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35 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

You do realise they can‘t publicly lie about the contents of a contract, right? This is conspiracy theory nonsense :tongue:

What law are you trying to cite there? It's illegal to fraudulently misrepresent the contents of a contract in an attempt to convince someone to sign it, but anybody can say anything they like about it to the general public, at least in the US. You're correct that the idea that they're intentionally lying to excuse not making a CMF series is completely nonsense, of course, but it's nonsense because it doesn't make any sense for them to do it, not because it would be illegal for them to.

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5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

 

The May the Fourth minifig polybags were exempt from this rule because they were promotional items, in case you‘re wondering. Same principle applies to books and other gear

Lego has directly sold star wars minifigure only poly bags for money  at retailers and have themselves sold the obi-wan 20th anniversary polybag on their own website. Hasbro is not some unsophisticated corporation that would be ignorant of these actions. They are a major competitor in toys and would have sued to stop it immediately. Let's not even get into the fact that you build both minifigures and buildable figures  yet it's the buildable figures that are more similar in size and usability of a actual Hasbro action figures.

if all it took was to add 5 small pieces for a stand than the usual one piece  stand for the obiwan polybag to be extra safe with the license we would have seen a star wars minifigure series by now. But we don't because they make more money putting a pitiful number of desirable figures in sets and they know it.

No one is forcing them to make the currently cheapest way to get darth vader in a $70 set. No one is forcing them to put moff gideon, fennec shand and one dark trooper in one $160 set that contains only 5 minifigures. No one is forcing them to sell only 4 clones in a $30 set. No one is  forcing them to include only 4 figures in battlepacks and raise prices far faster than inflation. This is all on them and it comes down to money

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17 minutes ago, Kdapt-Preacher said:

What law are you trying to cite there? 

I'm not looking at it from a legal perspective. Lemme put it this way: would you publicly, with your real name, lie about a contract the major company you're working for has made with another, even bigger corporation? Save way to keep one's job long-term, isn't it :tongue:

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3 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Well, it turns out Boba Fett's Palace is the 100€ set (75326).

I'm more and more excited about this set. 

11 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I'm not looking at it from a legal perspective. Lemme put it this way: would you publicly, with your real name, lie about a contract the major company you're working for has made with another, even bigger corporation? Save way to keep one's job long-term, isn't it :tongue:

There are NDA's that are signed that prevent people from stating anything publically. In my line of work, I'm not even in accounts/contracts, but I have to sign them due to the fact I see sensitive company data. Could be the case here, conceivably. 

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26 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I'm not looking at it from a legal perspective. Lemme put it this way: would you publicly, with your real name, lie about a contract the major company you're working for has made with another, even bigger corporation? Save way to keep one's job long-term, isn't it :tongue:

The other guy is suggesting that it's a corporate-directed intentional PR move, not a rogue employee, so the idea that the individual spokesperson would get in trouble for it doesn't hold up. Again, you're right that that's not a realistic scenario, but they could do it. They aren't, but they could.

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6 minutes ago, Kdapt-Preacher said:

The other guy is suggesting that it's a corporate-directed intentional PR move, not a rogue employee, so the idea that the individual spokesperson would get in trouble for it doesn't hold up. Again, you're right that that's not a realistic scenario, but they could do it. They aren't, but they could.

This doesn't hold water either. If TLG sanctioned this, Disney would have to be in on it too, and Hasbro as well, since this concerns their exclusivity contract :tongue: As I've said before, this is on the same level as a conspiracy theory

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22 hours ago, kidtheboss611 said:

I think I understand what you're saying but then why was Lego able to sell the Obi-Wan figure from 2019 last year. I'm not saying Lego is lying but they never actually said they couldn't make CMF's but people just theorized. 

IMO lego probably could always release CMF's but didn't see the point in selling a product for $5 that they could sell in a $30-$160 set and also no point in fighting with Hasbro. They have every right to sell whatever they want but the action figure theory just seems a little convoluted. 

The Obi-wan had a stand, and I believe it was around the time this supposed contract renegotiation took place anyway. 

"The action figure theory is convoluted" It's something lego actually stated.... 

