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Didumos, great to see it finished. I like mechanical part a lot. And i like all these straight/curved Pythagorean lines of the bodywork. For me it looks a bit hollow, but i think 8880 is much more "hollower", if it's comparable. Great MOC, i will build this if have an opportunity and parts)

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On 5-2-2017 at 6:08 AM, Kronos123 said:

I want this on my shelf with my Crowkiller and Lipko models. 

I regard that as a big complement! Thanks! I plan to offer instructions, but that will take a while.

On 5-2-2017 at 7:21 AM, Victor Imaginator said:

Didumos, great to see it finished. I like mechanical part a lot. And i like all these straight/curved Pythagorean lines of the bodywork. For me it looks a bit hollow, but i think 8880 is much more "hollower", if it's comparable. Great MOC, i will build this if have an opportunity and parts)

Thanks @Victor Imaginator! If you need an old diff (24t/16t), send me a PM and I send you one :wink:. I have quite a few.

Update: I reworked the hood to make enough space for the front wheels. I also tweaked the suspension. Turned out that pairing soft and hard spring for the front suspension is too weak. So I had to revert to double hard springs for the front suspension, just like for the rear suspension. All works fine without using the axles holding the upper wishbones as torsion bars. However, to get a subtle rake angle I did reintroduce the use of torsion bars for the rear suspension, but this can be skipped when people are a afraid of damaging the axles.

Todo: Improve the way the doors are mounted, restyle the rear wing and recolor the seats.

Here are a few images taken with daylight. I personally like the fact that all mechanisms can be observed through the gaps in the body. You can for instance see the front and rear diffs,

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Awesome. I like how this turned out. It has a cool dune buggy racer vibe going on. Sad to hear that the suspension didn't work without the torsion bars. It's not so much the axle that I was concerned with as much as the parts that the axle is inserted into possibly cracking over time.

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20 hours ago, Victor Imaginator said:

Oh... so i need not only a Porsche for wheels and hubs)

Sorry, don't have any spare Porsches laying around :wink:. I remembered you mentioning you don't have this center diff, on several occasions.

9 hours ago, Dafgek81 said:

WOW 😲 that's one rugged supercar

Thanks!

14 hours ago, Meatman said:

Awesome. I like how this turned out. It has a cool dune buggy racer vibe going on. Sad to hear that the suspension didn't work without the torsion bars. It's not so much the axle that I was concerned with as much as the parts that the axle is inserted into possibly cracking over time.

Thanks! Yeah, without torsion bars would have been nice. At least the hard springs now really add something so the torsion bars and the parts securing them are not stressed much just by the weight of the car. This was the case with the soft springs.

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Quite some people - @Jeroen Ottens, @drakmin, @brunojj1, @Appie - have suggested to change the colors of the seats to make the interior pop-out a little more. So I made some renders with blue, dbg, white and yellow seats. I think the blue one pops out quite nicely. But then again, the DBG one would be a nice reference to Nathanael Kuipers Concept Car - imo the most inspiring Technic car ever. I didn't change the color of the dash because it disturbs the straight-cut black-red division of the body too much.

What is your favorite?

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Blue and DBG for me!

They both look balanced with the model and they both make sense "historically" (original  technic set seat colour & Kuipers car as inspiration)

If this was my own design I still might use tan seats to represent leather. If I've understood your design philosophy correctly then then the leather is no option here :D Anyway here's a quick photoshopped leather version, hope you don't mind :) (not sure if the parts even exist in tan)

Thanks for entertaining thread!

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hello.

for me black ones are ok. Just need a thin line of colour in it . Maybe red as the car.

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I'd say blue with white centre instead of lbg.

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I like the blue seats because they match the blue friction pins.

By the way, I started mucking around with the LXF file.  The conversion to LDR isn't perfect, there are some parts that are in the wrong position and/or orientation (edit: there are parts missing as well).  Most of it is pretty easy to fix.  I am in the process of making instructions for the front suspension.  It's one of the most dense components on this build so it may not have been the best subassembly to begin with, but I have now developed a fairly reliable workflow.

