Wellesley

[GoC] 14 Gun Brig HMS Ymir

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This is my first entry for the Oaken Shield task "Sloops for the Royal Navy" of the GoC-challenge.

The Ymir is the first warship leaving the Farrensman Shipyard. His long time experience and success with ship designs in general lately brought him the attention of the admiralty, which is always looking for ways to strengthen their fleet. For Jorin Farrensman thus the opportunity was created to gain insight in a slightly new field of work.



To
Rear-Admiral Fletcher
Commander of the Royal Terra Novan Fleet

with much pride I hereby report, that yesterday, on the 17th of July 619, the first ship ordered by the admiralty launched at the Farrensman shipyard.
The 14 gun Brig HMS Ymir is completely armed and equipped, ready to take on voyage as soon as demanded.

Your humble servant,
Jorin Farrensman
Shipwright of Hvalfanghimr


A huge crowd of spectators gathers along the black pier of Hvalfanghimr.
Many citizen don't want to let the chance pass to watch the moment she sets her sails for the very first time.
Among them are a lot of children, holding little wooden ship toys and tin soldiers.
"Daddy, look at that huge boat!", you can here a voice shouting.
"That is not a boat my son, it is a ship! A Brigantine." answers a highly civilised banker from the rich part of the town.
An old seablooded sailor witnesses the little chat and can't hold on to himself and turns to the father:
"Listen fella, how dare you teach our precious young fake news!" He points towards the ship.
"Do you see that square sail aloft the main mast over the gaff? Square sails on both ship make her a brig. She has a slightly modified rig with only two spars and less square sails on the main mast, making the gaff-sail bigger, yet she still is a brig."

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She was built to protect trading convoys, her sleek lines provide great manoeuvrability and mobility to reach any point of the convoy rapidly.
Her specialised targets are corsairs. Next to escort duty, she surely could go on the hunt for smugglers.
Though her armament of seven carronades each broadside plus two more astern were not meant for greater naval battles or situations, in which two ships fire at each other from a certain distance to damage rig and hull. But as a vessel, that comes in for the rescue, any Corrish or Altonian ship will be relieved to know of her support. From a short range her carronades will send their most devastating rain of iron chalazions and decimate the opponent crews.

I built her as a Class IV ship.
My stats suggestion:
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4  6  3  3 0 2

Some of her crew:
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I actually wanted to edit some of the pictures, but couldn't get decent background lighting for the greenscreen today.

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3 hours ago, Wellesley said:

The 14 gun Brigantine HMS Ymir 

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HMS YmirHMS Ymir

 

First off I've enjoyed watching this ship come together in the shipwrights thread

I think it really turned out well ... Youved packed alot of mostly accurate detail in this plus the rigging and sails is phenomenal.  I know you mentioned some displeasure reguarding the reef lines ... I've seen them done well just by drawing them on as well! But honestly even if you had left them off It would still look great!

Saying that I would like to include your vessel on the Classic Pirates page as well as a future front page post ... However your pictures are a little dark and off centered background makes them seem not framed well ... You mentioned working on better pictures ... If you can update your post with better pictures I would love to make that happen!

The three I quoted are really good angles the clarity is better on the two broadsides though.  

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Wow Man,

This ship Just Looks so great! The color sceeme, the rigging and the sails are phenomenal and really would buy Something Like that for my desk! I also think that those 14 cannons are Just right for the size and the Overall Shop does Not Look too overpacked. 

Greetings,

Timo :)

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She's beautiful. I think you've done a great job here. She's jot a Brigantine though. She's a brig, Brigantine is a different rig, similar but distinct. I appreciate the extra effort you put into your rigging especially. Looks good :thumbup:

 

Dave

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@kurigan Thank you! Thought, that one square sail (or more as long as they are above the gaff sail) on the main mast would classify her as a Brigantine and none would make her a Hermaphrodite Brig? At least according to how I came to understand the usage of the terminology back then. Or weren't you talking about the square sail? Would be nice, if you could share your insights on that. Would change it then. The name, not the rigging:D

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A brigantine and a hermaphrodite brig are really the same thing. The terms really come more form when and where than what. Schooners come from cutters which predate brigantines/hermaphrodites while brigs predate schooners. When hybrids between schooners and brigs came about the term hermaphrodite brig came in to use, kind of unofficially, sort of like "jackass frigate". Such a classification was never on the books of any navy or respectable shipping company, but everyone knew what it meant. Since it was and adaptation of a brig, the term became brigantine. If you wanted her to be a brigantine/hermaphrodite, you just need to change the main top sail to a gaff/lug style one, or strike it entirely. To us lubbers it may seem a slight distinction but to a seamen of the age it's a glaring difference.

 

Dave

 

Edit: Just thought of the example that explains it. It's like Cigar and Cigarette. A cigar is larger and came first. At some point the "ette" was added to indicate the smaller size of a similar, but distinct thing. It's the same with Bark (or barque) and Barkentine.

