Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[MAB]

On 8/5/2024 at 7:38 PM, Blazej_Holen said:

Bag End and Helms Deep was already done decade ago. And from what we know, they would go with the path of other unreleased never before seen sets… 

They also did Rivendell before, and that didn't stop them doing a much larger version last year.

[hikouki]

3 hours ago, MAB said:

They also did Rivendell before, and that didn't stop them doing a much larger version last year.

LOL That previous Council of Elrond set was a joke compared to the actual Rivendell set!

[Roebuck]

5 hours ago, hikouki said:

LOL That previous Council of Elrond set was a joke compared to the actual Rivendell set!

Joke and joke, it was a small set with 4 minifigurs with 3 of them being unique to the set. I am sure a lot of people here would love to get small sets with a lot of minifigs within this theme now in addition to the huge set once a year

[hikouki]

52 minutes ago, Roebuck said:

Joke and joke, it was a small set with 4 minifigurs with 3 of them being unique to the set. I am sure a lot of people here would love to get small sets with a lot of minifigs within this theme now in addition to the huge set once a year

So basically it was a battlepack. 
The Rivendell today is a masterpiece in construction and scale.

[PsychoBuilder]

10 hours ago, Roebuck said:

Joke and joke, it was a small set with 4 minifigurs with 3 of them being unique to the set. I am sure a lot of people here would love to get small sets with a lot of minifigs within this theme now in addition to the huge set once a year

None of whom could sit in the provided chairs lol 

[Blazej_Holen]

21 hours ago, MAB said:

They also did Rivendell before, and that didn't stop them doing a much larger version last year.

Thats only half true. I dont consider that small “vignette” or “battle pack” as a Rivendell. The set itself is named “Council of Elrond” and depicts only one scene (IMO badly). So technically, we have proper Rovendell for the first time. It doesnt apply on Helms Deep or Bag End since they were proper and in scale reasonable depiction of the original sites… So. Thats that :)

[mirkwoodspiders]

On 8/5/2024 at 1:38 PM, Blazej_Holen said:

I Guess Minas Tirith. Since they mentioned tht playscale sets are more fun (see the interview with Rivendell designers), I think TLG go big, probably full slice of Minas Tirith with 800+ USD price point. 

 

I'm not sure how much I'd actually be willing to pay when push comes to shove, but if a Minas Tirith set were good enough, I think I might actually be willing to pay $1,000... yikes. I just typed that...

Edited August 8 by mirkwoodspiders

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

I'm not sure how much I'd actually be willing to pay when push comes to shove, but if a Minas Tirith set were good enough, I think I might actually be willing to pay $1,000... yikes. I just typed that...

That would be tough, breaking the $1000 barrier on a Lego set would be crazy.  That set would have to be perfect.  Would I do it, probably, but I might not feel good about it.  Like buyers regret at that type of price.  $500 for Rivendell and Nara’s dur leaves me upset (and I bought and love those sets but the price still bothers me).

 

that said, seeing the wicked sets really upsets me that we can’t get some small LOtR sets.  Nothing against wicked for those who like it, but if Lego says Wicked can sell with some movie coming out then why can’t they say hmm LOTR could sell with a tv series and a movie coming out?  Seriously why are they not making play sets.  They tested the waters with big sets and realized the theme sells, there is new content (don’t @ me with rights business, orcs and Rohan can be from the original movies), they clearly release small lines for other themes (wicked, despicable me, Indiana jones, etc.) around movies coming out. Just frustrating speculating on a potential $1000 set when they can’t release 3-4 play-sets.  (Or get a CMF like dungeons and dragons).  I would love to hear a logic based argument as to why they are not making a small wave of playsets.

[Roebuck]

1 hour ago, Lordhelmet said:

that said, seeing the wicked sets really upsets me that we can’t get some small LOtR sets.  Nothing against wicked for those who like it, but if Lego says Wicked can sell with some movie coming out then why can’t they say hmm LOTR could sell with a tv series and a movie coming out?  Seriously why are they not making play sets.  They tested the waters with big sets and realized the theme sells, there is new content (don’t @ me with rights business, orcs and Rohan can be from the original movies), they clearly release small lines for other themes (wicked, despicable me, Indiana jones, etc.) around movies coming out. Just frustrating speculating on a potential $1000 set when they can’t release 3-4 play-sets.  (Or get a CMF like dungeons and dragons).  I would love to hear a logic based argument as to why they are not making a small wave of playsets.

