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I am very excited about these. The figures are ok. I feel they don’t feel like minifigures that much but then again with regular heads they wouldn’t look like trolls. What I am more excited about is the Colors and I hope the sets are nice with prints and bright Colors. I am planning a angry birds/ toy story/ unikitty/ minions/ trolls mashup world diorama. 

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4 hours ago, Lego-Freak said:

The one with the cowboy hat is a centaur :wink:

Apologies, I managed to miss that one entirely. I can only guess that the license for Trolls was super cheap.

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Can't wait for endless possibilities with these sets... :drool:

All the characters in the Overwatch sets will be very confused when the bright colored sets sits right next to them, while Adventure Time and SpongeBob will fit right in!

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On 10/18/2019 at 10:52 AM, Lego-Freak said:

Abandon ship! AFOLs and TFOLs first! :head_back: 

Seriously though, these look rather creepy... Maybe they‘ll look less freakish under normal lighting conditions :shrug_oh_well:

If anything, they'll look worse. They barely even look lego, at least with the centaur and the one with hagrid arms.

21 hours ago, Terrasher said:

God is dead and TLG has killed him.

Yup.

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37 minutes ago, LuigiBobLegoPants said:

Can't wait for endless possibilities with these sets...

Like, what possibilities? I can bet you are going to have a hard time using those pieces outside of what they are supposed to be.

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8 hours ago, Megbricks said:

I am very excited about these. The figures are ok. I feel they don’t feel like minifigures that much but then again with regular heads they wouldn’t look like trolls. What I am more excited about is the Colors and I hope the sets are nice with prints and bright Colors. I am planning a angry birds/ toy story/ unikitty/ minions/ trolls mashup world diorama. 

Sounds perfect.

4 hours ago, Lego David said:

Like, what possibilities? I can bet you are going to have a hard time using those pieces outside of what they are supposed to be.

Me personally? They’ll be right at home in Cloud Cuckoo Land. (Yes I have my own CCL.)

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I haven't seen anyone else mention this, and I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the heads and hairpieces/hats could be separate pieces. There are a few pieces of evidence, the most obvious one being that for the Troll with the tall cowboy hat, the hat isn't pushed down all the way and there's a glimpse of what looks like studs. Coupled with that, the facts that all of them have the exact same head mould and two have the same hair in different colours, it seems to me like they're separate.

If they are truly separate pieces, that really opens up the versatility. The heads might not be so useful, but the wacky hair/hat moulds would be.

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37 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

I haven't seen anyone else mention this, and I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the heads and hairpieces/hats could be separate pieces. There are a few pieces of evidence, the most obvious one being that for the Troll with the tall cowboy hat, the hat isn't pushed down all the way and there's a glimpse of what looks like studs. Coupled with that, the facts that all of them have the exact same head mould and two have the same hair in different colours, it seems to me like they're separate.

If they are truly separate pieces, that really opens up the versatility. The heads might not be so useful, but the wacky hair/hat moulds would be.

Some mentioned that the stud on their head is not a regular stud, so the hairpieces wouldn't work on regular minifigure heads

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1 hour ago, Robert8 said:

Some mentioned that the stud on their head is not a regular stud, so the hairpieces wouldn't work on regular minifigure heads

Where was this mentioned?

I didn't say or think they'd fit on a minifigure head. It looks like it would be four studs on the top of their heads and four anti-studs on the hair pieces.

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I guess the reason so many AFOLs are upset is the amount of effort lego put into this, while giving for example the Super Heroes-Fans so little. The amount of outside the theme absulutely useless moulds is insane... especially if all these heads really consist of two parts.

A few examples: Theoden and Eomer got the same helmet mould. Thorin and Fili got the same hair piece as Kili which looks stupid without quiver.., and it was reused for Quinlan Vos in Star Wars again without quiver. Probably it will be reused again. A mould without hole for a quiver would have been perfectly justified. Dain reuses Dwalins beard and didn´t even get an own faceprint but Gloin´s. The Flintstones set left 3 figures of the ideas set away from the final product, didn´t use headmoulds (yeah, it is lego ideas... that doen´t mean you can´t make an exception for Fred and Barney when you are in charge of your own company and see how bad the product looks if you don´t) and used Standard legs for Barney while medium ones were available to destroy his proportions and make him as Big as Fred. Toy Story 4 could have given old fans at least Boo Beep. Instead standard minifigure legs and Arms were used for her as well as for Woody and Jessie, which made the figures look unrecognisable, too. Not even the existing moulded heads were reused. Buzz used Standard legs, too. So he became just as big as Woody. The new shepard staff looks terrible with the gigantic hook. Even Rex looks worse than before with this Bert-form-Sesame-Street-eyebrow-print. Goofy is just as big like Donald and Mickey. All have terrible proportions. Giving Goofy Long Toy Story limbs and a second version of Mickey/Donald the new medium sized legs would have been easy to do. Simpsons was well made but not continued because the Kwik-E-Market and Series 2 didn´t sell well enough while we still miss many extremely important characters.

