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Laesonar's Saga Ep. 8 - Laelariel City Hall

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Laesonar's Saga Episode 8 - Laelariel City Hall

 

 

A veil of sadness crossed Jeffrey's mind as he started to climb up the cobblestone while listening to Sir Humborth's words. 

 "… and after hearing of the unfortunate disappearance of the Lord of Laelariel as well as his heirs, I was sent here from Albion to investigate the possibility of nominating a new Lord for these lands. I've just arrived with a small escort. Unfortunately, the place isn't exactly swarming with life.. " 

 Armin nodded "I understand, Sir Humborth. Which is why you need the last Lord's will and testament and those other documents." 

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 Jeffrey pointed to the building above them "Here. This used to be our city hall. We used to have messengers, ravens, horses and so many documents that we had started the plan to build a library... " He sighed "Now there's only my office inside. Not that I've had much to write lately... but we kept the whole building in order as well as all of the documents. You might be able to find what you need here, my Lords." 

 Armin smiled satisfied "Thank you for allowing us too, Mr. Von Jeff. My order is sworn to preserve the natural order of things and it seems to me that this city wasn't meant to end like this, so I'd like to investigate a bit." 

 "It's my pleasure, master Paladin. We shall accept any sort of help that we're offered." 

 "Very well then, first things first: history. Why does the city have an elvish name, for example. Laesonar, aren't you curious?" 

 ….. 

 "Laesonar?" 

 The half-elf was nearby, but... "Ahem... Yes, yes, master Paladin, you lead the way." 

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Here, guys & gals, bigger build, shorter episode ^^  I've started this build before reading the HSS rules, by which a City Hall isn't required for a Hamlet.. oh well, I guess it'll count later on then :sweet: Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the result, though I'm afraid my horrible photography skills don't make it justice, especially the bigger roof.. :hmpf_bad: I'm still messing up with the lighting and the editing, I've even forgot to crop it! :iamded_lol: I'm unsure of a few other things, yet my main focus here was the palette.. which I'm also still unsure about :grin: But I'll leave the C&C to you guys - thanks for looking!

 

@mccoyed sorry about the central alignement again! I'm afraid I've come to like it.. :grin:

@Basiliscus @TitusV More blue, as I promised :tongue:

 

Edit: next episode

 

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What a great build!  I think it really works that you wrote the story without the distraction of the larger build, then put the large build at the end.  Hilarious story, by the way. :-)  I love the color pallette.  It's obvious to me that you spent a lot of time thinking about it.  The blues are amazing.  I really like their incorporation, especially in the top of the Tudor structure.  I think the building really looks great, too--it looks like an older building that has been ravaged by time and war but maintained by caring hands.  I appreciate that you can make a building look old and worn without going to an overly textured surface.  I am really enjoying reading the story and seeing all your builds!

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As I wrote on Flickr, this is just incredible! :wub: While this being one of all time my favorite MOCs, there’s something I’m not really sure about: the distribution of different colors on the roof. But the rest is so brilliant that it almost doesn’t bother me at all! Keep the amazing work up! :classic: :thumbup:

 

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Wonderful build the blue really pops in the city hall.  I like the tudor styling of the hall.  The roofs are very nice.  The landscaping compliments the building well makes the scene flow well.  The story is interesting as well.  Great job.  

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This is a stunning MOC! I really like the blue, it works well with the light bley and the brown. The architecture is amazing, love the doors at different heights and the steps up to the entrance, looks very natural. The landscaping is really well done overall, my only nitpick is the regular tan is a little bright for an otherwise muted colour palette.

I had a look at the photos on Flickr, and I know you've said you're not totally happy with them so here's a few thoughts as to how they can be improved.

The reason the overall shot is blurry is because it doesn't have sufficient depth of field - generally, you want to take photos of LEGO with a reasonable F-stop (say f/8) and a low ISO (100 if possible) and let the exposure time be as long as possible. As long as the camera is stable the long exposure won't matter. If you share details of the camera you are using I'd be happy to help via PM, up to you.

Lastly, Flickr allows (or it did, I haven't tried for a while) you to replace photos without affecting the comments, so if you still have the MOC you can take new photos and replace the ones you are not happy with.

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Really nice color scheme of the blues and grays that makes it stand out.  I'm curious as to what makes the blue patches in the walls though? Local blue stone or some blueish moss?