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That's a great brig. :pir-wub:

The rigging and sails are perfect for this scale and really fit the Brig aspect ! Congrats on that !

Just a question : Are the sails fonctionnal ? can you furl them for real with that rigging or not ?

The shape of the hull is good and shows enough curves to it. Good job !

All in all it's an excellent ship !

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Tremendous ship.. Can't imagine how long the rigging must've taken.. What material did you use on the sails? 

The colors of the ship and crew fit perfect in the total image. Great job

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@kurigan Once again thanks for the free informations. Changed the title and added a little story. Hope, I didn't accidentally added more stumbling blocks:P

9 hours ago, Faladrin said:

Are the sails fonctionnal ? can you furl them for real with that rigging or not ?

Yes, all rigging I included is functional in theory. But after belaying I used fabric glue and cut the lines. Even though they seem to hold quite well on their own, I was afraid they would loosen after time and I don't want to belay them again and again. If I find some time, I will maybe add some cioled up rope just to give a better impression. Like seen here:

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The Lipizzana and the Lydia are the only vessels so far with fully functional rigging as I have better access to the belaying pins and cleats and the amount of rope is manageable.

5 hours ago, Fraunces said:

Can't imagine how long the rigging must've taken.. What material did you use on the sails?

Uh yeah, I use it as a mix of ergotherapy and meditation:D Think it is close meshed cotton, maybe with a small portion of synthetics. It once was a tablecloth.

New pictures could take some more time than I thought, will not promise any date.

 

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To Jorin Farrensman, Shipwright

The HMS Ymir has been entered into the numbers of the Royal Navy and is currently undergoing trials outside Balondia. Initial reports indicate a very effective design and a very weatherly brig, quick in stays.

Payment has been transferred, and so far, the Royal Navy is most satisfied with the performance of your shipyards.

I am certain she will do the Farrensman shipyards, the Royal Navy, and Her Majesty proud.

At your service

Rear-admiral Fletcher

Commander-in-Chief, Royal Terra Novan Navy

 

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Excellent work, Wellesley! It has been great following your process, and I have to say, the result is stunning. I honestly think this is the best rigging I have ever seen on any Lego moc.The sails are great, as is the rigging itself. My only comment is that if you use thinner line for the shrouds than for the stays, it is easier to tighten it. The hull is great too! (And I really enjoy that it has a backstory)

As others have suggested, I think you can work a little more with your pictures - Even simple cropping can do a big difference. (Also, I can suggest buying a big roller blind in grey or white for background - cheap and easy!)

Great work!

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Beautiful ship. The Farrensman Family look like they’ll be a big name in ship design!

Looking at her, honestly, I wish someone would post a rigging tutorial with beginner, journeyman, expert levels! 

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A very beautiful looking ship. I'm not an expert on rigging but yours looks very impressive and it is obvious that many hours of tedious work went into getting it right. The colour scheme works really well and I love the blue ensign!  :thumbup: from me for GoC and I will take @Bregir's comment as a :thumbup: as well! I think our fleet is really going to benefit from having you aboard (pun intended!)

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23 hours ago, Bregir said:

I honestly think this is the best rigging I have ever seen on any Lego moc.

Thanky you very much for that compliment, Bregir! Though I would not (yet) put my work above the rigging of the Revenge.
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Good thing overall, that this isn't a competition and everyone who puts effort in it, does a great job. I try to beat myself though:D

Thank you @TomSkippy and @Professor Thaum! When rigging my frigate, I will take more pictures of the process and create a little turorial about it, if there is something new, that isn't already covered by one of the existing tutorials. For now I leave you with this guide.

And thank you @Ayrlego for the approval!

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18 hours ago, Wellesley said:

For now I leave you with this guide.

.... Man this just made me realised how little I actually know about rigging ....

Thank you for sharing honestly.  It is great info.  I notice it mentions several times starboard first.  Is there a reason for this? 

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@Roadmonkeytj I have no answer to that, other than it might be more clear, when having a set routine. I myself use other rules. I always belay the inner ropes first, and the outer ones according to their placement, so I never unnecessarily have rope getting in the way. If I rig starboard or portside first, depends on the position of the yards I intend, starting with the side, where there will be the tension.

In this case I first belayed the pins next to the mainmast on starboard, because here are the braces that pull the yards of the foremast back. On the other hand I belayed the pins next to the foremast first on portside, because here the braces would pull the yards of the mainmast forward.

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A fine ship you got here, Wellesly, the rigging and sails are astonishing, the custom made flags add also to the realism, the hull is nicely shaped, and the black and red work well for a corrish ship.

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Wonderful ship! While the hull is very nice, but quite standard, the rigging is definitely impressive! I think it's the best ship of this class I have ever seen

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This is a very nice ship. Sorry. This is a gorgeous ship! Love the use of the black on top of white hull parts. Looks so snazzy.

A couple questions. How did you get the sails to billow like that? are the starched, or is there a fan behind the scenes? And how did you make those shrouds? I want to do that for my current WIP ship, but have no ideas how to do it.

EKnight

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