6 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

This doesn't hold water either. If TLG sanctioned this, Disney would have to be in on it too, and Hasbro as well, since this concerns their exclusivity contract :tongue: As I've said before, this is on the same level as a conspiracy theory

This is offensive to conspiracy theories. :laugh: (But actually, conspiracy theory is a blanket term.  it can be "lizard people control the government", but it can also be something real. Example: the USSR's genocides a few decades ago were once derided as conspiracy theories). This has literally no basis in anything. No motive on the spokeman's part, or the company's part, and potentially huge downsides for doing it, if true. If it was a lie, hasbro immediately would have said so (they wouldn't want fans of SW merch thinking it was their fault, because that could impact sales).

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This topic has been hashed and rehashed eleventy billion times on this forum and it never comes any closer to a conclusion. Fact is that no one on EB knows what the terms of any of these contracts are, rendering any discussion of it conjecture.

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7 hours ago, McMurder_them_softly said:

This is great! I only wonder how other action figure companies (such as Hot Toys) play into this as they can create those as licensed figures alongside Hasbro. Maybe scale of the figures too? 

Either way, I hope something has changed and our CMF is one of the 4 for 2022!

After doing a decent amount of research, instead of my day job, I think I have some answers on the various licenses that are out there for the Star Wars franchise and most likely for Marvel as well.

Hasbro has the license to make playsets and action figures up to 12" in height (i.e. 1/6 scale).  Hot Toys and Sideshow have the license to make their figures through a sublicense from Hasbro for their 1/6 figures (starting in 2004).  The 1/4 scale figures are direct licensed from Disney/Lucasfilm as best I can tell.  This is based on the agreement that Hasbro and Disney signed in 2013 right after the purchase of Lucasfilm.  It seems that in the 2020 agreement, Hasbro only got the exclusivity for figures from 2" to 12".  This leaves the door open for Lego to release figure only sets, and they have done that for Marvel already.  

I don't buy any argument that says Lego isn't releasing figure only sets, because they hate the fans, and want us all to buy really expensive sets to get specific figures.  From a business perspective this doesn't make sense.  The profit margin on a small minifigure sold for $4.99 is way higher than the profit margin on a larger set.  A minifigure costs probably at most $1.50 for Lego to make.  Giving a 333% markup for a CMF.  For lets say the light cruiser, which costs $159 comes with 5 minifigures (plus grogu) and 1336 pieces plus an instruction book, stickers, and cardboard packaging, the breakdown is as follows.  5 minifigures at $1.50 each, for a total of $7.50, take away 30 pieces for the minfigures leaves us with 1306 pieces, which i will round down to 1300 pieces.  I will assume that on average a average Lego part costs $0.04 to make (smaller ones are less bigger ones are much more), the total cost of the parts in this set is $52.  For the packaging and printing I am going to allocate $1.50 for.  Putting this all together and the set costs about $61.00 for Lego to produce.  Which results in a 260% markup on the set as a whole.  While there may be more gross profit from the set vs the CMF, the economies of scale will make the CMF a bigger profit source than a set.  You are going to sell way more CMF's than sets.  For example. assuming a set of 12 CMF's (and assuming no duplicate buys) costs Lego $18.00 to make and returns to the supply chain almost $60 and generates a profit of $42 over the cost to make.  A complete box of 36 CMF's costs $54 and returns to the supply chain $179 generates a profit of $125 over the cost to make. and if it were 31 figures (the closest to the cost of the cruiser without going over) would cost $ 46.50 to make and return $154.69 to the supply chain and generate a profit of $108.19.  in contrast the cruiser costs $61.00 to make returns $159 to the supply chain and generates $98 in profit of the cost to make.  So it nets less profit over the minifigure and also will have much lower sales volumes.  So from a business perspective if Lego could sell a CMF series (and they know it would sell like hotcakes) for the Star Wars line, they would.   

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17 minutes ago, MSY-MSP said:

After doing a decent amount of research, instead of my day job, I think I have some answers on the various licenses that are out there for the Star Wars franchise and most likely for Marvel as well.

Hasbro has the license to make playsets and action figures up to 12" in height (i.e. 1/6 scale).  Hot Toys and Sideshow have the license to make their figures through a sublicense from Hasbro for their 1/6 figures (starting in 2004).  The 1/4 scale figures are direct licensed from Disney/Lucasfilm as best I can tell.  This is based on the agreement that Hasbro and Disney signed in 2013 right after the purchase of Lucasfilm.  It seems that in the 2020 agreement, Hasbro only got the exclusivity for figures from 2" to 12".  This leaves the door open for Lego to release figure only sets, and they have done that for Marvel already.  