Now Lego goes all in... with the Trolls theme that has figures that are just perfect representations of the characters - some of them with 2 or even 3 exclusive moulds per figure (i am not sure about the centaur piece). While they are perfect representations even the people that like them are aware that it probably will be successfull on the same level as angry birds and like i said - the parts will be useless in the future unlike many much needed minifigure moulds lego doesn´t produce while their absence hurts since years... I think it isn´t wrong to say that Lego put the most effort into the minifigures of the probably least successfull/popular/long living theme. I can´t understand that. That the faces of the figures look to me like they would have been ripped out of nightmares is the cherry on the cake to me.

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On 10/25/2019 at 10:21 PM, LuigiBobLegoPants said:

By looking at the pictures, I think it's confirmed the hair is removable, revealing the head having 2x2 studs...

@Clone OPatra I reckon this is the one :thumbup:

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I actually like the stuff what we saw. The figs look like fun. Great colours and fun characters. I hope kids will like them. That cowboy hat could be used for anything with a cowboy hat in its logo, a saloon, a las vegas casino, a rodeo, a horse ranch. 

However i find it hard to see that there is a centaur part now. It is goofy looking and not in sync with miniland figs, and I feel sad for all those fantasy afols that are waiting for centuries for a centaur :-s

Now about the reusability; there was a time lego was just bricks and plates. Minifigs didn’t have faces, no arms and movable legs. In this time and era we have so many parts. Also a lot of really specific parts. Even really specific minifigs. And in all different themes as well. A lot of those is hard to reuse as well. I’m not defending Trolls, but try to see the possibilities! I always love seeing Mocs using weird parts. 

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So there’s a leaked sticker sheet. A bunch, actually, but one of them specifically says ‘BARB’. Since Barb is the name of the movie’s main villain, and there was a revealed minifigure of her, we can assume it’s for a Trolls set. Interesting designs.

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16 hours ago, Borex said:

Now about the reusability; there was a time lego was just bricks and plates. Minifigs didn’t have faces, no arms and movable legs. In this time and era we have so many parts. Also a lot of really specific parts. Even really specific minifigs. And in all different themes as well. A lot of those is hard to reuse as well. I’m not defending Trolls, but try to see the possibilities! I always love seeing Mocs using weird parts. 

I love seeing MOCs that use weird parts too, but Man, I doubt I'll see those used elsewhere and still look good... Especially with those nightmarish faces.

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I have an unreasonable hatred for Trolls stemming from my childhood. Even as a kid I knew the truth. These are the ugliest, most hideous creatures/toys that exist. They belong in the Cabbage Patch or something. I'm annoyed by the mere existence of this franchis in Lego.

 

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I'm still waiting to see what the sets look like. The minifigures are useless to me, but I might still get the sets if heavily discounted like Angry Birds and they contain useful parts.

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“EwwwWwWWWw they’re uglyyyYyY!!1!1!11! I h8 u Lego!!!!”

there, I said it. Can I be a part of the cool kids club now that we all insulted perfectly fine looking figures from a theme none of you were even considering buying in the first place? The Trolls would look worse if they had their faces printed onto traditional head pieces. I personally think thy nailed the characters. They’re toys, remember? For kids. Kids are gonna go crazy now that they can mix and match Poppy with Batman and have them fight Buzz Lightyear together. No amount of whining from a bunch of adults who feel the need to criticize every action TLG does will change that. You still have your super epic manly Hulkbuster you can build. Trolls sets existing with their bright colors and cute pieces shouldn’t suddenly make you feel ashamed to like Lego or anything unless your masculinity is seriously that fragile. Grow up.

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On 10/25/2019 at 11:08 AM, TeriXeri said:

While it might bring some interesting parts/molds for future sets, no interest in the figures myself.

Looks too far off LEGO for me, even compared to Fabuland or Simpsons/Disney heads, maybe the colors contribute to that as well.

I dunno, I think that these manage to feel a lot more LEGO-like than a lot of previous molded heads in that the facial features (eyes, mouths, and noses) are printed rather than molded. Also as @LuigiBobLegoPants (that's one incredible screenname!) points out, the hair seems to be interchangeable. Look at the character in the cowboy hat… his hat isn't pressed on tightly and you can see what look to be four studs underneath, almost like the head of Mojo Jojo in the Powerpuff Girls sets.

Even the "bigfig" type character not only appears to have hair that attaches by studs just like the rest, but his design has a lot in common with the 2018 version of Hagrid: short legs, standard minifig hands, and the same bulked-up but otherwise plain looking arm mold.

On 10/26/2019 at 1:43 AM, Lego David said:

The figures look like complete garbage, to be honest. They clearly haven't learned from the disaster that was Angry Birds. They are doing Angry Birds all over again, but WORSE!