Wicked definitely has a much larger potential customer group (in young girls) than LOTR has since it is aimed for adults. The first run of LOTR/hobbit did not sell enough sets to kids and there was not enough AFOLs around at the time to keep the theme going. Lego have noticed the demand for the sets the last years and decided to try to release 1 huge D2C every year and that apparently worked. However they remember the poor sale the first run had on smaller sets and that makes them weary to try again. Just look at HP, the first wave sold like crazy however the 2 or 3 wave was released in a year (2003) that did not have any new movie on cinemas and it sold poorly. After that even if HP just grew in popularity the coming years they released very few sets in the theme and it was not before the last movies hit the theatres that they released a proper wave with more or less a "best of series". Think about all the money they lost those years with not having enough sets on shelf. However failure makes them weary and since then they have been really reluctant to release licensed series that are not backed by a movie or similar. HP was the most asked after theme for many years in Lego shops etc and with the new FB movie they decided to give it a go and the first new wave got 4 out of 10 of the bestselling Lego sets that year!

[PsychoBuilder]

I'd like to share my concept if Lego ever decides to take on a Numenor design (third age, of course):

Edited August 8 by Brickroll

[Altair1]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:38 PM, Blazej_Holen said:

I Guess Minas Tirith. Since they mentioned tht playscale sets are more fun (see the interview with Rivendell designers), I think TLG go big, probably full slice of Minas Tirith with 800+ USD price point. I think the set will be more focused on overall shape like Barad Dur, since its extremely large. So detailed gate, courtyard and tower with theone room accesible and playable with minifigs and the rest will be scaled down significantly. My guess is 7-8000 pcs. + 20 or so minifigs. Some orcs (perhaps 4-6), Witch King, Theoden, Eowyn, Pipin, Merry, Gandalf, Faramir, Denethor, 2-4 Gondorian soldiers, 1-2 Rangers, maybe 1-2 Rohan soldiers or Army of the Dead soldiers, and possibly Fell Beast + couple of horses.

Bag End and Helms Deep was already done decade ago. And from what we know, they would go with the path of other unreleased never before seen sets… Edoras is not as iconic as Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul or other Mordor sets doesnt make sense, with Barad Dur released this year. So big conflict scene is inevitable :)

Fully concur, Minas Tirith is the most likely set coming next year, and I can't wait (whatever the price) !

Edited August 8 by Altair1

[Ben S]

I would prefer something more affordable like Bag End. By the way, what tandbricks posted could mean Bag End, right? He quoted Bilbo from The Return of the King: "I think I’m quite ready for another adventure."

I read about it here: https://www.brickfanatics.com/lego-rumour-teases-lord-of-the-rings-2025-set/ It might not mean anything, but  Nevertheless, whatever it ends up being, I hope we get some info soon.

2 hours ago, Brickroll said:

I'd like to share my concept if Lego ever decides to take on a Numenor design (third age, of course):

Very accurate lol 

[BitByBrick]

8 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

Just frustrating speculating on a potential $1000 set when they can’t release 3-4 play-sets.  (Or get a CMF like dungeons and dragons).  I would love to hear a logic based argument as to why they are not making a small wave of playsets.

Agree, this is frustrating. LotR fans would love smaller sets or a CMF for a couple of reasons… affordability (note to LEGO: ease off on the massively priced sets for a while, give us something more reasonably priced, there are many of us customers that are on a fixed/limited budget)… army building (large sets are nice, but look empty with only a couple of figures, plus no way to create impressive MOCs, without breaking the bank) Am I hopeful that Lego will gift us fans smaller LotR sets or a CMF in the future, yes. But the reality is that the current trend seems to indicate that is only wishful thinking. Mind you, I am pleased with the return of the theme and everything that comes out is wonderful, even if I just have to look at the box in the store, because I can’t justify the cost. Hoping to find a figure or two on the secondary market. 

