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1 hour ago, BigGuy4U said:

What are the odds that the cancelled set is the one that has Cara Dune in it?

I doubt it. It seems like Disney is allowing for companies to sell Cara Dune merchandise based on how far down the production cycle it is. Hasbro just released a new figure of her in the retro Kenner style and I believe Hot Wheels released a car for her too. The only things that were really pulled were from the Black Series, Vintage Collection, and Funko Pops - all of which were pre-orders for reissues of the figures.

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1 hour ago, BigGuy4U said:

What are the odds that the cancelled set is the one that has Cara Dune in it?

Lego cancelling a $160 set because it has a (most likely repeat) figure of a character played by an actress that was "canceled" would really make me angry, but given the jabba's palace and slave leia "controversies", I wouldn't put it past them. I still do think it's more likely to be the one that we don't know the contents of, or the vader's meditation chamber, though.

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4 hours ago, Stefanisimo said:

Was Vader's meditation chamber revealed not to be the 70$ set or cancelled? 

If so, then maybe that is the 30$ set, similar to the Vader's transformation from 2017. It would fit the price and said exclusivity.

75296 has been heavily implied to be the Vader's Meditation Chamber. Branded 18+, ~$69.99, 663 pieces (via Promobricks)

75319 is still the mystery $30 set. 

I have heard some other reputable leakers state that a set using the number 75369 (originally stated to be Vader's Chambers) is still coming this year. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Childish_Landino said:

75296 has been heavily implied to be the Vader's Meditation Chamber. Branded 18+, ~$69.99, 663 pieces (via Promobricks)

75319 is still the mystery $30 set. 

I have heard some other reputable leakers state that a set using the number 75369 (originally stated to be Vader's Chambers) is still coming this year. 

 

I'd be curious if Vader's Meditation Chamber would be a SDCC exclusive set? Could this explain the mix up? 

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1 hour ago, Prometheus87 said:

I'd be curious if Vader's Meditation Chamber would be a SDCC exclusive set? Could this explain the mix up? 

I don't think so. 2020 was a one-time thing, since they already had the sets produced when SDCC got canceled. For this one, I think that they'd have been smart enough to wait before producing them, especially since SDCC 2021 was confirmed to be not happening SUPER early on. Combine this with how far back it's been rumored (from what I remember SDCC sets don't really get leaked, again with 2020 as an exception due to retail sales of them), and I think it's pretty unlikely that it's an SDCC set.

1 hour ago, Childish_Landino said:

75296 has been heavily implied to be the Vader's Meditation Chamber. Branded 18+, ~$69.99, 663 pieces (via Promobricks)

75319 is still the mystery $30 set. 

I have heard some other reputable leakers state that a set using the number 75369 (originally stated to be Vader's Chambers) is still coming this year. 

This reminds me of last year. Speculation that certain sets were cancelled, all doom and gloom, and then the reliable sources come along and clarify there's actually MORE sets possibly coming.

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5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think so. 2020 was a one-time thing, since they already had the sets produced when SDCC got canceled. For this one, I think that they'd have been smart enough to wait before producing them, especially since SDCC 2021 was confirmed to be not happening SUPER early on. Combine this with how far back it's been rumored (from what I remember SDCC sets don't really get leaked, again with 2020 as an exception due to retail sales of them), and I think it's pretty unlikely that it's an SDCC set.

This reminds me of last year. Speculation that certain sets were cancelled, all doom and gloom, and then the reliable sources come along and clarify there's actually MORE sets possibly coming.

I hope this is the case. I've been reading isolated comments here and there that the 75313 UCS AT-AT isn't in the cards for this year, too. Hopefully they're wrong and we actually get this and more sets.

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5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

This reminds me of last year. Speculation that certain sets were cancelled, all doom and gloom, and then the reliable sources come along and clarify there's actually MORE sets possibly coming.

Umm... the sets that were "speculated" to be cancelled were in fact cancelled. And, we got far fewer System sets than in previous years, which was the impetus for the "doom and gloom". Yes, there were one or two retail exclusives whose identities weren't publicly known in advance, but this is true most years... The one saving grace was the Cantina... but even with it, I doubt there are many who would call 2020 a banner year.

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15 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

I've been working on the assumption it is anyway. A lot of the set lists have been kind of ambiguous on those two sets, and the contents definitely don't scream $70 based on what we've heard so far. If anyone with more info knows please smite me down and correct me!

I smite you down good sir. The only list that matters is not ambiguous. 

