Technic 2022 Set Discussion

[Jim]

1 minute ago, kbalage said:

It's strange though that we did not have any official confirmation yet about the brand at least. Both the Bugatti and the Lamborghini had teasers already in February. I know the toy fair did not happen this year, but still...

Yeah that’s weird indeed.

[SmartieZ]

1 hour ago, Jim said:

The crane is delayed. The supercar is coming.

I wonder whether we'll get a different flagship then. I don't remember there not being a flagship any year in the past.

[Jim]

2 minutes ago, SmartieZ said:

I wonder whether we'll get a different flagship then. I don't remember there not being a flagship any year in the past.

We probably will not get another flagship. It takes a lot of time to develop one. We might get two next year though.

[Ondra]

1 hour ago, Jim said:

The crane is delayed. The supercar is coming.

Supercar is good news for me. Thanks for info.

[Maaboo the Witch]

So the only proper 2H sets we're getting this year are the waste handler and Airbus chopper, then?

[thekoRngear]

On 4/16/2022 at 2:20 AM, Maaboo35 said:

So the only proper 2H sets we're getting this year are the waste handler and Airbus chopper, then?

It most probably seems so. Btw the 42142 is still not released yet. Is the 42127 the continuation/successor to the 42111 or is Lego committed to make FnF cars that started with the Dom's Charger? If it is the first case then the 42142 could be another potential proper Technic set. I think the 42142 will also release at some point this year.

Edited April 17, 2022 by thekoRngear

[KLF]

2 hours ago, thekoRngear said:

It most probably seems so. Btw the 42142 is still not released yet.  Is the 42127 is the continuation/successor to the 42111 or is Lego committed to make FnF cars that started with the Dom's Charger? If it is the first case then the 42142 could be another potential proper Technic set. I think the 42142 will also release at some point this year.

Maybe KITT with Super Pursuit Mode functions? ;)

[thekoRngear]

1 minute ago, KLF said:

Maybe KITT with Super Pursuit Mode functions? ;)

I am 100% open to embrace if that ever officially happens. Grohl recently made a KITT MOC outta the Dom's Charger. Looks and feels cool

[kbalage]

13 minutes ago, KLF said:

Maybe KITT with Super Pursuit Mode functions? ;)

Based on what we've seen so far movie cars with interesting functions are not released as a Technic set :D  

[KLF]

4 minutes ago, kbalage said:

Based on what we've seen so far movie cars with interesting functions are not released as a Technic set :D  

Except for above mentioned Dom's Charger. ;) 

[kbalage]

36 minutes ago, KLF said:

Except for above mentioned Dom's Charger. ;) 

Well, if we consider that built-in stand an interesting function then yes, it can be an exception. But if we compare it to the functions squeezed in ECTO-1 then I would still bet on a Creator Expert KITT :) 

[allanp]

Seems like we may have to consider the Supercar to be the flagship for this year. As much as I'd like to see the crane as it does sound promising, there's nothing wrong with the concept of a non-motorised and non-RC supercar being a flagship. The 8880 Daytona Supercar was just such a flagship yes? HOWEVER! When you compare the 8880 to the test car that came before it, and the full bodied test car to the bare chassis that came before that, you can see the huge leap forward each time, that's what made them flagships. So will the new Supercar be a similar leap from the Sian, or will it be another Sian in red?!

[howitzer]

13 minutes ago, allanp said:

Seems like we may have to consider the Supercar to be the flagship for this year. As much as I'd like to see the crane as it does sound promising, there's nothing wrong with the concept of a non-motorised and non-RC supercar being a flagship. The 8880 Daytona Supercar was just such a flagship yes? HOWEVER! When you compare the 8880 to the test car that came before it, and the full bodied test car to the bare chassis that came before that, you can see the huge leap forward each time, that's what made them flagships. So will the new Supercar be a similar leap from the Sian, or will it be another Sian in red?!

I bet it's just a Sian in red.

The 80's/90's supercars indeed had always significant technical improvements over the previous iterations, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the UCS supercars, the improvements are small and mostly about something working better instead of something new. I wouldn't mind a supercar with something truly new either, but if the crane was to be the flagship but had to be postponed, that means the upcoming supercar hasn't been designed with that in mind, and it's far too late to change the model significantly. So as for the proper Technic sets for the remainder of the year, it appears that we'll have to do with the helicopter and the waste handler.

[Jundis]

2 minutes ago, howitzer said:

I wouldn't mind a supercar with something truly new either

A really cool feature would be a supercar convertable like the Corvette C8:

Other than that, I'd think they just refine many functions.

[allanp]

Refinements of existing functions of a supercar is mostly all we can ask for as most functions have been done already, but that's okay as the existing functions have lots of room for improvement. The only ways around this is to either have it be RC (which usually means removing all the cool mechanisms though it really shouldn't have to) or go for something completely different, like a hot hatch with front wheel drive only, transverse front inline 4 engine, manual non-sequetial gearbox connected to a gated manual stick shift via realistic linkages and Bowden (flex?) cables and new McPherson strut front suspension. This is the most common type of car on the road and I'd love to see it done properly in Technic. 

As for the helicopter and material handler being the only Technic sets for the second half, honestly these two both sound like great sets and I'm very excited for both. If they are as good as the rumours say they are, I won't be complaining if that's all we get. The 2000+ piece helicopter with all new proper cyclic/collective controls and a motor could be a flagship even if it's smaller than what were used to in recent years. It wasn't that long ago that it would have been considered a fairly sizeable flagship. I expect it'll be roughly the same size and complexity as the 8480 space shuttle, with a similar feeling of variety and novelty to it's mechanisms. I am still looking forward to the rather cool sounding crane, it's the first control+ flagship I've looked forward to in 3 years. But on the other hand having a non-RC, non-control+ non "too expensive for the mechanical novelty that you get" flagship isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Edited April 16, 2022 by allanp

[thekoRngear]

On 4/16/2022 at 2:44 PM, Jundis said:

A really cool feature would be a supercar convertable like the Corvette C8:

Other than that, I'd think they just refine many functions.

I've been talking about this marvelous feature since towards the end of last year. That opening and closing mechanism is an eye pleaser and when I first saw it immediately Technic came to my mind 

BTW @allanp the 8070 had RCing of the functions and it was....I dunno....maybe one of the less exciting super cars from Lego. Yes, I am not against RCing a super car. It is just that a mechanical UCS car from its first official image/short vid on IG to its leaked box (which many people immediately dismissed as a hoax ) to disappointment in the different shades of green to eventual resorting to JB70 (and other cool fellas) to make it an actually usable one creates more warmth 

McPherson strut sounds definitely cool. But such function which is implemented first by the community and is hoped to be introduced by Lego with improvement is actually something will take some time for (mostly) all the right reasons I think. So, I will go with refining the many functions specially the paddle shifters of the gearbox etc.

Sigh this is 2022 and not a great set at the level of the 8110 Unimog (2011, PF functions) has yet to be released. IIRC the 2010's decade already had a great start by this time of that decade.

Edited April 17, 2022 by thekoRngear

[howitzer]

1 hour ago, allanp said:

Refinements of existing functions of a supercar is mostly all we can ask for as most functions have been done already, but that's okay as the existing functions have lots of room for improvement. The only ways around this is to either have it be RC (which usually means removing all the cool mechanisms though it really shouldn't have to) or go for something completely different, like a hot hatch with front wheel drive only, transverse front inline 4 engine, manual non-sequetial gearbox connected to a gated manual stick shift via realistic linkages and Bowden (flex?) cables and new McPherson strut front suspension. This is the most common type of car on the road and I'd love to see it done properly in Technic. 

As for the helicopter and material handler being the only Technic sets for the second half, honestly these two both sound like great sets and I'm very excited for both. If they are as good as the rumours say they are, I won't be complaining if that's all we get. The 2000+ piece helicopter with all new proper cyclic/collective controls and a motor could be a flagship even if it's smaller than what were used to in recent years. It wasn't that long ago that it would have been considered a fairly sizeable flagship. I expect it'll be roughly the same size and complexity as the 8480 space shuttle, with a similar feeling of variety and novelty to it's mechanisms. I am still looking forward to the rather cool sounding crane, it's the first control+ flagship I've looked forward to in 3 years. But on the other hand having a non-RC, non-control+ non "too expensive for the mechanical novelty that you get" flagship isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Yes, that's the kind of car set I'd consider buying, as the supercars are getting really repetitive.