Was Angry Birds even a disaster, or is that just confirmation bias from people who expected it to fail in the first place? According to designer Samuel Johnson, Angry Birds did very well. And I trust his word a lot more than anecdotes about how it did in individual stores, considering that I've seen plenty of people try and cite similar anecdotes to claim that long-running themes like Star Wars, Ninjago, Friends, Super Heroes, Minecraft, or any number of other successful themes sell poorly.

On 10/27/2019 at 8:27 AM, Gorilla94 said:

I guess the reason so many AFOLs are upset is the amount of effort lego put into this, while giving for example the Super Heroes-Fans so little. The amount of outside the theme absulutely useless moulds is insane... especially if all these heads really consist of two parts.

Why is the number of new molds here "insane"? I've watched the video a few times and I can count 20 or so new molds among these ten characters. That's no more than the number of new molds from the 2011 Pirates of the Caribbean sets or 2012 Lord of the Rings sets. And it's a lot less than the over 40 new molds for the 2010 Toy Story sets, many of which were far less customization-friendly.

I might even be overcounting some of them, since I suspect several the decorative parts we see here like sunglasses or flowers probably come as an accessory pack with several different shapes produced by a single mold, like 35032, 36083, 37720, 40598, and 50018 from LEGO Super Heroes or 92355, 93080, 93081, 93082, 98393, and 49595 from LEGO Friends.

To you, the molds might seem "absolutely useless", but a lot of people might argue the same thing about IP-locked helmets, alien/droid pieces, etc. created for other licenses like Super Heroes and Star Wars. One way or another, with seven sets currently rumored, it shouldn't be hard for LEGO to get their money's worth out of a lot of these molds even just within this theme, as they have with IP-locked molds in so many other themes by this point.

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If Angry Birds had done that well they'd have made more of it, especially when Angry Birds 2 came out. That's how you tell if it was successful.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, InnerRayg said:

If Angry Birds had done that well they'd have made more of it, especially when Angry Birds 2 came out. That's how you tell if it was successful.

 

 

Not necessarily. Lego can’t license everything at once. I would not be surprised if with several huge movie licenses this year including The Lego Movie 2, Avengers Endgame, Toy Story 4, and (soon) The Rise of Skywalker, Lego had to pick and choose what to prioritize in their licensing portfolio for the year. Next year, on the other hand, there won’t be any new Star Wars or Lego movies, and Marvel will be returning to smaller-scale character-focused movies instead of the culmination of several movies’ worth of crossovers. So if the release dates to the Trolls and Angry Birds movies had been swapped it would not surprise me if we would have seen Angry Birds sets returning in place of this new theme.

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22 minutes ago, InnerRayg said:

If Angry Birds had done that well they'd have made more of it, especially when Angry Birds 2 came out. That's how you tell if it was successful.

Well, I'd trust the word of a designer over that of random people on the internet any day :wink: The designer even states himself that a one-off wave doesn't imply bad sales. There is a myriad of reasons why they didn't make sets based on the second installment. I've said it before and I'll say it again, unless we get official information - which we rarely do - all we have is mere guesswork. We simply lack the data to reach any conclusions, apart from reports of full shelves in individual stores. Sorry, but that sort of 'data' won't cut it :grin:

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2 hours ago, Aanchir said:

I dunno, I think that these manage to feel a lot more LEGO-like than a lot of previous molded heads in that the facial features (eyes, mouths, and noses) are printed rather than molded. Also as @LuigiBobLegoPants (that's one incredible screenname!) points out, the hair seems to be interchangeable. Look at the character in the cowboy hat… his hat isn't pressed on tightly and you can see what look to be four studs underneath, almost like the head of Mojo Jojo in the Powerpuff Girls sets.

Aaayy, Thanks, @Aanchir! Trying to get to 500 posts to change to my current username, but I'll might keep it. :laugh:

Also, thanks for reminding me to get that Mojo Jojo minifig. He seems hard to get... :wacko:

1 hour ago, Lyichir said:

Not necessarily. Lego can’t license everything at once. I would not be surprised if with several huge movie licenses this year including The Lego Movie 2, Avengers Endgame, Toy Story 4, and (soon) The Rise of Skywalker, Lego had to pick and choose what to prioritize in their licensing portfolio for the year. Next year, on the other hand, there won’t be any new Star Wars or Lego movies, and Marvel will be returning to smaller-scale character-focused movies instead of the culmination of several movies’ worth of crossovers. So if the release dates to the Trolls and Angry Birds movies had been swapped it would not surprise me if we would have seen Angry Birds sets returning in place of this new theme.

How much is LEGO allowed in having movie licensing in their slots? 5-6?

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On 10/28/2019 at 2:40 AM, BrickG said:

I have an unreasonable hatred for Trolls stemming from my childhood. Even as a kid I knew the truth. These are the ugliest, most hideous creatures/toys that exist. They belong in the Cabbage Patch or something. I'm annoyed by the mere existence of this franchis in Lego.

 

Really? As a child growing up in thr 90s I loved Trolls and had many. I only have one original troll from the 90s left. I love them. These troll minifigures are great.

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