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5 hours ago, MandRproductions said:

I smite you down good sir. The only list that matters is not ambiguous. 

Alright, against my better judgement I’ll bite. Are you going to tell us what it is or are you just going to keep adding fuel to the mindless speculation fire by dangling it over our heads like you would keys with a baby?

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1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said:

When do we reckon pictures will leak? (Official Bad Batch probably May 4th but about the rest of the wave?) 

Late June to Mid-July seems to be the prevailing theory based on previous years but with BB on May 4 who knows if that changed things. Doubt it tho.  

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19 hours ago, Childish_Landino said:

75296 has been heavily implied to be the Vader's Meditation Chamber. Branded 18+, ~$69.99, 663 pieces (via Promobricks)

75319 is still the mystery $30 set. 

I have heard some other reputable leakers state that a set using the number 75369 (originally stated to be Vader's Chambers) is still coming this year. 

 

Hm, well that's nice to hear! The more the merrier.

21 minutes ago, hondohnaka said:

Late June to Mid-July seems to be the prevailing theory based on previous years but with BB on May 4 who knows if that changed things. Doubt it tho.  

I just hope that the Bad Batch leak didn't cause them to tighten up the valves so we don't get to see the pictures until shortly before their release date. 

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7 hours ago, MandRproductions said:

I smite you down good sir. The only list that matters is not ambiguous. 

Spill the beans & let us know then. :classic:

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Brick vault edited the shuttle to be dark grey and it honestly looks a lot better.  Should be an easy mod, plus you get a bunch of sand blue bricks out of changing it over.

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21 minutes ago, ood0 said:

Brick vault edited the shuttle to be dark grey and it honestly looks a lot better.  Should be an easy mod, plus you get a bunch of sand blue bricks out of changing it over.

Question’s gonna be how much more that’s gonna set you back. Honestly if they’d made it a bit bigger and had both (presumably) paint jobs and made it 120-150 I wouldn’t have complained. As it stands it simultaneously grows on and disgusts me more every time I look at it. 

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12 hours ago, jdubbs said:

I doubt there are many who would call 2020 a banner year.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but 2020 was the best year for Lego Star Wars in my eyes, or at least since I started collecting. (Around the time TFA came out.) There were certainly flaws to be found with what Lego put out last year, but I think the good outweighed the bad. The UCS A-Wing and MBS Cantina were things that fans had wanted for a while and both were great looking sets. Lego made almost everything left to be made from TROS, aside from an Exegol play set, and we got a complete collection of Knights of Ren out of it. The summer wave was a perfect balance between sets based off off each trilogy, TCW, Mandalorian and even more obscure properties, like the IT-S Transport from Galaxy’s Edge. (Which is a stellar model and the most overlooked set that came out last year in my opinion.) 

As for the Havoc Marauder discussion, I think sand blue is a passable color scheme. Depending on the image or scene you’re looking at, it looks more sand blue than gray, and like it’s been said before, it might be getting a paint job in this new show. Personally, I like that we’re getting a big ship that’s not another bland variation of black or gray, and my problems with the set are with the build itself, the sticker cockpit and the fact that I think the speeders should have been included in their own set.

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2 hours ago, hondohnaka said:

Late June to Mid-July seems to be the prevailing theory based on previous years but with BB on May 4 who knows if that changed things. Doubt it tho.  

We got pictures from catalog on June 4, and on June 17 we got all the official puctures. 

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48 minutes ago, The Stud said:

Might be an unpopular opinion, but 2020 was the best year for Lego Star Wars in my eyes, or at least since I started collecting. (Around the time TFA came out.) There were certainly flaws to be found with what Lego put out last year, but I think the good outweighed the bad. The UCS A-Wing and MBS Cantina were things that fans had wanted for a while and both were great looking sets. Lego made almost everything left to be made from TROS, aside from an Exegol play set, and we got a complete collection of Knights of Ren out of it. The summer wave was a perfect balance between sets based off off each trilogy, TCW, Mandalorian and even more obscure properties, like the IT-S Transport from Galaxy’s Edge. (Which is a stellar model and the most overlooked set that came out last year in my opinion.) 

I agree, the January wave was pretty solid in my opinion too.  We got the Mustafar duel, which had only been represented in set form twice before (once as two of the floaty platforms included in Anakin's starfighter, the last time we got a real rendition of the duel was 15 years ago), Obi-Wan's hut was the first representation of that set, and the Mandalorian Battle Pack was great.  My only real complaint with the summer wave was the price of Grievous' starfighter.  I will admit, if the Cantina hadn't come out, I probably would've been less excited about the year as a whole, but it was still a fairly diverse wave overall, with a nice mix of popular stuff being re-released and some more obscure vehicles.

