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7 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

Im not sure about that

I dont know a lot about comics, just a little bit....  but I think the most well-known rogues galleries in mainstream media are

1. Batman

2. Spiderman

These 2 are well above the rest, even getting solo movies like Venom, Joker, Catwoman, Morbius (and the rumored TwoFace movie) 

3. Superman

4. Wonder Woman

5. X-men

DC rogues gallery. Superman has Lex, Bizarro, and Zod that are well known, Wonder Woman has Cheetah (Max isn't a villain. The writer who made him that way expresses remorse, and the creator of Max was telling me yesterday how Max in his eyes in not a villian.) The X-Men have Magneto. Flash has Captain Cold, Heatwave, Trickster, Grodd, Pied Piper, Reverse Flash, Godspeed, Zoom, Savitar, Thinker, Fiddler, Shade, The Top, Atomic Skull, Weather Wizard, Captain Boomerang, Mirror Master, and the list goes on. Most people who read comics agree Flash has one of the greatest rogues galleries. His is what inspired Spider-Man's rogues gallery. 

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9 hours ago, Do1633 said:

DC rogues gallery. Superman has Lex, Bizarro, and Zod that are well known, Wonder Woman has Cheetah (Max isn't a villain. The writer who made him that way expresses remorse, and the creator of Max was telling me yesterday how Max in his eyes in not a villian.) The X-Men have Magneto. Flash has Captain Cold, Heatwave, Trickster, Grodd, Pied Piper, Reverse Flash, Godspeed, Zoom, Savitar, Thinker, Fiddler, Shade, The Top, Atomic Skull, Weather Wizard, Captain Boomerang, Mirror Master, and the list goes on. Most people who read comics agree Flash has one of the greatest rogues galleries. His is what inspired Spider-Man's rogues gallery. 

I think you’ve given some of the other galleries short shrift there, but having a lot of adversaries doesn’t necessarily mean that they make the greatest RG. A quick search puts Flash’s villains in 4th or 7th. The Shade is historically Jay Garrick’s rogue and then not fully committed to a life of crime. Atomic Skull is only a Flash villain in the TV show, otherwise he’s predominantly a Superman foil. Also an integral part of a Lego set is the build, and seeing as they seem to prefer vehicles to buildings there isn’t a lot of scope in that area. I can think of the Flash van from the JL TV series, which was solely for NSFW purposes, the Cosmic Treadmill, which isn’t much of a build challenge, or the Cosmic Motorcycle, even less so. Flash currently has the second highest number of rogues in DC Lego form already, possibly tied with Supes unless you include Lobo and Darkseid as specific Superman villains. Wonder Woman gets Cheetah, big lumbering Ares and Max Lord whether you like it or not, and the four GLs have Sinestro. Aquaman has two, and Shazam and the LoSH have no one. Even Firestorm, Nightwing, and Batgirl have villain representation. Now don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of good customs out there showing us what we’re missing in the purist world, but there are loads of characters that are underrepresented in this line. If we got a quarter of the attention SW gets I would be happy. Stormtroopers get more love than most Super Hero figs.

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Atomic Skull fought the Flash on multiple occasions in the 1970s, and was not just a Superman villain. I didn't even know he was in the TV show. The comic industry itself credits Flash as having the 3rd most important, after Batman and Spider-Man. And it is not me saying Maxwell Lord is not a villain, it is the people who made the important decisions about him. The guy who made him a Wonder Woman villain said he would have never made him a villian if he knew it would turn out like this, and I quite literally talked to J.M. DeMatteis, one of his cocreators, about this, and he said that Maxwell Lord was never intended to be a villain, and isn't, in his eyes. I couldn't care less about this. It is not about how many enemies Flash has, it is about the quality, which is great. Boomerang has taken on more of an anti-hero role, Reverse-Flash is seen as one of the greatest arch enemies of all time, Heatwave had a really great reformation arc in the 70s, Captain Cold has an interesting moral code, etcetera. Flash's rogues gallery inspired half of the other ones, including Spider-Man's, and the creators of his rogues gallery has a prominent place in creating other ones, Batman included. Gardner Fox did a heck of a lot for the Batman mythos too. You did a quick search. I am quite literally dedicating my life to the industry, with becoming an archivist for that very reason. Also, Flash himself does not have a lot of vehicles, but his rogues do, and LEGO has started to make more buildings as of late. I agree that we need more characters in general though. I just was saying Flash is a prime example. Even though he has the 2nd most, he still only has like 4. I also mean no disrespect to you, I just get personally offended when someone discounts my boy Barry cause the show is complete trash. 

