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[MOC] Mercedes-Benz AMG C63 DTM manual and RC in 1:10 scale

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In 2017 the AMG company is celebrating its 50th jubilee - congratulations on this occasion!

Now here is my tribute, although it wasn´t the main intention to build for that purpose.

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Back in 2015 we´ve had a fun project, the BMW M4 DTM which was echoed by fellows around here far more than I expected and it opened many opportunities for cooperation with other specialists to round up the MOC. Together with Lipko´s Audi RS5 DTM a Mercedes still was missing in the line-up of some collectors though. One of them, our dear EB fellow filus followed the idea strongly and thanks to his accompaniment we elaborated the AMG C63 DTM racecar of the 2015 season.

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The whole project turned out to generate more fun (and challenges) as assumed. To make everything more interesting, a lot more time has been invested than planned first and more diversity was created resulting in 2 different chassis – manual and PF. On top 2 different exchangeable liveries. The quality of the model was on priority and can be considered as far better than the quality of e.g. the BMW M4 DTM. Parts rarely fall off when the car meets bumps and walls. You can even lift the car by the roof without damaging anything. Testing both models with kids of all ages between 2 and 10 years showed some robustness and reliability above average. Thanks to all participants involved in the process!

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Custom stickers were provided by Jaap (Jaap Technic) again, who did a fabulous job, and these really made up the icing on the cake.

Thorsten Spelz produced extraordinary detailed separate instructions for both chassis and both liveries which allows to choose the desired individual setup and color scheme. Sorry in advance that these can´t be offered for free, because too many careful efforts, costly parts and countless hours of work have gone into the project.

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Manual chassis:

Most of the development has gone into the manual chassis. I had to try it once and I´m glad I managed to make a “simple” but fool proof shifting mechanism which relies on shock springs only. No rubber bands used and the shifting parts itself retract by gravity only (which doesn´t allow 10 shifts per second though, who cares). Especially the beautiful engine sound is a nice feature – btw it´s also a kind of gear indicator – after some time playing you can distinguish the actual selected gear by the different sound and resistance while pushing the car. A white 24-teeth gear has been installed between differential and gearbox, preventing gears from damage when pushed too hard – a bit similar to the 42056 Porsche setup ;-).

-         dimensions  in studs (L/W): 61/25

-          independent wheel suspension

-          4 – speed gearbox

-          2 manual shifters (up and down) and steering in comfortable position above the rear axle

-          working steering wheel

-          mini fake V8 engine

 

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RC chassis:

Nothing special and no new big achievements here probably. Anyway I´m very satisfied how good all together works. The XL motor geared down 3:1 works flawlessly together with the L motor geared down by 5:3 ratio – absolutely no grinding at the differential between both motors which is another good indicator of efficiency. As you can see in the video, the cars´ speed is reasonable for indoor and is almost the same compared to the BMW (stronger) equipment. Comparison here: BMW is driven by 2 XL motors; gear reduction 3:1.

-          dimensions in studs (L/W): 61/25

-          independent wheel suspension

-          remote driving and steering

-          LED lights

-          PF equipment: 1 XL motor + 1 L motor for drive, 1 servo motor for steering, 1 pole reverser, 3 LED pairs (2 front, 1 rear), 1 extension wire, 1 battery, 1 IR V2 receiver, 1 IR remote

-          SBrick compatible (replaces receiver, remote and pole reverser)

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  Bodywork

 dimensions in studs: length 61 studs (without rear spoiler); width 25 studs (without mirrors); height 15,5 studs

-          openable doors

-          easily removable rear spoiler and engine hood

-          custom stickers corresponding the looks of the real cars

-          roll cage under the roof

-          Technic panels count: 51

 

“Silberpfeil” livery - #6 Robert Wickens

The new orange parts from the 42056 set allowed replicating the distinguished color scheme of this nice livery. I like especially that the round shaped roof could be made using the 13x3 bowed panels.  Unfortunately Silver beams and panels are not really available, so these parts have been made in white. The stickers with the particular energy tin make it very special IMO.

