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16 hours ago, The Stud said:

I thought the rumor was that they were in the process of hiring one, not that they already had one employed. Could be wrong about that though.

I might be wrong but I thought they just hired someone, and they were just keeping them confidential.

14 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

As for the accessory set, it's just a lamer version of a Battle Pack - unless it doesn't include generic army builders, but some actual characters. In that case, it'll be a lovely addition.

There are a couple differences:
Usually it's a couple figs with no new prints or anything and then one exclusive figure, but the higher comparative budget could impact that.

The other difference is that usually the builds are multiple small bits (I'm thinking the FFH and new batman ones specifically), as opposed to one build like battle packs usually have.

14 hours ago, kidtheboss611 said:

I'd say CW and Mando haven't got as many sets as they should have considering the Winter stuff from this year was almost entirely OT. Endor deserves more sets but it's a nearly 40-year old movie and isn't as iconic as its predecessor so it won't get as many as it's neither as iconic nor new media.

I making a Landspeeder and not more prequels UCS sets. There are far more iconic vehicles with more screentime and far more relevancy like an ARC-170 or Venator. If the Gunship sales are the reason for no prequel sets until 2023 then shouldn't the same process be applied to OT UCS? NO, because one sets of sales shouldn't dictate whether 3 films worth of content get UCS treatment. 

1. Yeah, most winter stuff was OT, and most summer stuff was CW/Mando. You can't just exclude half the data set...

2. Yes, the same process has been applied to OT UCS for about 20 years....? In general, a company makes a product if it knows it's going to sell well. Lego would not continue making OT UCS if they weren't selling, just like they killed off SW constraction and action battles.

 

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50 minutes ago, Bobbtom said:

This is going to be beating a dead horse, but If the hoth AT-ST does have longer legs than the endor one, then i'm going to be surprised since people likely only remember that the AT-ST is a vehicle with two legs and a head. Plus, the endor at-st can double for the hoth one :classic:

This is star wars fans you're on about here. Theeeee most nit picky Eagle eyed detail sniper scrutinisers the world has ever seen :laugh:

For me, the Hoth one deserves to be different (because it is) and giving the endor one to us as a Hoth variant would be akin to calling a yellow Clone commander a pilot :snicker: (we know how well that went down :tongue:

 

18 minutes ago, PreVizsla said:

Really wish it was the endor one. I don't think anyone would complain, HOTH version was apparently only in the shot for few seconds. I might be wrong though i don't like ot.

True it was only a few blurry seconds. And, I may be mistaken, but, I think.... In the original non-remastered version, it wasn't even in the film originally. I think it was added in later (unless that was the imperial landing craft? Or it was the ILC and the Hoth atst getting added in the digital remake? Someone please jump in here) 

Either way, I'm absolutely stoked to hear it'll be the actual Hoth variant. Given minifig sizing and the fact squeezing 2 minifigs in a normal atst which has a slightly larger head, I see absolutely no issue at all with them omitting a second seat position. It can likely be modified to have one if absolutely necessary, but for me, it'll be an absolute acceptable compromise. 

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The AT-ST set sounds more enticing now but being the best set in a wave this mediocre really isn't saying much. Hopefully the Probe Droid is a solid build. If there's one Hoth set I've actually wanted to see get made, it's Han and Chewie vs the Imperial Probe Droid since we've never gotten a decent minifig-scale build of one. Still, if I had a choice, I would have vastly preferred getting a proper FO AT-ST as I really like the changes to the design and it would give LEGO a chance to redeem themselves for one of, if not the worst, LEGO Star Wars set ever made.

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25 minutes ago, PreVizsla said:

Really wish it was the endor one. I don't think anyone would complain, HOTH version was apparently only in the shot for few seconds. I might be wrong though i don't like ot.

I wouldn't complain about an RotJ one, per se, but I'm certainly happier to hear that it's the ESB version. The RotJ version has already appeared in four regular sets and a UCS (counting the Rogue One set, since that's identical to the RotJ model). Sure, the ESB version isn't as famous, but it's better to have the variety given that there's no shortage of the RotJ one. They're similar enough that people who don't already know won't notice or care, and the people who do know the difference will, I expect, generally be glad they got it right.

 

5 minutes ago, Fuppylodders said:

True it was only a few blurry seconds. And, I may be mistaken, but, I think.... In the original non-remastered version, it wasn't even in the film originally. I think it was added in later (unless that was the imperial landing craft? Or it was the ILC and the Hoth atst getting added in the digital remake? Someone please jump in here)

No, the AT-ST was always in the movie. You may be thinking of the Sentinel-class landing crafts that were added to Tatooine in the Special Edition of ANH.

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21 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

The AT-ST set sounds more enticing now but being the best set in a wave this mediocre really isn't saying much. Hopefully the Probe Droid is a solid build. If there's one Hoth set I've actually wanted to see get made, it's Han and Chewie vs the Imperial Probe Droid since we've never gotten a decent minifig-scale build of one. 

