Dream Lego Licensed Themes

[wanderer1980]

Remake of the LotR Therme like HP would be awesome

Warhammer would be amazing

but i would like the simplest most: Remakes of the old Space Thermes like M:Tron, Blacktron, Futuron or Unitron

 

Edited January 13, 2022 by wanderer1980

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 minutes ago, wanderer1980 said:

but i would like the simplest most: Remakes of the old Space Thermes like M:Tron, Blacktron, Futuron or Unitron

Those aren’t licensed though  And Warhammer clashes a tiny wee bit with TLG’s values, doesn’t it? 

[Mr No]

It seems Lego and TT Games was going to make a Lara Croft game.

Lego Indiana Jones and Tomb Raider was a planned action adventure game in the Lego franchise, revolving around two famous fictional adventurers, Indiana Jones and Lara Croft. A test animation showing Lara Croft and Indiana Jones was pitched to Lego and LucasArts in 2006, but never made it any further.

 https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/Lego_Indiana_Jones_and_Tomb_Raider

And a Lego 007 videogame, which didn't happen because of the release of Casino Royale that deemed the franchise too dark for kids...ha ha ha ha

I still hope we get Lego James Bond sets and, well the next reboot is more fun again. 

After the success of Lego Star Wars: The Video Game, Travelers Tales wanted to explore more franchises in Lego form. A test animation of a Lego James Bond was pitched to Lego from Travelers Tales around 2005.

 

Why It Was Cancelled

1. When Casino Royale came out, Lego thought the Bond franchise was "too dark and gritty for a kids game".
2. Possibly, Lego didn't have any 007 sets at the time.

https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/Lego_007

 

You can find the animation tests here:

 

[Lion King]

1 hour ago, Mr No said:

And a Lego 007 videogame, which didn't happen because of the release of Casino Royale that deemed the franchise too dark for kids...ha ha ha ha

I still hope we get Lego James Bond sets and, well the next reboot is more fun again

I dunno if it’s a joke or notbut whatever. A Lego 007 video game is “too dark”? Dude…it’s a Lego video game which developers usually put some humor way in some “dark” scenes in video games.

What do you mean by “reboot”? I’m not sure if I’m reading correctly?

Edited January 13, 2022 by DBlegonerd7

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

What do you mean by “reboot”? I’m not sure if I’m reading correctly?

The next Bond film will be a reboot of sorts due to the way No Time To Die ended  I’m pretty sure the next iteration will keep the tone of the Craig era though. People are used to that down to Earth approach now and I’m not sure how well a more cheesy reimagining would work nowadays 

Edited January 13, 2022 by BrickBob Studpants

[Lion King]

5 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The next Bond film will be a reboot of sorts due to the way No Time To Die ended  I’m pretty sure the next iteration will keep the tone of the Craig era though. People are used to that down to Earth approach now and I’m not sure how well a more cheesy reimagining would work nowadays 

Ah, thanks for explaning! I was little confsued by Dr. No’s comments in the first place - I thought we had James Bond sets before. 

[Mr No]

16 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

I dunno if it’s a joke but whatever. A Lego 007 video game is “too dark”? Dude…it’s a Lego video game which developers usually put some humor way in some “dark” scenes in video games.

What do you mean by “reboot”? I’m not sure if I’m reading correctly?

What the heck? How am I joking? What I said was true. 

[RedHoodPug]

58 minutes ago, Mr No said:

What the heck? How am I joking? What I said was true. 

One would assume that weapons and killing would be involved, which covers DC, Marvel, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, LoTR, Harry Potter, and Incredibles at least. Thematically Lego has used The Killing Joke Joker costume, the child-friendly Carnage, Punisher, and Deadpool, Mola Ram and his unorthodox cardiectomy, the near-indiscriminate killings of Anakin Skywalker, most of the malevolent forces in Middle Earth, the Avada Kadavra spell, and the myriad dark themes running through the Incredibles films. Bond being too dark is unlikely to be the deciding factor for the permanent binning of a Lego game. Incidentally that Wiki provides no sources for those claims. 

[Karalora]

You have to consider the context of violence and the genre of storytelling where it takes place. You know what all the franchises you mention have in common? Distance from the people watching the movies and the kids playing with the LEGOs. HP and LOTR are fantasies, Star Wars is a space opera, the MCU and Incredibles are four-color superheroes, and Indiana Jones is fantastic 1930s pulp adventure. In every case, there is a layer of unreality that buffers the violence in a sense.