I'm guessing the chassis design is locked down, so I'll focus my efforts on that.  I had a question about 3L friction pin color: a lot of them are black, even though they are hidden. Is there a reason for this?  Do you care about the pin coloring?

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16 minutes ago, Appie said:

I'd say blue with white centre instead of lbg.

Yes, or the other way around. I really like the white, but a blue centre contrasts more nicely than the lbg in the above picture, I think...

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1 hour ago, drakmin said:

Blue and DBG for me!

They both look balanced with the model and they both make sense "historically" (original  technic set seat colour & Kuipers car as inspiration)

If this was my own design I still might use tan seats to represent leather. If I've understood your design philosophy correctly then then the leather is no option here :D Anyway here's a quick photoshopped leather version, hope you don't mind :) (not sure if the parts even exist in tan)

Thanks for entertaining thread!

 

I can only agree with Drakmin, an earthlike colour is for me the right balance for this car. White, yellow and blue (to a bit lesser extent) pop too much for my taste, DBG is not enough colour for me.

And I am still interested in seeing a black door, especially with coloured seats... :wink:

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I would choose some gentle color, which is present, but not pushy visually - thus the focus remains on the car body. My vote goes for LBG or TAN.

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DBG please! Awesome MOC, can't wait to source the parts and build it!

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I really like this car. For some reason it has a Lotus kind of feel for me. Don't know why. I really like the red-and-black color scheme. Much better than the all-black from a few pages back. The lines are so much more visible here in red.

About seats, I wouldn't do a bright color like yellow or white. Orange, not sure either. Blue looks better. I think light gray or dark gray would be the best options.

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No for the yellow or white. The blue looks alright and mirrors so many LEGO designs, which is a benefit to me. The DBG or LBG option would be great too. Especially if you go with one, and use the other as an accent color.

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Wow, thank you all for thinking with me!

You have convinced me that I should go with a color that doesn't stand out too much, so white and yellow are no go's. I'm still thinking of building a second 8880-colored version later and will leave the white seats for that one.

I''m also sensitive to the 'earthy'-argument, but somehow tan colors are not my favorite. Although I agree that tan matches a leather-look, it feels like aged and worn out or rusty plastic to me. So that's no option either. I like the suggestion of combining blue with white, but in the bottom half of the seat there are bushes, gears and special parts (for the adjustment mechanism) that are only available in bluisch gray.

Final argument that I'm sensitive to is that I should use a color that's already present. So altogther that leaves me with two options: DBG/LBG or blue/LBG (blue is indeed already present by means of blue pins). I have a slight preference for DBG/LBG, but I don't want to uncheck the blue option completely.

@BusterHaus, what a great initiative. I did update the chassis yesterday; I made the LXF reflect the changes I made to the suspension and a few other changes I made during building last week. Here is the latest LXF-file. It also includes some changes to the way the bottom of the rear window and spoiler are mounted. Last weekend we had friends over and when they grabbed the car by the spoiler, the entire spoiler and rear window came off. So now you can also "grab 'm by the spoiler" :wink:. If you are serious about putting effort into instructions I guess we are going to have to exchange some information. To build the entire chassis for instance, it is required to start with the mid-section - the shifter and the gearbox - and work your way to the front and rear modules. About the black 3L pins. In the chassis these can be replaced with blue ones, except for the ones in the dashboard and the seats. I also included these changes in the latest LXF.

@Jeroen Ottens, here is a version with black doors (and fully LBG seats). I'm afraid I like the red doors with a black top line more. Now that I look again I don't know; the black doors seem to melt together with the rest of the black top. I need some time to decide on this.

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So, to be clear, these are the two options I will eventually choose from:

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Maybe i just don't like blue... Maybe blue looks somewhat wrong with red. LBG/DBG version looks better, as i think. Blue seats will fit perfectly, if bodywork was white/LBG. So many possibilites, but final decision is only yours)

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