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Both Atomic Skulls debuted in Superman titles and is considered a Superman villain. He’s fought others including Firestorm, but that doesn’t change his primary adversary. The comics industry isn’t a monolith, and the general consensus is that Flash is 4th at best. In that Lego set Lord is a villain as he is based on the film character, who is a villain. He has a shady past, not all his fault, but retrospectively saying that he shouldn’t have been a villain doesn’t change that. Anyway, he killed Ted! It has a certain amount to do with the number of villains, otherwise you wouldn’t have listed one for the entirety of the X-Men and a whole heap for Flash. I’m not denying the range of character depth, nor whether their creation possibly inspired that of others. Gardner Fox did a heck of a lot, full stop. It’s not a contest of knowledge, and I can happily and openly say that in over thirty years of interest in the subject, I still have much to learn, mainly because I’m a fan of the more obscure corners of DC. To be honest I am struggling to find a Flash Rogue vehicle that could in any way be considered as iconic as the owner, or fit for a Lego set. The DC Super Hero line has been blessed with a bank, an energy plant, an alley, Arkham, various parts of Wayne Manor/Batcave, a very small bit of rooftop, a Lazarus Pit, Joker’s Fun House and a Fair Ground. Some of them struggle to constitute a building, and most of them fail to fulfil the basic premise of iconic location. We definitely merit more buildings. Unless I’m missing anyone there’s Cold, both Boomerangs, Grodd, Trickster II, and Reverse Flash/Zoom (it’s not clear which it definitely is). However, given the imbalance in the Trinity’s rogues, I feel that Flash has done well so far. Me, I’m character greedy and fickle with it. There’s a whole heap of untapped Western, War, and Sci-Fi characters that would translate well into minifigure form, not to mention the Ages and different Earths, and the range of builds to accompany them is really diverse. I’m slowly working on purist building them, but it’s a long haul job.

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I totally agree actually. Atomic Skull wasn't even my point, and I too love the obscure corners. My fav team actually is the JSA/All-Star Squadron. The Flash stuff was off topic entirely. That was just saying from the perspective of a comic historian, Flash is considered 3rd most iconic. The CBR list was subjective, and the Ranker list does not have a good balance of fans. I do agree that the more obscure corners need representation, but I was using Flash as an example of how everyone but Batman's earliest foes have been neglected. Even Bat-Fam has this problem. Like Cass Cain, Spoiler, Most of his B-List villains, Oracle, Red Robin, Batwing, etc. We need Jonah Hex though. Vigilante would be great, Stuff like Dial H, Challengers of the Unknown, a Strange Adventures line, Atom, Metal Men, Golden Agw Characters like Alan Scott, Wildcat, then like the Fourth World Stuff like the New Gods, the Forever People, and back to silver age with like Adam Strange, etc. (And the Max stuff wasn't my view, I was just mentioning the fun fact of J.M. telling me the other day about Max. That's not my hill to die on. 

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Now there I can agree. Trouble is I get carried away with who should be immortalised next. I love the notion of the All Star Squadron uniting teams like the JSA and the Seven Soldiers. Then there’s the deep cuts like the back ups in World’s Finest, with old Ghost Patrol stories, or the awkward Grim/Gay Ghost. I’m currently working on a Blackhawk Skyrocket, and mulling between a decent scale and a more Lego-based minifigure scale. It’s a toss up between looking right and overshadowing the Javelin. I’m more inclined to using the Joker Lowrider as a size reference. Haunted Tank, the Sky Rocket Racer, S.T.R.I.P.E. and Starro are in the pipeline. 

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Exactly. And Pat wouldn't even require more than a new torso. Also, what would they even have to print on S.T.R.I.P.E.? It would be easy enough. 

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A large 200-400 dollar Totans Tower with detailed floors and a modular closed build that can open up,  training room and several figures would be nice. A brick built Trigon set would be great too.

Figures I want:

Starfire - Big Poofy Hair mold 

Raven white suit

Raven regular suit -  using new hood piece,

Dr. Light (villain)

Beast Boy - using elves hairpiece spikey hair and in a lighter green skin tone, with his red and white suit

Wally West Rebirth

The Question

The Vixen

Animal Man

Steel

Mr. Terrific

Hawk & Dove

Fire 
Ice

Donna Troy

Cassandra Cain

Spoiler

Anarchy

Professor  Pyg

Victor Zazz

Star Sapphire

Fatality

Bleez

Atrocitus

Arkillo

Lyssa Drak

Kilowag

Blue Devil

Firestorm silver and dark red suit (leg printing)

Joker/Two-Face/Penguin Goons

Selena Kyle

Power Girl

Amanda Waller

WildCat

Jade

Kyle Rayner

Big Barda

Grandma Goodness

Terry McGuinness

Batman Beyond

Ink

Kalibak

Mantis

Mad Harriet

Lashina

comic parademons

Feel free to add on but these characters should come in sets not polybags and minifigure series. This theme could be so much more I want to go crazy over new lego sets not feel like i already own them :/

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On 12/8/2020 at 2:38 AM, Hythonia said:

Lashina and Mad Harriet but not Stompa? 

