42113 Reconstruction Guide

[Ngoc Nguyen]

ALL CREDITS GO TO THE LEGO GROUP FOR THE DESIGN AND THE INSTRUCTION BOOK.

 

WHERE CAN I GET THE INSTRUCTIONS?

Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/file/k4nu591ygsd7tn5/42113.pdf/file

 

WHERE DOES THAT FILE COME FROM?

The Lego distributor in Vietnam put the set on the shelf early. I bought it. I paid a photocopy shop to have it scanned.

 

WHERE CAN I GET THE PART LIST?

Photos from Racingbrick.

 

 

WHAT ARE THE NEW PARTS IN THIS SET?

New Parts in 42113:

- Power Up Battery Box, part number 22167 / 6214082 / bb1165c01

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=bb1165c01&C=86#T=C&C=86

 

Parts in New Color in 42113

- Technic Liftarm 3x3 T-shaped in Orange, part number 60484 / 6305545
- Rotor Blade (Sian Side Skirt) in Black, part number 65422 / 6305550
- Wheel 31mm D. x 15mm in Orange, part number 60208 / 6303441
- Technic Panel 5x11 Tapered in Orange, part number 18945 / 6303439
- Technic Panel 5x11 Tapered in DBG, part number 18945 / 6112843
- Technic Panel 3x5 #1 in DBG, part number 87080 / 6013548
- Technic Panel 3x5 #2 in DBG, part number 87086 / 6303445
- Technic Curved Triangular Panel 3x13 #50 (Sian's hood) in DBG, part 67142 / 6310171
- Technic Curved Triangular Panel 3x13 #51 (Sian's hood) in DBG, part 68196 / 6310172
- Technic Curved Panel 3x13 in DBG, part number 18944 / 6303446

 

HOW CAN I BUY THE PARTS?

I'd suggest you use Bricklink. Pick the lists that suit your need from the one below, then import it into a wanted list in Bricklink. To import, go to Want, and pick Upload from the menu.

Bricklink lists:

1/ List of everything: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-83101/nguyengiangoc/42113-maiden-flight-version/#details

What this list has: All existing parts with the exact colors in the official part list above, and all the new parts and parts with new color listed in the previous question but in different colors.
What this list doesn't have: All parts with new color listed in the previous question in the original colors.

 

2/ List of all existing parts: The XML code is in this link. https://pastebin.com/a8TaMR9m. Credit to @Alitai. The list doesnt not contain the new parts and the parts in the new color listed in the previous question.

What this list has: All existing parts with the exact colors in the official part list above
What this list doesn't have: All the new parts and parts with new color listed in the previous question

 

3/ List of orange parts: Because some of the orange parts are exclusive to this set and haven't appeared on Bricklink, I put all of the parts in red. https://pastebin.com/AmDNwp6V

What this list has: All of the Orange liftarms and panels and system parts in the part list above, but in Red. That means it does include the parts in Orange exclusive to this set, but those parts are listed in Red.
What this list doesn't have: One Technic 3L pin with bush in Orange. All the remaining parts in the Master list.

 

4/ List of DBG parts: Because some of the DBG parts are exclusive to this set and haven't appeared on Bricklink, I put all of the parts in white. https://pastebin.com/GuLnJYF0. 

What this list has: All of the DBG liftarms and panels and system parts in the part list above, but in White. That means it does include the parts in DBG exclusive to this set, but those parts are listed in White. I've substituted the two triangular panels with two 3x13 curved panels. That means it has 3 3x13 curved panels.
What this list doesn't have: Triangular curved panels (Sian's hood). DBG gears or connectors or axles. All the remaining parts in the Master list.

5/ List of Remaining parts: This list is the List of all existing parts (list 1) without the parts included in Red and White recolor (list 2 and 3). https://pastebin.com/qdZztzsA

What this list has: All of the parts remain after the Orange and DBG parts in list 2 and 3 above are deleted.
What this list doesn't have: 6 rotor blades. New battery box.

 

HOW MUCH DO THE PARTS COST?

I put the lists 2 3 4 into bricklink and created a cart for all of them. The tentative costs for parts alone is 216 EUR at the time of writing.

 

DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A FUNCTIONAL REPLICA OF 42113?

Yes and No.

Yes because this set has a dumb Power Up Battery Box that powers the L-motor. Without the battery box obviously the motor wont work.

No because all of the other components for the main functions, namely gears and the L-motor, have all been released in other sets, and there are ways to get around the requirement for the new dumb battery box.

 

HOW CAN I GET THE NEW DUMB BATTERY BOX?

The new battery box has been officially released by Lego as a standalone set with the set number 88015. You can buy it directly from online Lego shops. 

 

DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A REPLICA OF 42113 THAT HAS SAME COLOR SCHEME?

Yes. Some parts in DBG and Orange are exclusive to this set.

