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17 hours ago, Pedilego said:

Haha touché, I knew it was intended to be the 41st, but I never noticed they had any coloration. Strike my first point about that scene out, then, and chalk up it up as another way Shinies could be used as a generic stand-in, I guess. (Gray is a surprisingly common color for Clones [41st, Wolfpack, Kamino Security, Sergeant Hound]).

They're pretty hard to spot. There's an even subtler one in TCW, too, my favorite unit to trip people up with: the clone garrison on Orto Plutonia has markings that're just a slightly lighter white than the rest of their armor.

5 hours ago, Redroe said:

Well, I did say I was in the minority :laugh:. Interesting, I've not seen the analysis. Link me to it??

I assume they mean my post from 19 September here.

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I'm here looking gloomily at my third bad Mando helmet print and wondering what can be done about it.
You know the problem. The visor is too low, giving the fig a long forehead and squashed "face". It's too consistently wrong to just be a misprint. The quality is nice and sharp, it's just in totally the wrong place. Compare it with Fett and it looks even worse.
This problem didn't plague the first run of this figure from Trouble on Tatooine. Just the recent run.
Has anyone had a perfect Din Djarin helmet from the summer line-up?

Interestingly, just realised that the position matches Paz Visla's helmet print perfectly. Now Visla's helmet looks quite different in show, it's squatter and more angular. Can it be that they've done a deliberate new print for Visla and lazily copied it over for Mando? If so why? They've done a new print for Fett and got that pretty well spot on!

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2 hours ago, Redroe said:

I'm here looking gloomily at my third bad Mando helmet print and wondering what can be done about it.
You know the problem. The visor is too low, giving the fig a long forehead and squashed "face". It's too consistently wrong to just be a misprint. The quality is nice and sharp, it's just in totally the wrong place. Compare it with Fett and it looks even worse.
This problem didn't plague the first run of this figure from Trouble on Tatooine. Just the recent run.
Has anyone had a perfect Din Djarin helmet from the summer line-up?

Interestingly, just realised that the position matches Paz Visla's helmet print perfectly. Now Visla's helmet looks quite different in show, it's squatter and more angular. Can it be that they've done a deliberate new print for Visla and lazily copied it over for Mando? If so why? They've done a new print for Fett and got that pretty well spot on!

I’ve got 5x silver Mando helmet, 1 from each set it is in. 3 of them are as you say, but 2 are normal.

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2 hours ago, Redroe said:

I'm here looking gloomily at my third bad Mando helmet print and wondering what can be done about it.
You know the problem. The visor is too low, giving the fig a long forehead and squashed "face". It's too consistently wrong to just be a misprint. The quality is nice and sharp, it's just in totally the wrong place. Compare it with Fett and it looks even worse.
This problem didn't plague the first run of this figure from Trouble on Tatooine. Just the recent run.
Has anyone had a perfect Din Djarin helmet from the summer line-up?

Interestingly, just realised that the position matches Paz Visla's helmet print perfectly. Now Visla's helmet looks quite different in show, it's squatter and more angular. Can it be that they've done a deliberate new print for Visla and lazily copied it over for Mando? If so why? They've done a new print for Fett and got that pretty well spot on!

In my copies of the sets, only the Trouble on Tatooine set had the higher visor position. All my sets from the summer wave onwards, even the forge and advent calendar, had the lower position.

I ordered two replacement helmets from customer service and both of them had the old, higher visor position instead. I suspect TLG is aware of the helmet error and is fixing it as a running change. So in the meantime, our best bet for getting fixed helmets is getting them directly from Lego for now.

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9 hours ago, Redroe said:

Boys love Padme :laugh:

Boys love Padme’s midriff

3 hours ago, Redroe said:

Has anyone had a perfect Din Djarin helmet from the summer line-up?

The only one that was “misprinted” for me was the one from the forge. Trouble on Tattooine, Slave I, Light Cruiser all fine. Don’t have the calendar yet. 

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8 hours ago, Redroe said:

Boys love Padme :laugh:

I get that. I think 'most' is a bit of a generalisation but yes I see the demand for new stuff. My point was, 

I think looking at it in "waves" is misleading. They simply don't have enough sets in a single wave to keep everyone happy all the time especially as it does seem better to have a couple of related sets (X wing, Tie) released alongside each other. But if you look at the "year".... take 2021...

Three great OT remakes at affordable price point.

Kid friendly ST set.

Sought after Clone Wars characters in low to mid price sets.

A ton of Mando stuff.

Bad batch shuttle, brand new. 

Killer PT UCS ship.

Something for everyone right?

So maybe 2022 will keep that balance. Maybe even if winter is OT heavy, we'll get other stuff through the year. 

