AE bricks Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) It's a very simple question, which one looks best ? My idea was to build a tandem loc, so both would have to look more alike and thus one of them would have te be adjusted again, or should I keep them the way they are? The story behind this can be read in the spoiler further down this post. Spoiler Some of you will think this is just a variation or MOD on the yellow loc from set 7939. Well I can't blame you but honestly, i started this MOC from scratch with some left over 6x24 baseplates and yellow cabs I intended to build a belgium railway (called NMBS) type HLE 13, like this one: As i started building, more and more yellow bricks fell into place, and far to little grey is added in the MOC now to feel the resemblance. Plus once i started building the roof I made it more diesel like instead of sticking to an electrical overhead. The 6x24 baseplate is just long enough to get the IR reciever and battery box into place with only 2 studs between them to squize the cables. If i wouldn't spend so much money on new bricks (i have some more WIP at the moment) i'd buy some extra custom made stickers for these locs, but it's a "nice to have" instead of a priority. Greets, AE Edited July 19, 2018 by AE bricks Added an extra <br> around the spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
higgins91 Posted July 19, 2018 I prefer the left one, with black parts. the full yelow seem too flat, without relief ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirzyk Posted July 19, 2018 Agreed, left one. As for the right one, maybe put the tile grills in yellow behind different color plates and see how that looks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murdoch17 Posted July 19, 2018 I'll also vote the one on the left, as it just stands out better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LM71Blackbird Posted July 19, 2018 The left one with the black and yellow is definitely more eye-catching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deraven Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, pirzyk said: Agreed, left one. As for the right one, maybe put the tile grills in yellow behind different color plates and see how that looks? This is what I was going to say. The left one, but perhaps the grill plates in yellow or dark grey instead of black so there's not quite so much contrast but still some visual interest there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toastie Posted July 19, 2018 Left, OK, but I would use dark grey grills, or ever yellow ones with contrast in the back. Black stands out very well but it also almost "tears" the engine into several pieces. Oh well, I am color blind, so don't bother. Best Thorsten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AE bricks Posted July 20, 2018 23 hours ago, deraven said: This is what I was going to say. The left one, but perhaps the grill plates in yellow or dark grey instead of black so there's not quite so much contrast but still some visual interest there. Great, I will give that a try but need to check how many grill plates I have in those colors, might need to order some on BL first. Thanks to all the others as well, the votes are quite clear. AE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3D LEGO Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) AE Bricks, I know you asked for input between the two versions but would you mind if I offer some additional ideas to consider? My first idea would be wither or not you have you considered yellow grille instead of black? Black does give it the feeling of a large hole, which most radiator areas are but even more so. My second idea stems from the fact that most diesel locomotives are asymmetric in design with the radiator components shifted to one area. (Siemens Vectrons, Electro Motive Diesel and General Electric, etc, even the DB BR 210 is asymmetric.) There are exceptions to this and they involve the likes of dual engine locomotives as found of early generation diesel hydraulics or super locomotives. (Such as the BR V 200.0, EMD DD35 or DD40X, Baldwin Locomotive Works DR-6-4-2000, etc.) And my last idea concerns modern versus old. Modern locomotives tend to be less cluttered and more aesthetically pleasing design-wise (With the exception of most American designs.) while older ones tend to be more cluttered. (Again especially American designs. No I am not picking on them.) That being said, I vote for the left one but with half of the current grille area. But anything can be built. 3D LEGO PS: Most diesel-hydraulic/diesel-electric locomotives have a below frame fuel tank and or combo tank though exceptions do exist. (See New Zealand DJ Class.) Edited July 23, 2018 by 3D LEGO Duplicate word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AE bricks Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 12:37 AM, 3D LEGO said: My second idea stems from the fact that most diesel locomotives are asymmetric in design with the radiator components shifted to one area. (Siemens Vectrons, Electro Motive Diesel and General Electric, etc, even the DB BR 210 is asymmetric.) There are exceptions to this and they involve the likes of dual engine locomotives as found of early generation diesel hydraulics or super locomotives. (Such as the BR V 200.0, EMD DD35 or DD40X, Baldwin Locomotive Works DR-6-4-2000, etc.) And my last idea concerns modern versus old. Modern locomotives tend to be less cluttered and more aesthetically pleasing design-wise (With the exception of most American designs.) while older ones tend to be more cluttered. (Again especially American designs. No I am not picking on them. Thanks for your input. As mentioned in the hiden content of the post my idea was based on belgian railways NMBS HLE 13 series (by Alstom) which is by design symmetric. I will try different colors on the grill plates soon to replace the black ones. As for a next project i would like to build a Vossloh G2000BB like this one: Although it will be almost impossible in 6 studs wide. Once i get my hands on a reasonably priced PU set i'll get started. The windows worry me a bit. Could use some examples on how to fix those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazertron Posted July 23, 2018 I would go for the left one. Nice MOC BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3D LEGO Posted July 23, 2018 AE Bricks, I look forward to what you come up with. By the way, try searching for images of the Vossloh G2000BB. I found several different LEGO models that people have built. Such as Example A, Example B or Example C. If you stay clear of the two-thirds cab model then it should be fairly easy to design. (The other is not impossible, just harder.) The ends the locomotive are close enough to flat that you could get away with a lot in your design. Also sets 10219 and 60052 are good resources for inspiration on how to build the narrow mid section. 3D LEGO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pelle Posted July 24, 2018 Hello AE Bricks, I choose the left one but I would try to have the horizontal gray line of the right one in it. The gray horizontal line of the left one now jumps up with 1/3 brick. Great enigines! I also like your signature a lot. The two enigines behind each other look great. In your signature the "left on" also has one "unbroken" gray horizontal line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zephyr1934 Posted July 25, 2018 So the one on the left looks better because the change in color breaks up the yellow wall, what about the one on the right with light or dark gray profile bricks instead of the yellow? The one on the right looks good because the gray/yellow boarder is straight and the tiles on the left design make the appearance a bit choppy. If you don't have enough of the grill bricks in dark gray, you could test the look out in LDD before you buy the bricks. You could also consider printed bricks to add something without the cost of custom stickers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites