stud width), or 10 for the Gryffindor Common Room.) And here again, in a play set, you'd want to be able to place a minifig in the Boggart Cabinet or the lavatory stall, so even a seven stud interior measure ends up being too small.

Our Textorix has put a lot of work into combining the new with the old sets. For the most part I'd say it's about contorting the news sets until they pick up where system 2018+ left off. (We may be biased... )

[THELEGOBATMAN]

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

2022 only gets my award if the MoM set is confirmed to be based on DH part 1 and if the D2C set is a DA expansion

At least one of those statements is true 

[BrickBob Studpants]

28 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

At least one of those statements is true 

Well, it‘s not 100% confirmed yet  I do believe it is based on the descriptions, but you always have to be careful with prelims

[krimimimi]

I wonder if it's too early to hope for a DA expansion? The first two Ninjago City sets (City and Docks) weren't available for a good year + before Ninjago City Gardens was released, and DA was released 2020 and is still (theoretically) on the shelves. Both DA and the Ninjago City / Gardens are a fair bit more expensive than the Expert Modulars, so I could see them being in slower rotation, if they're in rotation as a series at all that is. On the other hand, I wondered if they might not have sold more NCs if people knew the series was going to be continued... That's one of the nice things about the Expert Modulars, you know you'll have a street eventually, even if you skip something you're less keen on.

I don't follow the other series much, so I was curious, has anyone heard a lego designer's statement about that approach to the release schedule that (if we squint just right) might also apply to HP's DA? Like if on consideration they thought that gap was a good move or not?

[Clone OPatra]

8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Well, it‘s not 100% confirmed yet  I do believe it is based on the descriptions, but you always have to be careful with prelims

Yeah, they've changed whole characters and things before between prelim and release. If it's really so difficult to determine which characters are included in the rough prelims that have been seen behind close doors, it's possible that even LEGO themselves were still deciding whether to make it OotP or DH at the time they made the prelim.

[lifeinplastic]

Does anyone know if the summer sets are likely to contain any Hogwarts students in uniform? I am waiting to see if they will continue with the grey torsos without the badge from the previous sets, whereas the Hogwarts moments sets all include the torso with the house badges. I don't want to go and buy a lot of one, only to find out they will be discontinued! It is a very annoying change and only designed to make money, as I notice more recent sets have not included the school jumper torsos but robes like in the trunk..

[Clone OPatra]

1 hour ago, lifeinplastic said:

Does anyone know if the summer sets are likely to contain any Hogwarts students in uniform? I am waiting to see if they will continue with the grey torsos without the badge from the previous sets, whereas the Hogwarts moments sets all include the torso with the house badges. I don't want to go and buy a lot of one, only to find out they will be discontinued! It is a very annoying change and only designed to make money, as I notice more recent sets have not included the school jumper torsos but robes like in the trunk..

If any uniformed students are to come, they'd be in the two Hogwarts sets. Harry and Hermione won't be in Hogwarts uniforms in the Sirius Escape set, but the Ginny/mystery fourth figure could be, and potentially the students in Dumbledore's Office could be.

Personally I kind of doubt that they'll continue with the inaccurate Moments jumpers since they've mostly been sticking to accuracy in figure designs. The fact that last year's sets included full robes was a nice point of difference for people who have been buying the theme since 2018, but a mix would certainly be nice for people who have missed some of the jumpers.

If you're buying on the secondary market anyway, why not buy whichever you prefer? I'd go with the accurate ones without badges personally, and they never even made a Hufflepuff jumper with a badge.

I also don't think the change is really about money. The Moments sets are weird anyway, and it's a nostalgic callback to earlier on in the theme. It's not like when they update a Stormtrooper design, and now your new Stormtrooper doesn't fit in with your army of older ones. You could headcanon that some students have a housebadge on their jumper and some don't anyhow.

[lifeinplastic]

Thanks @Clone OPatra - I had overlooked the fact the 'Hufflepuff' Hogwarts Moments set did not include the house torso but specialist Herbology ones, so a Hufflepuff jumper with badge doesn't actually exist.

Annoyingly, the student pack of the 4 different houses is no longer sold here in the UK. However, it is currently discounted on the US site. Is it possible to order items from overseas (e.g. from the US site to be shipped to the UK)?

[eldiano]

The only castle I have missed so far is the Gryffindor’s Room promo from lego, I’m hoping they can let us buy more of these individually in the future!!! What sucks is that I already have all the HP sets and don’t feel like double dipping on the same old same old just for that set ahaha  

[Alas_Earwax]

I've recently managed to get my hands on the Diagon Alley set from the lego store (its been out of stock for some time at my end).

I love the set, but does anyone else find the overall building of it tiresome? I feel like Ollivanders took me way too long to complete and I'm usually pretty quick at building lego sets.