 

Let's think of it a different way

OT: 3 remakes + 3 new sets + 2 Helmets + 1 Statue (Movies from 40+ years ago) + UCS AT-AT+GWP

ST: 1 set (Movie is from 2015)

PT: 1 UCS Gunship (Movie from 20 years ago)

New Media (2020-2021)

CW-7: 2 sets (Show aired 2020) + Ahsoka Brickheadz

The Mandalorian: 5 sets (Show aired 2019-2021)

BB: 1 set

Visions: None

While you're right there seems to be something for everyone it still doesn't make sense that the non-OT/new media (BB, Mandalorian S2, CW-7, Visions, and PT/ST) have 11 sets while the OT which is popular but not new gets 11 sets too. The marvel example isn't the greatest but it does show that new stuff that's relevant to new shows/movies is possible so its fair to want that. 

Also I'm not asking for 11 PT sets or anything close to it cause TLG and the OT purists would never go for that, but maybe we get 5 OT, 2 PT, 1 ST and the rest of the sets (maybe like 14-15) are new stuff. 

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1 hour ago, kidtheboss611 said:

While you're right there seems to be something for everyone it still doesn't make sense that the non-OT/new media (BB, Mandalorian S2, CW-7, Visions, and PT/ST) have 11 sets while the OT which is popular but not new gets 11 sets too. The marvel example isn't the greatest but it does show that new stuff that's relevant to new shows/movies is possible so its fair to want that.  

Yes, because OT sets tend to sell better.

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2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yes, because OT sets tend to sell better.

Compared to ST and PT then maybe but since we get so few of PT it's hard to actually get accurate numbers on that. However, compared to CW and Mando I don't think so. Until recently the Slave 1 and Mandalorian Fighter were sold out on shop at home and for its first few months, the Razorcrest and 501st BP were virtually extinct in stores and online. Sets from the new shows with desirable figures will sell like hotcakes compared to another AT-ST, even if it's a hoth version.

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1 hour ago, kidtheboss611 said:

Sets from the new shows with desirable figures will sell like hotcakes compared to another AT-ST, even if it's a hoth version.

Gotta agree there as a "Hoth version" just means using white instead of green ink to print the box. However as it sounds like the ATST is going to be 18+ market, probably not a fair comparison. I deliberately left out the helmets, etc. as (ironically as a OT fan.... not a purist though!) I have no interest in them, I think they appeal to again, a largely different market sector who aren't buying OT sets either. We never would have got a Visions set this early, too much risk. We may well get one in next year's line up. 

Don't get me wrong here, I don't believe Star Wars ended in 1983. I just think that at the moment TLG's assortment is striking the right note between the consumers and commercial safety.

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34 minutes ago, Redroe said:

Gotta agree there as a "Hoth version" just means using white instead of green ink to print the box. However as it sounds like the ATST is going to be 18+ market, probably not a fair comparison.

ATST has been confirmed as a non 18+ set, the issue was corrected by Promonricks who had the original description wrong, the price is also lower. It has also been confirmed it will be the Hoth version of the ATST, which has some significant differences compared to the more prominent ROTJ version, which are taller legs and a slopes cockpit 

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9 hours ago, Archer said:

I’ve got 5x silver Mando helmet, 1 from each set it is in. 3 of them are as you say, but 2 are normal.

 

8 hours ago, Canticleer blues said:

In my copies of the sets, only the Trouble on Tatooine set had the higher visor position. All my sets from the summer wave onwards, even the forge and advent calendar, had the lower position.

I ordered two replacement helmets from customer service and both of them had the old, higher visor position instead. I suspect TLG is aware of the helmet error and is fixing it as a running change. So in the meantime, our best bet for getting fixed helmets is getting them directly from Lego for now.

 

7 hours ago, Brikkyy13 said:

The only one that was “misprinted” for me was the one from the forge. Trouble on Tattooine, Slave I, Light Cruiser all fine. Don’t have the calendar yet. 

Thanks all. Seems like it's well over half the prints have the issue based on that sample. I'd thought about going to customer service but, apart from one wildly egregious misprint a few years ago I'd not used the service before and didn't know how it would go. 

I'll give it a shot.

I could just ignore the problem of course, there are bigger problems in the world after all :laugh: but I'd be annoyed every time I looked at one on display. The squashed ones can be the ones I leave out to get mauled by my nephews.

44 minutes ago, Stuartn said:

ATST has been confirmed as a non 18+ set, the issue was corrected by Promonricks who had the original description wrong, the price is also lower. It has also been confirmed it will be the Hoth version of the ATST, which has some significant differences compared to the more prominent ROTJ version, which are taller legs and a slopes cockpit 

Ok. In that case I think the criticisms are legit. I'm not a fan of how Lego reproduces small changes to things that even the filmmakers didn't intend, like the difference between "hero" and "background" stormtrooper helmets. I prefer consistency!