The structure is lovely, tall and imposing. Big enough to be a believable working building.

I also like how you incorporated the fish shields into the walls and the local and avalonian flags flying in the breeze.

Looking forward to seeing more of Laelariel.

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That's really striking and awesome! The roofs are sweet, I especially like the use of the m flesh or whatever, it looks so nice, oddly enough.  Well done making the little windows, big windows, and awesome doors all in the right places, the only thing I would suggest really, aside from photography :laugh: , is that you do different landscape.  Some bright green color would pop so much more than the tan which frankly is ugly. And maybe a tree would be awesome too, something along those lines anyway!  Well done.

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That blue! :wub_drool:  How could you hid the full picture of this thing in a spoiler? :grin:  Gorgeous build, man - very nice layout of the buildings, and excellent idea to use the blue again!  The blue Tudor and the roof on that part is probably my favorite section of the build, but the other Tudor section, the doors, and the tower are all quite fabulous as well :thumbup:  If there's one thing I could critique it'd be the landscaping - the colors there just look thrown around a bit randomly (the light tan especially), and the large dark tan areas might be able to use a bit more variation - a few tiles or smaller plates or patches of lighter sand or something.  That's just to nitpick on this otherwise wonderful build, though - keep it up! :sweet:

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Oh my, very well done! The shaping of the building is excellent! Those rooves are great, and that tudor is incredible, the blue color texturing is just great. It isn't my favorite in the stonework, maybe just a hint of a different blue along with the med. blue in the stonework. Overall looks great though!

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Great work, loving the blue scattered here and there and overall it's just a really nice building! I agree with @W Navarre that the ground might "pop" a little more with some other shades of green but that might also be because the picture itself is a little bright. Like I already told you on Flickr (and like you already mentioned) the photography unfortunately doens't do the build justice. But regardless of that, it's a really stunning build so great job!

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A fantastic MOC! The use of the blues is of course a stand out feature (although I'm still not sure if I think the use of the blue in the stone work is genius or madness...!) however, there is so much more to like. The architecture is superb and I think you've managed to get a good balance between texture and smoothness with the walls. The tudor sections are very well done and the way you have tiled the roofs is great (although again I'm not sure about the blue - but that's probably a personal thing). The landscape is brilliant, it is so hard to get good depth in the landscaping yet you've definitely achieved it here; especially in the path leading up to the doorway. Unlike some of the others, I actually quite like the use of the regular tan in the landscaping. I think dark tan in these areas would have been too much and would not have provided enough contrast. Any other greens I think would have clashed with the rest of the scheme. While the tan may be a little on the bright side, in my opinion it works here! Great job!

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The blue works so well here!  And really good work with the roofs too, I quite like the change from brown to med. flesh.

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A lovely solid build en_zoo! :thumbup: The different blues really pop and i think they mesh really well with the olive vegetation. It's eye catching for sure! 

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This is excellent, and definitely the best work you have shown here on the Guilds. The building is not overly complex, but still interesting with its different wings, levels, and windows. I also appreciate the level of texture - enough to show some wear, but not so much that one would hesitate to enter the building for fear of collapse. I love the blue, in all its hues and uses, and I hope you continue to develop the use of it; the guilds could use some "unnatural" colors here and there, and your moss fits the bill perfectly. I am also a big fan of the roof technique you used here. My main critique is that you need to spend more time and effort on the photography, because that is holding the build back from true excellence. This is pretty darn good stuff, but the pics, especially the main one, don't do it justice and that's a shame. Another critique is that your irregular base is too regular, with very straight lines in places, like in the front left of the picture. All that said, keep up the good work! If this is what you are cranking out these days, keep cranking! I want to see more stuff like this. 

Oh, and good story, too! Laesonar always seems to have an eye out for the pretty ladies...

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On 11/18/2018 at 7:11 PM, Grover said:

What a great build!  I think it really works that you wrote the story without the distraction of the larger build, then put the large build at the end.  Hilarious story, by the way. :-)  I love the color pallette.  It's obvious to me that you spent a lot of time thinking about it.  The blues are amazing.  I really like their incorporation, especially in the top of the Tudor structure.  I think the building really looks great, too--it looks like an older building that has been ravaged by time and war but maintained by caring hands.  I appreciate that you can make a building look old and worn without going to an overly textured surface.  I am really enjoying reading the story and seeing all your builds!