What about the probe droid in 75014? That seemed good to me, as a minifig scale version. Given we will be getting a probe droid and chewie in the same set, that's 66% of your wish right there! Just bricklink the Hoth han polybag and you're golden :) 

 

*edit @Kdapt-Preacher@Kdapt-Preacher

Yes, the sentinel, that's the one I meant (when I said ILC) 

And ahh, thanks for the clarification :thumbup:

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4 hours ago, Archer said:

Adding to those points, SW is also rather limited in significant vehicles bigger than a speeder bike but smaller than an x-wing. Prices point exist, and the options at 20-30$ vehicles in the OT are snowspeeder, landspeeder, a-wing,… cloud car?, sky hopper?. 
 

PT has a few more options at that size but not a lot more. ST has a couple. 22 years of wanting to have cheaper “iconic” vehicles on the market will kind of dictate what gets remade. Even down sizing the TIE brought it to 40$

Add the V35 speeder which is now in the Cantina - add 2-3 great new figures to it, use a different paint scheme (black) and that could sell.

Are banthas counting as vehicles ? New mold for bantha is long overdue - 2 banthas , some sand people and something the banthas will drag behind

But yes, the list of vehicles in this pricepoint is small, so move to buildings maybe ?

 

 

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10 hours ago, Brickroll said:

What do you mean by that?

The FO stormtroopers, with the exception of pauldrons and the belts which have already been represented as printed, don't really have anything you could really accessorise them with. Supposedly you could, but I feel that these packs would be much more valuable if they were clone or OT-based, for the purposes of MOCing and getting new and interesting parts. ST figures are, after these few years, much more accessible so from a collection standpoint I feel they wouldn't be as desirable either.

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The Hoth AT-ST sounds pretty decent :thumbup: Between this and the Hoth Scout Trooper, one could think that they initially wanted to release some ROTJ sets before changing their minds, but keeping the set ideas :laugh_hard: Good thing there aren‘t any Hoth Ewoks

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If the UCS Landspeeder is real, I’ll looking forward to the UCS Gonk Droid in October 22.

That would be incredible.

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2 hours ago, Fuppylodders said:

And, I may be mistaken, but, I think.... In the original non-remastered version, it wasn't even in the film originally. I think it was added in later (unless that was the imperial landing craft? Or it was the ILC and the Hoth atst getting added in the digital remake? Someone please jump in here) 

The Hoth AT-ST was always in ESB (Source): 
 

Joe Johnston: It’s one of the models that was designed through kit bashing. . . I basically was making the prototype and making it in three-dimensional form instead of doing sketches first. I finished the model, I showed George, he liked the design a lot. He said, “That’s great, but we don’t have any time.” This was very near the end of the VFX process, so we didn’t know how we were actually going to have time to get this thing into any shot in the movie. But George says, “You know, we’ll use it in the sequel. We’ll use it in the next film”. . . So Phil Tippett came in and said. . . “What if I took the model, took it apart, and attached the pieces to a stop motion armature? We can build an armature super-fast because it was just basically these aluminum arms.” He said, “I think we’ll have time to get it into a few shots.” So he did that. . . He was able to get it into one shot in the background, where it’s just sort of cruising through. . . That’s the only shot we had time to get it into. 
 

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3 hours ago, Stuartn said:

The FO stormtroopers, with the exception of pauldrons and the belts which have already been represented as printed, don't really have anything you could really accessorise them with. Supposedly you could, but I feel that these packs would be much more valuable if they were clone or OT-based, for the purposes of MOCing and getting new and interesting parts. ST figures are, after these few years, much more accessible so from a collection standpoint I feel they wouldn't be as desirable either.

I think you might be mistaken, the accessory packs often contain 4 full figures not just pauldrons and belts.

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36 minutes ago, TeeNuggetTa said:

I think you might be mistaken, the accessory packs often contain 4 full figures not just pauldrons and belts.

I am aware of the figures, but generally there will be other parts for accessories, for example the HP pack has wands, books and a table included, in the context of SW, the most figure-related accessories could be exemplified within the OT and PT, though I would be open to other set ideas

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9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The Hoth AT-ST sounds pretty decent :thumbup: Between this and the Hoth Scout Trooper, one could think that they initially wanted to release some ROTJ sets before changing their minds, but keeping the set ideas :laugh_hard: Good thing there aren‘t any Hoth Ewoks

I think you're on to something there. I'm surprised we're not getting a baby Wampa *cough* ewok. :laugh:

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19 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

I agree that in the grand scheme of things, it's nowhere near an X-wing or TIE fighter in terms of recognition. Compared to the two vehicles mentioned though, I think it is. Its close association with the protagonist helps (it's pretty much Luke's only way of getting around Tatooine, at least that he uses on screen). In contrast, the Venators and ARC-170s mostly play a supporting role to the main characters in that scene in RotS (I'm assuming that most people won't have watched TCW), and even then there isn't really any direct interaction between the main characters and the Venators. The further removed from the protagonists a thing is, the less likely Joe Bloggs will remember it, IMHO.

Sticking with RotS, I'd say the landspeeder is on about the same level as the Eta-2 Jedi Starfighters, which is reflected in the number of playscale sets they've had - it doesn't scream Star Wars in the same way the Millennium Falcon or a Star Destroyer would, but I think most people will recognise them. The difference is that there are at least four unique colourways for those, so they may not feel as repetitive as the landspeeder. Hopefully that will be our next prequel UCS.

