astral brick Posted February 19, 2020 13 hours ago, Toastie said: More than one year and 24 pages later ... Time for an intermediate result/executive summary: Rotfl! The charme of forums, the heterogeneity of thinking. Anyway now I better understand why, according to another message, Lego pr dont participate to this forum anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lego David Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Maple said: Here's an idea, LEGO Sci-fi Space no longer sells. That simple. Alien Conquest last one year, it was supposed to last two. The whole second wave of which was canceled because of poor sales. Power Rangers in Space, I mean Galaxy Squad only lasted one year too. That's kinda the way LEGO Space has always been though. Introduce a new subtheme that lasts for one year or two at most, and then replace it with something else. It's not that those themes weren't selling, it's just the way they were planned to play out. There isn't any reasonable evidence to suggest that lack of sales is the the reason those themes got cancelled. Edited February 19, 2020 by Lego David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karalora Posted February 19, 2020 @Toastie Just wanted to say, nice HHG reference! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotoAndLego Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 4:48 AM, jonwil said: Come on LEGO, give me a ship that is as awesome as ships like the legendary Deep Freeze Defender and I will buy it day one and I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this way. IMO, the last big cool spaceship was 5974 Glactic Enforcer in 2009, but I liked the Same Police 3 sets not to mention the Alien Conquest stuff was super cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medzomorak Posted February 19, 2020 51 minutes ago, gotoAndLego said: IMO, the last big cool spaceship was 5974 Glactic Enforcer in 2009, but I liked the Same Police 3 sets not to mention the Alien Conquest stuff was super cool. I think the new Space Police was all over Space Opera instead of Sci-fi Space. There's a huge difference. Just take a look at that alien space-motorride. That is some +6 cartoon level. Also humans being the only peacekeepers gave a bit of an imperialist ubermensch feeling to the theme. That's a space opera cliché again. I'd take the Blade Runner vibe Space Police I lineup anytime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeriXeri Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I also prefer those more angled shapes over the round ones when it comes to Space Police. Nexo Knights came closer to that in recent times with the cockpit pieces it used, while not the exact same shape (more triangular) it still looks very retro compared to rounded windshields. Also the "space type wheels" helped giving it a more retro look on most land vehicles. I hope they someday relaunch this part with the newer bar/clip connection : Edited February 19, 2020 by TeriXeri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lego David Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Medzomorak said: I think the new Space Police was all over Space Opera instead of Sci-fi Space. There's a huge difference. Just take a look at that alien space-motorride. That is some +6 cartoon level. Also humans being the only peacekeepers gave a bit of an imperialist ubermensch feeling to the theme. That's a space opera cliché again. I'd take the Blade Runner vibe Space Police I lineup anytime. Well, love it or hate it, this is the way modern LEGO Space looks. And if it will ever come back, it probably wouldn't be any different. Trust me, I love vintage space as much as you do... But personally, I would much rather have a Space theme like Space Police than no Space theme at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asajki Posted February 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Lego David said: Well, love it or hate it, this is the way modern LEGO Space looks. And if it will ever come back, it probably wouldn't be any different. Trust me, I love vintage space as much as you do... But personally, I would much rather have a Space theme like Space Police than no Space theme at all. I agree with David here, Lego don’t rerelease sets, and it’s foolish to believe that 3 hours ago, astral brick said: Anyway now I better understand why, according to another message, Lego pr dont participate to this forum anymore. Ugh, can you imagine if they did? They’d be spammed with messages to cancel anything licensed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toastie Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Karalora said: Just wanted to say, nice HHG reference! @Karalora you know, Douglas Adams keeps me alive in this world. Particularly with his Trilogy of four books ... Just returning from a dissertation defense, where I happened to be the chair of the committee. Believe me, it always raises the spirits when you ask the candidate about his towel and a few pints of beer afterwards ... All the best, Thorsten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medzomorak Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Asajki said: I agree with David here, Lego don’t rerelease sets, and it’s foolish to believe that No one was talking about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danth Posted February 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Lego David said: That's kinda the way LEGO Space has always been though. Introduce a new subtheme that lasts for one year or two at most, and then replace it with something else. It's not that those themes weren't selling, it's just the way they were planned to play out. There isn't any reasonable evidence to suggest that lack of sales is the the reason those themes got cancelled. Totally agree. Space not selling? Try finding Benny's Space Squad anywhere! It's the only set I never see anymore in stores. Every single set goes on sale if you wait long enough. I see licensed (including SW) sets on sale all