Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Agent Kallus]

Bag end is probably the most iconic location (tied with Barad-Dûr) if they wanted to make in another huge set, I think they should call it Hobbiton and include another hobbit hole and the green dragon ( though it'd probably prefer if it was a smaller stand alone bag-end but either would be cool.)

[Artanis I]

Yes, if you were going to make a huge hobbit set it should be Hobbiton, not just Bag End. Include 2, 3 or more homes, the creek & bridge and such. Like the starting area in the game.

[Altair1]

47 minutes ago, Artanis I said:

Yes, if you were going to make a huge hobbit set it should be Hobbiton, not just Bag End. Include 2, 3 or more homes, the creek & bridge and such. Like the starting area in the game.

Yes agreed, no point in having a second standalone Bag End. I would be happy to see a Hobbiton set at some point, but after Minas Tirith and Edoras which are for me the next two priorities ;-)

[mirkwoodspiders]

10 hours ago, hikouki said:

I would buy it too. Heck, if it were even 1K I would get it!

I think if LEGO decided to break the glass ceiling and hit $1,000, one of the few I'd be willing to go for on that would be a worthy Minas Tirith set. But even then.... $1,000 for a set, yikes lol. I think they could do it justice in the $600-$700 range, especially since I think the facade would be microscale a la Barad Dur and Orthanc. 

[LegoThomas85]

I personally would love to see a Minas Tirith in the way they made Barad-Dûr. The architecture even allows it to be closed front / open back.

Bag End has already been made wonderfully.

Another top wish would be: The Bridge of Khazad-Dûm (Balrog).

[Balrogofmorgoth]

1 hour ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

I think if LEGO decided to break the glass ceiling and hit $1,000, one of the few I'd be willing to go for on that would be a worthy Minas Tirith set. But even then.... $1,000 for a set, yikes lol. I think they could do it justice in the $600-$700 range, especially since I think the facade would be microscale a la Barad Dur and Orthanc. 

Yeah I think $700 would be enough for a worthy Minas Tirith with a couple decent side builds, maybe a siege tower and Grond or something. Building the lower levels of Barad-dûr made me realize it wouldn’t be that hard 

[RichardGoring]

19 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

I agree, Bag End does not have to be as big as the last two sets. That being said, I could see Minas Tirith needing to be in the $700 range to be done justice. That would be a hard pill to swallow, but I would do it 

17 hours ago, hikouki said:

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I would buy it too. Heck, if it were even 1K I would get it!

Yep, was going to say that could easily make this a $1000 set. Given the way Barad Dur seems to have sold, and the demand for the Fell Beast, they could put a load of figures in Minas Tirith and people would likely buy it. It might allow them to do it justice too. But also, $1000...

10 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Bag end is probably the most iconic location (tied with Barad-Dûr) if they wanted to make in another huge set, I think they should call it Hobbiton and include another hobbit hole and the green dragon ( though it'd probably prefer if it was a smaller stand alone bag-end but either would be cool.)

I love the idea of Hobbiton. Definitely helps it to make the likely price they'd want to charge.

This theme is crying out for dioramas though. There are so many that would work amazingly well.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

28 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

Yep, was going to say that could easily make this a $1000 set. Given the way Barad Dur seems to have sold, and the demand for the Fell Beast, they could put a load of figures in Minas Tirith and people would likely buy it. It might allow them to do it justice too. But also, $1000...

I love the idea of Hobbiton. Definitely helps it to make the likely price they'd want to charge.

This theme is crying out for dioramas though. There are so many that would work amazingly well.

A lot of people want dioramas. I think the theme needs battle packs more than anything else

[Black Falcon]

21 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

I am hoping that if they do both of those that they are in different years.   I might start grabbing a $50 gift card each month just to be ready in case they do another big one.  

I don´t see them doing two big Sets in one year, way more likely we will see a return of playsets than having two big sets without any normalsets. 