The assumption that the average fan hasn't watched CW is, IMO, outdated and wrong. With how accessible the SW TV shows are now and how mainstream CW Season 7 was the average SW fan has most definitely watched portions if not all the CW. It's not 2008 anymore so the Venator and Arc have gotten a lot more screentime and out of a crowd, I guarantee they're more recognizable as SW than a Landspeeder.

Also, I have a question about displaying the Gunship. Has anyone attempted to remove one wing since it's so large cause I can't seem to work out how without it affecting the cannons in some way.

Also, sorry mod if this is the wrong place to ask this so here we are. 

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45 minutes ago, kidtheboss611 said:

The assumption that the average fan hasn't watched CW is, IMO, outdated and wrong. With how accessible the SW TV shows are now and how mainstream CW Season 7 was the average SW fan has most definitely watched portions if not all the CW. It's not 2008 anymore so the Venator and Arc have gotten a lot more screentime and out of a crowd, I guarantee they're more recognizable as SW than a Landspeeder.

Possibly - Disney+ certainly will have changed that, although it hasn't been around for long. I think most people would probably have watched the films, then the Mandalorian, and then TCW off the back of the second season. I still don't think it would be a landslide but you could be right.

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Anecdotally: I am watching TCW after finishing The Mandalorian because it's on Disney+ and I might as well watch it while I'm subscribed.

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10 minutes ago, jimmynick said:

Anecdotally: I am watching TCW after finishing The Mandalorian because it's on Disney+ and I might as well watch it while I'm subscribed.

'might as well'... 

I find your lack of faith disturbing... :yoda: :laugh:

Interestingly, what got you watching mandalorian before TCW? 

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4 hours ago, kidtheboss611 said:

The assumption that the average fan hasn't watched CW is, IMO, outdated and wrong. With how accessible the SW TV shows are now and how mainstream CW Season 7 was the average SW fan has most definitely watched portions if not all the CW. It's not 2008 anymore so the Venator and Arc have gotten a lot more screentime and out of a crowd, I guarantee they're more recognizable as SW than a Landspeeder.

Yeah, The Clone Wars hasn’t been very accessible in Australia. I believe it only became available on demand in 2014 on Netflix which didn’t become widespread until ~2017-18. I didn’t watch it until 2019 after I’d watched all of Rebels and I first watched Empire in 1995. One of our major retailers, KMart, won’t even carry stock of the TCW sets at the moment so they only stock half the current wave.

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15 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The Hoth AT-ST sounds pretty decent :thumbup: Between this and the Hoth Scout Trooper, one could think that they initially wanted to release some ROTJ sets before changing their minds, but keeping the set ideas :laugh_hard: Good thing there aren‘t any Hoth Ewoks

Haha, I can totally imagine this scenario in my head... :D
The employees gathering around the morning coffee table when the CEO crushes in and asks if the Episode V sets are ready as they are going to the production line tomorrow, when the brave one tells that he spoke about Episode VI earlier. "The difference between V and VI is I, aren't I?" the CEO laughs and leaves the room leaving the employees staring at each other.

That one as a joke, I am honestly very happy that we get more scout trooper helmets (also in this year's Advent calendar) and that Lego actually pays attention to the traditional Expanded Universe lore.

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I still think the best scaled AT-ST was in the 2009 Battle of Endor set, but I'm looking forward to the new Hoth version. 

Is there any word on figures with the UCS Landspeeder? I'm not a UCS scale fan, but I like the vehicle, I know it's not necessarily a popular choice though. Uncle Owen, Luke and Ben are pretty much as good as they can be, I guess more printing on R2 or 3PO would be good though. Beru would be a dream, but not in a £180ish set. 

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4 minutes ago, Seaber said:

Is there any word on figures with the UCS Landspeeder? I'm not a UCS scale fan, but I like the vehicle, I know it's not necessarily a popular choice though. Uncle Owen, Luke and Ben are pretty much as good as they can be, I guess more printing on R2 or 3PO would be good though. Beru would be a dream, but not in a £180ish set. 

I heard Luke and C-3PO

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1 hour ago, Seaber said:

I still think the best scaled AT-ST was in the 2009 Battle of Endor set, but I'm looking forward to the new Hoth version. 

Is there any word on figures with the UCS Landspeeder? I'm not a UCS scale fan, but I like the vehicle, I know it's not necessarily a popular choice though. Uncle Owen, Luke and Ben are pretty much as good as they can be, I guess more printing on R2 or 3PO would be good though. Beru would be a dream, but not in a £180ish set. 

Promobricks just published their story on the set for anyone interested: https://www.promobricks.de/lego-ucs-landspeeder-erscheint-2022/129968/

It looks like it'll be Luke and C-3PO. Maybe they'll release a polybag of Beru as part of May the 4th?

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12 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

I don’t want to hear any complaints about the UCS Landspeeder figures.  Period. 

Someone somewhere will be crying about no Commander Cody 

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