the time. Mark downs don't prove anything. Neither does a theme only lasting a few years, like you said. This is just a made up nonsense argument backed up by nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toastie Posted February 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, danth said: This is just a made up nonsense argument backed up by nothing OK. Well - exactly your very bold statement holds true for 7 hours ago, Lego David said: it's just the way they were planned to play out. It is the same type of nonsense argument backed up by nothing. Other than your personal observations. Or observations of a few. I wonder where you guys get your input from - to make such bold statements. Really interesting. You must have deep connections way into the company, and/or supernatural observation, analysis, and conclusion powers. Before I write "made up nonsense argument" in any public room I better know for sure what kind of nonsense that is. You may be - I doubt that though. Whatever. Best Thorsten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medzomorak Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Lego David said: There isn't any reasonable evidence to suggest that lack of sales is the the reason those themes got cancelled. We won't have any evidence for anything until TLG chooses to give us some insight about their business methods. Until then I'll be pragmatic and conclude if something does not sell they're just pulling the plug. I do believe they are operating things as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toastie Posted February 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Medzomorak said: We won't have any evidence for anything until TLG chooses to give us some insight about their business methods. That is what I wanted to convey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger of Bricks Posted February 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Medzomorak said: I think the new Space Police was all over Space Opera instead of Sci-fi Space. There's a huge difference. Just take a look at that alien space-motorride. That is some +6 cartoon level. Also humans being the only peacekeepers gave a bit of an imperialist ubermensch feeling to the theme. That's a space opera cliché again. While I too wouldn't wish to see that "imperialist ubermensch" trope carry on over, I personally still wish to see a Space theme that fully embraces most of those old-fashioned Space Opera clichés even more so than Space Police III had done, especially in its overall tone and aesthetic style. I mean, would anyone here strongly object to an honest-to-goodness Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers inspired Space theme that's not Star Wars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brick Boss Posted July 31, 2020 While it's not a full theme, I'd say the town subtheme for City. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JintaiZ Posted October 6, 2020 Tough question... but I'd go with Trolls... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brick Boss Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) What about Overwatch or Hidden Side? Edited October 6, 2020 by Brandon Pea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JintaiZ Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Brandon Pea said: What about Overwatch or Hidden Side? Hidden Side and Overwatch are already ending... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Brick Boss Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, JintaiZ said: Hidden Side and Overwatch are already ending... I guess I should've figured that because I barely hear about them and there has been a log of talk about how they didn't sell well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JintaiZ Posted October 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said: I guess I should've figured that because I barely hear about them and there has been a log of talk about how they didn't sell well. Hidden side sold fine in my opinions... though it's not a theme I particularly like or care about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lego David Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, JintaiZ said: Tough question... but I'd go with Trolls... Don't worry... Trolls was intended as just a one-off theme meant to make a quick buck. The line is gonna be completely retired before the end of the year. 1 hour ago, Brandon Pea said: What about Overwatch or Hidden Side? Overwatch already ended last year, and Hidden Side just got it's final wave of sets this summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JintaiZ Posted October 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, Lego David said: Don't worry... Trolls was intended as just a one-off theme meant to make a quick buck. The line is gonna be completely retired before the end of the year. Great... let's just hope it doesn't revive... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonwil Posted October 7, 2020 I think the real problem for LEGO in regards to Space is that they don't want to do too much with it or have too many cool sets around because it would take sales away from their overpriced Star Wars line. I bought the entire Alien Conquest line (which was very awesome) and a few of the Space Police sets (wishing I had been able to pick up that large base but I never did). Galaxy Squad was crap. I also bought both the Spaceship Spaceship SPACESHIP! and the Space Squad. The last Star Wars set I bought was the 4+ A-Wing and that was bought on deep discount and only for parts (I wanted the pilot torso/legs for a fighter jet MOC) but I wouldn't have bought it without the deep discount because I think Star Wars is overpriced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lego David Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, jonwil said: Galaxy Squad was crap What are you talking about? Galaxy Squad was AWESOME. The sets and minifigures were fantastic IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
