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4 minutes ago, morthaur said:

The wall part in the video was just used this year (in white) for the temple in the Raya & Sisu Dragon set. 

You are correct about the part in the video, but I think he was referring to this part.

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34 minutes ago, gedren_y said:

You are correct about the part in the video, but I think he was referring to this part.

Ah, that part was retired in favor of the new wall panels way back in the Kingdoms era. I wouldn’t expect to see it again. 

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On 3/29/2021 at 3:58 AM, Lego David said:

I'm not so sure about that... The Castle shown in the video looks way too good for a Creator set, with some pretty advanced building techniques that look way ahead of what Creator 3 in 1 usually offers. On top of that, that Castle also clearly used one of those pre-fab Castle walls, which there is no way they'd use that sort of piece in a Creator set, and on top of that, the mold hasn't been used in almost a decade, so it may well be discontinued by now.

What "advanced building techniques" are you referring to? Because honestly, none of the building techniques there seem any more advanced to me than in the 3-in-1 Pirate Ship or Space Rover Explorer. The castle is primarily a studs-up construction, with just a few simple SNOT techniques used for the stonework. And the only visible part of the build that is hinged in any manner is the drawbridge. By contrast, both the Pirate Ship and Space Rover Explorer sets made much more extensive use of hinges and SNOT techniques in every one of their builds.

I also don't think it'd be that unusual for the 4x5 castle wall panels to show up in a 3-in-1 set, especially if used this sparingly. For one, your claim that the mold in question has been out of use for almost a decade is entirely incorrect. In fact, it's been used in more than 20 sets in just the the past five years, including two sets released just this month! So I can assure you with absolute certainty that it hasn't been discontinued.

Moreover, plenty of 3-in-1 sets (including recent ones) have included even larger or more specialized molds: for example, 1x6x5 wall panels3x3x6 corner wall panels, 5x4x2 half-cylinder panels, 4x4x6 quarter-cylinder panels, 1x4x6 door/window frames, 1x4x6 tripartite window frames, 4x4x6 corner door/window frames, 7x7 siege engine wheels, and 3x8x7 mountain bricks. So why would a couple of castle wall panels be any more of a deal-breaker than any of those?

On 3/29/2021 at 12:01 PM, gedren_y said:

You are correct about the part in the video, but I think he was referring to this part.

Yeah, that part is definitely discontinued, but as you say, it doesn't show up anywhere in the build I was referring to from that LEGO Ideas video. So that's pretty much a moot point.

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12 hours ago, Itaria No Shintaku said:

I have been told that the set is "big".
 

I can believe that. According to Promobricks, it’s Euro 100 and about 1500 parts.

For comparison, the 3-in-1 Creator Pirate Ship (set 31109) is that price point and 1264 pieces. So perhaps the Castle will also be around 1300 parts (1500 being something of an exaggeration). To give a ship’s hull curvature without using large, specialised pieces requires lots of fairly small parts. A castle has no such limitation. So with the same number of parts, you can make a bigger castle than you can a ship as the pieces can be larger.

So I’m not expecting an enormous structure, but certainly something larger than the Pirate Ship, which itself is fairly substantial.

Hope we get the first images soon!

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17 hours ago, Itaria No Shintaku said:

I have been told that the set is "big".
I mean, I know it doesn't add pretty anything, but I felt like saying it.

That's a good sign for me anyway.  Hopefully it looks good too.  

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I wonder how many "panel" pieces it would have compared to more standard bricks.

3-in-1 usually has more basic bricks/plates, for it's alternate builds, but it'd probably has some panels for quick filling since the alternate builds are probably Castles as well.

Those were in the 2020 Mario Bowser set so still in production .

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That said 2013 Castle had under 1000 pieces and was big due to panels 70404-1.jpg?201302010453

10223-1.jpg?201110010258 2012 Joust had 1500+ pieces and pretty much fully brick-built, so piece count alone won't be an easy thing to go by, not to mention a lot of pieces in a set like the Pirate Ship were 1x1s.

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6 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

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About that piece, I've long hoped we'd get these three windscreens (part 1, part 2, part 3) in stone colors so that they could be used with it. I would also like this part in castle building colors to mate with the other usual panels.

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27 minutes ago, gedren_y said:

About that piece, I've long hoped we'd get these three windscreens (part 1, part 2, part 3) in stone colors so that they could be used with it. I would also like this part in castle building colors to mate with the other usual panels.

The last of those hasn't been used since Aquazone, so would be unlikely to appear recolored. The shorter version, on the other hand, has been used quite recently, including in solid colors like black and white, so a light or dark bluish grey version showing up in the future doesn't seem that farfetched.

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On 4/2/2021 at 12:22 PM, TeriXeri said:

I wonder how many "panel" pieces it would have compared to more standard bricks.