I also wouldn´t to much into those things, sure it can be hints on what to come or could just be what the designer would love to come, his favourits LotR locations etc. Though they are among the more likely locations anyways, but there are a lot locations I could see them doing, like Edoras, Moria (though that might be harder to display than other locations)

I would actually like to get a Lonely Mountain Set aswell, though I guess it is very unlikely they would do Sets based on the Hobbit.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

16 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

I don´t see them doing two big Sets in one year, way more likely we will see a return of playsets than having two big sets without any normalsets. 

I also wouldn´t to much into those things, sure it can be hints on what to come or could just be what the designer would love to come, his favourits LotR locations etc. Though they are among the more likely locations anyways, but there are a lot locations I could see them doing, like Edoras, Moria (though that might be harder to display than other locations)

I would actually like to get a Lonely Mountain Set aswell, though I guess it is very unlikely they would do Sets based on the Hobbit.

A MBS style Moria set would be awesome. Open with different areas and rooms for each scene. The Hollin Gate with the Watcher, the entrance chamber, stairs, the mines, the twenty-first hall with all the pillars, Chamber of Mazarbul with the Cave Troll, the broken stairs over the chasm, and of course the Bridge of Khazad-Dûm with the Balrog. Makes sense to include the whole Fellowship and several Moria Orcs

[Lordhelmet]

2 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

A MBS style Moria set would be awesome. Open with different areas and rooms for each scene. The Hollin Gate with the Watcher, the entrance chamber, stairs, the mines, the twenty-first hall with all the pillars, Chamber of Mazarbul with the Cave Troll, the broken stairs over the chasm, and of course the Bridge of Khazad-Dûm with the Balrog. Makes sense to include the whole Fellowship and several Moria Orcs

MBS styled sets would be great for that!  Similar to the betrayal at cloud city.  
 

I agree with your earlier point though battle packs are the way to go.  It is such low hanging fruit too (orc battle pack to fill out the giant Barad dur scenes) (elves battle pack to populate Rivendell), and then if minis tirith comes out orcs batt pack and Gondor battle pack. They already have moulds and basic designs it would not be hard to produce.

 

 

also how much would you all pay for a grond set?  Comes with four orcs and one of the beasts pulling it (big fig like dew back sized)

Edited June 5 by Lordhelmet

[kuzyabricks]

15 hours ago, Altair1 said:

Yes agreed, no point in having a second standalone Bag End. I would be happy to see a Hobbiton set at some point, but after Minas Tirith and Edoras which are for me the next two priorities ;-)

Edoras is nowhere near iconic or recognisable enough to be sold as a UCS set. Minas Tirith or the shire should be and I am certain will be next

[mirkwoodspiders]

15 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

Edoras is nowhere near iconic or recognisable enough to be sold as a UCS set. Minas Tirith or the shire should be and I am certain will be next

I agree, not near as iconic and is not likely to get a large-set treatment. But, I'd say it's decently recognisable, as it does get a decent amount of screen time. It's cool enough as a medeival sort of structure and has enough potential for some great minifigs in Theoden, Eowyn, Eomer, Wormtongue, etc. that it might sell fairly well. If it did get made, large or small scale, I'm almost certain I'd buy it!

And yes, I'm with you, Minas Tirith ought to be next and I hope will be. Perhaps just a "fool's hope" as Gandalf says.

[hikouki]

I am rooting for Minas Tirith.

They should cycle through the movies for locations each year. ;)

[kuzyabricks]

49 minutes ago, mirkwoodspiders said:

I agree, not near as iconic and is not likely to get a large-set treatment. But, I'd say it's decently recognisable, as it does get a decent amount of screen time. It's cool enough as a medeival sort of structure and has enough potential for some great minifigs in Theoden, Eowyn, Eomer, Wormtongue, etc. that it might sell fairly well. If it did get made, large or small scale, I'm almost certain I'd buy it!

And yes, I'm with you, Minas Tirith ought to be next and I hope will be. Perhaps just a "fool's hope" as Gandalf says.

