Lucarex Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said: A bit of an insult to Whovians for LEGO to make James Bond sets over more Doctor Who ones. I know which would make them more money, and it's not LEGO James Bond. Not this again, jeez You got a great Ideas set (which like others I bought despite not being a "Whovian") and a couple of Dimensions packs. That's it, theme over. Suggest you accept it. Edited June 22, 2018 by Lucarex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucarex Posted June 22, 2018 Anyway, back on topic...sadly from the leaked silhouette, it seems it's not a Bond DB5 but a Creator-scale Vanquish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puresh Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) I'm not a car expert myself but isn't that the DB10 James Bond has in the newer movies? That being said IF we do get a figure it'll very likely be Craig. As someone who loves the newer Bond movies this is awesome even though I'm starting to worry we will even get a figure of Bond at all since it's a Creator Expert set Edited June 22, 2018 by Puresh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert8 Posted June 22, 2018 11 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said: A bit of an insult to Whovians for LEGO to make James Bond sets over more Doctor Who ones. I know which would make them more money, and it's not LEGO James Bond. I'm failing to see your point here because one theme has nothing to do with the other In any case we couldn't even talk about the theme being a replacement for Dr Who because Dr Who has never a theme on its own. It only existed in the Dimensions and Ideas lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucarex Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Puresh said: I'm not a car expert myself but isn't that the DB10 James Bond has in the newer movies? That being said IF we do get a figure it'll very likely be Craig. As someone who loves the newer Bond movies this is awesome even though I'm starting to worry we will even get a figure of Bond at all since it's a Creator Expert set At a quick first glance, I also assumed it was a DB10 (first revealed by AM in Spectre) but on closer look (front skirt and curves) it looks more like an older Vanquish. That it's placed in the Creator line alongside the VW Camper, Mini et al means there'll be no minifig. So I wonder why they needed/tweeted/promoted the Bond license in that case? Edited June 22, 2018 by Lucarex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x105Black Posted June 22, 2018 12 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said: A bit of an insult to Whovians for LEGO to make James Bond sets over more Doctor Who ones. I know which would make them more money, and it's not LEGO James Bond. If you feel that way, you could go one further and think of it as an insult to you, personally, since you're clearly the biggest fan of LEGO and Doctor Who. I'm a bit disappointed it's not a minifigure scale car with a Bond minifigure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAB Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lucarex said: So I wonder why they needed/tweeted/promoted the Bond license in that case? And given the speed that the James Bond group replied, there was clearly some pre-planned marketing going on. Without the James Bond license / link, it will put some off. I was hoping for something along the line of the IDEAS BTTF or Ecto-1 sets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger of Bricks Posted June 22, 2018 Here's the catalog image for those wondering: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucarex Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Assume the hyphen means that the Chinese text reads "Aston-Martin"? I know they're still current sets, but the juxtaposition of those older utility vehicles alongside the Vanquish looks a bit odd. It needs the retired F40 in there. 28 minutes ago, MAB said: And given the speed that the James Bond group replied, there was clearly some pre-planned marketing going on. Without the James Bond license / link, it will put some off. I was hoping for something along the line of the IDEAS BTTF or Ecto-1 sets. Quite. Seems a bit of a p-tease and letdown now, if that proves to be the case. Oh and looking at the Mini and Routemaster, with an Aston on the way, the obvious gap is there for an old-style London black taxi. I'm calling it now for 2019 release Edited June 22, 2018 by Lucarex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whovastron Posted June 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Digger of Bricks said: While I have my own reasons for not wanting a James Bond license to go any further than this one set (whatever that set may be), I do honestly think James Bond would make more profit for TLG over Doctor Who, primarily because Bond is an American film franchise based upon a British subject matter while Doctor Who is strictly British in all respects. Point being, Bond may have broader audiences on both sides of the Atlantic over Doctor Who for those speculated reasons. Actually Bond films are British made Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucarex Posted June 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Whovastron said: Actually Bond films are British made Yep. Eon Productions is about as British as it gets in the filmmaking industry, not sure why Digger believes Bond is an American franchise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAB Posted June 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Whovastron said: Actually Bond films are British made While they are British made, there is a lot of American money behind them. And of course, a lot of American (in fact, worldwide) interest at the box office which is really the key thing for LEGO sales rather than where / who makes them. Whereas Doctor Who is firmly British with much less American (and worldwide) interest in it. 1 minute ago, Lucarex said: Yep. Eon Productions is about as British as it gets in the filmmaking industry Yet owned by Americans, which is where the confusion comes from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny1360 Posted June 22, 2018 Maybe someone could help me with the translation on that poster, it came out as, hurry up fat monkey, for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scatmanjack Posted June 22, 2018 Co-worker translated Chinese text as - 'Limited New Product - Coming Soon'... No Set name or description... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tariq j Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Lucarex said: At a quick first glance, I also assumed it was a DB10 (first revealed by AM in Spectre) but on closer look (front skirt and curves) it looks more like an older Vanquish. That it's placed in the Creator line alongside the VW Camper, Mini et al means there'll be no minifig. So I wonder why they needed/tweeted/promoted the Bond license in that case? Definitely seems to be one of the two, it could even be the DBS from Casino Royale. The DB10 would make the most sense since I guess it’s the most recent iteration, but either one would do. It’d good they’ve gone for the creator scale since if they do move round to doing the DB5 they’ll be ab,e to include all the various functions and gadgets, something a minifigure scale car might not have been able to do. Maybe they might include a minifigure on a stand, like they did with the Tumbler. The DB10 had an ejector seat, so I guess as well that makes it unique to Bond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maple Posted June 22, 2018 I'm hugely disappointed it's not part of the Speed Champion theme. That seems like such a waste. Have 2-3 Bond cars a year, have dual sets with the 60s and present day models. Even without the Bond figures (which might be a licensing issue) I think they would be much better than another Creator car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMD Posted June 22, 2018 I hope it’s a vanquish so everyone’s heads explode at such a horrible choice. One of the worst bond movies ever and a bland car to boot. praying for a bad marketing department and that’s the first AM silhouette they could find. DB5 or bust! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEGODalekbuster523 Posted June 22, 2018 21 hours ago, Digger of Bricks said: While I have my own reasons for not wanting a James Bond license to go any further than this one set (whatever that set may be), I do honestly think James Bond would make more profit for TLG over Doctor Who, primarily because Bond is an American film franchise based upon a British subject matter while Doctor Who is strictly British in all respects. Point being, Bond may have broader audiences on both sides of the Atlantic over Doctor Who for those speculated reasons. You've got to be joking. James Bond is hugely popular, but it's a fraction of the popularity of Doctor Who. You don't have live shows announcing the next James Bond, or James Bond World Tours. 16 hours ago, J4ck said: , if it really did good enough Lego would have made more just like ghostbusters, but it didn’t so please stop complaining and moaning. The Doctor Who sets made a fortune for LEGO. They sold out in no time, yet for some reason they think James Bond is more popular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icm Posted June 22, 2018 ...It's not a competition between James Bond and Doctor Who. The announcement of a James Bond license (for, possibly, a single set) says little or nothing about any potential for a revived Doctor Who license. If every license connected to Dimensions and Ideas had to be exploited to its fullest potential before a new license could be acquired, we'd have a full range of vignettes based on Beatles album covers and playsets for every location ever visited by the A-Team. Even if you're Doctor Who's biggest fan and you have reams of market analysis to back up your claims about the relative profit potential in a revived Doctor Who license versus a new James Bond license, it's just...not worth getting worked up about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Nemo Posted June 22, 2018 I don't know why the hell we need to be talking about Doctor Who here at all? @LEGODalekbuster523 - STOP interjecting Doctor Who into everything. We've told you this multiple times. I'm not going to say it again. --- Now let's talk about Lego Bond please... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falconfan1414 Posted June 22, 2018 I hope they actually use the James Bond license and include stuff that would make it “James Bond’s” Aston Martin and not use the license just to mark up the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