[FullBrickDev]

I would certainly hope for smaller sets over the very expensive ones, but it seems we'll be waiting for rumours about next year's selection for quite some time still. Maybe it is indeed true that the sets wouldn't do well among kids as some other theme's sets, but I do hope the demand for Rivendell, Barad-dûr, and especially the GWP have convinced the "suits" that demand is there & they start releasing smaller sets to test the waters.

[MAB]

On 8/7/2024 at 1:27 AM, hikouki said:

LOL That previous Council of Elrond set was a joke compared to the actual Rivendell set!

Sure, it was small and they went bigger in the new set. Just like they would likely go big with any location they do next, whether they did it over 10 years ago or not.

[mirkwoodspiders]

19 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

Just frustrating speculating on a potential $1000 set when they can’t release 3-4 play-sets.  (Or get a CMF like dungeons and dragons).  I would love to hear a logic based argument as to why they are not making a small wave of playsets.

Totally agree. I have nothing on which to base this beyond a gut feeling and seeing what I perceive to be the success of the larger models so far, but I really do think they'll come around and make play-scale sets in the near future.

[hikouki]

3 hours ago, MAB said:

Sure, it was small and they went bigger in the new set. Just like they would likely go big with any location they do next, whether they did it over 10 years ago or not.

I can really see where people are coming from when they ask for smaller sets, but I could also see the logic of keeping the sets large and expensive.

Smaller sets, assuming there are several, would appease almost everyone because there would be something for each type of Lego or LOTR fan.

However, keeping the sets large allows Lego more robust and intricate builds, and at the same time keeps the products exclusive.

With the way Lego has been cutting corners these days, smaller sets will tend to be "cheaper" items.

I don't mind if they go either way.

2 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Totally agree. I have nothing on which to base this beyond a gut feeling and seeing what I perceive to be the success of the larger models so far, but I really do think they'll come around and make play-scale sets in the near future.

I hope I am wrong, but I guess unless the big sets 'fail', then perhaps they would not revise their strategy.

[Lordhelmet]

2 hours ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

Totally agree. I have nothing on which to base this beyond a gut feeling and seeing what I perceive to be the success of the larger models so far, but I really do think they'll come around and make play-scale sets in the near future.

Hoping they do!  The fell beast was awesome to build and building some more LOtR in that size would be incredible.

[wesker]

On 8/9/2024 at 9:32 AM, mirkwoodspiders said:

Totally agree. I have nothing on which to base this beyond a gut feeling and seeing what I perceive to be the success of the larger models so far, but I really do think they'll come around and make play-scale sets in the near future.

I hope so. I'm getting tired of waiting for the Balrog and Eowyn/Witch-King battle to happen.

[Lego Nostalgia]

GUYS GUYS GUYS, I GAVE MY FIANCE WEDDING RING AND SHE WENT INVISIBLE, WAS IT THE RING TO RULE THEM ALL OR DID SHE LEAVE ME ?

[Artanis I]

14 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

GUYS GUYS GUYS, I GAVE MY FIANCE WEDDING RING AND SHE WENT INVISIBLE, WAS IT THE RING TO RULE THEM ALL OR DID SHE LEAVE ME ?

There are many magic rings in this world, and none of them should be used lightly

[Sneakguest]

On 8/14/2024 at 11:15 PM, Lego Nostalgia said:

GUYS GUYS GUYS, I GAVE MY FIANCE WEDDING RING AND SHE WENT INVISIBLE, WAS IT THE RING TO RULE THEM ALL OR DID SHE LEAVE ME ?

She went invicible for sure, not sure if my went the same way. I gave myself too much drugs instead of a ring, she dissapeared as well... 

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 minutes ago, Sneakguest said:

She went invicible for sure, not sure if my went the same way. I gave myself too much drugs instead of a ring, she dissapeared as well... 

That'll do it, for me it was the Alcohol and Gambling addiction, I bet the ring on all black, I lost the ring and the house.

[Sneakguest]

Oh megabluck... thats a bad one as well, but I have actually improved since, Ive lost not even one but two relationsships this way, and almost my job, so I just had to improve or end up in the gutter... 

Its nice that I have other interests like lego. Im trying to reward myself to allow to buy Bara Dur or Rivendell if Im sober 1 1/2 more months.

[Peppermint_M]

Okay, stay on topic yeah? I know waiting on news is boring and all that, but derailing is not the solution. Take it to some random Discord channel.