Thanks Grover! The blues were an experiment, which I think had successful outcome. I'm really glad you like the amount of texture in the wall, as I think I might have found my balance with it (from too little to too much, now looks fine). Good to know that you're reading along, I do feel honoured :sweet:

On 11/18/2018 at 7:27 PM, LegoModularFan said:

As I wrote on Flickr, this is just incredible! :wub: While this being one of all time my favorite MOCs, there’s something I’m not really sure about: the distribution of different colors on the roof. But the rest is so brilliant that it almost doesn’t bother me at all! Keep the amazing work up! :classic: :thumbup:

 

Oh my! One of your favs! I'm flattered indeed! :blush: And that's a good point actually, I was hoping the blend of colours on the roof would turn out better that that. Must say though, it was better than in the pic :grin:

On 11/18/2018 at 11:10 PM, zoth33 said:

Wonderful build the blue really pops in the city hall.  I like the tudor styling of the hall.  The roofs are very nice.  The landscaping compliments the building well makes the scene flow well.  The story is interesting as well.  Great job.  

Thank you, Zoth! It's nice to hear :sweet:

On 11/19/2018 at 4:14 AM, The Last of Nergoue said:

Very nice moc, i love the way you did the roof with the differing colors!

Thank you, that part I had planned from the very beginning ^^

On 11/19/2018 at 11:46 AM, MaasEffekt said:

Very nice building, and beautiful colors, and shapes! Congrats! :classic:

Thanks Maas, I'm glad you like it! :sweet:

On 11/19/2018 at 12:01 PM, Basiliscus said:

This is a stunning MOC! I really like the blue, it works well with the light bley and the brown. The architecture is amazing, love the doors at different heights and the steps up to the entrance, looks very natural. The landscaping is really well done overall, my only nitpick is the regular tan is a little bright for an otherwise muted colour palette.

I had a look at the photos on Flickr, and I know you've said you're not totally happy with them so here's a few thoughts as to how they can be improved.

The reason the overall shot is blurry is because it doesn't have sufficient depth of field - generally, you want to take photos of LEGO with a reasonable F-stop (say f/8) and a low ISO (100 if possible) and let the exposure time be as long as possible. As long as the camera is stable the long exposure won't matter. If you share details of the camera you are using I'd be happy to help via PM, up to you.

Lastly, Flickr allows (or it did, I haven't tried for a while) you to replace photos without affecting the comments, so if you still have the MOC you can take new photos and replace the ones you are not happy with.

Thank you, Bas! It's really nice to hear you like the blue, as last time you weren't very convinced. I've replaced the pic on Flickr with a cropped one (so, yes Flickr still does that). Let us get to the photography point - I really appreciate your tips and I'd love to steal more info from you, but truth is.. ahem.. well I only have my phone, no camera.. reckon that's the problem? :grin::blush: there's this friend of mine who insists I should get myself a real camera.. say, don't you have an advice for a decent model I could get myself? Xmas is almost here after all.. I used to have one but never even got to the amateur level, so it'd have to be something relatively user-friendly. Any ideas?

On 11/19/2018 at 1:17 PM, Muakhah said:

Really nice color scheme of the blues and grays that makes it stand out.  I'm curious as to what makes the blue patches in the walls though? Local blue stone or some blueish moss?

The structure is lovely, tall and imposing. Big enough to be a believable working building.

I also like how you incorporated the fish shields into the walls and the local and avalonian flags flying in the breeze.

Looking forward to seeing more of Laelariel.

Thanks Muakhah! The blue in the wall is a local blue moss called Agerat, that I introduced here (last episode). Or at least that's the best excuse I found to justify that blue.. :grin:

On 11/19/2018 at 2:47 PM, W Navarre said:

That's really striking and awesome! The roofs are sweet, I especially like the use of the m flesh or whatever, it looks so nice, oddly enough.  Well done making the little windows, big windows, and awesome doors all in the right places, the only thing I would suggest really, aside from photography :laugh: , is that you do different landscape.  Some bright green color would pop so much more than the tan which frankly is ugly. And maybe a tree would be awesome too, something along those lines anyway!  Well done.