I don't buy any argument that says Lego isn't releasing figure only sets, because they hate the fans, and want us all to buy really expensive sets to get specific figures.  From a business perspective this doesn't make sense.  The profit margin on a small minifigure sold for $4.99 is way higher than the profit margin on a larger set.  A minifigure costs probably at most $1.50 for Lego to make.  Giving a 333% markup for a CMF.  For lets say the light cruiser, which costs $159 comes with 5 minifigures (plus grogu) and 1336 pieces plus an instruction book, stickers, and cardboard packaging, the breakdown is as follows.  5 minifigures at $1.50 each, for a total of $7.50, take away 30 pieces for the minfigures leaves us with 1306 pieces, which i will round down to 1300 pieces.  I will assume that on average a average Lego part costs $0.04 to make (smaller ones are less bigger ones are much more), the total cost of the parts in this set is $52.  For the packaging and printing I am going to allocate $1.50 for.  Putting this all together and the set costs about $61.00 for Lego to produce.  Which results in a 260% markup on the set as a whole.  While there may be more gross profit from the set vs the CMF, the economies of scale will make the CMF a bigger profit source than a set.  You are going to sell way more CMF's than sets.  For example. assuming a set of 12 CMF's (and assuming no duplicate buys) costs Lego $18.00 to make and returns to the supply chain almost $60 and generates a profit of $42 over the cost to make.  A complete box of 36 CMF's costs $54 and returns to the supply chain $179 generates a profit of $125 over the cost to make. and if it were 31 figures (the closest to the cost of the cruiser without going over) would cost $ 46.50 to make and return $154.69 to the supply chain and generate a profit of $108.19.  in contrast the cruiser costs $61.00 to make returns $159 to the supply chain and generates $98 in profit of the cost to make.  So it nets less profit over the minifigure and also will have much lower sales volumes.  So from a business perspective if Lego could sell a CMF series (and they know it would sell like hotcakes) for the Star Wars line, they would.   

Woah. That's... amazing. That math is... well, let's just say I've never seen anything like this about LEGO.

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6 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Well, it turns out Boba Fett's Palace is the 100€ set (75326).

But what if it's really just a new version of Slave I, which Disney has now decided to retitle Boba Fett's Palace? :sarcasm_smug:

Dang, I don't know why, but I felt like LEGO would do a smaller set to tie in with the show, and in which we could get Boba and Fennec more cheaply. The Palace could be cool and worth it no doubt, but I was hoping for something at the 30$/€ price range.

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On 9/23/2021 at 12:53 AM, BacktoBricks said:

From what I've heard, there had to be a build element to their product if they were going to sell it. Hence why 20th anniversary Obi-Wan poly could be sold because it had a buildable stand, but other individual figure polybags have been GWPs.

At that point they should just sell figures people want with buildable stands or a smaller build as example jedi masters and their seats, even army building stuff like clones for 4$-5$. 

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7 hours ago, benderisgreat said:

Honestly I wouldn't take Lego designer at their word. Corporate code and yada-yada. Considering the way they treated fans lately I would expect them to lie on this topic just cause. Let's face it minifigures sell sets, if they released SW CMF they would potentially lose on set sales. If if that's not the reason, they just don't want to sell us Sw Cmf.

Contrary to what the gunship haters believe the designers don’t have anything against fans and they’re not actively out to mistreat any of us. It’s not the designer’s fault that some people are blowing their comments completely out of proportion. They have no reason to lie to us, they know how much we want minifigures we’ve been asking for a CMF for like a decade now. If they could do it they would’ve done it by now.

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1 hour ago, MSY-MSP said:

After doing a decent amount of research, instead of my day job, I think I have some answers on the various licenses that are out there for the Star Wars franchise and most likely for Marvel as well.

 Hasbro has the license to make playsets and action figures up to 12" in height (i.e. 1/6 scale).  Hot Toys and Sideshow have the license to make their figures through a sublicense from Hasbro for their 1/6 figures (starting in 2004).  The 1/4 scale figures are direct licensed from Disney/Lucasfilm as best I can tell.  This is based on the agreement that Hasbro and Disney signed in 2013 right after the purchase of Lucasfilm.  It seems that in the 2020 agreement, Hasbro only got the exclusivity for figures from 2" to 12".  This leaves the door open for Lego to release figure only sets, and they have done that for Marvel already.  