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 “AMG” livery - #3 Paul di Resta

The white/black color combo may seem nothing spectacular nowadays, but with the slight red accents and the stickers in particular it makes an equal counterpart to the other variant. The roof couldn´t be built the same way and its shape turned out a bit different, unfortunately the new 13x3 bowed panels, to be released in 2H in black color, were too far on the horizon during the design process. Anyway the overall parts availability is great and I guess this version will be the preferred option for most who want to rebuild it.

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And here the mandatory videos:

 

 

 

 

More pictures can be seen at my bricksafe.

Instructions and stickers are available.

 

Enjoy and have fun :wink:!

Edited by brunojj1

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Amen.

Excellent work! So this was what you were working on. Nice to see the shift levers in operation. I also very much like how you can grab the car by the bottom and shake the car without anything falling off.

I'd say "grab 'm by the bottom and shake'm! :wink:"

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I wasn't finished.

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Another master piece from you! I really like how you captured the shape of the car, almost every detail, it's just a pleasure to look at it. Not a big fan of your M4 DTM's door and backend, cuz I think they are a liitle too "bulky". But for this one, it's just PERFECT!

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This is amazing,  you really know how to capture the shape of a car.  I'd love do see a bare bones version with no decals,  well done :)! 

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42043's Benz star is looking good here. Very recognizable model :thumbup:

 

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Wow, very nice ! :thumbup:

(you make me doubt my decision to concentrate on 1:8 MOC's only... :grin:)

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Fantastic! :wub_drool::wub_drool::wub_drool:
It is interesting that it uses the same bowed panels on the roof as my hatchback and 42056 GT3 RS do. When I built Porsche set, I thought those panels were a little bit too rounder for the curved roof of 1:8 supercar. Then I found them fitting well in my smaller scale model. Now it also seems fitting on the roof of 1:10 race car.

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Great looking cars. :wub: 

Question about the manual version, that mini V8 that sits way up in the front, can you actually see it when you open the hood or is it just a noise maker?

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I absolutely love this car!!!! Your attention  to detail and creativity continues to hit new heights. The panel scoops on the side of the vehicle are super original.

Using the big curved tooth at the front of the grill is genius. I am speechless... :wub: HOF worthy!

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Gorgeous!  Is the body interchangeable between manual and RC?

Is this the first model which uses both XL and L motors for drive at the same time?

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Great models!:wub:

Clean lines and sturdy at the same time, that is impressive. Those stickers really add to the presence. The side scoops are inventive, but although I'm sure they are a good replica of the real thing, they do make the sides look a bit messy I think.

Is the bodywork completely modular, or is it integrated into the chassis?

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Those are wonderful! Please complete the lineup and design the Audi too. I'm not being false modest and I honestly think that your models are not on the save level with my Audi.

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They are both excellent! :wub: I like how you used the upside-down panels for the air intakes. These are the kinds of models that make me wish I had more parts so I could build them. 

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Thanks to you all for the positive feedback, guys! You make my day :blush: :thumbup:.

3 hours ago, brickhank said:

Wow, very nice ! :thumbup:

(you make me doubt my decision to concentrate on 1:8 MOC's only... :grin:)

I made that decision too at some time when some lava orange car came around the corner :tongue:... We will see what the future will bring.

3 hours ago, Madoca 1977 said:

Fantastic! :wub_drool::wub_drool::wub_drool:
It is interesting that it uses the same bowed panels on the roof as my hatchback and 42056 GT3 RS do. When I built Porsche set, I thought those panels were a little bit too rounder for the curved roof of 1:8 supercar. Then I found them fitting well in my smaller scale model. Now it also seems fitting on the roof of 1:10 race car.

Thanks man, it means a lot! You have found at least one more creative way to use these panels.

2 hours ago, Meatman said:

Great looking cars. :wub: 

Question about the manual version, that mini V8 that sits way up in the front, can you actually see it when you open the hood or is it just a noise maker?

Yeah, unfortunately you will barely see it from above, even if you remove the easily detachable engine hood (attached only by 4x 4L axles with stop). From the side, looking through the wheel house, you can see the pistons moving though.

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2 hours ago, technic_addict said:

Gorgeous!  Is the body interchangeable between manual and RC?

Is this the first model which uses both XL and L motors for drive at the same time?

Yes, you can choose any of the bodies to mount on top of one of both chassis. 