Also with regards to the big UCS set coming. I have a theory that hasn't been mentioned yet. I wondered whether they were going to create a more accurate-minifigure scale UCS Hogwarts. Seen as fans were complaining about the grey roofs being ditched and demanding accurate sets, at that price point I genuinely thought maybe they will go back and design a large portion of Hogwarts and make it screen accurate from the outside and inside. I genuinely could see a HUGE Great Hall included in a set like that selling well, considering the 2018-2020 waves are literally waiting to retire these days. I feel this way they can sort of say "the UCS is for the adults/the green roofs are for a younger audience". I know they've done the UCS Hogwarts thing before, but I think a minifigure scale one would out-sell that in a heartbeat. Just my theory. I don't think Gringott's is likely at that price point, I also don't think casual shoppers would pay it, no matter how iconic it is to Harry Potter fans.

 

EDIT: Also would like to add that despite the 2018-2020 line being accurate outside, fans complained about the limited space inside. I think a huge price point like that could fix that issue.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Alas_Earwax

[NoOneOfImportance]

6 minutes ago, Alas_Earwax said:

Also with regards to the big UCS set coming. I have a theory that hasn't been mentioned yet. I wondered whether they were going to create a more accurate-minifigure scale UCS Hogwarts. Seen as fans were complaining about the grey roofs being ditched and demanding accurate sets, at that price point I genuinely thought maybe they will go back and design a large portion of Hogwarts and make it screen accurate from the outside and inside. I genuinely could see a HUGE Great Hall included in a set like that selling well, considering the 2018-2020 waves are literally waiting to retire these days. I feel this way they can sort of say "the UCS is for the adults/the green roofs are for a younger audience". I know they've done the UCS Hogwarts thing before, but I think a minifigure scale one would out-sell that in a heartbeat. Just my theory. I don't think Gringott's is likely at that price point, I also don't think casual shoppers would pay it, no matter how iconic it is to Harry Potter fans.

If the $470 is an expansion to DA, it will likely be Gringotts, the Ukranian Ironbelly, and some other buildings, such as Borgin and Burkes, etc. It definitely wouldn't just be Gringotts. 

The big issue with it being a larger Hogwarts expansion is that they would have to create a large enough connected Hogwarts for people to appreciate it as something more than a connected group of smaller sets (similar to the Assault on Hoth debacle), while also including enough of the castle that people wouldn't complain that it didn't have building x/y/z. So maybe a Great Hall and Grand Staircase Tower could work, but we'll see. I still expect a DA expansion at this point. 

[Brickity]

2 hours ago, lifeinplastic said:

Is it possible to order items from overseas (e.g. from the US site to be shipped to the UK)?

I did that in 2020 but now, if I shop from LEGO US it will only let me enter US addresses.

[Roebuck]

10 hours ago, Alas_Earwax said:

I love the set, but does anyone else find the overall building of it tiresome? I feel like Ollivanders took me way too long to complete and I'm usually pretty quick at building lego sets

I also spent a fair bit of time building it, but that should mean that it have a lot of details and advanced building techniques right. So not a bad thing in my mind that when you buy a expensive Lego set it takes some hours to build it, that is the fun part after all, looking at it at the shelf later on the other hand soon gets boring

[Micmac]

On 3/6/2022 at 3:05 PM, Hiker13 said:

Honestly, the 2018/20 sets are best for their exteriors and the 2021/22’s are better for interiors. 
The old ones have crazy small interiors in some cases (think Astronomy Tower!) and the new ones look nothing like the movie version or even book descriptions (again, see Astronomy Tower 🤯)

Major props to anyone who has combined these.😵‍💫

So here is my version of the two styles blended together. The exterior design of 2019 and the interior space of 2022. It makes it wider and deeper so I've added extra windows.  I've kept some of the new features from the 2022 set that I think work well like the modular nature, the open side arch pieces to keep it accessible and the removable long brick to help with access for play. 

[Hiker13]

2 hours ago, Micmac said:

So here is my version of the two styles blended together. The exterior design of 2019 and the interior space of 2022. It makes it wider and deeper so I've added extra windows.  I've kept some of the new features from the 2022 set that I think work well like the modular nature, the open side arch pieces to keep it accessible and the removable long brick to help with access for play. 

This set is perfect to rebuild in this fashion. Now put a little courtyard in front!👍👍👍

[PotDoc]

So apparently HP was one of the top 5 best selling themes of 2021 🥳

[TurinTheGreat]

So HP is evergreen after all. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 minute ago, TurinTheGreat said:

So HP is evergreen after all. 

We're in the 5th year of reboteed LEGO Harry Potter, it's pretty obvious now 

This theme is not going anywhere. 

[Retro Brick Reviews]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

This theme is not going anywhere. 

And, considering that in Year 5 we aren't getting a single straight remake, it's going to be a while before the theme gets stale.

[Lion King]

3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

We're in the 5th year of reboteed LEGO Harry Potter, it's pretty obvious now 

This theme is not going anywhere. 

For now, yeah.  It is not anywhere. 

[living_off_lego]

On 3/6/2022 at 4:23 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

Indy not coming out this year has sawn a leg off of 2022‘s favourite-year-ever throne 

Now it‘s down to HP to save it. 2022 only gets my award if the MoM set is confirmed to be based on DH part 1 and if the D2C set is a DA expansion

that and if avatar gets a d2c (or if it even comes out in the first place)