Really glad you like it, J., and good to hear from you and even better if here on GoH! I willingly avoided the brighter greens to follow with the story - the city and the whole area are currently suffering from a drought. I wanted to add a small, dried-up tree nonetheless, but I've run out of olive green leaf pieces with those few bushes.. :grin: As for the tan, I wanted to make the 'borders' of the cobblestone with it, but I agree with you that it didn't turn out well. Photography is another long story.. :grin::blush:

On 11/19/2018 at 3:24 PM, Garmadon said:

That blue! :wub_drool:  How could you hid the full picture of this thing in a spoiler? :grin:  Gorgeous build, man - very nice layout of the buildings, and excellent idea to use the blue again!  The blue Tudor and the roof on that part is probably my favorite section of the build, but the other Tudor section, the doors, and the tower are all quite fabulous as well :thumbup:  If there's one thing I could critique it'd be the landscaping - the colors there just look thrown around a bit randomly (the light tan especially), and the large dark tan areas might be able to use a bit more variation - a few tiles or smaller plates or patches of lighter sand or something.  That's just to nitpick on this otherwise wonderful build, though - keep it up! :sweet:

Thank you, Garmy, good to hear your C&Cs! Glad you like the persistence of the blue (I suspect there's more to come.. :tongue:) as well as the other details. As for the landscape.. it wasn't exactly random, but I added it at the end when I was starting to get impatient to complete the whole thing, so.. ahem.. well you kind of caught me there :blush::head_back:

On 11/19/2018 at 4:40 PM, TheLordOfBricks said:

Oh my, very well done! The shaping of the building is excellent! Those rooves are great, and that tudor is incredible, the blue color texturing is just great. It isn't my favorite in the stonework, maybe just a hint of a different blue along with the med. blue in the stonework. Overall looks great though!

Thanks LoB! You mean you'd see well another type of blue, in addition to the med.blue, in the stonework?

On 11/19/2018 at 5:59 PM, adde51 said:

Great work, loving the blue scattered here and there and overall it's just a really nice building! I agree with @W Navarre that the ground might "pop" a little more with some other shades of green but that might also be because the picture itself is a little bright. Like I already told you on Flickr (and like you already mentioned) the photography unfortunately doens't do the build justice. But regardless of that, it's a really stunning build so great job!

Thankyou, Adde. As I mentioned to WNavarre, I went with the story and as the area is suffering from a drought, I didn't use any brighter green. I agree, though, that there's something wrong or missing with the landscape. As for the photography.. ahem.. *goes and hides* :blush:

On 11/20/2018 at 7:50 AM, Ayrlego said:

A fantastic MOC! The use of the blues is of course a stand out feature (although I'm still not sure if I think the use of the blue in the stone work is genius or madness...!) however, there is so much more to like. The architecture is superb and I think you've managed to get a good balance between texture and smoothness with the walls. The tudor sections are very well done and the way you have tiled the roofs is great (although again I'm not sure about the blue - but that's probably a personal thing). The landscape is brilliant, it is so hard to get good depth in the landscaping yet you've definitely achieved it here; especially in the path leading up to the doorway. Unlike some of the others, I actually quite like the use of the regular tan in the landscaping. I think dark tan in these areas would have been too much and would not have provided enough contrast. Any other greens I think would have clashed with the rest of the scheme. While the tan may be a little on the bright side, in my opinion it works here! Great job!

Ayrlego, your C&Cs are really interesting! Thought I didn't manage to get what I have in mind, I actually used light tan exactly because I wanted it to contrast with the cobblestone - I wanted to 'mark' where the cobblestone ends and there would probably be a bit of 'sandy dirt' or something on that line, so it's interesting that you mention it. I agree that dark tan wouldn't work. I thought (later) that maybe something like flesh or DMF could have worked better than tan, or maybe I should just lay the bricks in another way.. As for the blue being genius or madness, I asked myself the same! :head_back: Time will tell, I guess..

On 11/21/2018 at 12:36 AM, Kai NRG said:

The blue works so well here!  And really good work with the roofs too, I quite like the change from brown to med. flesh.

Thanks Kai, glad you like that - I think Im gonna use it again ^^

On 11/22/2018 at 5:16 AM, Gabe said:

A lovely solid build en_zoo! :thumbup: The different blues really pop and i think they mesh really well with the olive vegetation. It's eye catching for sure! 