 

IF I DON'T MIND AN INCONSISTENT COLOR SCHEME, DO I NEED ALL OF THE PARTS IN THE LIST ABOVE TO RECONSTRUCT A REPLICA OF 42113?

No. All of the panels already exist in some other colors.

 

IF I WANT A CONSISTENT COLOR SCHEME, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS?

The colors in the model can be divide in 3 parts:

- LBG for the lower body of the fuselage. There are no new parts or parts in new color in this part, so no need for recolor.

- DBG for the main body. The colors that have all the panels for the body are Black, White, and Dark Azure (42070). I'd recommend White. This is the XML code for the Bricklink list of all body parts in white. https://pastebin.com/GuLnJYF0. This list only contains liftarms and panels. It doesn't contain gears or connectors or axles. The only missing piece is the triangular curved panel. I've substituted the two triangular panels with two 3x13 curved panels.

- Orange for accent. The colors that have the required panels are Black, White, Dark Azure, and Red. Since Black or White should be reserved for the body, I'd recommend Red. And maybe Dark Azure. But Dark Azure won't be as strong as Red. This is the XML code for the Bricklink list of all accent parts in red: https://pastebin.com/AmDNwp6V

The two triangular panels are currently available only in Lime and Red. If we go for White as the main body color and Red for the accent color, then although there are no White triangular panels that correspond with the DBG ones, the Red ones can be used to create a consistent color scheme.

 

There is also a real life white-red color scheme for the Osprey. This is the first flight (maiden flight) of the Osprey.

 

Download the part list and instruction for the Maiden Flight Version here: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-83101/nguyengiangoc/42113-maiden-flight-version/#details 

 

 

 

WHAT DOES THE RECONSTRUCTED VERSION LOOK LIKE?

The maiden flight version looks like this:

 

 

 

 

Comparison with the official set:

 

 

Here are others' versions:

 

 

 

 

HOW DO I FIX THE PROBLEM WITH THE GEARBOX?

The gearbox problem is actually a combination of separate smaller problems:

Problem 1: Gear grinding/chewing. To fix, add 3 8z gears and bracing. Credit goes to Huw from Brickset.

Required additional parts:

- 3x 8z gears, part number 10928
- 2x 5L thin liftarm with axle holes, part number 11478.

PDF instruction: https://bricksafe.com/files/andman/42113---gearbox-fixes/42113_fixes.pdf. Credit goes to @Andman for the creation of the pdf file.

The results should look like either of these. The second version is better because the gears are braced from both sides.

 

 

 

 

Problem 2: Inadequate torque to the spinning blades.

Required additional parts:

- 1x 3L liftarm, part number 32523.
- 2x 20z gear, part number 32269
- 1x 2L pin connector, part number 62462
- 2x Pinhole with pins on both sides, part number 87082
- 2x Half bush, part number 4265c
- 2x 2L axle connector, part number 6538c
- 2x 6L axle, part number 3706

Pdf instruction for 2nd fix: https://bricksafe.com/files/andman/42113---gearbox-fixes/42113_fix_rotor_torque.pdf. Although the pdf only shows the fix for the left nacelle, from step 317 to 325, the same should be applied to the right one, from step 296 to 302. Credit goes to @Andman for the creation of the pdf file.

The results should look like these.

 

 

I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T LISTED HERE. HOW CAN I ASK YOU?

Leave a comment in this thread and I'll reply.

Edited October 7 by Ngoc Nguyen

[M_longer]

I'd love to see 3D model made in Stud.io ;)

[Ngoc Nguyen]

@R0Sch has started the modeling.

@efferman has planned to do so.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Ngoc Nguyen

[R0Sch]

10 minutes ago, M_longer said:

I'd love to see 3D model made in Stud.io ;)

I will try to finish by Friday but not all parts are available in Studio yet (triangular panel, rotor blades, etc) since they were released first time with the Lamborghini Sian.

@Ngoc Nguyen I need to get home first. Still at work :)

Edited July 22, 2020 by R0Sch
update

[JunkstyleGio]

Thanks for the instructions.

Lets see how far we get without all those (not yet existing) new parts.

 

[LvdH]

Very nice! I’ve uploaded them to my Dropbox in case Mediafire takes them down or expires:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8dqwm2gcqjsj7g/42113 Instruction.pdf?dl=0

[Cardboy]

@Ngoc NguyenYou sir  are a gentleman

[BusterHaus]

First 10 steps in case anyone wants to use them.

Edit: @Ngoc Nguyen Page 174 of the instructions is folded, can you please post it?