julesvincent Posted June 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Captain Nemo said: I don't know why the hell we need to be talking about Doctor Who here at all? @LEGODalekbuster523 - STOP interjecting Doctor Who into everything. We've told you this multiple times. I'm not going to say it again. --- Now let's talk about Lego Bond please... Thank you sooo much for this! 18 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said: I hope they actually use the James Bond license and include stuff that would make it “James Bond’s” Aston Martin and not use the license just to mark up the price Ideally we‘ll get something like the DeLorean with parts to build it in 3 different ways. Maybe there will be an instruction for the plain car itself and an instruction and additional parts for a Bond version with gimmicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodiziorobs Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) I've gotta say I never expected to see Bond in Lego. Thirteen-year old me would have been ecstatic. But adult me, who recently tried revisiting the film franchise, says, "eh, the old movies really don't hold up any more. The story, action, and dialogue were usually bad, the sexual politics appalling, the portrayal of race/racism really off-putting, and there is really very little redeeming about the whole franchise, other than playing GoldenEye on 64 back in the day." Adult me also thinks back on teenage me who read a handful of the books and realized even then what kind of guy Fleming must have been (turns out I was right). As I said, I tried revisiting the films, and it was rough. I couldn't bring myself to finish half the movies I started, they were so bad. Cinema has come such a long way since the 60's (or even the 00's) in terms of technique and effects, but also the stories we tell and how we tell those stories. Nowadays Bond feels more like a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur" than ever before. (IIRC, those are Judy Dench's exact words from one of the films). Now I don't think the character or franchise is beyond redemption, and I guess that the film franchise has tried to address its past recently? (I don't know, I haven't seen all the Craig ones, since I find him...bland), but I think it will be interesting to see how they roll out the marketing on this one. Edit: ah, turns out its probably a car and not a full-blown theme. Well, I take back what I said, then; that is one redeeming feature of the Bond franchise in modern times: the vehicles (and gadgets) always were cool. Well played, Lego. Edited June 23, 2018 by rodiziorobs Saw the image above, added Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikhkin Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) I never expected them to make a more modern Aston-Martin under the Bond license. I always assumed they'd go for the more iconic and recognisable DB5. Not that I am complaining, I've been hoping Lego would make a modern Aston for years. I just assumed it would be Speed Champions rather than Creator Expert. In case anyone is wondering, the Chinese catalogue just says "Coming soon for new products". Edited June 23, 2018 by nikhkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucarex Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, LEGODalekbuster523 said: You've got to be joking. James Bond is hugely popular, but it's a fraction of the popularity of Doctor Who. You don't have live shows announcing the next James Bond, or James Bond World Tours. The Doctor Who sets made a fortune for LEGO. They sold out in no time, yet for some reason they think James Bond is more popular. Delusional. Half the world's population have seen a Bond film, and it's a global event whenever a new movie (24 and counting) comes out or there's an actor change. They make BILLIONS. That's why Lego have secured the licence. I doubt even half your street has seen a Dr Who episode or even cares. Outside of the UK, those figures drop off the cliff entirely. Look I personally have no interest in Harry Potter, books or Lego sets, yet the fact they're being exhum...err sorry rereleased doesn't mean I repeatedly spam those threads with complaints above how, say, the Twilight series would be more popular and make more money for Lego. Because 1) it's patently not true, 2) I have respect for fellow bricksters who absolutely love HP Think you'd be better off spending your time on other forums amongst fellow Whovians. (sorry mods) ... Back on Aston Martin then, and with Bond 25 soon to start filming, it seems we may already know what his next ride is... *WARNING! MAY CAUSE EXCESSIVE DROOLING* The rear definitely has some DB5 in it. Edited June 23, 2018 by Lucarex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
