Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Black Falcon]

17 hours ago, zoth33 said:

You do realize that Bag End is in LOTR right?  It's the same world so yes it's in the Hobbit but it's also featured in LOTR.  They could do Minas Tirith as a scaled down version there are a few out there that look good.  They could also make Lothlorien, the prancing pony, Osgiliath, any part of Moria, the dead marshes, and many other locations.  

Maybe you should read the comment I answered to first before you answer to mine ;). There a set with Thorin and his fellowship was suggested which clearly is hobbit and not LOTR. Also it should have been clear to you that I know that Bag End also is in the LOTR, hence my comment on that they could make the set for both Hobbit and LOTR - but as I stated above it just seems to be to many minifigs, since you would need Two Bilbos, Thorin and his Fellowship, Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin. Not impossible for them to make that many minifigures, but might also depend on how big they choose to make the whole set?

4 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I just hope that the final model for Barad-dur is to scale with the Orthanc set.

Would for sure be top one in both size and price ;)

[RichardGoring]

1 hour ago, Rjbricks said:

I suspect unless they rerelease Orthanc as a microscale building, it won’t be to scale! 
 

I’m assuming that post was joking… 🙃 

Mostly joking. Partly pondering if they'd consider making it far taller the Eiffel Tower and definitively the largest LEGO set, to quash the Titanic vs Eiffel Tower vs World Map variations. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

3 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

Mostly joking. Partly pondering if they'd consider making it far taller the Eiffel Tower and definitively the largest LEGO set, to quash the Titanic vs Eiffel Tower vs World Map variations. 

I was just telling some friends of mine that I would absolutely love a Barad-Dûr set that is as tall is the Eiffel Tower set. Imagine how imposing and impressive and intimidating that would be. That would truly do it justice 

[zoth33]

5 hours ago, Black Falcon said:

Maybe you should read the comment I answered to first before you answer to mine ;). There a set with Thorin and his fellowship was suggested which clearly is hobbit and not LOTR. Also it should have been clear to you that I know that Bag End also is in the LOTR, hence my comment on that they could make the set for both Hobbit and LOTR - but as I stated above it just seems to be to many minifigs, since you would need Two Bilbos, Thorin and his Fellowship, Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin. Not impossible for them to make that many minifigures, but might also depend on how big they choose to make the whole set?

Would for sure be top one in both size and price ;)

Yeah I read that comment and it just talks about Bag End in general.  It's in both properties so clearly lego could use it either for LOTR or the Hobbit.  I'm saying that it could be used for both it doesn't just have to be in the Hobbit just because lego decided to put it in the Hobbit waves instead of LOTR.  All I'm saying is that the Hobbit and LOTR are all part of Tolkien's world.  You can use Bag End for whatever you want.  I think lego just put Bag End in with the Hobbit sets to give us more variety for LOTR.  I just wished we had gotten more sets at that time.  

[RichardGoring]

Rivendell is now available to buy from Target as well, which increases the likelihood of discounts in the US at some point. Hopefully.

[Roebuck]

10 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

Mostly joking. Partly pondering if they'd consider making it far taller the Eiffel Tower and definitively the largest LEGO set, to quash the Titanic vs Eiffel Tower vs World Map variations. 

They can include Orthanc in the set, should only take 10 parts or similar then

I do not remember, but was it ever filmed inside the tower? If not what would they include there? Is there not a big chance this is microfig scale with some minigifs on display like the big Hogwarts set?

[Gorilla94]

On 11/21/2023 at 1:52 PM, MAB said:

It may seem simple but that would mean that they have to have a licensing deal for The Hobbit in place again and we don't know if that is the case. It might also be that Warner don't want The Hobbit sets now that it is no longer a current movie or one where there is a large fanbase, where the toys help drive advertising for the movies and vice versa. I rarely see any merchandise for The Hobbit these days, whereas I still see LOTR merchandise for sale. It would also need agreement that they can include both movie trilogies within the same product. I cannot remember seeing much merchandise in the past where this was done. Even though it is the same studio / distributor, sometimes they want to keep their properties distinct from each other.

I see hobbit merchandise on a regular basis. It is mostly the map of Erebor and Thrain's key in all kinds of variations. Smaug is popular, too. But to me it seems it's relevance is for lots of people - adults and kids as well - very much based on the book, which is still present at litterally any reading competition. Pretty much everyone liked the first hobbit movie and the parts of the second one true to the books. On the other hand I know nobody who doesn't detest Tauriel and the whole love triangle stuff with Legolas and Kili. If they make a set each for the unexpected gathering and the Erebor, it would surely work.

But you are right. The licence is called lotr. There won't be a hobbit Bag End which means the minifigure selection would be boring for most people.

Edited November 22, 2023 by Gorilla94

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

10 hours ago, Roebuck said:

They can include Orthanc in the set, should only take 10 parts or similar then

I do not remember, but was it ever filmed inside the tower? If not what would they include there? Is there not a big chance this is microfig scale with some minigifs on display like the big Hogwarts set?

The only stuff we see from the movies in Barad-Dûr is presumably the very brief shot of Gollum being tortured. 
 

Although, knowing Lego, there’s a decent chance they use the interior to depict other scenes that happened elsewhere within Mordor. Like I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a room to represent Sauron forging the ring, even though that happened in Mount Doom.

[MAB]

4 hours ago, Gorilla94 said:

I see hobbit merchandise on a regular basis. It is mostly the map of Erebor and Thrain's key in all kinds of variations. Smaug is popular, too. But to me it seems it's relevance is for lots of people - adults and kids as well - very much based on the book, which is still present at litterally any reading competition. Pretty much everyone liked the first hobbit movie and the parts of the second one true to the books. On the other hand I know nobody who doesn't detest Tauriel and the whole love triangle stuff with Legolas and Kili. If they make a set each for the unexpected gathering and the Erebor, it would surely work.

Yes, when I said I see very little merchandise for The Hobbit I meant for the The Hobbit movie not the book, as LEGO has (or had) the agreement with Warner Bros for the movies and not with the publishers of the books. And of course, that is why the dwarves all look like their movie characters.

And personally, I don't mind Tauriel too much.

 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

6 hours ago, MAB said:

Yes, when I said I see very little merchandise for The Hobbit I meant for the The Hobbit movie not the book, as LEGO has (or had) the agreement with Warner Bros for the movies and not with the publishers of the books. And of course, that is why the dwarves all look like their movie characters.

And personally, I don't mind Tauriel too much.

 

The problem isn’t Tauriel. The problem is what they used her for

10 hours ago, Gorilla94 said:

I see hobbit merchandise on a regular basis. It is mostly the map of Erebor and Thrain's key in all kinds of variations. Smaug is popular, too. But to me it seems it's relevance is for lots of people - adults and kids as well - very much based on the book, which is still present at litterally any reading competition. Pretty much everyone liked the first hobbit movie and the parts of the second one true to the books. On the other hand I know nobody who doesn't detest Tauriel and the whole love triangle stuff with Legolas and Kili. If they make a set each for the unexpected gathering and the Erebor, it would surely work.

But you are right. The licence is called lotr. There won't be a hobbit Bag End which means the minifigure selection would be boring for most people.

Maybe it would be boring for boring people. Different versions of our main Hobbits plus Bilbo and an assortment of other Hobbits is a very neat prospect for bigger fans

[Albert with an A]

Is is possible to still expect other lord of the rings sets next year or would we have heard something by now?

[Roebuck]

2 hours ago, Albert with an A said:

Is is possible to still expect other lord of the rings sets next year or would we have heard something by now?

Everything is possible and most of the sets next year is unknown, but so far it seems to me that this is a 1 big D2C per year kind of theme, maybe with some brick-heads, magnets, GWP etc, but no normal wave..

[Lion King]

I wonder if we would see molded cave troll and giant eagle making their comebacks. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

29 minutes ago, Lion King said:

I wonder if we would see molded cave troll and giant eagle making their comebacks. 

I hope so eventually

15 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

The problem isn’t Tauriel. The problem is what they used her for

Maybe it would be boring for boring people. Different versions of our main Hobbits plus Bilbo and an assortment of other Hobbits is a very neat prospect for bigger fans

I did not mean this to be as insulting as it sounds. I just mean people that care very deeply about every aspect of this story inside and out, book, film, etc. really don’t consider variations of characters or even extremely minor characters as boring at all. It would actually be really nice to see some minor characters or even generic Hobbits, just as an example, to populate our lego Middle-earth

[hikouki]

On 11/23/2023 at 6:45 AM, Balrogofmorgoth said:

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I did not mean this to be as insulting as it sounds. I just mean people that care very deeply about every aspect of this story inside and out, book, film, etc. really don’t consider variations of characters or even extremely minor characters as boring at all. It would actually be really nice to see some minor characters or even generic Hobbits, just as an example, to populate our lego Middle-earth

Generic humanoids? Why not? I second that motion! After all, we got two elves on the Rivendell set!

[Balrogofmorgoth]

13 hours ago, hikouki said:

Generic humanoids? Why not? I second that motion! After all, we got two elves on the Rivendell set!

Obviously getting the more important figures is priority, but I certainly wouldn’t complain if we got generic members of each race to populate the builds. It feels more genuine that way

[zoth33]

On 11/23/2023 at 9:45 AM, Balrogofmorgoth said:

I hope so eventually

I did not mean this to be as insulting as it sounds. I just mean people that care very deeply about every aspect of this story inside and out, book, film, etc. really don’t consider variations of characters or even extremely minor characters as boring at all. It would actually be really nice to see some minor characters or even generic Hobbits, just as an example, to populate our lego Middle-earth

Yes that would be great.  Although I don't have Rivendell yet I will be getting it early next year at some point.  Any generic orcs, goblins, humans, dwarves, elves, etc would be great.  The more generic torso and leg prints would be wonderful.  Like more elves from Lothlorien, people from Minas Tirith, Rohan, Dale, etc.  Dwarves from the blue mountains or dwarven workers.  

[hikouki]

I think apart from the large set, Lego should offer a small battlepack set each year! Wishful thinking!

[Lordhelmet]

14 hours ago, hikouki said:

I think apart from the large set, Lego should offer a small battlepack set each year! Wishful thinking!

I would spend more on battle packs then I do on one large set (or at least comparable prices), assuming 4 orcs or Uruks in a battle pack I would want around 25 sets to get 100 of each.  so right there is the $500 (per battle pack), plus all the other random ones I would buy if they had sales or promotions just to make the army even bigger, probably good for me that they don't make them but it is a missed opportunity for sure.  (Same could be said about a polybag with an army builder character, or CMF with army builders sprinkled in)

[hikouki]

9 hours ago, Lordhelmet said:

I would spend more on battle packs then I do on one large set (or at least comparable prices), assuming 4 orcs or Uruks in a battle pack I would want around 25 sets to get 100 of each.  so right there is the $500 (per battle pack), plus all the other random ones I would buy if they had sales or promotions just to make the army even bigger, probably good for me that they don't make them but it is a missed opportunity for sure.  (Same could be said about a polybag with an army builder character, or CMF with army builders sprinkled in)

Meanwhile, Lego would rather make several sets for upcoming new/ untested movies (non-LOTR) rather than the classics (LOTR, or otherwise). When these movies flop, and Lego sets flop as well, Lego just says there is no market for it?

[Minishark2000]

1414 Falconfan on youtube stream said "there are plans for Lego LOTR"

[Something_Awesome]

LOTR Leak information:

I was in live stream that featured FalconFan, a reliable leaker of LEGO information. My interest was Ninjago, but he dropped a nice side piece of information. He said "there are plans for Lord of the Rings." Whether this means a full-fledged theme, or more high-priced sets BEYOND Barad Dur is unknown to me. But, essentially, if not a whole theme, you can expect at least another set BEYOND the Barad Dur in 2024. This is a good sign for those of us wanting a playscale theme. The stream was already winding down as this got revealed, but my personal interpretation of this bit of information is that we will be getting a LOTR theme. 

[Minishark2000]

1 minute ago, Something_Awesome said:

LOTR Leak information:

I was in live stream that featured FalconFan, a reliable leaker of LEGO information. My interest was Ninjago, but he dropped a nice side piece of information. He said "there are plans for Lord of the Rings." Whether this means a full-fledged theme, or more high-priced sets BEYOND Barad Dur is unknown to me. But, essentially, if not a whole theme, you can expect at least another set BEYOND the Barad Dur in 2024. This is a good sign for those of us wanting a playscale theme. The stream was already winding down as this got revealed, but my personal interpretation of this bit of information is that we will be getting a LOTR theme. 

That's what I thought aswell,I just feel like the term plans is usually used for a wider scope than just a single large set, moreso implies a range of sets

[Something_Awesome]

3 minutes ago, Minishark2000 said:

That's what I thought aswell,I just feel like the term plans is usually used for a wider scope than just a single large set, moreso implies a range of sets

Oh nice, just saw your post above mine. Yep. My interpretation is a full theme. Not saying this to wish in to existence. I'm actually just here waiting on the sidelines to see if LOTR or Castle comes back before I decide to collect one of the themes. I'm a fan of the castle themes, but LOTR is my favorite IP. I can afford to collect one, not both. If LOTR becomes a theme, then I can just collect that and buy Rivendell instead of the 90th anniversary castle. 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Something_Awesome

[Gorilla94]

On 11/23/2023 at 12:43 AM, Balrogofmorgoth said:

The problem isn’t Tauriel. The problem is what they used her for

Maybe it would be boring for boring people. Different versions of our main Hobbits plus Bilbo and an assortment of other Hobbits is a very neat prospect for bigger fans

I would say what she is and what she was used for goes hand in hand. I think she was meant to be some kind of Eowyn 2.0... just without being relatable or interesting while taking a huge amount of screen time with bloated scenes without noticable character growth.

I'd say it isn't only a question of bigger or lesser fans but also what type of collector you are, too. I own one (in my taste) perfect representation of each character I love. My Harry, Ron and Hermoine are a mixture of the year 1 and 2 hairpieces and faces with cmf robes, which use printed medium legs. My Batman is a Mix of the the Lego Batman movie figure with the UCS rubber Cowl  and custom vambraces... My Gandalf uses the old face, new body and skirt, custom hat/hair-combo, custom sword mould and a custom staff. I am a pretty hardcore fan of things I love especially when you look into the amount of effort and money I put into each character/figure. It just feels strange to me to have multible variants of a character standing next to each other so variants like a Mordor Frodo or Legolas in robes would not make it into my collection, if I got them for free.