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What exactly is EB thinking about the rumors for set bundles? Are those ever worth more than just getting the sets individually?

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33 minutes ago, Brickroll said:

What exactly is EB thinking about the rumors for set bundles? Are those ever worth more than just getting the sets individually?

It's literally just sets packaged together for the same price as the three sold separately. Sometimes they can be rare on the aftermarket for the packaging, but in terms of the sets themselves, it's the exact same value.

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1 hour ago, Brickroll said:

What exactly is EB thinking about the rumors for set bundles? Are those ever worth more than just getting the sets individually?

What’s the rumour?

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If it's anything like previous set bundles, they won't be very common anyway.  At least here in the US, I think I've maybe seen those like three times at most.  I think Costco/Sam's Club occasionally will get them in the winter time around the holidays, I think Toys R Us used to stock some of them, and then infrequently they'll be at smaller toy stores, but that's really it.

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1 hour ago, Brikkyy13 said:

What’s the rumour?

That's pretty much it, there's going to be a set bundle for star wars. The "Skywalker Adventures" set or whatever will most likely just be three sets thrown into a larger box that just says "3 in 1". The only exclusive thing is the outer packaging.

33 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

If it's anything like previous set bundles, they won't be very common anyway.  At least here in the US, I think I've maybe seen those like three times at most.  I think Costco/Sam's Club occasionally will get them in the winter time around the holidays, I think Toys R Us used to stock some of them, and then infrequently they'll be at smaller toy stores, but that's really it.

 Costco normally has a good amount. (By the way: AMAZING place to get sets. Aside from these, they've always got sales, and sometimes you can find some long retired sets. I've found 3 year old sets marked at 3/4 the price. They even used to have bulk bionicle lots with exclusive parts.)

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3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That's pretty much it, there's going to be a set bundle for star wars. The "Skywalker Adventures" set or whatever will most likely just be three sets thrown into a larger box that just says "3 in 1". The only exclusive thing is the outer packaging.

 Costco normally has a good amount. (By the way: AMAZING place to get sets. Aside from these, they've always got sales, and sometimes you can find some long retired sets. I've found 3 year old sets marked at 3/4 the price. They even used to have bulk bionicle lots with exclusive parts.)

I've never seen 3 year old retired sets. What did you find? 

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47 minutes ago, Prometheus87 said:

I've never seen 3 year old retired sets. What did you find? 

I want to say it was 2011 harry potter sets in 2014 and 2012 hero factory sets in 2015. I didn't actually purchase any of them, but yeah, they've got em.

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The 'not releasing in every country' part of this rumour makes more sense if it's just repackaged existing sets, possibly some regions have excess stock and this is a way to move them.

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9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That's pretty much it, there's going to be a set bundle for star wars. The "Skywalker Adventures" set or whatever will most likely just be three sets thrown into a larger box that just says "3 in 1". The only exclusive thing is the outer packaging.

Oh, that. Don’t think I’ve ever seen those turn up in Australia. It’s only gonna have 630 pieces or something right?… could probably work out what sets it’ll have with that info.

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Crunching some numbers - the rumour gave the piece count for this unknown 3 in 1 set as 644 pieces, which is the exact part count for Luke's Landspeeder, Obi-Wan's Hut and Duel on Mustafar, all of which contain a Skywalker. All three sets would be approaching the end of their product cycle, so a good time to bundle them as a 3 in 1 package (and Obi-Wan's hut is already retired in Aus, so no chance this bundle shows up here).

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4 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Crunching some numbers - the rumour gave the piece count for this unknown 3 in 1 set as 644 pieces, which is the exact part count for Luke's Landspeeder, Obi-Wan's Hut and Duel on Mustafar, all of which contain a Skywalker. All three sets would be approaching the end of their product cycle, so a good time to bundle them as a 3 in 1 package (and Obi-Wan's hut is already retired in Aus, so no chance this bundle shows up here).

I was thinking it would be Luke's Landspeeder, and Obi-Wan's Hut but the Duel on Mustafar is also a solid extra. 

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14 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

Crunching some numbers - the rumour gave the piece count for this unknown 3 in 1 set as 644 pieces, which is the exact part count for Luke's Landspeeder, Obi-Wan's Hut and Duel on Mustafar, all of which contain a Skywalker. All three sets would be approaching the end of their product cycle, so a good time to bundle them as a 3 in 1 package (and Obi-Wan's hut is already retired in Aus, so no chance this bundle shows up here).

Apparently this is it. Kind of funny, the "obi-wan gets ptsd" super pack.

 

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