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Another upcoming Friends set with some nice pirate-y contents is https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41378-dolfijnen-reddingsactie.html, which includes a cool shipwreck, the new coral piece and sea creature accessory pack, and a piece of Sand Yellow (Dark Tan) cloth that reacts with water to reveal a treasure map!

Similar new pieces appear in https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41380-reddingscentrum-in-de-vuurtoren.html and https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41381-reddingsboot.html, the last of which also has pirate ship hull elements in white (previously seen in the Dolphin Cruiser set) and Vibrant Coral. But I figure the shipwreck would be of the most interest to folks here as far as pieces are concerned, since the others are pricier and have a lot more parts/colors that might be a little bright for the tastes of historic builders.

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15 hours ago, Aanchir said:

Another upcoming Friends set with some nice pirate-y contents is https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41378-dolfijnen-reddingsactie.html, which includes a cool shipwreck, the new coral piece and sea creature accessory pack, and a piece of Sand Yellow (Dark Tan) cloth that reacts with water to reveal a treasure map!

Similar new pieces appear in https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41380-reddingscentrum-in-de-vuurtoren.html and https://misterbricks.nl/lego-friends-41381-reddingsboot.html, the last of which also has pirate ship hull elements in white (previously seen in the Dolphin Cruiser set) and Vibrant Coral. But I figure the shipwreck would be of the most interest to folks here as far as pieces are concerned, since the others are pricier and have a lot more parts/colors that might be a little bright for the tastes of historic builders.

Some pretty cool new pieces in those sets, thanks for mentioning them.

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12 hours ago, x105Black said:

So it's basically a Pirates theme for girls, set in modern times. 

IDK, the context in which the Pirate-ish stuff appears in these themes (i.e. as the hiding place of sunken treasures or an ocean animal habitat) reminds me more of the 1997 Divers, 2007 Aquaraiders, and 2015 Deep Sea Explorers sets.

Though thinking about it, depending on how they frame this in the story, I wonder whether LEGO might ever consider using a story arc like this that fleshes out the history of the area around Heartlake City as setup for a spinoff theme set in the area’s past… it could certainly be a neat new direction to take!

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On 4/26/2019 at 5:39 PM, Aanchir said:

IDK, the context in which the Pirate-ish stuff appears in these themes (i.e. as the hiding place of sunken treasures or an ocean animal habitat) reminds me more of the 1997 Divers, 2007 Aquaraiders, and 2015 Deep Sea Explorers sets.

Though thinking about it, depending on how they frame this in the story, I wonder whether LEGO might ever consider using a story arc like this that fleshes out the history of the area around Heartlake City as setup for a spinoff theme set in the area’s past… it could certainly be a neat new direction to take!

Yeah, so I guess it's kind of in between Pirates and those underwater themes.  And as much as I would prefer a great new Pirate theme, a Pirate-like spinoff of Friends could be interesting.

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Sorry if my reply has nothing to do with pirates, but I always feel like LEGO puts a lot more effort into the friends line/themes. This new ocean/explorer/coast guard theme would be a wonderfull city set. Alle the pink, lime green and light blue is to girly (I know it's a theme aimed at girls :p ).

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1 hour ago, *thomas* said:

Sorry if my reply has nothing to do with pirates, but I always feel like LEGO puts a lot more effort into the friends line/themes. This new ocean/explorer/coast guard theme would be a wonderfull city set. Alle the pink, lime green and light blue is to girly (I know it's a theme aimed at girls :p ).

Compared to what?

City has had their Deep Sea subtheme in 2015, and Coast Guard in 2008, 2013, 2017, so it's not like City had nothing recently.

Even right now there's a Creator 3-in-1 set with an underwater mech/submarine build, and a City diving boat + Sea accesoires Xtra set.

I do say the Friends Ocean subtheme for 2019 is very well done with great new parts, but other then the new parts, many things could be color swapped and easily fit minifigs if people so desire, it's LEGO.

 

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6 hours ago, *thomas* said:

Sorry if my reply has nothing to do with pirates, but I always feel like LEGO puts a lot more effort into the friends line/themes. This new ocean/explorer/coast guard theme would be a wonderfull city set. Alle the pink, lime green and light blue is to girly (I know it's a theme aimed at girls :p ).

