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13 hours ago, Cumulonimbus said:

personally I would like to see more Claas, Arocs and Volvo like sets instead of car brands, because they provide a good balance between realism and functions

Agreed.

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On 11/21/2018 at 5:46 PM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Functions: 

- One knob lifts the arm
- One knob rotates the cab
- One knob controls the winch. There's a switch in the back that controls the speed of the winch. Two stickers on both side. The sticker in the left is a turtle, while the one in the right is a rabbit. Blue 20z clutch gear detected in the back wooohoooo. 

 

There's a red switch at the front of the arm too to change the grabber angle.

I'm glad lego havn't ditched the new blue 20 Tooth double clutch idler double bevel gear (mouthful!), and it has suspention :)

Edited by SNIPE

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20 hours ago, Cumulonimbus said:

 Lego minded customer wishes (functions, “MOC-ability”, B-models, etc). To conclude:  if licensed sets are the way to go for Technic, personally I would like to see more Claas, Arocs and Volvo like sets instead of car brands, because they provide a good balance between realism and functions.

Bear in mind that these are the 1H sets. Go to Brickset and browse the previous year’s 1H sets. You will come to the conclusion that they are seldomly very technical and function heavy. I absolutely agree Technic should be about functions instead of licenses, but I do think it’s okay for these sets and I expect the more techinical sets will appear in the 2H wave, like the usually do.

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45 minutes ago, Jim said:

... I expect the more technical sets will appear in the 2H wave, like the usually do.

Good point, I didn't realise this was the case. It seems logical that more complex sets take longer to develop and the roadmap for each year is set at the beginning of the year. So I assume  that development of most sets of any year start more or less start simultaneously. The complex 2H sets would take up at least half (maybe more?) the Technic developing team for the whole year. 1H sets not only have a tighter deadline, have less developing power behind them as well? It would explain why some 1H sets look a bit rushed once and a while, not to mention the quick-fixes like the 42088 cherry picker.

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Here's a thought. Back when Technics main competition was from Meccano and when 8868 was on the shelves, Meccano had fully panelled exteriors with not very much going on inside. I remember the large Meccano set 6 having a large race car with fully panelled exterior with steering and motorised rear axle. While Technic had the 8868, and also inexpensive universal sets with low overall piece counts but still having a motor and lots of gears and so on, with no external panelling to speak of but internal mechanisms far more numerous and authentic than the competition. Meccano slowly but surely lost popularity in the decades to follow. Now we see a large race car from Lego with fully panelled exteriors but not as much attention to the authenticity of the internal mechanisms. It doesn't seem wise to follow Meccano down the road of external panelling (which indeed makes it look like a cool toy) being more important than internal mechanisms (which makes it the real thing, only smaller). I get that today's kids aren't the same and have far more to distract them away from traditional toys like Lego, which is why it needs to look good and striking on the box, and that designers have to work to strict and difficult limits on cost. But there needs to be a balance between how many parts are allocated to exterior prettyness Vs interior mechanical authenticity and I think the corvette strikes that balance better than the Porsche. It's difficult but maybe the answer is doing more with less parts. Parts like the gearbox parts in the Chiron allow 2 or 3 speed gearboxes to be built very simply, realistically and with very few parts. The wheel arches allow a large chunk of the exterior to be authentically recreated with a single piece. Some may argue that having a greater number of specialised parts is not good, but I say that if they enable Technic to look as good as it needs to on the box while maintaing or improving levels of mechanical authenticity (which is essential as its Technics core, it's what made Technic popular and really the only thing Technic can do better than similarly priced competition) all while staying with strict limits on piece count then I'm definitely all for it.

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I think I’m looking at buying the Tracked loader first because I love both models (hoping I can build a copy of the b with my existing part set rather than buying 2), then the vette as much because I want the small arches and then if it looks better in real life the Porsche but part of that will depend on how the arches are done as I could really use those on other potential models if they’re stickers and not printed.

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tracked loader is brilliant!!!

that is 100% sold on me. 

This is what technic should be. the best set since 2016 (IMO).

for the rest, I am either not an audience (which is ok), or I am not impressed at all (Porsche statue - not like that - as a Technic set it is just wrong. As a Creator that would be ok, borderline cool)

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10 hours ago, Seasider said:

I think I’m looking at buying the Tracked loader first because I love both models (hoping I can build a copy of the b with my existing part set rather than buying 2), then the vette as much because I want the small arches and then if it looks better in real life the Porsche but part of that will depend on how the arches are done as I could really use those on other potential models if they’re stickers and not printed.

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I too hope the Porsche arches are not printed, but it may be possible to remove the printing from them if they are in fact not stickers. I've seen YouTube videos where they rub Brasso metal polish on the parts, which removed the printing and left the parts looking as good as new. That's my plan if it does turn out they are printed on (after I try it out on parts I don't care about). Not sure how some purists would feel about this, but it seems like a viable option.

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1 hour ago, mpj said:

When the 2h list is revealed usually? During the toy fair?

Can't remember when lists first appear, but first leaked images of 2nd half sets usually appear within a few days of Christmas day.

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2H sets from 2018 leaked in December 2017, but given how well TLG protected 1H 2019 I wouldn't expect any information till much, much later

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Regarding the new 42095 sprocket: I'm working on a tracked model for which I designed the above sprocket from scratch in SolidWorks. I have printed this wheel already with my own 3D printer. As I was not happy with the printed pin and axle holes from the 3D printer, the method of connecting this wheel is to squeeze two pulley wheels inside the middle cilinder, which is a tiny bit too small. This connection can handle a lot of torque, depending on the used print material. With my design, I also tackle the problem of the wheel being two studs wide. My wheel is one stud wide. This enables a lot of earlier impossible design solutions.  

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I'm very surprised to see my little secret back-room 3D project so soon in a real Lego Technic set :sweet:

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Hey guys, I found the confidential, super secret designer video for the upcoming 42088

 

 

Edited by Ngoc Nguyen

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32 minutes ago, 896gerard said:

I'm very surprised to see my little secret back-room 3D project so soon in a real Lego Technic set :sweet:

It'd be very nice if the new sprocket was hollow like yours or at least with a pin hole instead of an axle hole (like this one) in order to let an independent axle pass through, but judging by available images i'm not holding much hope.

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On 11/26/2018 at 4:26 PM, dimaks13 said:

 

Why they recreate it? 

 

Edited by Milan
Removed the quoted images

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