Thank you, Gabe. Good to hear from you! :sweet:

23 hours ago, Henjin_Quilones said:

This is excellent, and definitely the best work you have shown here on the Guilds. The building is not overly complex, but still interesting with its different wings, levels, and windows. I also appreciate the level of texture - enough to show some wear, but not so much that one would hesitate to enter the building for fear of collapse. I love the blue, in all its hues and uses, and I hope you continue to develop the use of it; the guilds could use some "unnatural" colors here and there, and your moss fits the bill perfectly. I am also a big fan of the roof technique you used here. My main critique is that you need to spend more time and effort on the photography, because that is holding the build back from true excellence. This is pretty darn good stuff, but the pics, especially the main one, don't do it justice and that's a shame. Another critique is that your irregular base is too regular, with very straight lines in places, like in the front left of the picture. All that said, keep up the good work! If this is what you are cranking out these days, keep cranking! I want to see more stuff like this. 

Oh, and good story, too! Laesonar always seems to have an eye out for the pretty ladies...

Thanks HQ, I always enjoy reading your C&Cs. Really glad you appreciate the texture balance as well as the blue-thing - they're 2 things I intend to keep on using and it's nice to know you find the latter as a nice contribution to the guilds, even if it's unnatural :sweet: Same goes for the roof technique - it's nothing special, but it's my fav :grin_wub: As for photography.. what can I say? I do have a prob with it at the moment. I don't like having to do it, don't enjoy when the time comes, even slow down building speed when the end of a build approaches to kind of avoid doing it for as long as possible! :oh: So, overall, I feel like it's holding me back, from different points of view :hmpf_bad::sceptic: Oh well, I do have a couple of ideas to try and improve it.. Getting myself a real camera and avoid using my phone alltogether might be a good one, for example.. :tongue:

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Yes @en_zoo, that is what I meant, I think it would be cool to add another color blue in with the stonework, since the tudor is color textured. And it would add a little flare to the blue hints of the stonework. Maybe sand blue, or even a lighter blue than med. blue like light aqua of something. Just a small plate in every once in a while.

Overall, really good work!!! :)

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1 minute ago, TheLordOfBricks said:

Yes @en_zoo, that is what I meant, I think it would be cool to add another color blue in with the stonework, since the tudor is color textured. And it would add a little flare to the blue hints of the stonework. Maybe sand blue, or even a lighter blue than med. blue like light aqua of something. Just a small plate in every once in a while.

Overall, really good work!!! :)

Oh my! Now that's an intriguing suggestion! Thanks man, I'll definitely give it a thought!

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42 minutes ago, en_zoo said:

As for photography.. what can I say? I do have a prob with it at the moment. I don't like having to do it, don't enjoy when the time comes, even slow down building speed when the end of a build approaches to kind of avoid doing it for as long as possible! :oh:So, overall, I feel like it's holding me back, from different points of view :hmpf_bad::sceptic:

What if you took a different approach? It’s that way you share your great MOCs with all of us, get all the C&C and get featured on blogs like the Brothers Brick!

42 minutes ago, en_zoo said:

Oh my! One of your favs! I'm flattered indeed! :blush: And that's a good point actually, I was hoping the blend of colours on the roof would turn out better that that. Must say though, it was better than in the pic :grin:

Never mind, it really grew on me since, it kind of looks marbled and I love it! You’re definitely in the way of becoming one of the greatest MOCers, can’t wait to see more from you! :classic:

P.S. Congrats for the very well deserved TBB feature! :excited:

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4 hours ago, en_zoo said:

Thank you, Bas! It's really nice to hear you like the blue, as last time you weren't very convinced. I've replaced the pic on Flickr with a cropped one (so, yes Flickr still does that). Let us get to the photography point - I really appreciate your tips and I'd love to steal more info from you, but truth is.. ahem.. well I only have my phone, no camera.. reckon that's the problem? :grin::blush: there's this friend of mine who insists I should get myself a real camera.. say, don't you have an advice for a decent model I could get myself? Xmas is almost here after all.. I used to have one but never even got to the amateur level, so it'd have to be something relatively user-friendly. Any ideas?

Well, I did like the blue last time I just felt with it in the walls and building it was a bit overpowering. It's less so here since it's all part of the same building.