I think if anything they simply concentrate the same amount of effort in different areas of the build. When you compare, say, https://brickset.com/sets/60204-1/City-Hospital with https://brickset.com/sets/41318-1/Heartlake-Hospital, their weights, piece counts, price tags, and target age are fairly similar, yet the City version has:

  • cool, dynamic shapes with bold colors
  • more figures
  • a more complex architectural layout (in terms of its right-angle arrangement)
  • less interior space and detail

Whereas the Friends version has:

  • cute, bubbly shapes with gentle colors
  • fewer figures
  • a pretty straightforward dollhouse-style modular structure
  • more interior space and detail

Of course you do see areas where sets of the same subject are much more different, but that's often because these areas of emphasis are suited to different price points. For example, with regard to cabin cruisers/motor yachts, City ones like https://brickset.com/sets/4642-1/Fishing-Boat and https://brickset.com/sets/60221-1/Diving-Yacht are usually at a $20 price point because they don't bother with much interior detail besides, at most, a bed or desk. Whereas Friends cabin cruisers/motor yachts like https://brickset.com/sets/41015-1/Dolphin-Cruiser and https://brickset.com/sets/41317-1/Sunshine-Catamaran tend towards a $70 price point (same as most LEGO Friends houses) because they want to pack in enough interior detail for a reasonably comfortable overnight outing: twin beds, a toilet, a shower, a kitchenette, a living room/lounge, etc.

If LEGO were to make a Pirates-equivalent theme for girls, I suspect some changes they might make from traditional Pirates sets besides colors/aesthetics would include:

  • More animals… and not strictly of the might-kill-you variety like sharks and alligators.
  • More places to cook/eat besides over a campfire. I know that Imperial Flagship had a galley kitchen, but most non-D2C Pirates sets do not.
  • Places to sleep, particularly since LEGO has now already had hammock pieces in other themes. Nowadays even in LEGO City most jail/prison sets include beds, if uncomfortable looking ones, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to do so in a Pirates theme
  • More female characters, including a female pirate captain. There were several famous ones in real life, so this wouldn't be a difficult or unbelievable change.
  • More emphasis on natural scenery. Not that Pirates doesn't have any of this already, but it's usually been pretty sparse compared to man-made structures like shacks and forts, and rarely included stuff like detailed animal habitats.
  • More interior play features in forts/outposts so they seem like a place where people live and work, not just structures to defend
  • Possibly more civilian port towns rather than just naval fortifications.
  • More fantasy stuff like mermaids, sea monsters and magical treasures.
  • Fewer figures per set, but with more detailed characterization, some of which will be apparent not just in story media but in the figure designs and the sets that contextualize them.

That said, I don't mean to imply this as an immediate possibility/likelihood. Not sure how trendy pirates are with preteen girls at this point in time.

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On 4/26/2019 at 4:39 PM, Aanchir said:

IDK, the context in which the Pirate-ish stuff appears in these themes (i.e. as the hiding place of sunken treasures or an ocean animal habitat) reminds me more of the 1997 Divers, 2007 Aquaraiders, and 2015 Deep Sea Explorers sets.

Though thinking about it, depending on how they frame this in the story, I wonder whether LEGO might ever consider using a story arc like this that fleshes out the history of the area around Heartlake City as setup for a spinoff theme set in the area’s past… it could certainly be a neat new direction to take!

I've been waiting on that for years; the pirate Dark Eyed Kate has been a part of the Friends lore for awhile. (Apparently there was a whole TV episode about her in 2017; but I seem to remember her being mentioned first in a Friends treasure hunt book years before that...)

TC

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On 4/26/2019 at 7:00 PM, x105Black said:

So it's basically a Pirates theme for girls, set in modern times. 

Not like it has't been done before... Check out the 1990's Paradisa theme...

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2015 Friends had a Lighthouse set as well (with a classic Pirate's rowboat in pink :laugh:)

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It does look like the groundwork is being laid for a minidolls pirates theme. The parts development for this line alone proves that Lego is willing to expand the minidolls' universe.

I'm just hoping that 'coral' piece gets produced in more terrestrial plant colors.

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10 hours ago, gedren_y said:

It does look like the groundwork is being laid for a minidolls pirates theme.

:pir-sick:

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