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We’ve been so used to mediocrity in the last few years, that the summer 2020 wave was amazing. It was a positive step, but nowhere near the golden ages. 

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17 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said:

We’ve been so used to mediocrity in the last few years, that the summer 2020 wave was amazing. It was a positive step, but nowhere near the golden ages. 

What would the golden ages be?

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23 minutes ago, MAVERICK26 said:

What would the golden ages be?

Well that's a very subjective idea, but I think the general consensus is around 2011-14. The era of Jabba's Palace, Sail Barge, Republic Gunship, AT-TE, Palpatine's Arrests etc.

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Just expanding on what @BacktoBricks said, the early 2010s seem to generally be agreed upon as one of the best eras, for a few reasons.

1) SW wasn't regularly producing as much new content, and the stuff that was coming out, with the exception of Rebels in 2014, wasn't the main focus for the sets.  So, in 2015 most of the sets were TFA focused, in 2016 it was the same with RO, 2017 with TLJ, 2018 with Solo, and so on.  For those that were fans of the movies, it was obviously good, but if you were more interested in sets from the prequels or OT (not counting very common remakes like Jedi Starfighters or Snowspeeders and stuff), that kind of stuff was put on the back burner.  FWIW, I think a lot of those waves were very good too, but they were just wayyy less diverse.  Conversely, in the early 2010s, with less new content, waves would be split between different properties.  We did get stuff like a big AOTC wave in 2013, or some TCW waves in 2012 or so, but the waves were also a bit larger, so they could still include other stuff from the OT.  

2) LEGO's building techniques at that point had found a really good, happy medium between simple enough to be fun to put together yet attractive visually.  I absolutely adore some of the early 2000s SW stuff, but most sets from 1999 until around 2005 or so definitely don't hold up visually to anything produced after that era.  They started to produce more and more specialized parts and colors in the mid-late 2000s, and by the early 2010s, it seems like they had just sort of found their stride as far as attractive usage of such pieces.  Sets in like 2016-2019, at times, almost got too large and complex.  X-Wings were running close to $90, the Slave I went from a reliably $50-60 ship to $120, Grievous' starfighter went from a $50 model to $80, and so on.  Inflation is part of that, but the size and complexity of sets just went up drastically, at times unnecessarily. 

On top of that, we also started to get a lot more updated versions of figures.  As much as I love the original Boba Fett figure, the new one (I still call it new, even though it's like a decade old at this point, :laugh:) is just so much more accurate. 

3) For the most part, they found a really happy medium between remakes and new stuff as far as set content.  Most of the remakes were also highly requested and major improvements, like Jabba's Palace or the Cantina.  Pretty much the only super-requested sets that didn't get remade in this era were a TIE Bomber, Yoda's Hut and Cloud City (though we eventually got 2/3 of those).  Part of the reason this sort of thing can't really occur as much is that most remakes now aren't really going to improve that much on their predecessors, because there's only so accurate you can make a set that's sellable.  Plus, there's also fewer vehicles/locations from older content that both haven't been made and is actually feasible as a set.  From the OT, it's basically just the Lars Homestead, Yavin IV, and the Nebulon B.  There's more for the PT, but realistically there's still not a ton that's doable as a set (stuff like the Trade Federation Landing Craft, in my opinion, is just way too big to actually sell well).  

I do think there's some stuff that's a lot better today, like the UCS and especially MBS series (a $350 Cantina or Cloud City would've been a pipe dream at that time), but it was a great era to collect overall.

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45 minutes ago, BacktoBricks said:

Well that's a very subjective idea, but I think the general consensus is around 2011-14. The era of Jabba's Palace, Sail Barge, Republic Gunship, AT-TE, Palpatine's Arrests etc.

Yes, I can see that as being the Golden Period - Everything was nice back then and we didn't have diminutive TIE Fighters. 

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6 hours ago, Brikkyy13 said:

Alright, against my better judgement I’ll bite. Are you going to tell us what it is or are you just going to keep adding fuel to the mindless speculation fire by dangling it over our heads like you would keys with a baby?

 

4 hours ago, Sarah_H7744 said:

Spill the beans & let us know then. :classic:

Guys, if MandR wants to share something he will. Pestering him will not get us more info. You don't have to agree with his timing on sharing details. But if you pester he will not have a reason to share anything.

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