The James Bond franchise, on the other hand, is always contemporary to the year any given film is released, includes no magic or aliens or psychic powers or other exotic unreal elements. Bond’s gadgets can be semi-futuristic and some of the bad guys can be over-the-top, but it presents itself as realistic and current and a serious franchise for grown-ups. That makes the violence more immediate and potentially not something TLG wants associated with their brand.

That and, you know, the sex. Lotta sex in Bond. Probably not the best look for a toy line that will attract 10-year-olds no matter what numbers they print on the box.

For TLG to be willing to pick up a 007 license, they would have to cut out the gunplay and other realistic violence, and the sex, and focus entirely on cool cars and gadgets and chase scenes and outlandish baddies and Rube Goldberg-esque death traps. And I think that would be really fun! But would it satisfy the AFOLs who really really want James Bond LEGO sets?

Are the distinctions between “fantasy” violence and “realistic” violence arbitrary? Yeah, probably. I’m just explaining how PR people see things.

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, Karalora said:

For TLG to be willing to pick up a 007 license, they would have to cut out the gunplay and other realistic violence, and the sex, and focus entirely on cool cars and gadgets and chase scenes and outlandish baddies and Rube Goldberg-esque death traps. And I think that would be really fun! But would it satisfy the AFOLs who really really want James Bond LEGO sets?

[Karalora]

I went back and re-read the first few pages of this thread and this leaped out at me:

On 7/13/2020 at 4:14 AM, LOTR34 said:

Now that Lego and Nintendo are working together a Zelda theme isn't a far fetched idea.Cmon Lego if you aren't planning on bringing back the Castle theme anytime soon at least give us Zelda.

I have been fond of TLoZ…basically since the beginning, back in 1986/87, and just lately I have gotten into the franchise in a big way (thank/blame Breath of the Wild). Zelda sets have been rejected from LEGO Ideas before despite garnering the necessary public support, and I’m sitting here hoping it’s because of the best-case scenario: that TLG is already working with Nintendo to develop one and so couldn’t accept any fan suggestions in that direction.

Honestly the real challenge would be deciding what, out of the wealth of material that exists, to produce in brick form. The best bet would probably be not to try to recreate anything from any one game specifically, but to produce sets based on recurring motifs like Hyrule Castle, various elemental dungeons, etc. Another possibility would be picking one iconic image/location/structure from each of several games and designing sets based on those. In any case, it’s an eminently playable concept, what with the dungeons being so full of puzzles involving switches and levers and doors to unlock, and the franchise attracts a wide age range due to its longevity and the variety of content it provides.

[MAB]

3 hours ago, Karalora said:

I have been fond of TLoZ…basically since the beginning, back in 1986/87, and just lately I have gotten into the franchise in a big way (thank/blame Breath of the Wild). Zelda sets have been rejected from LEGO Ideas before despite garnering the necessary public support, and I’m sitting here hoping it’s because of the best-case scenario: that TLG is already working with Nintendo to develop one and so couldn’t accept any fan suggestions in that direction.

 

If the reason they are rejecting Zelda IDEAS is because they are already developing their own then they must be very complex sets. They have been rejecting them for about a decade now, dating back to CUUSOO days. 

[gedren_y]

3 hours ago, Karalora said:

I went back and re-read the first few pages of this thread and this leaped out at me:

 

I have been fond of TLoZ…basically since the beginning, back in 1986/87, and just lately I have gotten into the franchise in a big way (thank/blame Breath of the Wild). Zelda sets have been rejected from LEGO Ideas before despite garnering the necessary public support, and I’m sitting here hoping it’s because of the best-case scenario: that TLG is already working with Nintendo to develop one and so couldn’t accept any fan suggestions in that direction.

 

Honestly the real challenge would be deciding what, out of the wealth of material that exists, to produce in brick form. The best bet would probably be not to try to recreate anything from any one game specifically, but to produce sets based on recurring motifs like Hyrule Castle, various elemental dungeons, etc. Another possibility would be picking one iconic image/location/structure from each of several games and designing sets based on those. In any case, it’s an eminently playable concept, what with the dungeons being so full of puzzles involving switches and levers and doors to unlock, and the franchise attracts a wide age range due to its longevity and the variety of content it provides.

 

When it comes to TLoZ, I think quite a few fans of the original NES games might appreciate the original game map done as a wall mount.

[Karalora]

53 minutes ago, MAB said:

If the reason they are rejecting Zelda IDEAS is because they are already developing their own then they must be very complex sets. They have been rejecting them for about a decade now, dating back to CUUSOO days. 

I did say it was a best-case scenario. Oh well, I can still dream. It's right there in the thread title.

[Mr No]

8 hours ago, MAB said:

If the reason they are rejecting Zelda IDEAS is because they are already developing their own then they must be very complex sets. They have been rejecting them for about a decade now, dating back to CUUSOO days. 

We only know Lego worked on Super Mario with Nintendo for over 4 years before they released it in 2020. They might have started work on a Zelda theme only one year ago or so depending on the succes of the Mario theme. Until then Nintendo worked woth K'Nex. 

Also, I remember Nintendo applied for a Zelda toys trademark like 1 or 2 years ago. 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Mr No

[Tygurah]

I reaaaally need a Hanna-Barbera license down the line. If not sets, then hopefully at least a CMF series, although sets would be greatly appreciated. Imagine the Wacky Races vehicles or the various fight scenes from their action shows. And then a CMF of stuff like Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound and Top Cat down the line 

[jonwil]

If you want to talk Hanna-Barbera, I want Jetsons stuff please.

Or Tom and Jerry (probably the most famous characters created by that particular duo)

 

[Mr No]

It seems Stargate is now approved for use on Lego Ideas. I hope this means Lego is open to Dune sets in the future, thanks to the Villeneuve film. 

 

[Gorilla94]

Warhammer fantasy. Of course it won't happen, but the world has potential for gorgeous sets as some mocs have already shown.

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, Mr No said:

It seems Stargate is now approved for use on Lego Ideas. I hope this means Lego is open to Dune sets in the future, thanks to the Villeneuve film. 

Too little too late in my opinion, they should‘ve taken advantage of part 1 already  Still hoping for them to change their minds once part 2 hits theatres next year, but I‘m very sceptical

Edited January 15, 2022 by BrickBob Studpants

[Mr No]

13 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Too little too late in my opinion, they should‘ve taken advantage of part 1 already  Still hoping for them to change their minds once part 2 hits theatres next year, but I‘m very sceptical

As a Dune fan, I'm not surprised they wouldn't do stuff for part 1, a lot of people thought it will flop yet it did prove them wrong and became a hit. I think releasing sets for part 2 is better because:

a. It will be more action heavy which means more interesting sets and locations

b. They can do some sets based on part 1 too

Other than the Ornithopters and the Harkonnen troop transport ship Idk what they could have made as sets for Part 1, but part 2 is and was always meant to be more action heavy. It's never too late. Of course, the question is if Lego would want to do it, they do have Star Wars. Avatar is also owned by Disney so they don't seem to habe a problem with that and it is different enough from Star Wars. 

[Mandalorianknight]

On 1/13/2022 at 12:59 PM, RedHoodPug said:

One would assume that weapons and killing would be involved, which covers DC, Marvel, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, LoTR, Harry Potter, and Incredibles at least. Thematically Lego has used The Killing Joke Joker costume, the child-friendly Carnage, Punisher, and Deadpool, Mola Ram and his unorthodox cardiectomy, the near-indiscriminate killings of Anakin Skywalker, most of the malevolent forces in Middle Earth, the Avada Kadavra spell, and the myriad dark themes running through the Incredibles films. Bond being too dark is unlikely to be the deciding factor for the permanent binning of a Lego game. Incidentally that Wiki provides no sources for those claims. 

To be fair, there's a HUGE difference between most of these fantasy killers and James Bond. From Start to Finish: The Killing Joke torso is based on something dark, sure, but the overall figure is clearly removed enough from that context (he has a big duck floatie, for pete's sake) that I can see why it didn't have parents in an uproar. Carnage routinely appears in kid friendly content. Deadpool appeared in kid friendly content frequently back when his figure was released (I actually was introduced to the character via the 2014 spidey cartoon), and after his movie released, lego very clearly backed off of deadpool figs despite his popularity. Punisher was based on his classic comics appearance, which was more in line with what lego would produce, and even then the designer stated he only made it in to the bugle because it was 18+. Mola Ram is pretty bad, I grant you that, but he was very clearly an outlier, and as the main villain of the movie, he kinda had to be there, since the heart thing was just one scene. Anakin's killings are all clearly fantasy, and even then lego doesn't make sets based around order 66 or his implied murder of kids. Plus, it's star wars, are you really gonna say Revenge of the Sith and Casino Royale are around the same level of violence? The LoTR and Hobbit books and movies are of course fantasy and kid-friendly enough, avada Kadavra is a fantasy spell in a children's book series (I like the books but c'mon, they're for kids, and isn't there a rumor that even then lego isn't doing sets that would be associated with the Deathly Hallows films?). And again, the Incredibles movies are for children. Great movies, but they're not exactly deadpool. Being too dark is most certainly the reason there aren't system james bond sets. Sure, you might say they could do stuff based on the less gritty earlier films, but those were still a level more violent, and more importantly had more realistic violence compared to lightsabers and wands, and of course even they had...adult situations, which lego is much more strict on. I think the only property they've done system sets on that's even remotely close to Bond in that regard is Eternals, and I doubt lego was appraised of that scene beforehand.