The issue is that the current viking village is a little too "similar" to Edoras. Heck if my memory serves me right on this very forum someone mentioned converting that set into Edoras. I don't see the village retiring any time soon and I doubt Lego would risk putting out a LOTR set that could fail because of a "competing" set. I agree, building Barad-dur made me realize that minas tirith could infact work.

45 minutes ago, hikouki said:

I am rooting for Minas Tirith.

They should cycle through the movies for locations each year. ;)

Hopefully they become much cheaper)))))

[wesker]

7 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

A MBS style Moria set would be awesome. Open with different areas and rooms for each scene. The Hollin Gate with the Watcher, the entrance chamber, stairs, the mines, the twenty-first hall with all the pillars, Chamber of Mazarbul with the Cave Troll, the broken stairs over the chasm, and of course the Bridge of Khazad-Dûm with the Balrog. Makes sense to include the whole Fellowship and several Moria Orcs

I don't think Moria really needs the MBS treatment. Trying to squeeze everything into a single set has the potential for it looking like an incoherent mess which is something both Cloud City and Assault on Hoth were heavily criticized for.

It would be better to just release the Balrog, Balin's Tomb and the Gate/Watcher as three separate sets.
 

1 hour ago, kuzyabricks said:

Edoras is nowhere near iconic or recognisable enough to be sold as a UCS set. Minas Tirith or the shire should be and I am certain will be next

I disagree. Edoras is definitely one of the more memorable locations from the trilogy and one that is frequently requested by fans. I don't think it will happen before the Shire or Minas Tirith but its certainly fair game after that. The only locations that can really compete with Edoras by that point would be Helms Deep and Orthanc.

[MAB]

56 minutes ago, wesker said:

I don't think Moria really needs the MBS treatment. Trying to squeeze everything into a single set has the potential for it looking like an incoherent mess which is something both Cloud City and Assault on Hoth were heavily criticized for.

It would be better to just release the Balrog, Balin's Tomb and the Gate/Watcher as three separate sets.

My recollection is that Assault on Hoth was not criticised because it was an incoherent mess, but that it was essentially a big collection of smaller things that they had already done before and so AOH added very little. 

If the smaller LOTR sets don't exist, a big combination set is less of an issue. Especially if those sets are not likely to be wanted as multiples.

[Kraby]

I've been tempted to build this MOC, but all those talks about a potential new set coming are making me hesitate... https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-174642/Bucktopus/ucs-hobbiton-an-unexpected-gathering-display-stand/#details

 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

Honestly Meduseld is very close to the top of my list of most wanted D2C sets

[Bugbot20082]

I can see them doing a UCS Bangend, as it’s one of the most iconic locations. It might have a similar footprint to Rivendale but less parts:

interior with at least 3 connected rooms each with a window to the front: entrance hallway, living room, dining/tea room. study. The back of the set is open and the roof can be removed like the original set. Perhaps have a removable fireplace to help prop up the weight of the removable roof/tree when it’s all together 

A much more substantial tree build compared to the original set

Includes Gandalf’s cart and a detailed garden and front fence/gate

Figures: Gandalf, old Bilbo, the other 4 hobbits, cart horse, Rosie? I doubt they would do the company of Dearves as much as I would like that  

this is an ideas set which is similar to what I can imagine: https://ideas.lego.com/challenges/58660122-6eea-44ec-bfb4-a0d26f4015fa/application/21120fac-42d9-40d6-92a7-440998a54970

 

Edited June 5 by Bugbot20082

[Balrogofmorgoth]

1 hour ago, Bugbot20082 said:

I can see them doing a UCS Bangend, as it’s one of the most iconic locations. It might have a similar footprint to Rivendale but less parts:

interior with at least 3 connected rooms each with a window to the front: entrance hallway, living room, dining/tea room. study. The back of the set is open and the roof can be removed like the original set. Perhaps have a removable fireplace to help prop up the weight of the removable roof/tree when it’s all together 