3-in-1 usually has more basic bricks/plates, for it's alternate builds, but it'd probably has some panels for quick filling since the alternate builds are probably Castles as well.

The word on the street is that all three builds are indeed castles. (The A build includes a brick-built dragon, the B build has a merchant’s stall and the C build is a tall tower.) So while you’re right that 3-in-1s tend not to include highly specialised parts, it’s still possible we will get some panels for added volume.

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On 3/19/2021 at 7:20 AM, Classic_Spaceman said:

I am not going to get into this discussion - I am just dropping in to point out that the Castle in the Forest Ideas proposal is one of the 31 models being considered for the BrickLink Designer Program. Only 13 of the models will actually be produced, so anyone with a BrickLink account and a desire for more castle sets should support this - Both now, and (obviously) when crowdfunding starts on June 1st. 
 

On 3/19/2021 at 7:57 AM, Poco Lypso said:

TBT - the only reason for me to buy this set would be interesting minifigs and it seems there arent any figs at all.

For those who were wondering, the model has now been confirmed to have Minifigs (mock-ups are shown in the comments). 
 

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10 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

For those who were wondering, the model has now been confirmed to have Minifigs (mock-ups are shown in the comments). 
 

Forgive me if this was covered earlier, how does these bricklink sets work? They’ll be available for order?

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10 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

For those who were wondering, the model has now been confirmed to have Minifigs (mock-ups are shown in the comments).

Yes, but only made from parts in production right :def_shrug:
 

4 minutes ago, Poco Lypso said:

Nice - wonder if we will see a return if the forest men.

It will have forest men as good as the designer can make them from minifig-parts in production, not new figs it would have gotten if it was an Ideas set. However it is fortunate that after several years without a Castle set, the blacksmith was just released so several useful minifig-parts there at least and probably bits and bobs can be found in other themes as well :shrug_oh_well:

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It is probably not even parts in production, but parts lego allows to be used in these sets. They might well end up as plain torsos and parts.

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1 hour ago, MAB said:

It is probably not even parts in production, but parts lego allows to be used in these sets. They might well end up as plain torsos and parts.

On the minifigs, that's still possible, though the creator of this set is moving Heaven and Earth to get available printed minifig parts, and hopes to get permission for a recolored forestmen hat. Though you shouldn't get your hopes up on that last one.

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7 hours ago, HothFan1987 said:

Forgive me if this was covered earlier, how does these bricklink sets work? They’ll be available for order?

It is explained here
 

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13 hours ago, MAB said:

It is probably not even parts in production, but parts lego allows to be used in these sets. They might well end up as plain torsos and parts.

The previous AFOL Designer sets from 2019 only had minifigures with plain torsos and legs, so I am willing to bet they'll do the same here. 

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3 hours ago, Lego David said:

The previous AFOL Designer sets from 2019 only had minifigures with plain torsos and legs, so I am willing to bet they'll do the same here. 

The minifigs in the 2019 castle were just plain (and) boring. They might allow fo some black falcons but that wouldn't be any incentive for me to buy the set at this point.

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If there were the capacity to do their own printing, or even just decals like some aftermarket sellers, then figs wouldn't be a problem. Lots of other details too. Sourcing arms and armor might be an issue. This all depends on how Bricklink sources its parts.

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3 hours ago, gedren_y said:

If there were the capacity to do their own printing, or even just decals like some aftermarket sellers, then figs wouldn't be a problem. Lots of other details too. Sourcing arms and armor might be an issue. This all depends on how Bricklink sources its parts.

But bricklink is part of the lego group now iirc.

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44 minutes ago, Poco Lypso said:

But bricklink is part of the lego group now iirc.

That doesn't necessarily mean these will have access to everything Lego can do internally. This is still very much a small-scale project for Lego, compared to mass-produced sets like the main Ideas program results in—which will likely make things like custom prints or brand-new recolors less likely.

That said, it's possible that they might afford these greater access to other prints that are already in production than the previous AFOL designer program did, which could mean existing torso prints like the Black Falcons torsos could maybe be reused. Hard to say for sure this early on.

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21 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

That doesn't necessarily mean these will have access to everything Lego can do internally. This is still very much a small-scale project for Lego, compared to mass-produced sets like the main Ideas program results in—which will likely make things like custom prints or brand-new recolors less likely.

That said, it's possible that they might afford these greater access to other prints that are already in production than the previous AFOL designer program did, which could mean existing torso prints like the Black Falcons torsos could maybe be reused. Hard to say for sure this early on.

I also doubt they will have access to all the current lego parts but because of not wanting to influence or impinge on the sales/marketing of official lego sets. I also imagine these are going to be picked and packed by lego rather than bricklink as they have indicated that they will ship from Europe and BL doesn't have any staff in Europe. 

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