TLDR: The reason bond wouldn't work for a game/system sets is it's harder to base on the kid-friendly aspects of the material, and it's a bit more lewd than lego tends to go even disregarding the violence.

 

 

Personally I've got my star wars and my spider-man, and I'm pretty satisfied with that. I suppose in terms of realistic properties, I wouldn't say no to a Dune ornithopter or some sort of Clash of Clans set. My absolute pipe dreams that would never happen are Eragon sets (Pretty good fantasy books that could yield some great dragon sets, and it's around the same kid-friendlyness as the harry potter books, but there was a terrible movie that killed the IP, so unless someone revives it we'll never see sets), or maybe an 18+ model of the Rearden Metal train from Atlas Shrugged (Pretty much a billion reasons why this would never happen, but suffice it to say it's a book for adults about some pretty heavy topics and kind of actively mocks stuff that applies to the lego company) 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Mandalorianknight

[Mr No]

I do not understand why Lego aren't open to darker stuff, kids are not the same like the previous generations. They get a phone since the age of 4, they play Call of Duty and other dark games at 6 or 7 (not joking, I know a lot of friends kids that do this). 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Mr No

[RedHoodPug]

13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

On 1/13/2022 at 6:59 PM, RedHoodPug said:

 

To be fair, there's a HUGE difference between most of these fantasy killers and James Bond. From Start to Finish: The Killing Joke torso is based on something dark, sure, but the overall figure is clearly removed enough from that context (he has a big duck floatie, for pete's sake) that I can see why it didn't have parents in an uproar. Carnage routinely appears in kid friendly content. Deadpool appeared in kid friendly content frequently back when his figure was released (I actually was introduced to the character via the 2014 spidey cartoon), and after his movie released, lego very clearly backed off of deadpool figs despite his popularity. Punisher was based on his classic comics appearance, which was more in line with what lego would produce, and even then the designer stated he only made it in to the bugle because it was 18+. Mola Ram is pretty bad, I grant you that, but he was very clearly an outlier, and as the main villain of the movie, he kinda had to be there, since the heart thing was just one scene. Anakin's killings are all clearly fantasy, and even then lego doesn't make sets based around order 66 or his implied murder of kids. Plus, it's star wars, are you really gonna say Revenge of the Sith and Casino Royale are around the same level of violence? The LoTR and Hobbit books and movies are of course fantasy and kid-friendly enough, avada Kadavra is a fantasy spell in a children's book series (I like the books but c'mon, they're for kids, and isn't there a rumor that even then lego isn't doing sets that would be associated with the Deathly Hallows films?). And again, the Incredibles movies are for children. Great movies, but they're not exactly deadpool. Being too dark is most certainly the reason there aren't system james bond sets. Sure, you might say they could do stuff based on the less gritty earlier films, but those were still a level more violent, and more importantly had more realistic violence compared to lightsabers and wands, and of course even they had...adult situations, which lego is much more strict on. I think the only property they've done system sets on that's even remotely close to Bond in that regard is Eternals, and I doubt lego was appraised of that scene beforehand.

The Killing Joke Joker is an alternative skin in the original Batman game. If you want to go further than heinous character of the Joker, lots of DC villains are messed up. Deathstroke has a history of paedophilia and grooming. Tarantula raped Nightwing. Lobo killed his entire race. Aside from the rest of it, saying it’s clearly fantasy doesn’t make it any less violent. Most of Bond’s less than chivalrous behaviour occurred during previous incarnations, which were most certainly not based in reality. Toy companies have been making Bond toys since Goldfinger. Lego doesn’t have to make sets based on the Daniel Craig era if they consider it too dark - one only has to look at their obscure policy with the later HP books to see that in action. It’s nonsense to think that it’s not at all possible.

[Mr No]

If a Bond theme were to happen it would happen with the release of Bond 26 which will reboot the franchise. Playmobil, already got a shot at 007, I don't think this should affect Lego's licensing since I consider them different toys. And if they consider it kid friendly, Frankly, Lego should too. 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Mr No