A much more substantial tree build compared to the original set

Includes Gandalf’s cart and a detailed garden and front fence/gate

Figures: Gandalf, old Bilbo, the other 4 hobbits, cart horse, Rosie? I doubt they would do the company of Dearves as much as I would like that  

this is an ideas set which is similar to what I can imagine: https://ideas.lego.com/challenges/58660122-6eea-44ec-bfb4-a0d26f4015fa/application/21120fac-42d9-40d6-92a7-440998a54970

 

It would be cool to see it centered around the birthday party, with tents and lights and decorations outside

[mirkwoodspiders]

Someone has a listing on eBay for *just* the top portion of Barad-Dur with Sauron's eye and the light brick. I guess they just got the set for the figs... ? I've never seen a listing like that for a set before and I'm not sure why anyone would want just the eye without the rest of the tower.

[Lordhelmet]

3 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

It would be cool to see it centered around the birthday party, with tents and lights and decorations outside

I would prefer the birthday party scene as a D2C over a full shire (full shire seems like it would be gigantic or micro scale).  I would prefer some smaller playsets for the shire like the green dragon, etc.

 

 I think my wish list for D2C sets would be the following in order

Minis Tirith $500-:700

Meduseld :$300

Minis Morgul: :$400

Lothlorien : $200-$300

argonath: $100

Prancing Pony: $200

Party Tree: $400

Grey Havens: $250

Bag End :$250

Helms Deep: $500

 

ideally though we would get some play sets and battle packs to fill in the gaps or take the place of some of these.

[Black Falcon]

21 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

A MBS style Moria set would be awesome. Open with different areas and rooms for each scene. The Hollin Gate with the Watcher, the entrance chamber, stairs, the mines, the twenty-first hall with all the pillars, Chamber of Mazarbul with the Cave Troll, the broken stairs over the chasm, and of course the Bridge of Khazad-Dûm with the Balrog. Makes sense to include the whole Fellowship and several Moria Orcs

Yeah, though I kinda doubt they would include all those scenes/places. I would take the Watcher, Chamber of Mazarbul and the Bridge as granted though. No way they would make the set without those and especially the Bridge and the Balrog.

15 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Edoras is nowhere near iconic or recognisable enough to be sold as a UCS set. Minas Tirith or the shire should be and I am certain will be next

I would disagree here. Maybe it wouldn´t be the first choice, but I would say it is iconic enough - and especially could serve to have a less expensive set (compared to Rivendell and Barad-Dûr) for Sale. Also the Great Hall of Edoras has an quite unique style compared to other buildings in the films (granted, bag end, and others do have that to)

14 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

The issue is that the current viking village is a little too "similar" to Edoras. Heck if my memory serves me right on this very forum someone mentioned converting that set into Edoras. I don't see the village retiring any time soon and I doubt Lego would risk putting out a LOTR set that could fail because of a "competing" set. I agree, building Barad-dur made me realize that minas tirith could infact work.

Hopefully they become much cheaper)))))

I don´t think that is an issue, since one is an IP based Set and the other isn´t. And anyways I wouldn´t call them similar aside from the colour sheme maybe. Sure the Viking Village is nearer with its architectural style than other sets are, but the size difference alone doesn´t really make them comparable to me. And actually I would rather say that Edoras would benefit from the Viking village beeing avaiable because it could use parts that are in productions now, like the printed 1x4 tile.

13 hours ago, wesker said:

I don't think Moria really needs the MBS treatment. Trying to squeeze everything into a single set has the potential for it looking like an incoherent mess which is something both Cloud City and Assault on Hoth were heavily criticized for.

It would be better to just release the Balrog, Balin's Tomb and the Gate/Watcher as three separate sets.

I think that hugely depends on how well it is done and I don´t have much doubt that they could make that fit nicely together. 

[LegoThomas85]

On 6/3/2024 at 1:55 PM, Lordhelmet said:

I got plastic bags, was surprised because I was expecting to see paper bags after the reviews.  Did anyone else have issues with the mouth of Sauron piece bending?

Mine was bent.

I can remember the old version of Mouth's helmet came in a seperate plastic bag.

Do you guys think Lego is going to replace the bent helmets?