It depends on what kind of phone you have - I think I saw from the original EXIF data on Flickr you had a Samsung Galaxy J3 - if so then this guide is a good starting point. Ideally you want to be able to manually set the aperture and ISO manually, leaving the exposure time being set by the camera.

I use a Nikon D3300 (I used Amazon.de since I believe you're partially based in Germany) which gives full control - if you're feeling flush the latest model in this line is the D3500 but it's a little more expensive. Depends how deep Santa's pockets are? :grin:

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On 11/23/2018 at 5:23 PM, LegoModularFan said:

 

What if you took a different approach? It’s that way you share your great MOCs with all of us, get all the C&C and get featured on blogs like the Brothers Brick!

Never mind, it really grew on me since, it kind of looks marbled and I love it! You’re definitely in the way of becoming one of the greatest MOCers, can’t wait to see more from you! :classic:

P.S. Congrats for the very well deserved TBB feature! :excited:

I do need to approach it differently.. time will tell. And hey you do flatter me, ModularFan! Now I'm scared of new buildings as they'll definitely be disappointing! :grin:

On 11/23/2018 at 9:37 PM, Basiliscus said:

Well, I did like the blue last time I just felt with it in the walls and building it was a bit overpowering. It's less so here since it's all part of the same building.

It depends on what kind of phone you have - I think I saw from the original EXIF data on Flickr you had a Samsung Galaxy J3 - if so then this guide is a good starting point. Ideally you want to be able to manually set the aperture and ISO manually, leaving the exposure time being set by the camera.

I use a Nikon D3300 (I used Amazon.de since I believe you're partially based in Germany) which gives full control - if you're feeling flush the latest model in this line is the D3500 but it's a little more expensive. Depends how deep Santa's pockets are? :grin:

Yes, that's my phone - I'll definitely start with that guide to approach those aspects you mentioned. As for the camera, coincidence wants that to yours the same camera this friend of mine uses.. I think I'd rather go for something digital (and cheaper :grin:) to get me going, then see how it goes. All of your tips are much appreciated, Bas, thanks - I'll try and put them to good use!

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Fantastic building composition with the various additions, roof-lines, timber sections, and doorways :thumbup: The blue accents look great with bley walls, as do your layered tile roofs.
One small detail that I'm not sure I've seen others include before, is the scorch marks on the wall behind torch sconces. Very nice touch.

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Wonderful build and I can't really add anything new to the comments on it, but I did want to say that I share your feelings about photography. Actually taking pictures makes me pretty anxious and I often take way too many and they still turn out not to be the right ones. I haven't quite mastered the art of building things with photography in mind, so I often find that my angles are poorly set up for photos by showing interiors or bits that break the "illusion" of a tableau. I do think I've gotten yards better at taking clear photos and sprucing them up in GIMP and Photoshop, but I still don't love doing it. It's time consuming and I often feel like my pictures don't capture the best things about my builds, particularly small details I hide here and there.

Always working on it, though. Just want to show you some solidarity!

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On 12/2/2018 at 2:58 PM, soccerkid6 said:

Fantastic building composition with the various additions, roof-lines, timber sections, and doorways :thumbup: The blue accents look great with bley walls, as do your layered tile roofs.
One small detail that I'm not sure I've seen others include before, is the scorch marks on the wall behind torch sconces. Very nice touch.

Thank you, SK, glad you like it :sweet: And yes, I suddently thought it wouldn't make much sense having those torches without marks on the wall - guess the result was a bit too 'squared' though :tongue:

On 12/2/2018 at 7:30 PM, mccoyed said:

Wonderful build and I can't really add anything new to the comments on it, but I did want to say that I share your feelings about photography. Actually taking pictures makes me pretty anxious and I often take way too many and they still turn out not to be the right ones. I haven't quite mastered the art of building things with photography in mind, so I often find that my angles are poorly set up for photos by showing interiors or bits that break the "illusion" of a tableau. I do think I've gotten yards better at taking clear photos and sprucing them up in GIMP and Photoshop, but I still don't love doing it. It's time consuming and I often feel like my pictures don't capture the best things about my builds, particularly small details I hide here and there.

Always working on it, though. Just want to show you some solidarity!

Hey thanks, Mccoyed! It's very good to know I'm not the only one struggling with it, really --> thanks for the solidarity, it's much appreciated! Working on it too, let us win this challenge!

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