I don´t know if somebody tried to couple XL and L motors before, at least I did it already in a few models so far. If you mix the gear reductions addequately, such as 3:1 (XL) and 5:3 (L), you come to the right torque equivalent and both motors support each other in a nice way. I had to install a pole reverser though between one of the motors, because both motors are connected to the same channel - otherwise the outputs would turn in opposing directions.

1 hour ago, Jeroen Ottens said:

Great models!:wub:

Clean lines and sturdy at the same time, that is impressive. Those stickers really add to the presence. The side scoops are inventive, but although I'm sure they are a good replica of the real thing, they do make the sides look a bit messy I think.

Is the bodywork completely modular, or is it integrated into the chassis?

Thanks Jeroen, I appreciate your critique about the "aerodynamic" scoops :thumbup:, although I still think they fit rather properly than look messy.

The bodywork cannot be called really modular, but I tried to use as few subassemblies as possible. Would be a very nice challenge to try a complete detachable body some day.

1 hour ago, technic_addict said:

I have also noticed on rebrickable that this model as well as the BMW parts list calls out a regular IR instead of a V2.

As far as I know, V2 receivers have become very rare. The rechargeable accumulator has been replaced by a cheaper battery as well, to not scare off some people about the estimated total parts cost :wink:...

43 minutes ago, Lipko said:

Those are wonderful! Please complete the lineup and design the Audi too. I'm not being false modest and I honestly think that your models are not on the save level with my Audi.

Thanks, Maté! I´m sorry, this never will happen, I have some other projects in the (long) queue. I have big respect for your Audi - it is good as it is, otherwise you wouldn´t have been invited to the track and to the real Audi staff. Let others compare the cars in the lineup, we both don´t need to do it IMO :blush:.

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22 minutes ago, brunojj1 said:

Yes, you can choose any of the bodies to mount on top of one of both chassis. 

I don´t know if somebody tried to couple XL and L motors before, at least I did it already in a few models so far. If you mix the gear reductions addequately, such as 3:1 (XL) and 5:3 (L), you come to the right torque equivalent and both motors support each other in a nice way. I had to install a pole reverser though between one of the motors, because both motors are connected to the same channel - otherwise the outputs would turn in opposing directions.

As far as I know, V2 receivers have become very rare. The rechargeable accumulator has been replaced by a cheaper battery as well, to not scare off some people about the estimated total parts cost :wink:...

 

Curious as to why you chose to go with a XL and L instead of say two XL's like one of the BMW PF versions?

I understand the V2's are far more rare and expensive; however, it may be a little misleading to people getting all the parts and using a regular IR and finding out the car keeps stalling.

The V2 is actually not so bad when you consider the sticker price, instruction cost, and those darn wheel covers! :look:

 

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19 minutes ago, technic_addict said:

Curious as to why you chose to go with a XL and L instead of say two XL's like one of the BMW PF versions?

I understand the V2's are far more rare and expensive; however, it may be a little misleading to people getting all the parts and using a regular IR and finding out the car keeps stalling.

The V2 is actually not so bad when you consider the sticker price, instruction cost, and those darn wheel covers! :look:

The given chassis of the manual version had to be adapted for RC and this solution seemed to be suitable regarding available space, since the bodywork and coresponding attachment points should stay.

You argument about the V2 is valid. I really had no intention to mislead people. However - I have changed the iventory to V2, although a normal one will work fine as well. Moreover TLC has updated V1 recently and most people buy it from there, although I don´t know how its performance has been improved exactly.

A good (not equal of course) replacement for the darn expensive wheel covers would be these 3D - printed wheel covers from sevenstuds, which I´m using too as alternatives.

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9 minutes ago, brunojj1 said:

A good (not equal of course) replacement for the darn expensive wheel covers would be these 3D - printed wheel covers from sevenstuds, which I´m using too as alternatives.

My current plan from the four I have is to put only two per supercar on one side only.  Obviously the side which it is displayed on. :laugh:

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Amazing model!  Looking forward to displaying it next to the BMW and the Ferrari 458.  Now that 11x3 curved panels are going to be available in black, do you think it would be easy for a builder to convert the roof of the AMG model to use them using the Silber instructions, or are there other changes to the roof that would make that difficult?

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