 I don't buy any argument that says Lego isn't releasing figure only sets, because they hate the fans, and want us all to buy really expensive sets to get specific figures.  From a business perspective this doesn't make sense.  The profit margin on a small minifigure sold for $4.99 is way higher than the profit margin on a larger set.  A minifigure costs probably at most $1.50 for Lego to make.  Giving a 333% markup for a CMF.  For lets say the light cruiser, which costs $159 comes with 5 minifigures (plus grogu) and 1336 pieces plus an instruction book, stickers, and cardboard packaging, the breakdown is as follows.  5 minifigures at $1.50 each, for a total of $7.50, take away 30 pieces for the minfigures leaves us with 1306 pieces, which i will round down to 1300 pieces.  I will assume that on average a average Lego part costs $0.04 to make (smaller ones are less bigger ones are much more), the total cost of the parts in this set is $52.  For the packaging and printing I am going to allocate $1.50 for.  Putting this all together and the set costs about $61.00 for Lego to produce.  Which results in a 260% markup on the set as a whole.  While there may be more gross profit from the set vs the CMF, the economies of scale will make the CMF a bigger profit source than a set.  You are going to sell way more CMF's than sets.  For example. assuming a set of 12 CMF's (and assuming no duplicate buys) costs Lego $18.00 to make and returns to the supply chain almost $60 and generates a profit of $42 over the cost to make.  A complete box of 36 CMF's costs $54 and returns to the supply chain $179 generates a profit of $125 over the cost to make. and if it were 31 figures (the closest to the cost of the cruiser without going over) would cost $ 46.50 to make and return $154.69 to the supply chain and generate a profit of $108.19.  in contrast the cruiser costs $61.00 to make returns $159 to the supply chain and generates $98 in profit of the cost to make.  So it nets less profit over the minifigure and also will have much lower sales volumes.  So from a business perspective if Lego could sell a CMF series (and they know it would sell like hotcakes) for the Star Wars line, they would.   

This is great work and all your math checks out but you have taken the most expensive set at 159.99 and compared it to a potential CMF at 4.99, however, your argument makes so much sense I thought I'd pose a question. 


Let's apply the same logic to the Obi-Wan figure from last year that was sold individually. According to the math and the contract, Lego can sell the fig (which they did) and make a sh*t ton of money on it cause it has an excellent profit margin (Less than 15 pieces sold at 5 dollars per bag). So from a business perspective why would we have not already seen a Lego SW polybag minifig line unless Lego didn't want to make the figs available this way. Remember the argument that its breach of contract is mute since it has the extra 5-6 pieces that make it a building toy and the argument that it wouldn't sell well is also gone cause @MSY-MSP proved you wouldn't need as many sales to make absurd amounts of profit.

I don't think it's a long con or theory that Lego can make CMFs but won't cause they hate fans but according to the math and what constitutes a building toy (a brick-built stand), they should have already had one. :grin:

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To be honest, a Star Wars CMF series wouldn’t really interest me. We already get tons of sets and the figures sell quite a few of them anyway. Whether they can make one or not, I’m okay without one.

I feel like this debate over whether or not they can make one pops up a lot and it always ends up at the same “who knows?” conclusion.

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1 hour ago, PreVizsla said:

At that point they should just sell figures people want with buildable stands or a smaller build as example jedi masters and their seats, even army building stuff like clones for 4$-5$

Sort of hope this is what the Accessory Packs will be. 2 anticipated figures and 2 remakes of stuff for army building. Possibilities are endless with various "subthemes". 

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2 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

But what if it's really just a new version of Slave I, which Disney has now decided to retitle Boba Fett's Palace? :sarcasm_smug:

Dang, I don't know why, but I felt like LEGO would do a smaller set to tie in with the show, and in which we could get Boba and Fennec more cheaply. The Palace could be cool and worth it no doubt, but I was hoping for something at the 30$/€ price range.

I agree with this. Was hoping to pick up a new Fett. Don't want to pay $60 for a slave I when I have the UCS, and don't want to spend $100 on a palace I don't want! lol. I was also hoping for a small $30 range set to grab Fett!