Spoiler

0 FILE main.ldr
0 Name: 42113
0 Author: Bart "BusterHaus" Olszewski
0 FILE Bag 1.ldr
0 Author: Bart "BusterHaus" Olszewski
0 STEP
1 72 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 15458.dat
1 1 120 0 20 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat
0 STEP
1 1 120 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 Bag 1 - Step 2.ldr
1 72 120 0 100 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 40490.dat
0 STEP
1 72 240 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 15458.dat
0 STEP
1 0 300 0 -30 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 3673.dat
1 1 180 0 -40 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 6558.dat
1 1 60 0 -40 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 6558.dat
1 1 220 0 -40 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 6558.dat
1 1 -60 0 -40 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 6558.dat
0 STEP
1 71 60 0 -40 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 41239.dat
1 71 320 0 -40 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 41239.dat
0 STEP
1 71 180 0 -60 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 32316.dat
1 71 0 0 -60 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 32524.dat
1 1 140 0 -60 0 0 1 0 -1 0 1 0 0 6558.dat
0 STEP
1 71 100 0 -60 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 48989.dat
1 0 40 0 -70 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 3673.dat
1 0 20 0 -70 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 3673.dat
0 STEP
1 71 120 0 -80 0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 32524.dat
1 71 320 20 20 0 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 1 15100.dat
0 STEP
1 0 80 20 -20 0 0 -1 0 -1 0 -1 0 0 Bag 1 - Step 9.ldr
0 STEP
1 4 320 20 20 -1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 3706.dat
1 71 250 20 20 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 32034.dat
1 0 160 20 20 1 0 0 0 0 -1 0 1 0 3707.dat
0 STEP
0 FILE Bag 1 - Step 2.ldr
0 Author: Bart "BusterHaus" Olszewski
0 STEP
1 72 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 60483.dat
1 1 0 0 -20 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat
1 1 10 0 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 43093.dat
0 STEP
0 FILE Bag 1 - Step 9.ldr
0 Author: Bart "BusterHaus" Olszewski
0 STEP
1 71 0 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 32184.dat
1 1 -20 0 -10 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0 43093.dat
1 0 0 10 0 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2780.dat
0 STEP
1 71 20 0 -20 0 0 1 0 -1 0 1 0 0 4519.dat
1 72 -60 0 -20 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 0 1 0 40490.dat
0 STEP
1 71 20 0 -40 0 1 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 6536.dat
1 0 40 10 -40 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2780.dat
0 STEP

 

 

Edited July 22, 2020 by BusterHaus

[suffocation]

Vielen Dank

[efferman]

43 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

@R0Sch has started the modeling.

@efferman has planned to do so.

My pre-order is cancelled by the webshop. So i will not have the parts to make the fake parts.

[BusterHaus]

5 minutes ago, efferman said:

My pre-order is cancelled by the webshop. So i will not have the parts to make the fake parts.

What parts were you planning to make?

[Alitai]

Thanks so much!

All clear:

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/2f82a38a7fbfa526d87416c128aa80bed7f8b6c48eb2775f658edb5935fbed2a/detection

Great work!!!

[bitbamboo]

Many thanks! Great initiative.

 

I am not planning to build this in the short term, so not really worried by the parts. 

 

I'll keep and eye on BnP so if the panels show up i'll give a heads up here. This may happen. What is is sure is that in a couple of years all parts will become available in other sets and in more colors: specially the dumb battery box. So with some patience we will get everything or a reasonable alternative.

 

 

 

 

[arijitdas]

@Ngoc Nguyen Thank you for sharing the instruction. I guess the next part of the challenge would be to rebuild this set using the PF motors. Not sure if someone has already taken up this challenge.

[efferman]

3 minutes ago, BusterHaus said:

What parts were you planning to make?

To make an .io i have to make cad files of the new parts in the set. And without real parts i can not make cad parts.

[suffocation]

Just now, arijitdas said:

Not sure if someone has already taken up this challenge

I'm working on it but using the LiPo battery box, which I guess is a bit of a cheat.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

29 minutes ago, BusterHaus said:

Edit: @Ngoc Nguyen Page 174 of the instructions is folded, can you please post it?

It involves adding a red 16z gear and a 3L DBG beam to the lower row of axles.  Page 175 involves adding two red 16z gears to the upper row of axles.

[R0Sch]

1 minute ago, efferman said:

To make an .io i have to make cad files of the new parts in the set. And without real parts i can not make cad parts.

Then you need to buy the Sian ;). The new battery box can be replaced with the Control+ version.

[Conchas]

1 hour ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Parts in New Color in 42113

- Cylinder Hemisphere in Black, part number 86500 / 6252319

This part was already released before in black color.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Just now, Conchas said:

This part was already released before in black color.

Right, my bad. Got it fixed.

[efferman]

9 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

Then you need to buy the Sian ;). 

Iam not interrested in the sian.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

33 minutes ago, efferman said:

And without real parts i can not make cad parts.

But why though? Can't you just make up the parts or use approximations?

[efferman]

3 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

approximations?

Approximations based on pictures are a quallified guess in best case. But ok, formula1 teams can copy whole cars from pictures.

[R0Sch]

The parts from the Sian are available on Bricks and Pieces so they could be bought instead of the whole set... just a thought.

[efferman]

A qualified guess is better than buying parts in an hard to use colour.