Well then let me add more to the list

Desaad

Stompa

Black Racer

Kid Devil

Miss Martian

Sportsmaster

Chesire

Lady Shiva

Vibe

Mas y Menos

Metal Men

Mammoth

Jinx

Gizmo

Mother Hive

Brother Blood

Ravager

Doctor Fate

Doctor Light (hero)

Icon

Rocket

Statick Shock

Batwing

Barbara Gordon

Copperhead

Count Vertigo

Starro

Livewire

Volcana

Hush

Black Mask

cheetah WITH LEG PRINTING. She’s one of those characters that needs leg printing arm printing back printing tail printing and maybe even dual molded legs

Sets:

Brick Built Trigon

Titans Tower

WatchTower

Hall of Doom

star lab

Lexcorp 

The Daily Planet

New Javelin (bigger? Different color?)

JokerLand (NOT  a jokerized wayne manor but his own actual theme park)

 

 

Edited by cosmic

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On 12/9/2020 at 12:22 AM, cosmic said:

JokerLand

We already got a couple JokerLand's but boy would I kill for a Hall of Doom set

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5 hours ago, PGBQW said:

We already got a couple JokerLand's but boy would I kill for a Hall of Doom set

Well ideally I want one that does it justice (no pun intended). As a D2C or UCS set (if those even go to superheroes) a proper jokerland with a large looming clown mouth entrance and some more detailed rides and a more modular build is what I mean. The 2012 funhouse was cute and the 2015 set fell short for me but i’d like a big detailed clown park.

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If a second DC minifigure series released, I’d hope they’d raise the figure count to at least 16. Licensed series should not receive small series. Here’s a rough draft of my anticipated releases 

1. Superman Red Son, printed 2 by 4 tile with the cover of the comic

2. Wonder Woman Challenge of the Gods 1987 costume (Series 10 Athena helmet/hairmold), spear, and shield

3. Batman Beyond with optional wing mold, new helmet mold. 

4. Firestorm Futures End Redesign. Blast pieces included

5. Harley Quinn  - Injustice costume with the new Pigtail piece from TLM2, and a new hyena mold, baseball bat

6.  Classic Starfire - new big poofy red hair mold, blast pieces in green

7. Ares - new helmet mold, shoulder armor, cape, and axe build

8. Bronze Tiger -  (tiger design unsure which exact universe its from) new tiger head mold, wolverine claws

9. Mr. Myzptlk - new hair mold similar to the grandpa and Crusty, side growing  grey hair on a bald cap with a hat on. Orange umbrella and the new hairy potter moveable short legs

10. Jade - white and green costume. Lantern ring and green blast pieces, Anna’s hair from Lego friends in a dark green

11. Alan Scott - classic , lantern ring and upper and lower cape pieces

12. The Question - no new pieces, hat, and gun accesories

13. Black Lightning - with Falcons hair piece, printed legs and small lightning pieces

14. Red Tornado - new tornado leg piece similar to the Sandman lower half piece used in Nexo Knights but depicting wind.

15. Wally West - Titans costume, new hair and goggles mould

16. Big Barda - new hair mold and sword piece. 
 

Used the first DC series as a template. Half new figures (9-16) half variants (1-8) plenty of accessories to justify the price point, 9 have new pieces, many figures here mirror ones released in the first batch.

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The builds themselves have always played second fiddle to the minifigs, so my wishlist is entirely based around the characters.  First and foremost, I want the Crime Syndicate.  This could make for an entire wave or one very expensive set.  When they released the Lego DC Villains game I thought it was actually going to happen.  Other notable characters that are absent include Atrocitous (Minifig rather than bigfig), Black Adam, Constantine, Swamp Thing, Etrigon, Doctor Fate, Vandal Savage, Nekron, Sportsmaster, Cyborg Superman, Larfleeze, Mongul, Metallo, Eclipso, Neron, and almost the entire cast of New Gods (so far we only have Darkseid, Mister Miracle, and a not so great Steppenwolf).  Besides specific characters, I would love to see minifigures of Manhunters, White Martians, and Lantern Core members. 

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My hopes for a DC Series 2 CMF (Some overlap with @cosmic):

1. Wally West Flash (Rebirth)

2. Batman Beyond (With extra head & hairpiece)

3. Troia

4. Kyle Rayner

5. Mera (Classic)

6. Captain Atom

7. Vixen

8. Black Bat

9. Heatwave

10. Ventriloquist w/Scarface

11. Circe

12. Larfleeze

13. The Question (Vic Sage)

14. Lilith Clay (Rebirth)

15. Metallo

16. Superman (New 52)

As far as new characters go, would love to see Superman and Flash get more rogues (Metallo, regular release Bizarro, Silver Banshee, Toyman, Livewire, Pied Piper, Top, Weather Wizard, etc.) as well as some more powerful league villains (like Black Adam, Vandal Savage, Doomsday) 

Future League recruits should be Captain Atom, Vixen, The Atom, Zatana, Black Lightning, and Booster Gold.

New Bat-Fam: Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, Bluebird, comics Alfred.

New Bat-Villains: Mad Hatter, Bigfig Clayface, Black Mask, Anarchy.

And Teen Titans: classic Kid Flash, Raven, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, Speedy.

Obscure wants include Ice & Fire, Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi), Orion and Mister Terrific.

 

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