I understand from the rumours that the helicopter would have collective pitch control and tilting rotor (like 8856) but no cyclic pitch control. So while it's probably still a pretty cool set, it's still falling somewhat short of the expectations. But yeah, for me the crane was also something to look forward, as I've skipped both 42100 and 42131.

[allanp]

8 hours ago, thekoRngear said:

 

BTW @allanp the 8070 had RCing of the functions and it was....I dunno....maybe one of the less exciting super cars from Lego. Yes, I am not against RCing a super car. It is just that a mechanical UCS car from its first official image/short vid on IG to its leaked box (which many people immediately called it hoax ) to disappointment in the different shades of green to eventual resorting to JB70 (and other cool fellas) to make it an actually usable one creates more warmth 

Mcpherson strut sounds definitely cool. But such function which is implemented first by the community and is expected to be introduced by Lego with improvement is actually something will take some time for (mostly) all the right reasons I think. So, I will go with refining the many functions specially the paddle shifters of the gearbox etc.

Sigh this is 2022 and not a great set at the level of the 8110 Unimog (2011, PF functions) has yet to be released. IIRC the 2010's decade already had a great start.

By making a car RC I meant remote controlled driving of the car. I agree that including a motor in a car....just to motorise the doors......felt a bit silly!

7 hours ago, howitzer said:

Yes, that's the kind of car set I'd consider buying, as the supercars are getting really repetitive.

I understand from the rumours that the helicopter would have collective pitch control and tilting rotor (like 8856) but no cyclic pitch control. So while it's probably still a pretty cool set, it's still falling somewhat short of the expectations. But yeah, for me the crane was also something to look forward, as I've skipped both 42100 and 42131.

Maybe I'm reading the rumours incorrectly, but I read them as in, it has proper cyclic and collective controls, and they will be introducing new parts to do this in a more realistic way. And the two speeds thing is an actual two speed gearbox. A slow speed so you can clearly see how the rotors tilt as they turn, and a fast speed so it can generate some wind. This gearbox may be an unrealistic addition however I don't mind it as it is a cool way to see the function working, and it is purely an addition. It's not like an LA where it is actually replacing a for more realistic alternative. This might have been on a promobricks podcast.

Edited April 16, 2022 by allanp

[howitzer]

2 hours ago, allanp said:

Maybe I'm reading the rumours incorrectly, but I read them as in, it has proper cyclic and collective controls, and they will be introducing new parts to do this in a more realistic way. And the two speeds thing is an actual two speed gearbox. A slow speed so you can clearly see how the rotors tilt as they turn, and a fast speed so it can generate some wind. This gearbox may be an unrealistic addition however I don't mind it as it is a cool way to see the function working, and it is purely an addition. It's not like an LA where it is actually replacing a for more realistic alternative. This might have been on a promobricks podcast.

I really hope you're right and both cyclic and collective controls will be included! And yeah, the gearbox sounds great even if it's unrealistic.

[abkdt41]

I just hope the Ferrari doesn't have any stickers

[Seasider]

6 hours ago, abkdt41 said:

I just hope the Ferrari doesn't have any stickers

It’ll have some stickers as the others (Porsche, Bugatti and Lambo) have them.

[OnyyX]

2 hours ago, Seasider said:

It’ll have some stickers as the others (Porsche, Bugatti and Lambo) have them.

I don't think it will, the Sian had 0 stickers, I reckon they will follow that

[Seasider]

7 hours ago, OnyyX said:

I don't think it will, the Sian had 0 stickers, I reckon they will follow that

Forgot that .. shows how use to stickers i am

[MarkyMark42]

On 4/16/2022 at 6:44 PM, Jundis said:

A really cool feature would be a supercar convertable like the Corvette C8:

Other than that, I'd think they just refine many functions.

I like the idea of the retractable roof but i'm guessing with the size of a lego engine in a mid-engine car might make that a bit difficult.

I hope they can prove me wrong however

[Cyborg_Samurai]

On 4/17/2022 at 1:30 AM, Seasider said:

It’ll have some stickers as the others (Porsche, Bugatti and Lambo) have them.

I love decals :D

Though as someone who gets sweaty hands, I use tools like a modeling knife and good lighting for accuracy 

And if you made a moc and are able to design your own decals using an inkjet printer, you can create some jaw dropping designs