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Some input on a few things, in theory I'd love a Star Wars CMF as much as the next person, but it is definitely not the distribution method you would want for any massable troopers. Normal CMF series are short lived and sometimes certain figures can be hard to find, but aside from maybe the early days of CMF with the Spartan we have never seen any CMF wave try to handle the demand that many unique troopers would have. Unique varients of named characters would be on par with Marvel, DC, and HP lines, but troopers would just be a nightmare trying to obtain in person (I believe). Remember the first few months of the 501st pack? What if those months were its whole release window and it was 25$ cheaper?

Blister packs and Battle packs are the best move for troopers. I'd love a CMF that is only named characters or alien races, but they'd never do it without troopers, so catch 22.

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2 hours ago, Prometheus87 said:

Sort of hope this is what the Accessory Packs will be. 2 anticipated figures and 2 remakes of stuff for army building. Possibilities are endless with various "subthemes". 

Accessory packs have so much potential, but if it ends up like marvel 40418 with 2 main characters and 2 army builders it's basically Ki-Adi Mundi battlepack all over which would make them a worst and most expensive way to army build, but it can also be something really cool. I am just not going to put my hopes up with anything LEGO does anymore. 

Quick army building calculation. Squad= 9 troopers led by sergeant, Platoon= 4 squads led by lieutenant (36 troopers+ 4 sergeants+lieutenant) 
15$ accessory pack with 2 army building figures= will cost you 270$ to form a platoon + you need 4 sergeants+lieutenant ( you get around 540 pieces and 18 other figures)
20$ snowtrooper BP= will cost you 180$ to form a platoon with 3 snowtrooper squads and 1 scout trooper squad +you need 4 sergeants+lieutenant (you get around 945 pieces, possibly accurate snowspeeders and e-web blasters)
30$ 501st set which is not a BP= will cost you 270$ to form a platoon with 3x 501st squads and 1 jet trooper squad +you need 4 sergeants+lieutenant (you get 18 battle droids and 2565 pieces)
5$ army building figure with a buildable stand= will cost you 180$ to form a perfect 4 squad platoon that is one type +you need 4 sergeants+lieutenant (you get 432 pieces)

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4 hours ago, kidtheboss611 said:

Let's apply the same logic to the Obi-Wan figure from last year that was sold individually. According to the math and the contract, Lego can sell the fig (which they did) and make a sh*t ton of money on it cause it has an excellent profit margin (Less than 15 pieces sold at 5 dollars per bag). So from a business perspective why would we have not already seen a Lego SW polybag minifig line unless Lego didn't want to make the figs available this way. Remember the argument that its breach of contract is mute since it has the extra 5-6 pieces that make it a building toy and the argument that it wouldn't sell well is also gone cause @MSY-MSP proved you wouldn't need as many sales to make absurd amounts of profit.

I don't think it's a long con or theory that Lego can make CMFs but won't cause they hate fans but according to the math and what constitutes a building toy (a brick-built stand), they should have already had one. :grin:

I do have one idea as to why they haven't done this already, that being that are worried it would devalue their brand. While CMFs can clearly make way more money than a regular set, Lego may worry that putting out too many of them (especially for preexisting series) might result in people only buying the CMFs, effectively eliminating Lego's unique niche in the toy market. While they could make more money doing that, in the long run it might not be a good idea. Additionally, it could have to do with Lego being a privately owned company. I'm not sure how involved the family is in running it but they do still own Lego so there could be some sentimental reasons for not going too far from making building kits. 

I should emphasize that this is all speculation. There very well could be another reason why they haven't done more CMFs, like being worried about over-saturation. While I don't think this is the case, it is also possible that there is some other factor that keeps the profit margins on CMFs way lower than regular sets. In any case, it does seem like it would make sense for Lego to do more CMF series, but for now it seems like they want to keep it fairly minimal.

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13 hours ago, benderisgreat said:

Honestly I wouldn't take Lego designer at their word. Corporate code and yada-yada. Considering the way they treated fans lately I would expect them to lie on this topic just cause. Let's face it minifigures sell sets, if they released SW CMF they would potentially lose on set sales. If if that's not the reason, they just don't want to sell us Sw Cmf.

They already did 2 waves of HP minifigures, DC, now Marvel....and I don't think that it had an impact on HP, DC, Marvel sets sales. It always depends on the minifigure list choice. They could easily prevent product cannibalization by choosing different characters (or variants) for CMF and sets from the actual wave/s.

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7 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

But what if it's really just a new version of Slave I, which Disney has now decided to retitle Boba Fett's Palace? :sarcasm_smug:

Dang, I don't know why, but I felt like LEGO would do a smaller set to tie in with the show, and in which we could get Boba and Fennec more cheaply. The Palace could be cool and worth it no doubt, but I was hoping for something at the 30$/€ price range.

Yeah, same.

It kinda sucks that the only set for a new series that we're excited for is a 100€ palace... not very one wants to buy a huge playset just to get a representation of this series.

I hope they make more sets based on this series down the line.

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3 hours ago, Archer said:

Some input on a few things, in theory I'd love a Star Wars CMF as much as the next person, but it is definitely not the distribution method you would want for any massable troopers. Normal CMF series are short lived and sometimes certain figures can be hard to find, but aside from maybe the early days of CMF with the Spartan we have never seen any CMF wave try to handle the demand that many unique troopers would have. Unique varients of named characters would be on par with Marvel, DC, and HP lines, but troopers would just be a nightmare trying to obtain in person (I believe). Remember the first few months of the 501st pack? What if those months were its whole release window and it was 25$ cheaper?

Blister packs and Battle packs are the best move for troopers. I'd love a CMF that is only named characters or alien races, but they'd never do it without troopers, so catch 22.

I dont think any rational person is asking for a SW cmf for army building. CMFs are readily available for 3-4 months before supply starts drying up and the next one is released. The most I would want in a CMF would be only one  unique clone or other army figure. The rest would be unique characters or characters in different outfits that we haven't had before e.g. wat tambor, padme, aunt beru, etc

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3 hours ago, Archer said:

Some input on a few things, in theory I'd love a Star Wars CMF as much as the next person, but it is definitely not the distribution method you would want for any massable troopers. Normal CMF series are short lived and sometimes certain figures can be hard to find, but aside from maybe the early days of CMF with the Spartan we have never seen any CMF wave try to handle the demand that many unique troopers would have. Unique varients of named characters would be on par with Marvel, DC, and HP lines, but troopers would just be a nightmare trying to obtain in person (I believe). Remember the first few months of the 501st pack? What if those months were its whole release window and it was 25$ cheaper?

Blister packs and Battle packs are the best move for troopers. I'd love a CMF that is only named characters or alien races, but they'd never do it without troopers, so catch 22.

Definitely agree a CMF series isn't the place for army building. Unfortunately blister packs aren't an ideal distribution method either due to them being Lego store exclusives. Either you wind up with another 501st Battle Pack situation where they're constantly sold out (usually by scalpers looking to resell them at triple the price) or Lego limits how many copies people can buy which defeats the purpose of army building.

Regular battle packs available at all retailers is really the only method for army building that's fair on everybody.

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Do you guys think the remaining unknown sets will have hoth rebel troopers? Or maybe they'll show up in the minifigure packs. Are we gearing up for another snowspeeder? 

Before any leaks I had (admittedly unrealistic) expectations for this wave that we'd at least get more sets from the newer shows. Every episode of The Bad Batch I thought to myself: "Ah man, that'd be such a cool set", maybe the battle packs for the winter wave will be plain P2 clones. Surely we'll get a bunch of stuff from tBoBF and The Mandalorian. They waited a year and a half to do a Maul vs Ahsoka set, maybe they'll go back and do more season 7 sets and we'll get new supercammandos. It's the 20th anniversary of AotC maybe they'll do something for that, new bounty hunter chase? Hailfire droid? Anything from Geonosis? They could literally boost the sales of a microfighter tenfold by putting in some sort of special class trooper like a death trooper or an incinerator trooper and fans would go crazy. 

Now I'm just hoping Lego actually gives some incentive to buy the new sets by giving customers the ability to get vehicles and troops from both factions of a major battle, and I don't know if even that'll turn out. 

And I know we're getting Boba's palace but in terms of battle packs, I don't think it's really set in for people just how crazy Lego's maneuvering is with this new snowtrooper battle pack and the accessory packs. They didn't put out a new battle pack for 2021, and then gave everyone relief that they would return, hiked the price to $20USD and only made one instead of two. Now we have these accessory packs that'll be the same price battle packs used to be with realistically only 3 figures and likely undesirable ones. 

This wave could've been even better than the summer wave and it's looking like another disappointment.

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